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Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:01:00 - [1] I feel morally obligated to share this, on account that it is absolutely attrocious behavior from one of the supposedly reputable business corporations of this game. I came to M.Corp on the basis of their reputation, to find an all encompassing BPC package that would provide me the ability to build as much large ammunition, equipment and as a bonus Battleships if possible. IT seemed evident from the forums that they were the people to talk to. Two days ago in the morning I found the chat on their website was wrong, but discovered the proper in game chat via the WTS forum after digging around. Even informed them that the advertised chat was wrong to help them out. Present my situation to Kert___ (don't know full name off top of my head) that I need all Large and medium ammo and guns excluding missiles, cruisers and battleships also as a bonus. After waiting 30 minutes for a reply I wasn't able to get a decent answer, so I asked for an evemail offer of anything that M.Corp could do, to help me out. I was told I would get that. That evening no evemail arrived. No one was available in their chat. So the next morning I spoke to Kert___ again. I was told packages were the best thing for me. And looking on their bio I saw: Minmatar Freedom Package - 12 Million isk 2x TEMPEST BPC 1x TYPHOON BPC ALL MINMATAR CRUISER BPC's ALL LARGE PROJECTILE TURRET BPC's LARGE AMMO BPC's THRASHER BPC MAMMOTH BPC So I asked for 4 racial packages to be escrowed to Roue an alt of mine who was in empire. I asked for a deal, was offered 4 for price of 3. Seemed it would do decently what I wanted so I accepted the deal, asking it be done ASAP. I was told it would take 4 hours. That evening I fly 30 jumps to location, find no escrow. So I try and contact Velios in channel, he doesn't respond and after 30 minutes of convo and chat in their sales channel I leave it for the next morning again. Now Velios next morning tells me not sure why but will come help make packages before work. I stay 5 minutes later then I should, and am late for work to get the trade done. I notice however that there are only 2 PRojectile BPC and 3 Hybrid. Velios says there is trade lag, so I assumed, honorable corporation wouldn't cheat me. They just aren't showing up, the rest of the ammo. And after all this work it seems he is who I should have talked to. So I trade in good faith. Only 5 bpc's is what I was given. Why? Because that post ambigiously doesn't say ALL large AMMO. They give what is in stock, though I had originally asked for soemthing that would cover this. Frustrated, angry and feeling like I wasted 72 hours I have to leave abruptly for work. This evening I convo Velios and the following insues. You judge for yourself. But personally I don't think any one in a business setting should ever tell someone shut up. IF you think I'm wrong.. Great. If you think I'm right, great also. I just don't like being told my business is inconsequential. After this log I was ejected from their sales corporation channel without comment. Freedom of speech, this is what was said. I hope Velios decides to learn a little about salesmanship and makes an appology. Log to follow Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
Aiya Adoria	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:02:00 - [2] Velios > hello Mercade > Do you have a minute to talk? Velios > yeah Velios > whats up? Mercade > I want to know if I can return these bpc's for a refund Velios > why??? Velios > they took over half an hout to prepare? Velios > you are the guy that picked them up as well arent you Velios > whats wrong with the bpc's? Velios > no on ein over 2 years has EVER retuened them, Mercade > I waited 3 days for service that wasn't rendered. I was patient and trusted in M.Corp's reputation. I haven't gotten what I ask the K person for or what you offered. Velios > you ordered package deals, racial Velios > and thats what you got Mercade > When I came to Mcorp sales channel I explained my situation. I needed large turrets and ammo of all types. The BS were not necessary. Velios > + more Mercade > I was told that the racial would give me that.. ti didn't Mercade > I received less then 1/3 of all large ammo Mercade > that is the WHOLE purpose I did business with you, for a package. a COMPLETE package Velios > so you are just unhappy that you didnt get some ammo? Velios > these take what... an hour to make Mercade > I want what I asked for. Velios > and you are returning 100+ bpc's because of that? Mercade > I'm returning 100+ BPC's because I was ignored, and not served for 3 days only to have what I wanted not given after it was an agreement. Mercade > Now... if you have the other ammo in large run BPC's and wish to give them, and finish out the packages fine. Mercade > I want a business deal with you. I think your corp has worked hard to make a good reputation at what it does. But I also paid 36mil for what? several BS bpc's and a little equipment and 5 ammo bpc's? Mercade > Maybe I'm wrong. But I asked for help, I explained what I needed, and I was lead to believe I would recieve that. No where does it say "ammo subject to availability". I even was fine with no DOminix BPC's when that is the KEY ship I needed Mercade > which is why I think it's easier just to return them all and I'll go back to trying to find what I need. Velios > i had to relog Velios > so... Mercade > NP. Velios > i am stunned frankly Velios > you order 4 racial packs, get ONE free! Velios > and still arent happy Mercade > HOnestly, look at it from my position, the customer's position. Velios > i am Velios > and the guy onyx got exactly the same and is very happy Mercade > I came to M.Corp with a mission. to get all ammo, turrets, cruisers, battleships if possible but optional. I said I had all missiles, and frigates and small ammo. K said well we only do packages. Mercade > I said I don't need battleships but I'll take them IF IT GETS ME ALL THE AMMO and turrets anmd cruisers etc. I need to build a full market cover, not battleships. Velios > so what are you missing that you didnt get Mercade > I was told that the racial packages would do that. Velios > so just a few ammo bpc's Mercade > Between large projectile and large hybrid I have 5bpc's Mercade > between them Velios > so just ammo Velios > and you want to return the lot Mercade > Yes.. and you know it might just be ammo. But again look at it from my position Velios > how about asking me if i can do the rest? Mercade > K didn't send me the evemail promised... didn't put up the escrow promised. 2 days of no progress for no apparent reason. Mercade > scroll up Velios > if you looked at my bio (and kerts) it says racial packs give ammo bpc's not all of them Mercade > Mercade > Now... if you have the other ammo in large run BPC's and wish to give them, and finish out the packages fine. Velios > she couldnt put so many items on escrow Mercade > then why didn't kert tell me that WHEN I said that's what I want Mercade > I work in sales.. I run a small business.. If someone comes in and tells me what they want, and I just point at a no clearly posted sign instead of helping them out, then I am wrong..
