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KilROCK	Posted - 2006.01.23 03:22:00 - [61] Originally by: Acwron Originally by: Gierling 10% ROF would be interesting, would help artillery and autos. But wouldnt retire the tempest I would approve. I think the max locked targets 3 is there on purpose. Yea, i noticed that. It does suck, but why bother having more than 3 thing locked when you can shred them to piece
Gierling	Posted - 2006.01.23 03:42:00 - [62] Honostly a lot here screams "Work in progress" to me. THis thread is useful though, it should remind CCP that "We are watching" and that we want interesting new ships that don't crowd out the old ones. (And making the Tempest and Domi actually able to take a place in the battle formation would be nice too). snip That's not very appropriate. - Teblin
KilROCK	Posted - 2006.01.23 04:15:00 - [63] To be honest, They should ask 'well' known pvper, using each race ships, and get some info from them regarding what would be best for the tier 3 bs, Bonus wise. Not questioning CCP devs ability to come up with ideas but yea.. maybe i am.
Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol	Posted - 2006.01.23 04:45:00 - [64] with those sig radii a Raven is gonna have a field day with those things hehe --------------------------------------------- <Make ECM Burst useful> ECM Burst Idea!
Shadowsword	Posted - 2006.01.23 08:12:00 - [65] Not really. With a sig radius already above 400 torps won't do more damage, and rage torps are still going to do 50% of their damage, max. It's gun users that will appreciate that kind of sig radius... According to those stats, I don't think any of them is significantly weaker thant the others, but their high mass and low speed worry me a little. They might be too slow and sluggish to be really usefulls in anything other that a fleet battle.
Gierling	Posted - 2006.01.23 08:26:00 - [66] The Gallente one actually has a very reasonable mass. And the sig thing is important, it balances out thier extra hitpoints and it makes them a targetpainting vigil away from being absolutely slapped by dreads. snip That's not very appropriate. - Teblin
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.01.23 08:29:00 - [67] With all these sp I have in missles now, I seriuosly how they dont put out a caldari rail boat bs. Missles 4tw
My grandfather	Posted - 2006.01.23 08:33:00 - [68] I'm a bit surprised about the 7-1 slot lay-out of the Tier 3 amarr. What can 1 launcher slot ever do except launch defenders? I love the tanking options though... 8 lowslots and armor to spare If I had to make a choice, I'd make the lay-out 8-1, for more options. But then again, if I had the choice, It'd be a waaaaay-overpowered missile-spamming ubertanker
Waut	Posted - 2006.01.23 08:48:00 - [69] Originally by: B'laze plz plz plz make the tier3 caldari BS look like a finished scorp I was thinking the same way. A scorp with 2 wings so it gets somewhat symmetric. It'll look badass Plan for galaxy domination: Step 1. Steal lots of underpants Step 2. ... Step 3. Get declared as Eve Emperor
Vina	Posted - 2006.01.23 09:06:00 - [70] Originally by: booh Edited by: booh on 22/01/2006 11:40:31 Edited by: booh on 22/01/2006 11:38:06 taken from TQ db tier 3 BS Caldari: 8/7/5 7 Turret 4 Launcher 19000 grid, 750 cpu 6800 shield hp 5000 cap hp 100k target range, 50m3 drone Minmatar: 8/6/6 8 Turret 3 Launcher 19750 grid, 650 cpu 6400 shield hp 6000 armor hp 4800 cap hp 82500 target range, 80m3 drone Amarr: 8/4/8 7 Turret 1 Launcher 21250 grid, 550 cpu 6800 armor hp 5500 cap hp 87500 target range, 75m3 drone Gallente: 8/5/7 8 turret 1 launcher 20750 grid, 600 cpu 6400 armor hp 5250 cap hp 92500 target range, 200m3 drone ------------------- tier 2 BC Caldari: 8/6/4 7 launcher 3 turret 800 grid, 525 cpu 3125 shield hp 2250 cap hp 25 m3 drone Minmatar: 8/4/6 7 turret 3 launcher 1300 grid, 400 