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Entilzah Valen	Posted - 2006.01.30 12:49:00 - [61] It's becoming fairly probable by the accounts of what happened that Event team chose the POS as a target in order to do some testing and logging for Dev's to go over.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:05:00 - [62] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Foomanshoe I mean, 0.0 events are nice and all, but taking in multiple capital ships, especially motherships against alliance bases? thats pretty questionable. Whats next? in the middle of fleet battles an Aurora Titan will spawn, drop its doomsday and call it an event? Is that supposed to be fun? Have you seen the loot? Most if not all of those capital ships are equipped with officer equipment. Well, if the gear they were using was actually true to story, they'd have x-type hardeners, not crap tuvans gear. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Lacero Callrisian	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:20:00 - [63] The event in ASCN had similar lag problems. 3 weeks until the new servers right? right?
UndergrounD	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:24:00 - [64] Sounds painful tbh tho if ISD were following the fleet battle theme they would have been better off folowing that theme by travelling x amount of jumps to the target to give, a - the 'enemy' (i.e BoB) time to muster a fleet. b - fighting with what they had and not spawning ships with command lines. props to them for the effort tho, cant wait to see serp POS being put up. -----------------------------------------------
Nifel	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:28:00 - [65] So when can we attack and take over serpentis corp's assets? "We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago." RKK Ranking: (MIN13) Jata
Gan Ning	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:32:00 - [66] Originally by: Dracorimus Would be nice if we could have our turn, we get our stuff blown up by npc's and you get rewards, un-balanced ftw ? You need to stop the whining. The events team were roleplaying Serpentis and always do a damn good job. FYI the last alliance to whine about the events team (CA) never had a event again. So be grateful and give them a break, if you don't want another event, carry on whining.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:36:00 - [67] Originally by: Nifel So when can we attack and take over serpentis corp's assets? /emote has been wondering that about the Mordu's stations for a couple months now... - CCP - New Documentation Please??
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:43:00 - [68] I'm not playing atm and thus wasn't there. Nor do I feel I missed something important. Sure 9+ dreads and a Mothership in pretty lareg fleetbattle outside one of our POS's.. sounds like something one wouldn't want to miss doesn't it ? And carefull readers might even notice that no BoB have complained here directly about how BoB lost an amount of ships that most smaller alliances would need weeks to even replace. But what I personally can't fathom is how event actors meddle in player politics choosing allies left and right and supporting them with unrealistic amounts of hardware and unrealistical pilots. Nor did they show any restraint in using that hardware and skills even when their supposed allies weren't there anymore. And spawning NPC's to replace them ? Now, I like how Oveuir gave these guys some room to show up with the big stuff, and to actually play a significant role. But it has to remain realistic. The serpentis in one fight probably cost BoB more isk in losses then the total of G and FA/VC/IMP efforts in the last couple of weeks did. How can that EVER make sense ? How can any actor be so incredibly shortsighted to think that what he was doing was ok ? When I first got the point that this Serpentis v BoB thing is something we'll see running for some time still. And when I first got the point that that means we get enemies we can't strike back at I thought that it was going to be fun. Sure, it would cost us some hard earned isk of course, as a group. We'd face the inevitable dread losses and lose complete fleets of BS against VC/FA/IMP fleets supported by Serpentis actors in fleetfights that would be fun to be in. Hell putting one or our pos in reinforced mode is fine as well, assuming you actually involve players that we can shoot back at and kill for some real damage . And leaving a single moros back to be killed. Personally, I would have ignored that insult and left its pilot to rot and die of old age before taking that placating piece of crap 'gift'. No, as far as I understand it, I missed nothing good here. Just the usual lack of professionality displayed by CCP once again. I can't blame the event actors, they play within the rules Oveur et all give them. Power to the players !
