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Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.30 05:42:00 - [1] Okay, I'll ask because I'm at work and dying to know: I was looking at the BoB Killboard this morning and saw that the Serpentis showed up in 4C-B7X last night with at least 3 Moros Dreads and a frakin' NYX! Looks like one hell of a fight. Then in A2V6-6, BoB took down a Serp Moros and it looks like another major battle took place with the same force. This Serp thing against BoB seems to be shaping up into something much more than the average "one-shot" events of the past. The MC has been approached as part of this storyline and a couple others as well. I've also heard a lot about the Sansha vs. Angels/ASCN conflict going on in the south. That seems to be shaping up as well into something long-term. What else is going on out there? Is it time to applaud the Events Team for finally finding some resolve and sticking it to the players a bit? How much more of this can we expect to see in the future? I'd love to hear comments from everyone involved as to what your experiences have been over the past month or so. - CCP - New Documentation Please??
Leno	Posted - 2006.01.30 05:57:00 - [2] Sounds pretty cool if this is true, i havent really been paying attention to this stuff. --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Cowboy	Posted - 2006.01.30 06:01:00 - [3] Originally by: Seleene Okay, I'll ask because I'm at work and dying to know: I was looking at the BoB Killboard this morning and saw that the Serpentis showed up in 4C-B7X last night with at least 3 Moros Dreads and a frakin' NYX! Looks like one hell of a fight. Then in A2V6-6, BoB took down a Serp Moros and it looks like another major battle took place with the same force. This Serp thing against BoB seems to be shaping up into something much more than the average "one-shot" events of the past. The MC has been approached as part of this storyline and a couple others as well. I've also heard a lot about the Sansha vs. Angels/ASCN conflict going on in the south. That seems to be shaping up as well into something long-term. What else is going on out there? Is it time to applaud the Events Team for finally finding some resolve and sticking it to the players a bit? How much more of this can we expect to see in the future? I'd love to hear comments from everyone involved as to what your experiences have been over the past month or so. Get back to work slacker
SpaceDrake Storyteller	Posted - 2006.01.30 06:17:00 - [4] This was discussed - thoroughly - in the OOC channel. I'll grant this is hearsay, but the BoB folks I spoke to were unbelieveably ed at the way this event was handled. The Nyx/Moros gankfleet essentially spawned right on top of their PoS as they were fighting GIRON, and forced the PoS into reinforced mode. The events team then proceeded to spawn NPCs right in the middle of the BoB fleet as they were fighting the Nyx and the Moroses. The folks I spoke to seemed to find all of this far more cheap than they did enjoyable. -------------- What good are actions if there's no one to tell the tale afterward? Player of the character "Andre Ricard".
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.30 06:18:00 - [5] Originally by: Cowboy Get back to work slacker 1.) Monday morning + snow on the roads = dead office. 2.) You have two weeks off and are behind on your mining quota, slacker. To add to the original topic - AFAIK, Mordus Legion have gone into extended hibernation again so no progress on that front AFAIK. - CCP - New Documentation Please??
Fedaykin Naib	Posted - 2006.01.30 06:20:00 - [6] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: SpaceDrake Storyteller The events team then proceeded to spawn NPCs right in the middle of the BoB fleet as they were fighting the Nyx and the Moroses. This is the first time I've heard of the Events Team using NPC's. WTF??? Cowboy mining! HAH! "Long Live the Fighters!" "The weak come and go with time. The strong have remained" - v ger
theRaptor	Posted - 2006.01.30 06:20:00 - [7] Five moros and a Nyx that took down our POS and distracted us from a fleet fight with G. Aurora aren't even fun to fight because they fly uber pimped ships and then let you win a little (the dread we killed was left by his buddies with not even a attempt by the others to snipe, or by the Nyx which called have killed the tacklers easy). Oh and motherships > all. That many fighters is insane to fight, and the damn mothership can warp around at will (total immunity to all EW, that includes webs and scramblers). And moros are evil, I got wrecked for 900 by an Ogre II, in rifter, not webbed or MWDing. Im annoyed because I would rather have fought G. It is just no fun fighting uber pwn machines that let you win. Oh and now we get to babysit the POS until it gets out of reinforced. The fun, the fun. I don't think you trust, in, my, self-righteous suicide.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.30 06:20:00 - [8] Originally by: SpaceDrake Storyteller The events team then proceeded to spawn NPCs right in the middle of the BoB fleet as they were fighting the Nyx and the Moroses. This is the first time I've heard of the Events Team using NPC's. WTF??? - CCP - New Documentation Please??
theRaptor	Posted - 2006.01.30 06:23:00 - [9] Originally by: SpaceDrake Storyteller This was discussed - thoroughly - in the OOC channel. I'll grant this is hearsay, but the BoB folks I spoke to were unbelieveably ed at the way this event was handled. The Nyx/Moros gankfleet essentially spawned right on top of their PoS as they were fighting GIRON, and forced the PoS into reinforced mode. The events team then proceeded to spawn NPCs right in the middle of the BoB fleet as they were fighting the Nyx and the Moroses. The folks I spoke to seemed to find all of this far more cheap than they did enjoyable. No, no. They spawned ten jumps behind our fleet. Ten jumps of dead end systems. No cyno or anything. If they had at least cynoed in a lot of people would have been less annoyed. I mean are we to worry that any of our POS could have a whole bunch of Aurora dreads jump in with zero notice? For real players it takes quite a bit of time and effort to move capital ships around, but aurora can be anywhere in eve in less then a minute. Realistically you can't raise a fleet quickly enough to fend off attack. I don't think you trust, in, my, self-righteous suicide.
DarkXeRoX	Posted - 2006.01.30 06:35:00 - [10] The fact that the servers can't realy handle big fights isn't realy helpfull either was looking forward for a good fight but i should have known the lag would kill that plesure again... Would be better if ccp sorted out all that stuff before spawning loads of fleetbattles out of thin air.