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:03:00 - [3] alt mistake, we all make them. cont. Velios > i am annoyed at your attitude over a few incidental bpc's when you walked away with the deal of the century this morning Velios > trade it back to kert now Mercade > This is not something I expect... which is why I accepted the trade of 36million even though I didn't see all the BPC's Mercade > I trusted MCorp that they weren't showing Velios > trust? Velios > i didnt cheat you Mercade > I know.. which is what I just said. Velios > i worked damn hard today getting that ready Velios > ok enough talk Velios > get ready to trade all bpc back Velios > you wont find anything like what i sold you anywhere in eve Mercade > How is that the deal of the centry Mercade > i didn't get what I asked MCORP to help me get Velios > the 36m isk is inconsiquential to us, i would rather sell to someone else Mercade > THat's like saying someone who gets a ferrari cheap got the best when they wanted a pickup truck Velios > shut up Mercade > Fine.. if my business means that little to you.. I wnat my money back. Velios > your business is fine, your attitude is ridiculous Velios > give them back Mercade > You have 1 last chance to not talk to me that way Velios > give them back Mercade > put the money in the trade Velios > i dont play this game to deal with people like you Velios > in 2 years i have never met anyone like you Mercade > they are all in the trade, put the money in the trade. Velios > thanks for your time Velios > thansk for wasting mine I was then kicked. take it for what it's worth. But I don't like being kicked to the curb. Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:09:00 - [4] i know a tear had reached my eye by the second paragraph.. so cruel.. so heartless.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:10:00 - [5] Edited by: Mercade on 22/01/2006 04:10:40 In business all you have is your word and how you treat your customers. I could careless what anyone thinks, but I think that issue should be shared. EDIT: Hence the creation of the better business Bureau. Some people like to know what they are dealing with. Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
autoexec	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:11:00 - [6] Originally by: Mercade Velios > thanks for your time Velios > thansk for wasting mine Quoted for truth! You got issues Mercade. They can't be fixed in-game. -- autoexec.eve "If your enemy defeats you by deceiving you, you were conquered by your own ignorance"
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:12:00 - [7] Originally by: autoexec Originally by: Mercade Velios > thanks for your time Velios > thansk for wasting mine Quoted for truth! You got issues Mercade. They can't be fixed in-game. How? By expecting a fair and upfront business discussion from one of the most respected business corporations in the game? I think Velios should go take lessons from the guys at NAGA. THEY KNOW what it means to deal with your customers. Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
MrSpock	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:20:00 - [8] Thank God for a free market, in addition to the joy I attain from laughing at people like you. The one and only Operation Infinite Justice
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:25:00 - [9] Originally by: MrSpock Thank God for a free market, in addition to the joy I attain from laughing at people like you. Freemarket exactly. Which is why I asked for my money back. Lot of sister corp support here. Can't you just admit it was bad business. No response. evemails offered never sent Escrows promised never made Questions asked not truthfully answered (Evasively worded) and then when I ask simply to just for a refun. Customer insulted and my business is told to be insubstantial. Let every other corp out there who wants to buy 4 racial packages know that they aren't worth it to M.Corp. Velios said it right there. 36mil isn't worth his time, you aren't worth his time. That is bad business. The forum image I was presented did not match what I received, so I'm offering my point, I'm even including the storry and log for you to make your own conclusions. What more could you want as prospective M.Corp customer who might be concerned about their reputation? Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
Alu'rise	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:28:00 - [10] I don't see why you are all being so hard on Mercade. If I was treated the same way he was, I would be here venting too. Rude customer service is rude customer service. M.Corp doesn't appear to care about customers. I mean... "shut up"?? If a salesperson ever said that to me no matter how I was acting I would have them fired. And you know what? They would be. You just don't treat people like that. Mercade was obviously agitated and and good salesperson would try to solve the problem instead of belittling it. I agree, Mercade. Bad business.
k starwind	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:32:00 - [11] Originally by: Mercade Minmatar Freedom Package - 12 Million isk 2x TEMPEST BPC 1x TYPHOON BPC ALL MINMATAR CRUISER BPC's ALL LARGE PROJECTILE TURRET BPC's LARGE AMMO BPC's THRASHER BPC MAMMOTH BPC No where in there does it say all large ammo BPC it just says you will gett some of the ammo bpc. you turned down a good deal Signature removed - File size too large.Laurelin
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:35:00 - [12] Whiney customers just arent worth the hassle.. Give them and good deal and they whine they still want more.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:35:00 - [13] Originally by: k starwind Originally by: Mercade Minmatar Freedom Package - 12 Million isk 2x TEMPEST BPC 1x TYPHOON BPC ALL MINMATAR CRUISER BPC's ALL LARGE PROJECTILE TURRET BPC's LARGE AMMO BPC's THRASHER BPC MAMMOTH BPC No where in there does it say all large ammo BPC it just says you will gett some of the ammo bpc. you turned down a good deal You're right it doesn't. SO why wasn't I told that when that's what I asked for? If you sell icecream and someone comes in saying they want sugar cones with lil sprinkles in the sugar cone oh and vanilla. And you give them vanilla icecream in a paper cup for a cone and point to a sign that says but it says vanilla in a cone. Are you right? No. They told you what they wanted, and you should have let them know. I would have just said thank you very much and left. Not spent 3 days and all my and their time on this. And then when the person comes back and says but this isn't a sugar cone this is paper. You say I'm sorry can I give you a sugar cone. and if they say I want my money back, then you either say no refunds, or here's your money back. Not, shut up. Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:39:00 - [14] Originally by: thoth foc Whiney customers just arent worth the hassle.. Give them and good deal and they whine they still want more.. It's up to the customer to decide if the deal is worth it. I would have said no if straight up I read "Ammo subject to availability" I was told that they were out of dominix BPC's and got to chose a replacement. That degree of "conscious" knowledge of lacking product could go 5mm further and say. Hey I realise you ASKED FOR ALL THE AMMO, like it's important to you. We only have these 5 BPC's of the 15 that you want, is that ok? Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
k starwind	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:42:00 - [15] why dont you go out and buy all the large ammo BPO. they are not that expensive, then you can make your own BPC packages and sell them. Signature removed - File size too large.Laurelin <- now i cant find my sig to make it smaller grrrr
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:44:00 - [16] Originally by: k starwind why dont you go out and buy all the large ammo BPO. they are not that expensive, then you can make your own BPC packages and sell them. I need to produce all the items within 30 days. The time to research for all hybrid large ammo, guns, projectile ammo, guns plus the cruisers and BS I was optionally considering doing also, is huge. And not that much to you. But I am not rich. This was potentially based on what they advertised the best solution IF I could get all the ammo/Guns so I didn't have to hunt them all down, or buy the BPO and research them. Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
The Clash	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:45:00 - [17] You ever considerd they might have been busy fighting or RL etc , i used their deals a few times on an alt and i was pretty much amazed at how i got served altho they didnt know me at all . No bs around just what they offerd and when around i got it asap . Even deliverd . Ofc due reasons unknown they might have a problem to do it ASAP but hey M Corp ha a very good rep , not just here but also 99% of the guys i know using them or who i recomend them . _________________ You can suck my battleship.