Pyrotesea	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:43:00 - [69] Edited by: Pyrotesea on 30/01/2006 13:46:24 1st off wow! 2nd OMG! ok now whats up, BOB getting serp luv, apperently some mordus and angel luv down south with MC and gang. where is the love up north with Guristas? (this is not ment to be a flame in any way) if any allience needs help i think FE could use the help of the local NPC's. Really i like to see some Gurista/Caldari capital ships take on our fleet atm. (i am just askign to lose my moros i know) but again looks like you all had some fun, lots of big time jealousy here --------------------------------- What doesn't kill you makes you injured.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:45:00 - [70] Edited by: DB Preacher on 30/01/2006 13:45:45 Originally by: Gan Ning Originally by: Dracorimus Would be nice if we could have our turn, we get our stuff blown up by npc's and you get rewards, un-balanced ftw ? You need to stop the whining. The events team were roleplaying Serpentis and always do a damn good job. FYI the last alliance to whine about the events team (CA) never had a event again. So be grateful and give them a break, if you don't want another event, carry on whining. You should be in corp chat with him Sometimes I don't think half of RKK is happy unless they are grumbling about something :p But yeah I agree completely, the people whining about this event are missing the point of the game. It's all just a bit of fun ;P dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:51:00 - [71] I've got to admit that Rod's post puts the topic in a new light. What if BoB blew up that Nyx? Would it have actually affected things in any way, or would some actor just: "/spawn Nyx" Events like this should be fun and playable, but it should also have some semblence of realism, at least as it relates to the prime fiction of the game. - CCP - New Documentation Please??
Trooper B99	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:52:00 - [72] Originally by: Gan Ning FYI the last alliance to whine about the events team (CA) never had a event again. I still get a wee bit annoyed thinking about that EVENT. I feel we put forward complaints with good reason given by what we saw on our overviews during it, though that might not have been the case according to Keiron after he investigated it. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Gan Ning	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:53:00 - [73] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 30/01/2006 13:45:45 Originally by: Gan Ning Originally by: Dracorimus Would be nice if we could have our turn, we get our stuff blown up by npc's and you get rewards, un-balanced ftw ? You need to stop the whining. The events team were roleplaying Serpentis and always do a damn good job. FYI the last alliance to whine about the events team (CA) never had a event again. So be grateful and give them a break, if you don't want another event, carry on whining. You should be in corp chat with him Sometimes I don't think half of RKK is happy unless they are grumbling about something :p But yeah I agree completely, the people whining about this event are missing the point of the game. It's all just a bit of fun ;P dbp Put him on veldspar duty, that'll sort him out.
Pyrotesea	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:02:00 - [74] btw did any of the moros drop named capital loot? --------------------------------- What doesn't kill you makes you injured.
Echo147	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:02:00 - [75] Originally by: Pyrotesea Edited by: Pyrotesea on 30/01/2006 13:46:24 ok now whats up, BOB getting serp luv, apperently some mordus and angel luv down south with MC and gang. where is the love up north with Guristas? (this is not ment to be a flame in any way) if any allience needs help i think FE could use the help of the local NPC's. Really i like to see some Gurista/Caldari capital ships take on our fleet atm. (i am just askign to lose my moros i know) but again looks like you all had some fun, lots of big time jealousy here We're used to the north getting left out, be it decent ore, complexes or rats (being jammed is so FUN!), so I guess the non-existance of Guristas events is the icing on the cake Someone needs to spank the Aurora team methinks
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:05:00 - [76] Edited by: DB Preacher on 30/01/2006 14:06:41 Originally by: Pyrotesea btw did any of the moros drop named capital loot? 4 x tuvans large reps I believe. Same as the last one we killed. Considering we lost a Dreadnought and a fleet to do it, we weren't making much money on this outing dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Pyrotesea	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:08:00 - [77] --------------------------------- What doesn't kill you makes you injured.