cpu 2813 shield hp 2500 armor hp 2250 cap hp 30m3 drone Amarr: 8/3/7 8 turret 1500 grid, 350 cpu 3125 armor hp 2500 cap hp 50m3 drone Gallente: 8/5/5 6 turret 1 launcher 1100 grid, 400 cpu 2813 armor hp 2250 cap hp 250m3 drone --------------- no bonuses and still needs balancing imo, but there are some interesting things... like 7 launcher BC for caldari, 250m3 gallente BC, 8 turret amarr BC... 8 turret minnie BS!, caldari turret BS... BS BPO price should be 1.5b, and production cost like 110m, maybe 120m... Real good job copying and pasting my post on the atuk forum,****et ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
Jurushy	Posted - 2006.01.23 09:23:00 - [71] nice and in my opinion i like the new min tier 3 BS it follow the way of DAMAGE (read storyline) lets give my one sugestion Tier 2 BS in turrets (caldary get 7 turrets whit tier 3) amarr apoc has 8 thorn 7 turrests so i cant really get the point wyh the other race have mor guns on the ships this misslead the storyline so in my opinion the minmatar republic do something and create the new real gunship and the older ships get other uses
Mogubu	Posted - 2006.01.23 10:03:00 - [72] Rails on the caldari thingy would just be sad, nothing else. But if it is to be, can there PLZ!!! be a missile AF to play with? I may look Gallente, but I can use missiles, and not much else. Raven is fun and all, but alternatives would be a good thing...
Crellion	Posted - 2006.01.23 10:21:00 - [73] Originally by: Mogubu Rails on the caldari thingy would just be sad, nothing else. But if it is to be, can there PLZ!!! be a missile AF to play with? I may look Gallente, but I can use missiles, and not much else. Raven is fun and all, but alternatives would be a good thing... Generally speaking I wouldnt reply this, I d just put it down to ignorance. However I saw many posts like this here and there. Some of them even by people I know are accomplished Caldari pilots like Hippoking. So lets clarify this: Callente fight with blasters and drones Caldari fight with rails and missles This simple proposition is backed by every single ship in those 2 races or close (referring to ship bonuses e.t.c.) The top tier in every category almost is a rail boat. Merlin > kestrel, Moa > Caracal, Harpy > Hawk, Desy has rails, Ferox has rail bonuses etc etc etc. That chain was broken only when it came to BSs. We had Scorpion for BB and Raven for Caracal but ... where was the Moa??????? This is what we hope will be fixed with tier 3 BS and its long overdue. Now it may be that some Caldari pilots decided to go for misles only (since they are quicker to train for -MUCH QUICKER-) and now they hte the idea of the rail BS. Boo to you If you are Gallente and you only train drones you cant use the best ships of the race (or some of them). Same for Caldari who only train missles. Harpy is probably the best AF in the game, I guess therefore you at least trained small rails... well catch up :) This is a long coming reward for the Caldari pilots who trained L rails (even if they had to use them on Megathrons so far) and the rest of you just make sure you catch uup quick pls. This will possibly be one of the best BSs in the game -of all races- so pls take advantage of this instead of nagging. Thank You
Mogubu	Posted - 2006.01.23 10:41:00 - [74] Originally by: Crellion Generally speaking I wouldnt reply this, I d just put it down to ignorance. However I saw many posts like this here and there. Some of them even by people I know are accomplished Caldari pilots like Hippoking. So lets clarify this: Callente fight with blasters and drones Caldari fight with rails and missles ... Thank You That is a fact. Doesnt change the fact that I think it's sad if it ends up being a railboat, since missiles are just, well, cooler. And again, a missile AF really is not too much to ask now, is it? Just change some slots on the hawk.