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:46:00 - [18] Originally by: Mercade It's up to the customer to decide if the deal is worth it. a sales man who doesnt know the value of his product is a fool.. tbh u got more than what u paid for.. and still cried.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:48:00 - [19] Originally by: The Clash You ever considerd they might have been busy fighting or RL etc , i used their deals a few times on an alt and i was pretty much amazed at how i got served altho they didnt know me at all . No bs around just what they offerd and when around i got it asap . Even deliverd . Ofc due reasons unknown they might have a problem to do it ASAP but hey M Corp ha a very good rep , not just here but also 99% of the guys i know using them or who i recomend them . Exactly why I went straight to them for the rep I heard and had seen. So why wasn't I just told, you want AMMO BPC's we don't do that, we do BS? Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
The Clash	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:51:00 - [20] Originally by: Mercade Originally by: The Clash You ever considerd they might have been busy fighting or RL etc , i used their deals a few times on an alt and i was pretty much amazed at how i got served altho they didnt know me at all . No bs around just what they offerd and when around i got it asap . Even deliverd . Ofc due reasons unknown they might have a problem to do it ASAP but hey M Corp ha a very good rep , not just here but also 99% of the guys i know using them or who i recomend them . Exactly why I went straight to them for the rep I heard and had seen. So why wasn't I just told, you want AMMO BPC's we don't do that, we do BS? They also do ammo im sure , thenagainits been long ago for me as im inactive . But still i have problems to believe M Corp would mess up , ofc it always can happen a problem occurs why not live with that ? Posting a complaint on here usually makes it worse tbh , take it up with M Corp rep's , im sure they will serve you _________________ You can suck my battleship.
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:53:00 - [21] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Mercade It's up to the customer to decide if the deal is worth it. a sales man who doesnt know the value of his product is a fool.. tbh u got more than what u paid for.. and still cried.. A good sales person knows the value of their product. A good sales person knows the value of a customer IN THEIR STORE. You don't throw away customers, and you don't treat them bad. I should have been worth an honest answer. I should not have been told I wasn't worth his time. That alone you don't do. If someone walks in my store and wants to return something that cost 5 dollars and they are a hassle, I don't kick them out and tell them they aren't worth my time, shut up I'm banning you from the store. Let me ask you all one question. Why shouldn't I share this and let people read it? We pride ourselves in the world we create, the politics and the economy. It's up to us to decide what kind of military is fair and what kind of business is right. CCP won't police it for us. All I want is an appology. I want Velios to say I am sorry for telling you to shut up. Kert didn't fit what you wanted with what we had and that's their or my responsibility and I hope you find whatever you're looking for elsewhere. I want to see this reputation I was told I should expect. Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
Stratosfear	Posted - 2006.01.22 04:53:00 - [22] You found your way to the forums, typed up several paragraphs and posted a chatlog over some low value BPCs in a computer game. You sir need a life, and nobody wants a custemer like that, keep your isk. Velios more than gave you his fair share of attention and this in no way reflects badly on M.Corp. Besides, posting convos is not permitted in forums. Go whine in your corp channel.
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.22 05:00:00 - [23] Originally by: Mercade A good sales person knows the value of a customer IN THEIR STORE. yip.. and whiney customers are never worth whatever they are paying.. being realistic and evaluating a customer is a very important role of a saleman.. u seemed to be evaluted very well.. tbh --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 05:00:00 - [24] Originally by: The Clash Originally by: Mercade Originally by: The Clash You ever considerd they might have been busy fighting or RL etc , i used their deals a few times on an alt and i was pretty much amazed at how i got served altho they didnt know me at all . No bs around just what they offerd and when around i got it asap . Even deliverd . Ofc due reasons unknown they might have a problem to do it ASAP but hey M Corp ha a very good rep , not just here but also 99% of the guys i know using them or who i recomend them . Exactly why I went straight to them for the rep I heard and had seen. So why wasn't I just told, you want AMMO BPC's we don't do that, we do BS? They also do ammo im sure , thenagainits been long ago for me as im inactive . But still i have problems to believe M Corp would mess up , ofc it always can happen a problem occurs why not live with that ? Posting a complaint on here usually makes it worse tbh , take it up with M Corp rep's , im sure they will serve you I was banned from the channel before I even said anything in their "public channel" which I wasn't going to. Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 05:02:00 - [25] Originally by: Stratosfear You found your way to the forums, typed up several paragraphs and posted a chatlog over some low value BPCs in a computer game. You sir need a life, and nobody wants a custemer like that, keep your isk. Velios more than gave you his fair share of attention and this in no way reflects badly on M.Corp. Besides, posting convos is not permitted in forums. Go whine in your corp channel. I have a life. Good friends. Several hobbies and a stable job as well as a small business on the side. I also have my word. You are entitled your opinion. I'm entitled to not accept "shut up" as a reply in a business conversation. I'm also entitled an expression of it. The choice was either biasly state my opinion, or offer the convo and let others decide. I even prefaced the post. It's up to you. Just offering the info. Just like on ebay someone with 400 positive comments isn't impervious to one person feeling wronged being able to say they felt they were and how. Do you disagree ? Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 05:04:00 - [26] Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Mercade A good sales person knows the value of a customer IN THEIR STORE. yip.. and whiney customers are never worth whatever they are paying.. being realistic and evaluating a customer is a very important role of a saleman.. u seemed to be evaluted very well.. tbh He took my money. So that would mean he evaluated me as a worthwhile customer. I personally take pride in knowing my customers are both sold and happy. Customer content is a big part of repeat business and free advertisement. Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
shadyfox99	Posted - 2006.01.22 05:05:00 - [27] Thoth, why do you post on the forums? You post nothing constructive and only flame or bash other people. Please stop it. On topic: it seems to me that it was a miscommunication, at a few points in the chat log i saw where both parties tried to mend the situation, but they just never came together on it. Originally by: HostageTaker Use your brain and use your main! OMFG I just rhymed!