Galavet	Posted - 2006.01.30 06:35:00 - [11] Originally by: Seleene Okay, I'll ask because I'm at work and dying to know: I was looking at the BoB Killboard this morning and saw that the Serpentis showed up in 4C-B7X last night with at least 3 Moros Dreads and a frakin' NYX! Looks like one hell of a fight. Then in A2V6-6, BoB took down a Serp Moros and it looks like another major battle took place with the same force. This Serp thing against BoB seems to be shaping up into something much more than the average "one-shot" events of the past. The MC has been approached as part of this storyline and a couple others as well. I've also heard a lot about the Sansha vs. Angels/ASCN conflict going on in the south. That seems to be shaping up as well into something long-term. What else is going on out there? Is it time to applaud the Events Team for finally finding some resolve and sticking it to the players a bit? How much more of this can we expect to see in the future? I'd love to hear comments from everyone involved as to what your experiences have been over the past month or so. This is the quick version of what happend today, I can give you the details on MSN when I get into work myself. Serps appear out of thin air with Multiple captial ships (mothership 6 dreads) and make a move onto A2V6. Molle is able to get a gang of about 45 to 50 together to counter/stall the attack. A group of about 50 BoB move up from Delve and run into a G/NORAD fleet (80ish) in 4C who in our guess were heading to join the serps in A2 for some fun. Some dancing was done and both fleets end up one jump outside of 4C. Next the Lag Monster showed up. We get word of 10 NORAD ships sitting in 4C covering the gate back in, our scout failed to mention the Lag Monster had set up camp with them, we suspect he was flying a Raven. 50 plus BoB BS and TechII ships Jump into 10 NORAD Dominix and Ravens. Loading.. Loading.. Loading.. Loading.. Loading.. ffs we staggered our jumps in groups of 15 over 30 seconds apart... Loading.. Loading.. Emergency Warps back to the gate.. No enemys to be seen. Dead. The game could not handle a 50V10 gank and froze on us. The 10 proceeded to BBQ everyone on emergency warps and G support came through and added to the Lag. I stormed off cursing loudly, I think G went home about this same time. Later I hear our few guys attacking a Serp Capital fleet and downing one moros, as the ships continued to spawn on top of their heads. Didnt sound to pretty. Listen I love events and all, but maybe put off brining 2 alliances and a capital ship fleet until after the server upgrades are done. Pretty Please? Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
Fred0	Posted - 2006.01.30 06:53:00 - [12] Originally by: Seleene This is the first time I've heard of the Events Team using NPC's. WTF??? I think Oveur used them in the Mordu rp aswell atleast once against MC/BOB. Oh and sigh. Fix the goddamn game. Jumping in alone into an empty system will take up to 5 minutes if you are unlucky nowadays. Is EVE really reduced to luck of the draw nodes?
Righteous Fury	Posted - 2006.01.30 07:01:00 - [13] Edited by: Righteous Fury on 30/01/2006 07:01:30 Originally by: Seleene 2.) You have two weeks off and are behind on your mining quota, slacker. Whoa, whoa now. Be careful throwing around the words mining and slacker in the same sentence. I start to get paranoid sometimes! The event sounds like it had the potential to have been a lot of fun, but lag has been a ridiculous problem these last few days especially. Even in small gangs of less than 5, I've been in situations where it literally took us ten minutes to move through a system - only to give up afterwards and log off because we can't be assed playing in such conditions. I led a 40 pilot gang against a POS about a week ago in Delve, even just that was trying my patience. Kudos to you guys for putting up a fight even in the face of lag, I know I wouldn't have even bothered.
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.01.30 07:02:00 - [14] Edited by: j0sephine on 30/01/2006 07:02:20 "This is the first time I've heard of the Events Team using NPC's. WTF???" It's the result of the recent event in pf-346 i think (the one which involved MC, Norad, Imp and BoB) ... players complained after how the events were no fun because the event team could at best field couple battleships which of course die quickly to focused fire of typical player fleet. Oveur said he basically agrees, and the event team got clearance to use larger (capital) ships, better equipment and ability to spawn NPCs as their 'guards' Basically we (players) got what we asked for, minus the servers' ability to actually handle this all >.<;
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.30 07:07:00 - [15] Edited by: Seleene on 30/01/2006 07:08:02 Originally by: j0sephine "This is the first time I've heard of the Events Team using NPC's. WTF???" It's the result of the recent event in pf-346 i think (the one which involved MC, Norad, Imp and BoB) ... players complained after how the events were no fun because the event team could at best field couple battleships which of course die quickly to focused fire of typical player fleet. Well, it wasn't just that... more along the lines of Oveur being in local and a little OOC chatter getting funny. We said a few things and then there's a giant black monolith in front of our fleet threatening to "devolve" us. Then when we started *****ing about not being able to blow it up, RAT warped in at long range and then... THIS HAPPENED! - CCP - New Documentation Please??
Foomanshoe	Posted - 2006.01.30 07:14:00 - [16] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: SpaceDrake Storyteller The events team then proceeded to spawn NPCs right in the middle of the BoB fleet as they were fighting the Nyx and the Moroses. This is the first time I've heard of the Events Team using NPC's. WTF??? They were spawned in the prime fiction event where cloaking devices were used. As a side note, isnt this kinda thing why CCP wasnt supposed to do events in 0.0? cause it imbalances eve politics? Not to mention accusations of favoritism? Remember the jovian event? I mean, 0.0 events are nice and all, but taking in multiple capital ships, especially motherships against alliance bases? thats pretty questionable. Whats next? in the middle of fleet battles an Aurora Titan will spawn, drop its doomsday and call it an event? Is that supposed to be fun? How about intriguing stories and memorable characters? Im not saying make events risk free and easy loot where players should never die, but if your going to be wtfpwn'ing people they should at least have the choice if they want to parttake in the events. _______________________________________________ Deadspace For Dead space! Originally by: Oveur To the nerfmobile!
Dukath	Posted - 2006.01.30 07:22:00 - [17] I think its good that these things start to happen and i hope that the event team sees these criticisms as constructive and helps them to make sure the events grow out to more fair and balanced events. positive 1) On the plus side I like the fact that the event team is teaming up with real players. This lowers their reliability on having to spawn NPCs. 2) I like the fact that they use capital ships. negative 1) Why in hells name on a sunday evening late at night? Friday evening, saturday evening, sunday during the day... but please stop doing these things when most of us have to prep to go to work the next day. 2) please be realistic in the gameplay. With this i mean use characters with normal skillpoints and gear. Sure you can use faction stuff but not every skilllevel needs to be at level 5. Use cynofields FFS. Spawning a capital fleet without any warning is just stupid. I know it takes a bit more work, having one event guy transport himself to 6 systems and setting up the fields, but it would make the event so muhc more realistic and at least give the other side a reasonable warning. 3) i heard rumours early in the day about G + serpentis attacking our POS. very nice, I assumed serpentis would bring in capital ships with G fleet being support and their own caps. Then G moves in, decides its not worth it and withdraws. That means that the serpentis fleet doesnt have their own support. So you should have been ****** when your allies leave you alone. Not simply spawn your own support fleet. Otherwise you completely unbalance the fights and give an unfair advantage to one side. Take it up with G for running and ruining the attack if that happens, don't just screw BoB by spawning more ships to your liking. Please take these things into consideration for next event. Thanks
Wrayeth	Posted - 2006.01.30 07:33:00 - [18] Edited by: Wrayeth on 30/01/2006 07:34:24 /me points, laughs, doubles over choking and coughing with tears leaking out the corners of his eyes 'cause he's laughing so hard, then suddenly sobers up as he realizes this could happen to him. EDIT: Galavet, you, Zardock, Rohan, and Lukia still have some killmails you haven't posted on the BoB killboards. Hint. Hint. -Wrayeth
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.01.30 07:40:00 - [19] well whats the ******* point really making event like these when major events (e.g Gallente Election) hasnt even started and it was announced one and a half year ago? "We brake for nobody"
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.30 07:42:00 - [20] Dukath's post is excellent. Originally by: Admiral IceBlock well whats the ******* point really making event like these when major events (e.g Gallente Election) hasnt even started and it was announced one and a half year ago? You're not the only one wondering this, Ice. - CCP - New Documentation Please??