Galavet	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:09:00 - [78] Originally by: Wrayeth Edited by: Wrayeth on 30/01/2006 07:34:24 /me points, laughs, doubles over choking and coughing with tears leaking out the corners of his eyes 'cause he's laughing so hard, then suddenly sobers up as he realizes this could happen to him. EDIT: Galavet, you, Zardock, Rohan, and Lukia still have some killmails you haven't posted on the BoB killboards. Hint. Hint. All of my kill mails that are not being petitioned are posted Mr. one volley. Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
Leilani Solaris	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:12:00 - [79] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 30/01/2006 07:08:02 Originally by: j0sephine "This is the first time I've heard of the Events Team using NPC's. WTF???" It's the result of the recent event in pf-346 i think (the one which involved MC, Norad, Imp and BoB) ... players complained after how the events were no fun because the event team could at best field couple battleships which of course die quickly to focused fire of typical player fleet. Well, it wasn't just that... more along the lines of Oveur being in local and a little OOC chatter getting funny. We said a few things and then there's a giant black monolith in front of our fleet threatening to "devolve" us. Then when we started *****ing about not being able to blow it up, RAT warped in at long range and then... THIS HAPPENED! I lost my uninsured apoc in that but of course petitioned it and got it back thankfully. http://bapwn.eve-killboard.net/
Jean	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:21:00 - [80] Edited by: Jean on 30/01/2006 14:26:30 DBP please tell you minions to stop crying: * Everyone in the game is experiencing the same lag atm > This cancels out you lag whining * You got some officer l00t > This cancels out most relevant losses * You got a tough fight > Isnt this what every bob member wanted?! I think its pathetic that even bob management is complaining about this event. Bob didnt experience anything extraordinary, the entire eve-universe is experiencing the exact same problems. Bob is always bragging they can handle anything... Well, deal with it! ----------------------------- Specialist in Digital Analogy
Gan Ning	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:30:00 - [81] Originally by: Trooper B99 Originally by: Gan Ning FYI the last alliance to whine about the events team (CA) never had a event again. I still get a wee bit annoyed thinking about that EVENT. I feel we put forward complaints with good reason given by what we saw on our overviews during it, though that might not have been the case according to Keiron after he investigated it. Well if I remeber correctly CA was preparing for a fight with Xetic and Stain that were in VOL, I think it was the same evening when BOB was heading down to GW. When the Angels appeared and attacked CA ships in around HLW, CA pilots got angry. I think around 30 minutes after the event CA proceeded to whine about the Events team on this very forum and accuse them of some sort of conspiracy. That wasn't even half the trouble, I believe the Events team was subjected to a lot of insults during the event. So all i'm saying is a word of advice to the few people that are whining. 'Phat lewt', npcs that can talk back and NPC capital ships dont appear all the time. Cherish them, immerse yourself in the rp event and have fun. I'd sell my balls to see a Nyx in space, let alone have the opportunity to shoot at one, so count yourself lucky! (PS. WTS: My balls)
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:39:00 - [82] Originally by: Jean Edited by: Jean on 30/01/2006 14:29:23 DBP/RB/SM please tell you minions to stop crying: * Everyone in the game is experiencing the same lag atm > This cancels out you lag whining * You got some officer l00t > This cancels out most relevant losses * You got a tough fight > Isnt this what every bob member wanted?! I think its pathetic that even bob management is complaining about this event. Bob didnt experience anything extraordinary, the entire eve-universe is experiencing the exact same problems. Bob is always bragging they can handle anything... Well, deal with it! If you would like to try and censure our pilots, please feel free to take it up with them in-game. We, however, will not, they are free to say whatever they want. Sure, they might make themselves look stupid - but I can see that every day on our forums, so why should we care what you think? Secondly, do you actually have any idea who the leaders of BoB are? hint None of them have whined or complained in this thread. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Bozse	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:41:00 - [83] Edited by: Bozse on 30/01/2006 14:43:58 Originally by: Jean Edited by: Jean on 30/01/2006 14:29:23 DBP/RB/SM please tell you minions to stop crying: * Everyone in the game is experiencing the same lag atm > This cancels out you lag whining * You got some officer l00t > This cancels out most relevant losses * You got a tough fight > Isnt this what every bob member wanted?! I think its pathetic that even bob management is complaining about this event. Bob didnt experience anything extraordinary, the entire eve-universe is experiencing the exact same problems. Bob is always bragging they can handle anything... Well, deal with it! So u'r saying that everyone in game gets killed by invisible fleets atm ? 4x Tuvan's reps won't even cover the dread and if u think that u need to study the market a bit more. In the end we got a tough fight sure, still doesn't take away the fact that some feels that the aurora team is steping over the line by attacking a POS without any supply lines to back it up.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:45:00 - [84] I'm not playing atm, but I am sure BoB had fun. However, the only way to make things fair is to: 1.) give someone, say Shrike, possibility to do the same as event team, "/spawn carrier". or 2.) event team is allowed to use only ships that they mined for and bought blueprints for in ISK. Since they, as players are gimped compared to average bob meatshield, they can have the "freeby" by being allowed to "/spawn mining barge" for themselves. Harvester drones have to be bought, tho. How about that?