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 05:11:00 - [28] Originally by: shadyfox99 Thoth, why do you post on the forums? You post nothing constructive and only flame or bash other people. Please stop it. On topic: it seems to me that it was a miscommunication, at a few points in the chat log i saw where both parties tried to mend the situation, but they just never came together on it. I noticed that. I even qouted myself when he pointed out all I wanted for resolution was what I had originally came for and had been lead to believe I would receive. I have no idea why people can't just say. I have good history with M.Corp, this suprises me. I'm sure it was a misunderstanding and they will appologize for kicking you to the curb and telling you to shut up. Instead I get people who try to undermine the value of my statement by attacking my person. Guess what that doesn't work. Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.22 05:13:00 - [29] Originally by: shadyfox99 Thoth, why do you post on the forums? You post nothing constructive and only flame or bash other people. Please stop it. umm yes sir... Originally by: Mercade He took my money. So that would mean he evaluated me as a worthwhile customer. and u got the deal u paid for.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.22 05:20:00 - [30] Edited by: thoth foc on 22/01/2006 05:19:45 Originally by: Mercade Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: Mercade He took my money. So that would mean he evaluated me as a worthwhile customer. and u got the deal u paid for.. How? I went to them and asked how I could get all the turrets and large ammo in the game. I fail to see where what you think is a good deal, and what I asked for have any relevance with my business. u bought racial packs x, y and z.. and u got them.. as specified.. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
Shittake	Posted - 2006.01.22 05:43:00 - [31] Mercade, instead of complaining about little things like ammo BP copies, why don't you just take a crowbar to your wallet to open it and fork out the small ammount of ISK needed to get all of the ammo BPOs yourself and never need to deal with this crap ever again? I mean come on, you worked yourself up into a lather about customer service from an in-game corp? You got mad and spent all this time constructing your post? Oh, and if you were the guy in Sears return line the other day attempting to get a refund on the suit you wore one time to a party, telling the salesgirl the stain was there when you bought it, I was gonna kick you in the ass. Let it go man, move on. Take your meds
Cloned Mark	Posted - 2006.01.22 05:44:00 - [32] Its unfortunate that some confusion over a few ammo BPCs deserves a thread on the Eve Online forums castigating M. Corps very well run BPC business (you can find many pages of positive feedback about M. Corps service here). Personally, I would be annoyed if a customer convo'ed me asking for a refund having spent time copying and sorting all the BPCs (even throwing in a package for free).
Ituralde	Posted - 2006.01.22 05:48:00 - [33] WOW! WHAT A TOTAL SCAM!!!!111elevenone THEY DIDN'T GIVE YOU AMMO BPCS!!!! YAAR AMMO IS SO EXPENSIVE!!!! Clearly you are without hope if you missed a little bit of ammo! OH MY GOD! NO! HOWEVER WILL YOU SURVIVE!!! OMG M corp this is a TOTAL INJUSTICE!!!!! YOU STARVED A POOR CUSTOMER OF SOME AMMO!!! HIS LIVE IS OVER!!!!111eleven cough Look, ladies and gentlemen this is what we call Greed. Pure and simple. SO stingy that he flips out over some Ammo. In the time you took to whine in this bloody post you could bought the ammo you needed and been back on the far side of space shooting stuff. But no. Calling out a corp for scamming you is one thing. Getting not-so-scammed over some <AMMO> is just gross and not worth your or anyone's time. Congrats, not only are you greedy but you just made a point of telling that to everyone in eve.
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.22 06:42:00 - [34] im siding with m.corp on this one ;p i like velios and hes a great guy, and your the one with the probs ;p ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
munchy	Posted - 2006.01.22 07:07:00 - [35] tbh this looks like a miscommunication to me, but velios could have been a hell of alot more polite ---
dantes inferno	Posted - 2006.01.22 07:54:00 - [36] not only did you waste your time, M corps time..but you also wasted my time with this drivel and i deman due compenstation. in the time it took you to prepare and post this you could of earned the isk to buy each of the ammo BPO's and trained up the me and pe in about a week. _____ "When mothers warned their children that the monster would get them, that monster was me. I was the nightmare that kept
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 08:03:00 - [37] Why is it about the money to all of you. If I buy a cheese burger at mcdonalds and the person tells me to shut up. I am sorry but I will have make sure it's known. I don't care if she's mother Theresa or employee of the month. No one is exempt from the rules of being civil. You're right I could have just bought the BPO's. In all honesty I chose to do business to the degree I did based on their reputation. But what I asked for, the customer request I had made, was not satisfied and it was his choice how to handle it. This could be an ebay auction and the person could have 500 positive feedbacks. It does not mean that person can not, or has not done something to desrve me posting negative feedback and that's what I feel. Being told my business isn't worth it over a few ammo bpc's or to shut up because he doesn't have the patience to read a conversation closely enough to see all I asked for was the ammo bpc's I was lead to believe I would get, is not deserving of good feedback. If you disagree, fine. But you are not the customer, you are not entitled to express my opinion. The only person who can make any response on this is him. If he appologizes, I delete my posts. Until then this remains as a statement that you can't be rude to someone, regardless of the situation and not accept rammification for your actions. I am not responsible however for Kent's failure to evemail me where this could have been discussed better. Or the escrow not going up the first time where I would have seen an issue and discussed it. I am only responsible for having accepted the trade on good faith that I was getting what I asked for, and I didn't. M.Corp is responsible for the actions of the members, failures and all. Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 08:06:00 - [38] Originally by: munchy tbh this looks like a miscommunication to me, but velios could have been a hell of alot more polite That is all I'm trying to say. Period, thank you Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
Malza koth	Posted - 2006.01.22 08:30:00 - [39] by naming the thread "M. Corp does bad business" that is obviously not all your trying to say...