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2006.01.23 10:43:00 - [75] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Maybe the Raven should get boosted to be the teir 3 Caldari BS, and the rail one made the T2? It really wouldn't make any sense for the best BS for a missile race to be a rail platform. That is unlikely to happen, as the increase in mineral costs would be be exploitable. Anyway, the tier 3 Caldari cruiser is a rail platform. Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori
Crellion	Posted - 2006.01.23 10:45:00 - [76] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Ithildin Also, regarding the top-tier comment on Caldari, consider the Moa and Merlin. What about them? A kestrel with skills is going to put a major hurting on a Merlin, and a Caracal can setup to keep range on a moa if need be, or, when assault become heavy launchers, try to get under the moa's Rails and open up with lots of hurting with heavy rockets. Moa and Caracal have more of a Gap, but it's really a close call between merlin and kestrel. This and the post you made two posts above this one show that you are mixed up / dont understand the ships. Check agai tiers and bonuses for both Gallente and Valdari carefully. After 30 mins in the items database it should be obvious for you.
Trelennen	Posted - 2006.01.23 12:31:00 - [77] Originally by: Ithildin Originally by: GlimmerMan That 7 better become an 8 before they go live with that ship otehrwise that is a seriously gimped ship compared to the rest. It's basically the same for the Gallente tier 2 BC. Getting it's turrets reduced is a step up as the next tier suggests? (And for the love of the light! Neither Gallente nor Amarr like inferior missiles on their ships! Stop building them with missiles! THAT is the first thing I am removing from my ships with Tech 3) With those stats, the Gallente Tier 2 BC would prolly be insane, with the ability to fit a nifty passive shield tank, and lots of drones (look at the 250m¦ drone bay), while not loosing one slot like the other drone boats. And with such a bay, it'd be likely it'd get drone bonus. Tier 2 doesn't mean everything better than tier 1 ya know? Originally by: Noriath I think tier 3 battleships will be a bit weird. For example there is always talk about how Caldari needs a railgun ship, Gallente needs a damper platform and so on - but why would those kinds of ships be the best those races have to offer at tier 3? Well, Merlin is the top caldari frigate, with kestrel in the same "tier" but slightly behind, griffin beeing lower tier. Moa is the tier 3 cruiser, caracal tier 2, with blackbird being tier 1. Transpose that at BS levels and you have scorpion as Tier 1, Raven as tier 2, and sniper railboat as tier 3. As for a 10% rof on minnie which would help both artys and ACs, well... AC would have a hard time, chewing threw ammo like never, and using a good bunch of cap with such a bonus... Basicaly, Tempest is a big rupture, meant for long range (although it can't really fit that well on long range setup). The tier 3 minmatar BS would really be good as a big stabber, fast AC boat, more with damage bonus than rof bonus, and good speed. ===== !!! Fix SB - Love for AFs - Fix drones AI !!!
Roke E'raith	Posted - 2006.01.23 14:08:00 - [78] Edited by: Roke E''raith on 23/01/2006 14:12:35 Originally by: Urza Rast I know this is still a work in progress but please whoever keeps taking the nerf bat and beating the hell out of the Amarr. Just put the nerf bat down and back away slowly. Hehe, I totally agree. Originally by: Gierling <snip> Amarr Tier 3: 5% Armour resists 10% Energy use Why its balanced: NEither tank nor gank, it can do both well. Well, I agree on the armor resist part, but isn't time for the Amarr to actually get extra damage? 5% Armour resists 10% Damage bonus on large energy turrets Originally by: tenp1 If you compare the current BS to the cruisers you get Armageddon = Omen Apocalypse = Maller <snip> So that leaves For amarr either high armour remote cap transferer like an augoror, or an EW drone ship like the Arbitrator. An arb like ship would be my choice, though it may be a bit too similar to the Dominix. <snip> I also saw this connection, and I agree that an Arbritrator ship would be interesting. I fail to see how an Augoror type of battleship would work, really. /Roke
Sean Drake	Posted - 2006.01.23 14:26:00 - [79] Can one of the caldari ships plz have a dmg bonus non of this optimal range crap
Nafri	Posted - 2006.01.23 14:37:00 - [80] with only -10% ROF the new matari battleship will struggle to find a place in fleets, it is only like a tempest with 33% more alphastrike, but well 6 midslots, more ECM
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.01.23 16:46:00 - [81] Edited by: Sarmaul on 23/01/2006 16:46:17 Originally by: Nafri with only -10% ROF the new matari battleship will struggle to find a place in fleets, it is only like a tempest with 33% more alphastrike, but well 6 midslots, more ECM erm what? it does more dps, more alpha strike and has more ecm capabilities and you think it's going to struggle to find a place in fleet combat?