Ordep	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:46:00 - [85] Originally by: Gan Ning I'd sell my balls to see a Nyx in space, let alone have the opportunity to shoot at one, so count yourself lucky! (PS. WTS: My balls) If u see 1 in space you will be rapped so your balls are worth *******s Other then that we are complaining about the event. All we said was bad timing as the clusters are no good for engagements above the 40 ships in same place. Adding to this the event team launched a crazy number of drones (fighters and ogres II) that even lagged more a lagged system. We are complaining the lost ships, we are not complaining the fact they come to us, but if it is for the good sake of RP they should do things like players must do. This includes activating a cyno field for the dreads ( there was none ), the logistics in such a dread op take time and they done it immediatly. Lag should be to both sides ( we were experiecing warpouts that took 20sec delay, enough for the fighters pwn a BS ), carrier warpouts were immediate. The dreads sieged for almost 2 hours taking heavy firepower from the POS and BoB pilots without refuelling for strontium . Odd things happened and for a good RP enjoyment this kinda of weird stuff should happen Made in Portugal
Rael Anshak	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:46:00 - [86] Edited by: Rael Anshak on 30/01/2006 14:46:13 Originally by: Jean Edited by: Jean on 30/01/2006 14:29:23 DBP/RB/SM please tell you minions to stop crying: * Everyone in the game is experiencing the same lag atm > This cancels out you lag whining * You got some officer l00t > This cancels out most relevant losses * You got a tough fight > Isnt this what every bob member wanted?! I think its pathetic that even bob management is complaining about this event. Bob didnt experience anything extraordinary, the entire eve-universe is experiencing the exact same problems. Bob is always bragging they can handle anything... Well, deal with it! DBP is watching a movie atm so im going to have 2 tear you a new one in his place. So until you've fought 6 dreads and a mothership all drone heavy ships with 21k people online at a POS you can stfu. Most bob members, at least myself, would welcome the fight from serp, at least when they bring it to us they actually fight unlike other factions we've faced. My complaints at least are that they shot at our POS, when serp have no assets we can attack. I wna know when we're going to be able to take some of the stations in fountain. I think Aurora should wait till the new server comes in before they bring this kind of fight to player alliances. Or at least bring the engagement away from a POS. Im sure with proper notice as is expected for an event, and a place set, bob would have mustered a fleet to go head to head with serp. We were able to rally 100+ pilots in a few minutes without notice. How many other alliances can say that? We just werent able to get nearly as many to a2v6 because of the lag at jump ins. Regardless of the outcome and the forum ***ing that day reminded me why im proud 2 be bob. Ive heard people like VC and FA say they dont plan on defending their POSes and other alliances who just put them up to take a station. But when BoB assets are attacked, even by extreme forces. We put everything we have into defending them. BoB for the mother ***** win. oh and DBP, RB, and SM are sexah. ________ Hi
Trooper B99	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:51:00 - [87] Originally by: Gan Ning I think around 30 minutes after the event CA proceeded to whine about the Events team on this very forum and accuse them of some sort of conspiracy. That wasn't even half the trouble, I believe the Events team was subjected to a lot of insults during the event. grins Oh I know what happened as well as what happened afterwards, I was there for the whole show, check the posted local logs further down the page link. Personally, I know exactly what I saw on my overview when i had the EVENT BS's locked both in KLMT and in HLW and as I said, we felt we had legitimate complaints. But thats quite a while ago. But yeah, as you say, EVENT's are good fun to be in and should be cherished. However on the other side, previously they were all voluntary to participate in as opposed having a large "forced" impact so I think both EVENT teams and players are still feeling their way through these. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Gan Ning	Posted - 2006.01.30 15:23:00 - [88] Originally by: Ordep Edited by: Ordep on 30/01/2006 14:51:54 Edited by: Ordep on 30/01/2006 14:49:37 Edited by: Ordep on 30/01/2006 14:48:15 Originally by: Gan Ning I'd sell my balls to see a Nyx in space, let alone have the opportunity to shoot at one, so count yourself lucky! (PS. WTS: My balls) If u see 1 in space you will be rapped so your balls are worth *******s That sounds like hostility Ordep, or possibly bitterness. Since i'm in a good mood i'll let that comment slide, but watch your tone.
Nafri	Posted - 2006.01.30 15:31:00 - [89] smacktastic here today
Kmacross	Posted - 2006.01.30 15:32:00 - [90] Edited by: Kmacross on 30/01/2006 15:33:21 "My fleet inside 4c- is decimated but finally starts logging on, we get a few guys back together and go back in against Norad. This time we encounter no lag and simply decimate norad for a couple of support losses " Battleships are Support losses? btw norad forces had also lag ;)

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