Wizie	Posted - 2006.01.22 08:44:00 - [40] ROFL @ OP
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.01.22 08:46:00 - [41] Originally by: Mercade Why is it about the money to all of you. If I buy a cheese burger at mcdonalds and the person tells me to shut up. I am sorry but I will have make sure it's known. I don't care if she's mother Theresa or employee of the month. No one is exempt from the rules of being civil. You're right I could have just bought the BPO's. In all honesty I chose to do business to the degree I did based on their reputation. But what I asked for, the customer request I had made, was not satisfied and it was his choice how to handle it. This could be an ebay auction and the person could have 500 positive feedbacks. It does not mean that person can not, or has not done something to desrve me posting negative feedback and that's what I feel. Being told my business isn't worth it over a few ammo bpc's or to shut up because he doesn't have the patience to read a conversation closely enough to see all I asked for was the ammo bpc's I was lead to believe I would get, is not deserving of good feedback. If you disagree, fine. But you are not the customer, you are not entitled to express my opinion. The only person who can make any response on this is him. If he appologizes, I delete my posts. Until then this remains as a statement that you can't be rude to someone, regardless of the situation and not accept rammification for your actions. I am not responsible however for Kent's failure to evemail me where this could have been discussed better. Or the escrow not going up the first time where I would have seen an issue and discussed it. I am only responsible for having accepted the trade on good faith that I was getting what I asked for, and I didn't. M.Corp is responsible for the actions of the members, failures and all. this is actually making u look worse then him ;p dunno what hed apologize about ;p and im sure lots of us have been customers with mcorp before, at least i have ;p so if i go by what u say that means i get to speak up ;p ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
dantes inferno	Posted - 2006.01.22 08:59:00 - [42] well if your intention was to damage M corps business youve probably done the opposit...given them free advertising..i had no idea they did packages like this myself and will probably be purchasing some myself soon. _____ "When mothers warned their children that the monster would get them, that monster was me. I was the nightmare that kept
Xeris	Posted - 2006.01.22 09:06:00 - [43] This is almost as funny as the time my ex boss waited in line for 2 hours at a departmant store service desk because he got overcharged 25 cents. Almost.
Queen Rachok	Posted - 2006.01.22 09:15:00 - [44] Buying something anywhere anyplace is always a risk. Period. And log posts are bad mmkay. Also if you didnt get your money back (didnt bother to read the whole stuff), act upon it, or forget it.
Stratosfear	Posted - 2006.01.22 09:41:00 - [45] I feel like wardeccing this clown just to see what kind of posts will we get. All this about few ammo BPCs, it's beyond pathetic. If anything Velios was way too nice to you.
Kaleeb	Posted - 2006.01.22 09:49:00 - [46] M.Corp has built a great reputation over the years as a good corp but also as one of the major bpc producers (remember "m" means mining) During my time in m.corp I often saw Velios go well out of his way for corp members and customers alike. Now consider this, he is one of the top guys in his alliance and the ceo of a very busy and active corp, he spends a couple of hours copying bpc's for you only to be told you want to give them back even though you got a fantastic deal. Had you taken what you got and politely asked velios for the remaining copies because you didnt realise that all ammo wasnt included he would proably have gone some way to help you out.
The Enslaver	Posted - 2006.01.22 10:06:00 - [47] Mercade: 6/10 for effort 0/10 for being reasonable 10/10 lollerpoints I've used M corp a lot before, and they have never let me down. I've bought some BPC's off them too. <3 Vel. -------- Shinra Director
Karesin	Posted - 2006.01.22 10:19:00 - [48] These package deals sound great, thanks for the heads up
Tiberius Caesar	Posted - 2006.01.22 10:45:00 - [49] Wow, that is a killer deal you got there M. Corp. Is your channel still M. Corp? I'll be dropping buy for some bpc's.
Hast	Posted - 2006.01.22 10:54:00 - [50] hmmm, so your whining over the fact that you didnt get gallente/amarr/caldari ammo with a minmatar Blueprint package. Get real and stop wasting ours and especially Velios and crew's time. I've used their packages before on several occations and its a really good offer. man some people... Give miners a log off timer
sidthesexist	Posted - 2006.01.22 11:13:00 - [51] M Corp > You Merc.
Kelshac	Posted - 2006.01.22 11:24:00 - [52]
Rodge	Posted - 2006.01.22 11:36:00 - [53] Hmmm, so you were unhappy with the excellent deal you got over a crappy ammo bpc. So you complained and got a full refund instantly. And yet you still whine about customer service? I've dealt with Velios and M Corp before and I know from experience that Velios, in particular, goes out of his way to make the customer happy. M Corp 4TW!!!! [ 2005.04.17 00:34:30 ] Nagilam > u better leave Rodge, u will not gank any1 else 2nite......
John W	Posted - 2006.01.22 11:46:00 - [54] I haven't had the time to read all this thread but I know Vel and M Corp well. I know the way that they run the business and I am not surprised to see the many related complementary threads on these forums. I am sure that this is just a case of having wires crossed. I would recommend M Corp for ALL your BPCs
Rabb Darktide	Posted - 2006.01.22 11:47:00 - [55] Folks, The issue isn't the deal he got, its that the customer beleived they were getting something and it was not delivered. It was probably a miscommunication. However, M should have just appologized and gave him the ammo bpcs. No matter who was actually right, and who was actually wrong, the best thing to do from a business standpoint is to just make the customer happy and go on.. I recieved the same sort of treatment at Best Buy a couple of years ago, and have not been back since. As a result, Circuit City has had about $3000 in sales that would have otherwise been going to Best Buy. Rabb Darktide The opinons expressed are my own.. Not CWRA's or RA's.