F'nog	Posted - 2006.01.30 07:55:00 - [21] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 30/01/2006 07:08:02 Originally by: j0sephine "This is the first time I've heard of the Events Team using NPC's. WTF???" It's the result of the recent event in pf-346 i think (the one which involved MC, Norad, Imp and BoB) ... players complained after how the events were no fun because the event team could at best field couple battleships which of course die quickly to focused fire of typical player fleet. Well, it wasn't just that... more along the lines of Oveur being in local and a little OOC chatter getting funny. We said a few things and then there's a giant black monolith in front of our fleet threatening to "devolve" us. Then when we started ***ing about not being able to blow it up, RAT warped in at long range and then... THIS HAPPENED! OMG, that's worth it just for the music and the quotes at the beginning. Originally by:** rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.01.30 08:01:00 - [22] "Well, it wasn't just that... more along the lines of Oveur being in local and a little OOC chatter getting funny." Hey, i was there ^^ (best line in local imo was someone asking Oveur to spawn Ginger Magician on the gate ;s) ... when i said people whined and Oveur responded to it, was referring to thread that took place after, in this forum section ^^;;
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.01.30 08:05:00 - [23] "well whats the ****** point really making event like these when major events (e.g Gallente Election) hasnt even started and it was announced one and a half year ago?"* CCP has pretty much admitted not that long ago they don't have manpower to handle event of this size, so it's likely abandoned at least until Kali with its factional warfare system....
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.30 08:12:00 - [24] Interesting day for me yesterday. After organising BoB to roll from delve to A2V6 in 3 groups to try and avoid lag (kudos to the 100 BoB who rolled at a minutes notice... all other alliances really should fear that) We got two of the groups into a2v6 and they set up an excellent defence with about 60 people consisting of BS, Capital Ships and Lots of Bubbles (and BubBLeS) and prolly some cake for when G arrive. G had a fleet of 80, which my group of 40 run straight into (another 5 minutes and we would have been ahead of them and into a2v6). So I play the funny catch them as they are jumping out game. No point in trying to fight directly or going long range with half the numbers and stupid lag. We simply would have died. Finally, we are one jump out from 4c- waiting for them to try and move again when we hear about the NORAD dudes sitting on the other side. Easy Meat. Give the call to jump in and stay cloaked. No one loaded at all, we had 3 times their numbers and we didn't kill any of them and lost about 8 BS I think. Bah Humbug. G at this point up and go home, they were stuck between a rock, a hard place and some severe lag. Don't blame them for going home but they should have guessed they wouldn't be allowed to simply roll over a BoB pos without a reaction. My fleet inside 4c- is decimated but finally starts logging on, we get a few guys back together and go back in against Norad. This time we encounter no lag and simply decimate norad for a couple of support losses. By this time the serps team are in full flow against our pos, Shrike's Revelation has been insta-popped by fighters. Yes, that's a dreadnought being instapopped pretty much. Our guys are trying hit and runs, desperately picking off a few of the fighters and taking heavy losses. We aim to go back, get within 5 jumps and most of my gang gets lagged out completely. Reboot > can't log back in. We sit and listen to fight on TS, eventually the events people start pulling back and one dreadnought is left to die. The second the fight is finished, the lag instantly clears for my group and we can enter a2v6. Thoughts on the evening... I lost half my fleet jumping into an undisciplined group a third of my size, that simply shouldn't happen in this game. The events team gave us an amazing battle with all of BoB rolling for it, it could have been legendary if the servers could handle it. Again we have seen the power of the capital ships, anyone complaining about not getting a chance to fight them should seriously ponder if they have the ability to lose a whole fleet of ships without concern (coz we did). Why G and Serps seemingly teamed up is a bit beyond me, I guess serps saw how rubbish VC/FA/IMP were and decided to go for the heavy mob. Considering G can hold their own against us anyway, I wonder what would have happened if we had teamed up with the serps against G? Anyway, I had wicked fun overall, the guys with me were superb in discipline and we eventually got that fight versus Norad, just wish we coulda made the serp fight too. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
theRaptor	Posted - 2006.01.30 08:13:00 - [25] Originally by: DarkXeRoX The fact that the servers can't realy handle big fights isn't realy helpfull either The servers can't handle a medium fight either. There were 40ish BoB vs the 7 Serps and lag was a real *****. Not really bad but every now and then someone would just lose control over their ship, and warping back to the POS took forever. At least it wasnt in fountain where we had people emergency warping off at every jimp. I don't think you trust, in, my, self-righteous suicide.
theRaptor	Posted - 2006.01.30 08:19:00 - [26] Edited by: theRaptor on 30/01/2006 08:20:17 Originally by: DB Preacher By this time the serps team are in full flow against our pos, Shrike's Revelation has been insta-popped by fighters. Yes, that's a dreadnought being instapopped pretty much. I haven't seen Shrikes combat log but the killmail has all the Moros on it using Orgre II's. And those Ogres were wrecking my rifter for 900, times that by 30 and it is a hell of a lot of firepower. Moros > other dreads. But mothership > all. Even having six frigs bumbing him wasn't enough to stop that mothership from warping. I don't think you trust, in, my, self-righteous suicide.
Fred0	Posted - 2006.01.30 08:31:00 - [27] Originally by: DB Preacher Why G and Serps seemingly teamed up is a bit beyond me, I guess serps saw how rubbish VC/FA/IMP were and decided to go for the heavy mob. Considering G can hold their own against us anyway, I wonder what would have happened if we had teamed up with the serps against G? If people are supposed to keep the larger storyline intact with with real eve politics it has the potential to get messy and counting on the npc factions is iffy since they tend to go awol for long bits... Then again it would absolutely rawk if the bigger pvp alliances in this game took an actual stance and acted according to the traditional rivalries Imho
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.30 08:36:00 - [28] Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: DB Preacher Why G and Serps seemingly teamed up is a bit beyond me, I guess serps saw how rubbish VC/FA/IMP were and decided to go for the heavy mob. Considering G can hold their own against us anyway, I wonder what would have happened if we had teamed up with the serps against G? If people are supposed to keep the larger storyline intact with with real eve politics it has the potential to get messy and counting on the npc factions is iffy since they tend to go awol for long bits... Then again it would absolutely rawk if the bigger pvp alliances in this game took an actual stance and acted according to the traditional rivalries Imho Ya, I don't mind it getting messy. I was more talking about how it would look if BoB were to team up with an NPC faction to go and attack a hostile POS in a random place. Can you imagine the cries of favouritism and hax0rsploit? I personally welcome the challenge... bring on everyone against us but that doesn't stop me being a little annoyed at the duality of the situation. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2006.01.30 08:43:00 - [29] I yearn to fly a Nyx..