Nafri	Posted - 2006.01.23 17:02:00 - [82] Originally by: Sarmaul Edited by: Sarmaul on 23/01/2006 16:46:17 Originally by: Nafri with only -10% ROF the new matari battleship will struggle to find a place in fleets, it is only like a tempest with 33% more alphastrike, but well 6 midslots, more ECM erm what? it does more dps, more alpha strike and has more ecm capabilities and you think it's going to struggle to find a place in fleet combat? jo, 3 targets means less ECM, and it makes fighting increadible hard. Try to unlock something in lag-online aka fleetbattle is hard but anyway, Im a pro at minnie whinage
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.01.23 17:12:00 - [83] Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Sarmaul Edited by: Sarmaul on 23/01/2006 16:46:17 Originally by: Nafri with only -10% ROF the new matari battleship will struggle to find a place in fleets, it is only like a tempest with 33% more alphastrike, but well 6 midslots, more ECM erm what? it does more dps, more alpha strike and has more ecm capabilities and you think it's going to struggle to find a place in fleet combat? jo, 3 targets means less ECM, and it makes fighting increadible hard. Try to unlock something in lag-online aka fleetbattle is hard but anyway, Im a pro at minnie whinage gah only 3 locked targets?!! Ah well, you could always drop a turret and fit an auto targeter (+2 targets) - it still still outdamage the pest :)
Daxes	Posted - 2006.01.23 17:14:00 - [84] Another possiblity for the Amarr BS boni would be 5% to Large Energy Weapon RoF and 5% to Large Energy Weapon Capacitor or 5% to tracking speed. This would mean it has a lower Alphastrike than an Apoc but could be a better Armageddon (the current pic in the DB would fit to that).
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2006.01.23 17:24:00 - [85] Whatever they do, im just praying they dont do the standard split HP and split slots that they usually lumber Matari ships with and then give it a few more m/s. I mean, they've done that throughout the Capital ship design process and it just strikes me as reading from the book of minmatar design rather than an original design. I'd like a Minmatar ship that is completely devoted to one task. That would be a difference for us. Hell, even one that has a dedicated tanking layout would be nice. Something original would be lovely. - - The fire burns..
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.01.23 17:26:00 - [86] Originally by: Khaldorn Murino Whatever they do, im just praying they dont do the standard split HP and split slots that they usually lumber Matari ships with and then give it a few more m/s. I mean, they've done that throughout the Capital ship design process and it just strikes me as reading from the book of minmatar design rather than an original design. I'd like a Minmatar ship that is completely devoted to one task. That would be a difference for us. Hell, even one that has a dedicated tanking layout would be nice. Something original would be lovely. 8/6/6 by the looks of it I would still kill for a 8/7/5 on a minny ship but it looks like the caldari railboat is getting that instead.
Khaldorn Murino	Posted - 2006.01.23 17:37:00 - [87] Why did I see that coming... Cmon guys, show me some love. How about a Minmatar ship that armour tanks like a b!tch. Or a Minmatar ship that cant tank for turd (well.. not counting the existing ones) but is bloody fast (a real bloody fast) and bloody hard hitting (tracking bonus etc etc). - - The fire burns..

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