Shittake	Posted - 2006.01.22 11:51:00 - [56] Originally by: Mercade Why is it about the money to all of you. If I buy a cheese burger at mcdonalds and the person tells me to shut up. I am sorry but I will have make sure it's known. I don't care if she's mother Theresa or employee of the month. No one is exempt from the rules of being civil. You're right I could have just bought the BPO's. In all honesty I chose to do business to the degree I did based on their reputation. But what I asked for, the customer request I had made, was not satisfied and it was his choice how to handle it. This could be an ebay auction and the person could have 500 positive feedbacks. It does not mean that person can not, or has not done something to desrve me posting negative feedback and that's what I feel. Being told my business isn't worth it over a few ammo bpc's or to shut up because he doesn't have the patience to read a conversation closely enough to see all I asked for was the ammo bpc's I was lead to believe I would get, is not deserving of good feedback. If you disagree, fine. But you are not the customer, you are not entitled to express my opinion. The only person who can make any response on this is him. If he appologizes, I delete my posts. Until then this remains as a statement that you can't be rude to someone, regardless of the situation and not accept rammification for your actions. I am not responsible however for Kent's failure to evemail me where this could have been discussed better. Or the escrow not going up the first time where I would have seen an issue and discussed it. I am only responsible for having accepted the trade on good faith that I was getting what I asked for, and I didn't. M.Corp is responsible for the actions of the members, failures and all. I bet your yard is perfectly groomed, all your socks paired up, house spotless. You are a male in your early 20s, most likely not married, your childhood filled with years of you watching your mommy complain about everything she could at the local K-Mart. You feel entitled, as if the world must treat you exactly how YOU want to be treated or THEY are wrong. Asking for decent customer service is your right. But the way you have gone about it publicly has made you look very bad. I would suggest you ask the forum mod to lock this while you are behind.
NereSky	Posted - 2006.01.22 12:43:00 - [57] Originally by: Mercade Why is it about the money to all of you. If I buy a cheese burger at mcdonalds and the person tells me to shut up. I am sorry but I will have make sure it's known. I don't care if she's mother Theresa or employee of the month. No one is exempt from the rules of being civil. You're right I could have just bought the BPO's. In all honesty I chose to do business to the degree I did based on their reputation. But what I asked for, the customer request I had made, was not satisfied and it was his choice how to handle it. This could be an ebay auction and the person could have 500 positive feedbacks. It does not mean that person can not, or has not done something to desrve me posting negative feedback and that's what I feel. Being told my business isn't worth it over a few ammo bpc's or to shut up because he doesn't have the patience to read a conversation closely enough to see all I asked for was the ammo bpc's I was lead to believe I would get, is not deserving of good feedback. If you disagree, fine. But you are not the customer, you are not entitled to express my opinion. The only person who can make any response on this is him. If he appologizes, I delete my posts. Until then this remains as a statement that you can't be rude to someone, regardless of the situation and not accept rammification for your actions. I am not responsible however for Kent's failure to evemail me where this could have been discussed better. Or the escrow not going up the first time where I would have seen an issue and discussed it. I am only responsible for having accepted the trade on good faith that I was getting what I asked for, and I didn't. M.Corp is responsible for the actions of the members, failures and all. Shutup
H Devlin	Posted - 2006.01.22 12:52:00 - [58] I too have been at the mercy of M.Corps terrible service. Having been recommended to them by some of the biggest names and corporations in EVE and having heard that for the last two years they have successfully satisfied millions of orders and customers in some very short deadlines, I chose to do business with M.Corp and subsequently ordered many millions of ISKs worth of BPCs Of course I expected great things but, oh how wrong I was! The BPCs were made and delivered on time to a point of my choosing on the other side of the galaxy. The price was a fantastic deal. They even threw in some extras BPCs free of charge. But not once was I offered a cup of tea whilst discussing my requirements with there helpful and obliging sales team. The horror of it all has left me having nightmares, but on the plus side my therapist has nice jugs. This is no way to conduct business, I want my pound of flesh! Angry of Peckham PS. Vel, I hear you have some BPOs for tech II ships, any deals going on?
Flame Bait	Posted - 2006.01.22 13:00:00 - [59] Hmm, after being told about the packs, as listed in the dudes bio, and also listing it in an earlier post, ya still complain that he dont give ya stuff which aint listed ????. Politeness costs nothing, and if some gimp like you started giving me **** about doing you a good deal - which no one forced you to agree to - I would of told you to stfu. I know people always say the customer is always right... the problem is the tossers in the general public which make up the customer base [;)]
super4lt	Posted - 2006.01.22 13:21:00 - [60] M Corp are greedy and they only care about profit. I was supposed to close a billion isk deal with them once and lets just say I didn't get what I was promised. I also like how 95% of all the trolls in this thread is friends of M Corp. Hopefully customers will notice this and take their business elsewhere. Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
Soulis	Posted - 2006.01.22 13:38:00 - [61] Edited by: Soulis on 22/01/2006 13:38:39 Originally by: Mercade Why is it about the money to all of you. If I buy a cheese burger at mcdonalds and the person tells me to shut up. I am sorry but I will have make sure it's known. I don't care if she's mother Theresa or employee of the month. No one is exempt from the rules of being civil. You're right I could have just bought the BPO's. In all honesty I chose to do business to the degree I did based on their reputation. But what I asked for, the customer request I had made, was not satisfied and it was his choice how to handle it. This could be an ebay auction and the person could have 500 positive feedbacks. It does not mean that person can not, or has not done something to desrve me posting negative feedback and that's what I feel. Being told my business isn't worth it over a few ammo bpc's or to shut up because he doesn't have the patience to read a conversation closely enough to see all I asked for was the ammo bpc's I was lead to believe I would get, is not deserving of good feedback. If you disagree, fine. But you are not the customer, you are not entitled to express my opinion. The only person who can make any response on this is him. If he appologizes, I delete my posts. Until then this remains as a statement that you can't be rude to someone, regardless of the situation and not accept rammification for your actions. I am not responsible however for Kent's failure to evemail me where this could have been discussed better. Or the escrow not going up the first time where I would have seen an issue and discussed it. I am only responsible for having accepted the trade on good faith that I was getting what I asked for, and I didn't. M.Corp is responsible for the actions of the members, failures and all. oooh i nearly forgot.