Sun Wu	Posted - 2006.01.30 08:46:00 - [30] Originally by: theRaptor Edited by: theRaptor on 30/01/2006 08:20:17 Originally by: DB Preacher By this time the serps team are in full flow against our pos, Shrike's Revelation has been insta-popped by fighters. Yes, that's a dreadnought being instapopped pretty much. I haven't seen Shrikes combat log but the killmail has all the Moros on it using Orgre II's. And those Ogres were wrecking my rifter for 900, times that by 30 and it is a hell of a lot of firepower. Moros > other dreads. But mothership > all. Even having six frigs bumbing him wasn't enough to stop that mothership from warping. Those fighters were like those ogres on steroids... I got the fraps of the dreaddy going down from a fighter viewpoint, which prolly was my highlight of the evening. Then my HD became full -.- and I didn't get any of the 1-2 hours of combat that followed on fraps :( . For me the evening was 2 parts, first preparing and being let down by the G fleets failure to actually arrive, we had everything set for a great fight and then that didn't happen. I think people have spoken about various reasons for that already. An hour later or so I hear the word 6 dreads and figure it might be time to stop playing other games and get back into EVE, I just jump into a2v and behold, there's 6 moros and a nyx sitting at the entrance gate. Once the initial "Oh **** I'm gonna die!" goes by I remember that I'm in a stiletto and they can't touch me unless drones/fighters come out and just make my exit from that gate. Then follows about 2 hours worth of dreads vs POS combat with their maxed out(assumption) characters and supergear vs what we could muster to log back in. Sunday evening isn't the prime EVE time for many of the working and family having people but we still manage a pretty nice amount of people. The lag for me wasn't that bad, although my stiletto died at one point and it took a minute before I actually got my pod, having firlborlgs+ogres after your ass is hard... Atleast during the dread fight the lag was mainly when entering the POS area, once it loaded it ran smoothly, atleast for me. Since I didn't get the whole thing on fraps I doubt I'll have enough to cut a proper vid from but I might put the dread popping by fighters up just cause it looked so good... ________________________________
Rexthor Hammerfists	Posted - 2006.01.30 09:02:00 - [31] aside from the appearin of thin air, i find it great that theres a storyline goin on. also a nice challange - and tbh, id prefer to get soe experience against a mothership etc. from npcs then from other players ;), i wonder if thex get hte titan out in a week or 2 o.O btw, a serpentis general, whos elading thousands and more ppl, should have a few more skillpoints and its perfectly fine for me that these guys have maxxed skills. i was int he group with db preacher, and 1j away when the dread explode.. kinda annoying - but was still fun with norad. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Ordep	Posted - 2006.01.30 09:21:00 - [32] I like this event stuff and all, but what i don¦t agree on is a faction corp as serpentis or any other attacking Player Owned Stations. Weren¦t the events teams supposed not to have influence in a Corp/alliance belogings ?? I¦m not talking about ships, i¦m talking about Structures. What if the serpentis would commence attacking all our POS ?? What if any other faction event team starts to pick up POS and outposts from any other corp/alliance ? I don¦t know the long term consequences of this attack, but it sure did affect BoB in the fact that we had a POS in reinforced by a event team. In MY opinion this shouldn¦t happen. And i think theres something in the EULA about it. In the end it was a major battle and i had lots of fun but i still don¦t agree on the fact that Faction/Event teams should have influence in the Players Owned Strutures. This is my opinion NOT the BoB view of events Made in Portugal
BOldMan	Posted - 2006.01.30 09:25:00 - [33] Originally by: theRaptor But mothership > all. Even having six frigs bumbing him wasn't enough to stop that mothership from warping. I can imagine what can stop this piece of rock to escape. After each bumb my inty stopped like a dead duck for 20-30 seconds and each bumb mean a new chance to be instapoped by ogre2 or fighters skill lev MAX. I like chalanges, but the enemies was beyound real mechanic and skill of present game. I the end I survive to this carnage only to mwd-ing all the time and be a lucky untargeted player too much by dreads. And really, an inty can kill only ogres, no chance to break carrier's fighters or to scramble something. In the end the lag was worst enemy. Originally by: Treacle Shazboat Trying to buy from the market. The buy window is blank. Try to send a petition dropped me to the desktop.
Leitari	Posted - 2006.01.30 09:47:00 - [34] Edited by: Leitari on 30/01/2006 09:48:52 I think I'll start by apologizing to the isd people for the ***ing I gave them in local after my death, not their fault. Im as **ed off as I'll ever be. I spent 2 hours getting ready and travelling to a2v6 for the fight. I waited patiently to get into range for my nosferatus to go to work. I waited patiently for my client to catch up on the lag. I waited patiently for the lag to clear up when I saw I had no control over my ships function while beeing bombarded by the dreadnaughts and their Ogre drone fleet of doom. The entire evening was a complete waste of time for me. I could have spent it staring at the wall. To pick this time to organize an event of this magnitude KNOWING that the servers are very unstable is very very odd to say the least. Props to isd for the event, just pick another time for it, sundays are lagdays. Its a fact...... not that it would matter for me as I always get my butt kicked by lag in these fights.....
Rexthor Hammerfists	Posted - 2006.01.30 09:53:00 - [35] imo there should be more event ppl - and these event guys should make true what stands int he pirate descriptions. when ppl wonna live in regions with npc stations let em pay for them - ah tw, let ppl destroy npc stations, too then plz ;). - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
Leitari	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:07:00 - [36] Edited by: Leitari on 30/01/2006 10:07:13 Edited by: Leitari on 30/01/2006 10:06:59 also , fighting capital ships flown by the isd team is meaningless, no effort was put into building them, it doesnt mean anything if they lose them but it means alot if we lose ships against them coz alot of time is spent making them. I'd rather want to fight a player who's put actual work on the line. Im all for more events, but having the isd providing the bulk of the guns isnt something I would find interesting in fighting. ok.... nag over GO SERVER UPGRADES :D
Dracorimus	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:14:00 - [37] Well, I was there, in A2V6 expecting G to arrive anytime soon and knowing that serpentis may come along too. We hear from 2nd fleet let by DB Preacher that G are currently one system away from them near 4c- which gave us a nice buffer, nothing happened for a while so we decided to move down to help DB with the G fleet as DB was kinda outnumbered, so we move down quite a few jumps, then low and behold, we hear that "all of a sudden" serpentis have appeared in A2...WTF... So we hot foot it back up and the pos is pretty much already in re-inforced lol, then the lag hits with only 40 of us and 7 NPC capital ships, then they start spawning more NPC ships, arrrrghhh, lag lag lag.... Fighting NPC faction alone was supposed to happen right ? Or were they only supposed to attack along with G, cos I think it was a bit unfair to us, that G didnt make good their attack and yet we were still getting battered around by the event team by themselves, I think they shoulda pulled out when G did tbh...and argued amongst themselves for their inadequacies <-- spelling? Anyways...Just my 2 cents... - Comin' at ya!
darth solo	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:33:00 - [38] we were invited down again, but couldnt make it. Serpentis seem to be using us a meat shield, so prob a good thing. although we did get our reward from the Admiral. d solo.
Dracorimus	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:36:00 - [39] Would be nice if we could have our turn, we get our stuff blown up by npc's and you get rewards, un-balanced ftw ? - Comin' at ya!