Velios	Posted - 2006.01.22 13:39:00 - [62] And what Billion isk deal was this? The one you just made up in your head? Btw congratulations on the thread Mercade, this is a masterpiece of character profiling, EVE knows more about your strange, almost consumer rights style activist personality from this thread than I could ever have described in my own words. I never met anyone quite as anally retentive as you in my career as an international CEO Anyway, you got your ISK back, something I didn't have to do by the way having already spent over 40 minutes constructing the packages that totalled over 120 BPC's for you, but I thought I would be fair... The man isn't happy (clearly) so I'll try to ease his suffering. Mercade, all I can say to you is sorry........ M.Corp BPC Packages
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.01.22 14:12:00 - [63] ignore the flames man, i understand you. you were frustrated abuot something and wanted the rest of eve to know about it so they could give you some input about what they think. well it looks like its the K dudes fault as he said Yes when you asked if you got all Ammo BPC, and Velios isnt treating you nice either. for those that say its only small isk bpc deal go buy on escrow, yes he could do that. but it doesnt change what he expected from a proffessional corporation, and that is good customer service. and that is i belive the point of the whole post... "We brake for nobody"
Darcuese	Posted - 2006.01.22 14:16:00 - [64] Originally by: Admiral IceBlock ignore the flames man, i understand you. you were frustrated abuot something and wanted the rest of eve to know about it so they could give you some input about what they think. well it looks like its the K dudes fault as he said Yes when you asked if you got all Ammo BPC, and Velios isnt treating you nice either. for those that say its only small isk bpc deal go buy on escrow, yes he could do that. but it doesnt change what he expected from a proffessional corporation, and that is good customer service. and that is i belive the point of the whole post... something like that. However , it didnt deserve creation of this thread. [ 2005.12.13 23:48:43 ]"I know a brother of Ronaldhino called Rethardihno, and his only 5 jumps away from me in space and usually few posts above me".
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.01.22 14:30:00 - [65] Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 22/01/2006 14:24:12 Originally by: Admiral IceBlock ... However , it didnt deserve creation of this thread. It was probably missunderstanding as it happen anywhere even in profesional companies Yea, I agree.. "We brake for nobody"
Velios	Posted - 2006.01.22 14:44:00 - [66] No it certainly did not. And it's not Kertschers fault either. Whenever someone comes into our channel asking for specific things that we know will take too much time to make we always advise them to look at what we have available off the shelf - listed in our bio's. The guy agreed and ordered 4 racial packs, I threw one in for free too (12m isk's worth) How do I know that Kertscher advised him to look at what we have available off the shelf? Kert is MY alt in empire and is was me that had the convo. This guy just has a bee in his bonnet because he feels it's cool to act like a prat, try and make me feel like some humble sales girl who can be bossed about. I don't play EVE to be spoken to in that manner and I promptly removed him and his alt from our sales channel, after I had refunded his items of course. If I hear any more from this guy I wont hesitate to spend a lot of isk hiring some local pirate corp to war dec him... how's that for customer service? M.Corp BPC Packages
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.01.22 14:45:00 - [67] Originally by: Mercade Why is it about the money to all of you. If I buy a cheese burger at mcdonalds and the person tells me to shut up. I am sorry but I will have make sure it's known. Thats pretty sad. -------------
super4lt	Posted - 2006.01.22 14:56:00 - [68] Originally by: Velios If I hear any more from this guy I wont hesitate to spend a lot of isk hiring some local pirate corp to war dec him... how's that for customer service? Pathetic. Super4lt is here to let yall know what time it is
Rover Vitesse	Posted - 2006.01.22 14:58:00 - [69] Originally by: Velios How do I know that Kertscher advised him to look at what we have available off the shelf? Kert is MY alt in empire and is was me that had the convo. This guy just has a bee in his bonnet because he feels it's cool to act like a prat, try and make me feel like some humble sales girl who can be bossed about. I don't play EVE to be spoken to in that manner and I promptly removed him and his alt from our sales channel, after I had refunded his items of course. If I hear any more from this guy I wont hesitate to spend a lot of isk hiring some local pirate corp to war dec him... how's that for customer service? Thats the long and short of it. This guy is taking great pleasure in making a mountain out of a molehill. He was given what he asked for, didn't like it, and he got the ISK back, yet he still thinks he has an axe to grind, so he comes on the forums and tries to make M Corp and Velios look bad. Well, there is only one guy here who looks foolish, and that's you Mercade. If you were to come into a shop I ran, and started talking to my employees like you did (let alone the Boss), I would show you the door AND place a boot up your Harris Hole. Good manners work both ways, and an arse needs to be shown the error of his ways. Don't like it? Shop somewhere else where some sycophant will pander to your ridiculous viewpoints. Chimaera Pact Minister For Propaganda Rovers Chronicles
slip66	Posted - 2006.01.22 14:59:00 - [70] MCORP are great to deal with and I've never had a problem with them. I would take my business to them anyday.
Wildmeister	Posted - 2006.01.22 15:03:00 - [71] Smells fishy to me. Can't believe anyone would go to the time and effort of this post without some ulterior motive. I hope you're not trying to discredit M.Corp whilst planning to cut in on their business?
Kaleeb	Posted - 2006.01.22 15:11:00 - [72] Originally by: super4lt Originally by: Velios If I hear any more from this guy I wont hesitate to spend a lot of isk hiring some local pirate corp to war dec him... how's that for customer service? Pathetic. nope quality of service
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.01.22 15:25:00 - [73] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/01/2006 15:26:02 Originally by: Wildmeister Smells fishy to me. Can't believe anyone would go to the time and effort of this post without some ulterior motive. I hope you're not trying to discredit M.Corp whilst planning to cut in on their business? Many people post like this because they don't like being wronged. If NAGA scammed me out of 1 million ISK, no matter how pathetic that amount is, you'd bet I'd make a deal out of it. Because NAGA shouldn't scam. And neither should M.Corp. If it was a miscommunication, its up to them to solve it. Mercade--I'd suggest you back out of this thread. You won't get anywhere being flamed for days by M.Corp's alts. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video.
Velios	Posted - 2006.01.22 15:37:00 - [74] That was a good reply before you added that completely stupid bit about mcorp alts at the end.
Wee Dave	Posted - 2006.01.22 16:18:00 - [75] They should amend the Eve tagline: "Be a miner, builder, pirate, or disgruntled small-time customer!"
Rover Vitesse	Posted - 2006.01.22 16:50:00 - [76] Originally by: Wee Dave They should amend the Eve tagline: "Be a miner, builder, pirate, or disgruntled small-time customer!" Originally by: Eve advert Immerse yourself in the vast virgin territories of EVE where power is the Holy Grail and the ultimate aphrodisiac. Conceive a new life wthout boundaries, where murder, plunder, betrayal, and delusions of grandeur will lead you to boundless glory or to the brink of ruin. Become a disgruntled small-time customer complaining about poor customer relations. The galaxy is yours to control if you have the brains, strength, and cunning to succeed. Chimaera Pact Minister For Propaganda Rovers Chronicles
In4r4	Posted - 2006.01.22 17:23:00 - [77] mercade you, are indeed, a*****
Gavin Kineli	Posted - 2006.01.22 20:18:00 - [78] Originally by: Mercade I think Velios should go take lessons from the guys at NAGA. That's a bit insulting to Velios, don't you think? Saying he should take lessons from a corp that's known to lie and cheat?