Ordep	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:39:00 - [40] Originally by: darth solo we were invited down again, but couldnt make it. Serpentis seem to be using us a meat shield, so prob a good thing. although we did get our reward from the Admiral. d solo. So it seems someone is gaining from this events Made in Portugal
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:40:00 - [41] Originally by: Dracorimus Would be nice if we could have our turn, we get our stuff blown up by npc's and you get rewards, un-balanced ftw ? We get the phat lewt. And provided Serps keep on dropping phat lewt, i say bring it on. .... Real men use blasters
Ordep	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:43:00 - [42] Originally by: Fi T'Zeh We get the phat lewt. And provided Serps keep on dropping phat lewt, i say bring it on. They didn¦t. Only fat thing i saw yesterday was my phone bill Made in Portugal
darth solo	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:44:00 - [43] Originally by: Ordep Originally by: darth solo we were invited down again, but couldnt make it. Serpentis seem to be using us a meat shield, so prob a good thing. although we did get our reward from the Admiral. d solo. So it seems someone is gaining from this events gaining is a wee bit of the mark... when we are involved in the serp events none of us come back alive.. our entire fleet gets destroyed.. You are meant to be defending ur home space, god knows what we are doing there. d solo.
Dracorimus	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:44:00 - [44] I meant when do we get to go with some NPC's and pwn the crap outta someone, not that we need npc for that but meh, and get a reward too - Comin' at ya!
Ordep	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:47:00 - [45] Edited by: Ordep on 30/01/2006 10:47:43 Originally by: darth solo You are meant to be defending ur home space, god knows what we are doing there. d solo. Having fun and getting rewards ?? EDIT: Ok..i spammed the topic. I¦m off Made in Portugal
Dracorimus	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:48:00 - [46] Moros hasnt updated on my killboard sig /me slaps ordep not fair - Comin' at ya!
Darko1107	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:48:00 - [47] Sounds like fun, shame the lag ruined it but that should be fixed soon. And at least you got a dread kill. Everything else sounds reasonable.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:52:00 - [48] Originally by: Wrayeth EDIT: Galavet, you, Zardock, Rohan, and Lukia still have some killmails you haven't posted on the BoB killboards. Hint. Hint. sigh. Send them to the ceo's, or stfu. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Ordep	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:52:00 - [49] Originally by: Dracorimus Moros hasnt updated on my killboard sig /me slaps ordep not fair Just a remark... You are not in it. Live with it. U got the Thanatos, i got this one. MUAHAHAH Lov Draco Made in Portugal
Professor McFly	Posted - 2006.01.30 10:54:00 - [50] I heard Interdictors can prevent Capital Ships from jumping even if they're immune to targetted EW. Did you guys not try it? __________________ Retard's handbook
Seppel da'FinNI	Posted - 2006.01.30 11:00:00 - [51] just one thing to say.. you are actually complaining that Serpentis fight for their hometurf? you gotta be kiddin. life's a game - sometimes you loose, most times other win.
Aikowan	Posted - 2006.01.30 11:05:00 - [52] Actually its nice to see that the NPC Factions start to defend their places, if you put POS in a system with their Shipyard. Aikowan
Romulus Maximus	Posted - 2006.01.30 11:10:00 - [53] For the most part,i found the evening to be a waste of time. Suffice to say, i was unimpressed. After hauling ass to a2,camping, bubbling the gate to high heaven. G decided not to come. But to stop areound 4c. At this time there was around 60 ppl in a2. I go for dinner,come back,about 15-20 ppl in a2. Rest of fleet moved down to assit DBP. All of a sudden,6 Moros and a Nyx appear at the gate. No cyno,no warning. They warp to a planet, we mess around a bit. They warp to our pos , and engage it. Our fleet, now had some more numbers, and some dreads. We move outside to engage. Fighters and drones are quickly deployed,lag begins. One dread is popped in like 30secs, admitadly not in siege. Rest return to bubble. After this, we spend the next 2 hrs or so trying to pick off the drones and fighters. An Ogre II took me almost 2 minutes to kill with a Harpy. It was webbed,even once on structure,it was insanely tough. We catch the Nyx at planets etc playing around, but its impossible to hold. Back at the pos, its into armour, were bumping for our lives while the bs and dreads pound on it. But it still warps. In the end, they withdrew after the pos was reinforced, leaving a token dread for us to kill. Things that really annoyed me. The instant spawning of thier fleet without a cyno. The spawning of npcs at most planets,meaning our forces running from the fighters were caught. * The non showing of G, meaning in the end, and events team just came in and pwnd our pos. There reasoning, we are a threat to thier Shipyards. If im not mistaken, were certainly not the first ppl to have a pos there. * The npc frigs/cruisers at pos just changed into BS. Then just appeared in the middle of our BS. Like 6 Dreads with god knows how many drones, and a Mothership with 20+ fighters isnt enough . * The event timing was unreal,long before the fight, in travel, some of us were emergency warping jumping into empty systems. The lag was unreal in places. I personally, have no interest in RP. I would much rather learn how good Motherships etc are in a real battle. Not some meaningless event. I have no interest fighting an events team. Especially when its targetted directly at our belongings. A public event like the Titan event etc isnt so bad. But an events team coming to bbq a single alliance is lame. Despite common believes, we dont have a /spawn_new_ship command like the events team. Current RKK Ranking: (AMM10) Commodore
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.30 11:13:00 - [54] Originally by: Seppel da'FinNI just one thing to say.. you are actually complaining that Serpentis fight for their hometurf? you gotta be kiddin. You're kidding, right? Originally by: Aikowan Actually its nice to see that the NPC Factions start to defend their places, if you put POS in a system with their Shipyard. Aikowan errrr, so, like, when will ORE (as it is THEIR sovereignty) be coming to remove the shipyard? Haven't really thought about that one, huh? Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Nafri	Posted - 2006.01.30 12:09:00 - [55] Aurora shouldnt interact with normal warfare in Eve. Always said that, it ruins Players funs, if I want a good fight against people who wont loose anything when I kill em I go to Sisi and blow some stuff on FFA. People have to work for their ships, dont make em wasting them. Its not the first of the events which are kinda stupid, NORAD had to face a similar situation before, where Serpentis and Bob attacked them together
Senjii	Posted - 2006.01.30 12:10:00 - [56] On a sidenote: Is it true that Shrike lost his Revelation to the serps yday?
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.30 12:11:00 - [57] Originally by: Senjii On a sidenote: Is it true that Shrike lost his Revelation to the serps yday? Yes, Shrike lost a ship and water is wet. What else is new in EVE? - CCP - New Documentation Please??