Onyx Asablot	Posted - 2006.01.22 20:50:00 - [79] I bought exactly the same BP package deal for my corp, at the exactly the same time as Mercade. I am pleased with the great package deal, generous discount, and good service that MCORP_SALES provided. ps MCORP have not paid me to say the above
Zarlath	Posted - 2006.01.22 20:55:00 - [80] Mercade from what i have heard and read you clearly have issues.....btw shamless plug, join MCORP_SALES for great deals
Velios	Posted - 2006.01.22 21:12:00 - [81] Onyx, thanks for the endorsement.... M.Corp BPC Packages
Onyx Asablot	Posted - 2006.01.22 21:21:00 - [82] Edited by: Onyx Asablot on 22/01/2006 21:21:56 thanks. well now i have been paid, i feel 'morally obliged' to give this away to the poor homeless of eve so that they too can experience the pleasure of a hold full of exotic dancers.
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 21:27:00 - [83] Originally by: Rodge Hmmm, so you were unhappy with the excellent deal you got over a crappy ammo bpc. So you complained and got a full refund instantly. And yet you still whine about customer service? I've dealt with Velios and M Corp before and I know from experience that Velios, in particular, goes out of his way to make the customer happy. M Corp 4TW!!!! It wasn't an instant refund. If it was that log would never have transpired would it have? Please don't make uninformed assumptions. Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
Velios	Posted - 2006.01.22 21:28:00 - [84] Oh.... he's back from work. Ding Ding!
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 21:28:00 - [85] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 22/01/2006 15:26:02 Originally by: Wildmeister Smells fishy to me. Can't believe anyone would go to the time and effort of this post without some ulterior motive. I hope you're not trying to discredit M.Corp whilst planning to cut in on their business? Many people post like this because they don't like being wronged. If NAGA scammed me out of 1 million ISK, no matter how pathetic that amount is, you'd bet I'd make a deal out of it. Because NAGA shouldn't scam. And neither should M.Corp. If it was a miscommunication, its up to them to solve it. Mercade--I'd suggest you back out of this thread. You won't get anywhere being flamed for days by M.Corp's alts. Thank you Dark. I respect your opinion and you know what. This thread isn't going to go anywhere positive. But seeing someone value the same aspect of respect is enough for me at this point. Thank you. Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
Mercade	Posted - 2006.01.22 21:33:00 - [86] Edited by: Mercade on 22/01/2006 21:34:24 Moderators lock topic. Enough people with understanding of the term respect have posted. And Velios made his statement regarding violence rather then appology. I think a fist towards any customers is more statement then any comments or logs I can offer. Discussion over. Thanks to those who offered support. EDIT: I delete the original posts Velios. And sundays are my days off, my mother's birthday actually. Would you like to send her some flowers? Originally by: kieron ...possible causes for an extended downtime, I think playing WoW would be close to the bottom of the list, probably between shaving cats and having dental work done w/o anethesia.
Zarlath	Posted - 2006.01.22 21:42:00 - [87] Edited by: Zarlath on 22/01/2006 21:43:04 Originally by: Mercade Edited by: Mercade on 22/01/2006 21:34:24 Moderators lock topic. Enough people with understanding of the term respect have posted. And Velios made his statement regarding violence rather then appology. I think a fist towards any customers is more statement then any comments or logs I can offer. Discussion over. Thanks to those who offered support. EDIT: I delete the original posts Velios. And sundays are my days off, my mother's birthday actually. Would you like to send her some flowers? Why are u bringing RL into this? lol....i suggest u stop whining, all the time uve spent on this pointless thread could have resulted in you making lots of isk to get your phantom Ammo bpcs....also why are you asking the thread to be locked? only for the reason you know you have made yourself look like a fool and have been proven wrong. this is all i have to say on the matter
Nazeer	Posted - 2006.01.22 22:01:00 - [88] Originally by: Velios Mercade, all I can say to you is sorry........ Now I believe you got your apology and you were still obviously unsatisfied.. ....ring any bells? Yes, because it's exactly how you dealt with the package you got! You have even deleted your original post, and the other posts with the chatlogs on, so what are you saying here!? You sound like a complete idiot who doesn't know what he is talking about - that's what you're saying! I have dealt with M.Corp before and I couldn't stop grinning when Velios threw in the extra BPC's! I was very impressed by the way I was spoken to, and I have no complaints - in fact nothing but praise for the man and his corp. In fact I am so happy with the service I got I am willing to take up Velios's offer to you on his behalf. It's just good business!
Nazeer	Posted - 2006.01.22 22:07:00 - [89] Edited by: Nazeer on 22/01/2006 22:09:00 Originally by: Mercade And Velios made his statement regarding violence rather then appology. CAN YOU NOT READ!?!?!?!?!?!?!? Originally by: Mercade EDIT: I delete the original posts Velios. And sundays are my days off, my mother's birthday actually. Would you like to send her some flowers? Is your Mother's Birthday every Sunday? Or just this Sunday!? Originally by: Mercade Edited by: Mercade on 22/01/2006 21:34:24 Moderators lock topic. Whats the matter - can't handle the fact that 95% of people in Eve support M.Corp due to your exhaustively excessive complaining!? After reading this entire thread again, the only people that actually agree with you are RA - who as I hear aren't exactly M.Corps friends in the first place.... ... or Superalt or whatever his name is, who is a coward who doesn't know what he's talking about, made specially to flame posts that have nothing to do with him, and to somehow make himself feel superior because he can say what he likes without fear of repercussion! Well, thank you for the best entertainment I have read for a long time! M.Corp BPC sales FTW!!!!

Jorauk	Posted - 2006.01.22 22:17:00 - [90] Originally by: Mercade ...This thread isn't going to go anywhere positive... And hasn't. Locked for flaming, trolling and generally unconstructive posts. Click rules \| [email protected]


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