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.30 12:13:00 - [58] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: Senjii On a sidenote: Is it true that Shrike lost his Revelation to the serps yday? Yes, Shrike lost a ship and water is wet. What else is new in EVE? LIES! Shrike NEVER DIES. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Zzazzt	Posted - 2006.01.30 12:21:00 - [59] Edited by: Zzazzt on 30/01/2006 12:21:12 Originally by: Ordep Originally by: Fi T'Zeh We get the phat lewt. And provided Serps keep on dropping phat lewt, i say bring it on. They didn¦t. Only fat thing i saw yesterday was my phone bill Lay off the p0rn & get cable ____________________________________________
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.01.30 12:43:00 - [60] Originally by: Foomanshoe I mean, 0.0 events are nice and all, but taking in multiple capital ships, especially motherships against alliance bases? thats pretty questionable. Whats next? in the middle of fleet battles an Aurora Titan will spawn, drop its doomsday and call it an event? Is that supposed to be fun? Have you seen the loot? Most if not all of those capital ships are equipped with officer equipment. -------------
Entilzah Valen	Posted - 2006.01.30 12:49:00 - [61] It's becoming fairly probable by the accounts of what happened that Event team chose the POS as a target in order to do some testing and logging for Dev's to go over.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:05:00 - [62] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Foomanshoe I mean, 0.0 events are nice and all, but taking in multiple capital ships, especially motherships against alliance bases? thats pretty questionable. Whats next? in the middle of fleet battles an Aurora Titan will spawn, drop its doomsday and call it an event? Is that supposed to be fun? Have you seen the loot? Most if not all of those capital ships are equipped with officer equipment. Well, if the gear they were using was actually true to story, they'd have x-type hardeners, not crap tuvans gear. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Lacero Callrisian	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:20:00 - [63] The event in ASCN had similar lag problems. 3 weeks until the new servers right? right?
UndergrounD	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:24:00 - [64] Sounds painful tbh tho if ISD were following the fleet battle theme they would have been better off folowing that theme by travelling x amount of jumps to the target to give, a - the 'enemy' (i.e BoB) time to muster a fleet. b - fighting with what they had and not spawning ships with command lines. props to them for the effort tho, cant wait to see serp POS being put up. -----------------------------------------------
Nifel	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:28:00 - [65] So when can we attack and take over serpentis corp's assets? "We wield swords for the sound of laughter that used to be there long ago." RKK Ranking: (MIN13) Jata
Gan Ning	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:32:00 - [66] Originally by: Dracorimus Would be nice if we could have our turn, we get our stuff blown up by npc's and you get rewards, un-balanced ftw ? You need to stop the whining. The events team were roleplaying Serpentis and always do a damn good job. FYI the last alliance to whine about the events team (CA) never had a event again. So be grateful and give them a break, if you don't want another event, carry on whining.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:36:00 - [67] Originally by: Nifel So when can we attack and take over serpentis corp's assets? /emote has been wondering that about the Mordu's stations for a couple months now... - CCP - New Documentation Please??
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:43:00 - [68] I'm not playing atm and thus wasn't there. Nor do I feel I missed something important. Sure 9+ dreads and a Mothership in pretty lareg fleetbattle outside one of our POS's.. sounds like something one wouldn't want to miss doesn't it ? And carefull readers might even notice that no BoB have complained here directly about how BoB lost an amount of ships that most smaller alliances would need weeks to even replace. But what I personally can't fathom is how event actors meddle in player politics choosing allies left and right and supporting them with unrealistic amounts of hardware and unrealistical pilots. Nor did they show any restraint in using that hardware and skills even when their supposed allies weren't there anymore. And spawning NPC's to replace them ? Now, I like how Oveuir gave these guys some room to show up with the big stuff, and to actually play a significant role. But it has to remain realistic. The serpentis in one fight probably cost BoB more isk in losses then the total of G and FA/VC/IMP efforts in the last couple of weeks did. How can that EVER make sense ? How can any actor be so incredibly shortsighted to think that what he was doing was ok ? When I first got the point that this Serpentis v BoB thing is something we'll see running for some time still. And when I first got the point that that means we get enemies we can't strike back at I thought that it was going to be fun. Sure, it would cost us some hard earned isk of course, as a group. We'd face the inevitable dread losses and lose complete fleets of BS against VC/FA/IMP fleets supported by Serpentis actors in fleetfights that would be fun to be in. Hell putting one or our pos in reinforced mode is fine as well, assuming you actually involve players that we can shoot back at and kill for some real damage . And leaving a single moros back to be killed. Personally, I would have ignored that insult and left its pilot to rot and die of old age before taking that placating piece of crap 'gift'. No, as far as I understand it, I missed nothing good here. Just the usual lack of professionality displayed by CCP once again. I can't blame the event actors, they play within the rules Oveur et all give them. Power to the players !
Pyrotesea	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:43:00 - [69] Edited by: Pyrotesea on 30/01/2006 13:46:24 1st off wow! 2nd OMG! ok now whats up, BOB getting serp luv, apperently some mordus and angel luv down south with MC and gang. where is the love up north with Guristas? (this is not ment to be a flame in any way) if any allience needs help i think FE could use the help of the local NPC's. Really i like to see some Gurista/Caldari capital ships take on our fleet atm. (i am just askign to lose my moros i know) but again looks like you all had some fun, lots of big time jealousy here --------------------------------- What doesn't kill you makes you injured.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:45:00 - [70] Edited by: DB Preacher on 30/01/2006 13:45:45 Originally by: Gan Ning Originally by: Dracorimus Would be nice if we could have our turn, we get our stuff blown up by npc's and you get rewards, un-balanced ftw ? You need to stop the whining. The events team were roleplaying Serpentis and always do a damn good job. FYI the last alliance to whine about the events team (CA) never had a event again. So be grateful and give them a break, if you don't want another event, carry on whining. You should be in corp chat with him Sometimes I don't think half of RKK is happy unless they are grumbling about something :p But yeah I agree completely, the people whining about this event are missing the point of the game. It's all just a bit of fun ;P dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:51:00 - [71] I've got to admit that Rod's post puts the topic in a new light. What if BoB blew up that Nyx? Would it have actually affected things in any way, or would some actor just: "/spawn Nyx" Events like this should be fun and playable, but it should also have some semblence of realism, at least as it relates to the prime fiction of the game. - CCP - New Documentation Please??
Trooper B99	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:52:00 - [72] Originally by: Gan Ning FYI the last alliance to whine about the events team (CA) never had a event again. I still get a wee bit annoyed thinking about that EVENT. I feel we put forward complaints with good reason given by what we saw on our overviews during it, though that might not have been the case according to Keiron after he investigated it. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Gan Ning	Posted - 2006.01.30 13:53:00 - [73] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 30/01/2006 13:45:45 Originally by: Gan Ning Originally by: Dracorimus Would be nice if we could have our turn, we get our stuff blown up by npc's and you get rewards, un-balanced ftw ? You need to stop the whining. The events team were roleplaying Serpentis and always do a damn good job. FYI the last alliance to whine about the events team (CA) never had a event again. So be grateful and give them a break, if you don't want another event, carry on whining. You should be in corp chat with him Sometimes I don't think half of RKK is happy unless they are grumbling about something :p But yeah I agree completely, the people whining about this event are missing the point of the game. It's all just a bit of fun ;P dbp Put him on veldspar duty, that'll sort him out.
Pyrotesea	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:02:00 - [74] btw did any of the moros drop named capital loot? --------------------------------- What doesn't kill you makes you injured.
Echo147	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:02:00 - [75] Originally by: Pyrotesea Edited by: Pyrotesea on 30/01/2006 13:46:24 ok now whats up, BOB getting serp luv, apperently some mordus and angel luv down south with MC and gang. where is the love up north with Guristas? (this is not ment to be a flame in any way) if any allience needs help i think FE could use the help of the local NPC's. Really i like to see some Gurista/Caldari capital ships take on our fleet atm. (i am just askign to lose my moros i know) but again looks like you all had some fun, lots of big time jealousy here We're used to the north getting left out, be it decent ore, complexes or rats (being jammed is so FUN!), so I guess the non-existance of Guristas events is the icing on the cake Someone needs to spank the Aurora team methinks
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:05:00 - [76] Edited by: DB Preacher on 30/01/2006 14:06:41 Originally by: Pyrotesea btw did any of the moros drop named capital loot? 4 x tuvans large reps I believe. Same as the last one we killed. Considering we lost a Dreadnought and a fleet to do it, we weren't making much money on this outing dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Pyrotesea	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:08:00 - [77] --------------------------------- What doesn't kill you makes you injured.
Galavet	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:09:00 - [78] Originally by: Wrayeth Edited by: Wrayeth on 30/01/2006 07:34:24 /me points, laughs, doubles over choking and coughing with tears leaking out the corners of his eyes 'cause he's laughing so hard, then suddenly sobers up as he realizes this could happen to him. EDIT: Galavet, you, Zardock, Rohan, and Lukia still have some killmails you haven't posted on the BoB killboards. Hint. Hint. All of my kill mails that are not being petitioned are posted Mr. one volley. Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
Leilani Solaris	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:12:00 - [79] Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 30/01/2006 07:08:02 Originally by: j0sephine "This is the first time I've heard of the Events Team using NPC's. WTF???" It's the result of the recent event in pf-346 i think (the one which involved MC, Norad, Imp and BoB) ... players complained after how the events were no fun because the event team could at best field couple battleships which of course die quickly to focused fire of typical player fleet. Well, it wasn't just that... more along the lines of Oveur being in local and a little OOC chatter getting funny. We said a few things and then there's a giant black monolith in front of our fleet threatening to "devolve" us. Then when we started *****ing about not being able to blow it up, RAT warped in at long range and then... THIS HAPPENED! I lost my uninsured apoc in that but of course petitioned it and got it back thankfully. http://bapwn.eve-killboard.net/
Jean	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:21:00 - [80] Edited by: Jean on 30/01/2006 14:26:30 DBP please tell you minions to stop crying: * Everyone in the game is experiencing the same lag atm > This cancels out you lag whining * You got some officer l00t > This cancels out most relevant losses * You got a tough fight > Isnt this what every bob member wanted?! I think its pathetic that even bob management is complaining about this event. Bob didnt experience anything extraordinary, the entire eve-universe is experiencing the exact same problems. Bob is always bragging they can handle anything... Well, deal with it! ----------------------------- Specialist in Digital Analogy
Gan Ning	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:30:00 - [81] Originally by: Trooper B99 Originally by: Gan Ning FYI the last alliance to whine about the events team (CA) never had a event again. I still get a wee bit annoyed thinking about that EVENT. I feel we put forward complaints with good reason given by what we saw on our overviews during it, though that might not have been the case according to Keiron after he investigated it. Well if I remeber correctly CA was preparing for a fight with Xetic and Stain that were in VOL, I think it was the same evening when BOB was heading down to GW. When the Angels appeared and attacked CA ships in around HLW, CA pilots got angry. I think around 30 minutes after the event CA proceeded to whine about the Events team on this very forum and accuse them of some sort of conspiracy. That wasn't even half the trouble, I believe the Events team was subjected to a lot of insults during the event. So all i'm saying is a word of advice to the few people that are whining. 'Phat lewt', npcs that can talk back and NPC capital ships dont appear all the time. Cherish them, immerse yourself in the rp event and have fun. I'd sell my balls to see a Nyx in space, let alone have the opportunity to shoot at one, so count yourself lucky! (PS. WTS: My balls)
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:39:00 - [82] Originally by: Jean Edited by: Jean on 30/01/2006 14:29:23 DBP/RB/SM please tell you minions to stop crying: * Everyone in the game is experiencing the same lag atm > This cancels out you lag whining * You got some officer l00t > This cancels out most relevant losses * You got a tough fight > Isnt this what every bob member wanted?! I think its pathetic that even bob management is complaining about this event. Bob didnt experience anything extraordinary, the entire eve-universe is experiencing the exact same problems. Bob is always bragging they can handle anything... Well, deal with it! If you would like to try and censure our pilots, please feel free to take it up with them in-game. We, however, will not, they are free to say whatever they want. Sure, they might make themselves look stupid - but I can see that every day on our forums, so why should we care what you think? Secondly, do you actually have any idea who the leaders of BoB are? hint None of them have whined or complained in this thread. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Bozse	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:41:00 - [83] Edited by: Bozse on 30/01/2006 14:43:58 Originally by: Jean Edited by: Jean on 30/01/2006 14:29:23 DBP/RB/SM please tell you minions to stop crying: * Everyone in the game is experiencing the same lag atm > This cancels out you lag whining * You got some officer l00t > This cancels out most relevant losses * You got a tough fight > Isnt this what every bob member wanted?! I think its pathetic that even bob management is complaining about this event. Bob didnt experience anything extraordinary, the entire eve-universe is experiencing the exact same problems. Bob is always bragging they can handle anything... Well, deal with it! So u'r saying that everyone in game gets killed by invisible fleets atm ? 4x Tuvan's reps won't even cover the dread and if u think that u need to study the market a bit more. In the end we got a tough fight sure, still doesn't take away the fact that some feels that the aurora team is steping over the line by attacking a POS without any supply lines to back it up.
Luc Boye	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:45:00 - [84] I'm not playing atm, but I am sure BoB had fun. However, the only way to make things fair is to: 1.) give someone, say Shrike, possibility to do the same as event team, "/spawn carrier". or 2.) event team is allowed to use only ships that they mined for and bought blueprints for in ISK. Since they, as players are gimped compared to average bob meatshield, they can have the "freeby" by being allowed to "/spawn mining barge" for themselves. Harvester drones have to be bought, tho. How about that?
Ordep	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:46:00 - [85] Originally by: Gan Ning I'd sell my balls to see a Nyx in space, let alone have the opportunity to shoot at one, so count yourself lucky! (PS. WTS: My balls) If u see 1 in space you will be rapped so your balls are worth *******s Other then that we are complaining about the event. All we said was bad timing as the clusters are no good for engagements above the 40 ships in same place. Adding to this the event team launched a crazy number of drones (fighters and ogres II) that even lagged more a lagged system. We are complaining the lost ships, we are not complaining the fact they come to us, but if it is for the good sake of RP they should do things like players must do. This includes activating a cyno field for the dreads ( there was none ), the logistics in such a dread op take time and they done it immediatly. Lag should be to both sides ( we were experiecing warpouts that took 20sec delay, enough for the fighters pwn a BS ), carrier warpouts were immediate. The dreads sieged for almost 2 hours taking heavy firepower from the POS and BoB pilots without refuelling for strontium . Odd things happened and for a good RP enjoyment this kinda of weird stuff should happen Made in Portugal
Rael Anshak	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:46:00 - [86] Edited by: Rael Anshak on 30/01/2006 14:46:13 Originally by: Jean Edited by: Jean on 30/01/2006 14:29:23 DBP/RB/SM please tell you minions to stop crying: * Everyone in the game is experiencing the same lag atm > This cancels out you lag whining * You got some officer l00t > This cancels out most relevant losses * You got a tough fight > Isnt this what every bob member wanted?! I think its pathetic that even bob management is complaining about this event. Bob didnt experience anything extraordinary, the entire eve-universe is experiencing the exact same problems. Bob is always bragging they can handle anything... Well, deal with it! DBP is watching a movie atm so im going to have 2 tear you a new one in his place. So until you've fought 6 dreads and a mothership all drone heavy ships with 21k people online at a POS you can stfu. Most bob members, at least myself, would welcome the fight from serp, at least when they bring it to us they actually fight unlike other factions we've faced. My complaints at least are that they shot at our POS, when serp have no assets we can attack. I wna know when we're going to be able to take some of the stations in fountain. I think Aurora should wait till the new server comes in before they bring this kind of fight to player alliances. Or at least bring the engagement away from a POS. Im sure with proper notice as is expected for an event, and a place set, bob would have mustered a fleet to go head to head with serp. We were able to rally 100+ pilots in a few minutes without notice. How many other alliances can say that? We just werent able to get nearly as many to a2v6 because of the lag at jump ins. Regardless of the outcome and the forum ***ing that day reminded me why im proud 2 be bob. Ive heard people like VC and FA say they dont plan on defending their POSes and other alliances who just put them up to take a station. But when BoB assets are attacked, even by extreme forces. We put everything we have into defending them. BoB for the mother ***** win. oh and DBP, RB, and SM are sexah. ________ Hi
Trooper B99	Posted - 2006.01.30 14:51:00 - [87] Originally by: Gan Ning I think around 30 minutes after the event CA proceeded to whine about the Events team on this very forum and accuse them of some sort of conspiracy. That wasn't even half the trouble, I believe the Events team was subjected to a lot of insults during the event. grins Oh I know what happened as well as what happened afterwards, I was there for the whole show, check the posted local logs further down the page link. Personally, I know exactly what I saw on my overview when i had the EVENT BS's locked both in KLMT and in HLW and as I said, we felt we had legitimate complaints. But thats quite a while ago. But yeah, as you say, EVENT's are good fun to be in and should be cherished. However on the other side, previously they were all voluntary to participate in as opposed having a large "forced" impact so I think both EVENT teams and players are still feeling their way through these. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Gan Ning	Posted - 2006.01.30 15:23:00 - [88] Originally by: Ordep Edited by: Ordep on 30/01/2006 14:51:54 Edited by: Ordep on 30/01/2006 14:49:37 Edited by: Ordep on 30/01/2006 14:48:15 Originally by: Gan Ning I'd sell my balls to see a Nyx in space, let alone have the opportunity to shoot at one, so count yourself lucky! (PS. WTS: My balls) If u see 1 in space you will be rapped so your balls are worth *******s That sounds like hostility Ordep, or possibly bitterness. Since i'm in a good mood i'll let that comment slide, but watch your tone.
Nafri	Posted - 2006.01.30 15:31:00 - [89] smacktastic here today
Kmacross	Posted - 2006.01.30 15:32:00 - [90] Edited by: Kmacross on 30/01/2006 15:33:21 "My fleet inside 4c- is decimated but finally starts logging on, we get a few guys back together and go back in against Norad. This time we encounter no lag and simply decimate norad for a couple of support losses " Battleships are Support losses? btw norad forces had also lag ;)
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.30 15:35:00 - [91] I wasnt involved in this particular event, but having good and bad experiences from previous events, it is important for the events team to plan events with the co operation with the players rather than dispite of them.. i would be interested to know if there is any official way of contacting the events team? --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA We do not go hunting, cuz hunting infers the possibility of failure.. We go killing...
Jean	Posted - 2006.01.30 15:35:00 - [92] Originally by: Bozse Edited by: Bozse on 30/01/2006 14:43:58 Originally by: Jean Edited by: Jean on 30/01/2006 14:29:23 DBP/RB/SM please tell you minions to stop crying: * Everyone in the game is experiencing the same lag atm > This cancels out you lag whining * You got some officer l00t > This cancels out most relevant losses * You got a tough fight > Isnt this what every bob member wanted?! I think its pathetic that even bob management is complaining about this event. Bob didnt experience anything extraordinary, the entire eve-universe is experiencing the exact same problems. Bob is always bragging they can handle anything... Well, deal with it! So u'r saying that everyone in game gets killed by invisible fleets atm ? Yes Quote: 4x Tuvan's reps won't even cover the dread and if u think that u need to study the market a bit more. Maybe bob should've held back with this much danger involved. Ill say it one more time: Dont use it, if u cant afford to lose it! Quote: In the end we got a tough fight sure, still doesn't take away the fact that some feels that the aurora team is steping over the line by attacking a POS without any supply lines to back it up. Aurora has to compensate for the fact that it isnt a large pvp alliance like bob. They dont have the numbers/skills/resources that a full-blown pvpalliance has. They have limited roleplayers available and they are trying to bring U GUYZ fun! ----------------------------- Specialist in Digital Analogy
Ribbo	Posted - 2006.01.30 15:38:00 - [93] Originally by: Jean Edited by: Jean on 30/01/2006 14:38:28 DBP/RB/SM/DIA please tell you minions to stop crying: * Everyone in the game is experiencing the same lag atm > This cancels out you lag whining * You got some officer l00t > This cancels out most relevant losses * You got a tough fight > Isnt this what every bob member wanted?! I think its pathetic that even bob management is complaining about this event. Bob didnt experience anything extraordinary, the entire eve-universe is experiencing the exact same problems. Bob is always bragging they can handle anything... Well, deal with it! thx4tehlaughbob oh god, not you again. Jean is the same pilot who flew 30odd jumps into a system we had lit up the map. Him and his 4 AF/Intie buddies then proceeded to scan us down to a moon, they then warped to us and suicided themselves against a bob bs/hac fleet that was busy shooting at a downed pos, for words of many that could be heard in the laughter than followed was "how" "stupid" "is" "he" eddz, reel your mouse in. he really doesnt know how to play big boys eve. Ribbo - fanboi'ing eve-celebrities the world over.
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.01.30 15:46:00 - [94] "Battleships are Support losses? " "This time we encounter no lag and simply decimate norad for a couple of support losses" "this time" being encounter ~22:30 eve time in 4c- ... as opposed to the one ~21:30 which was when people got stuck on the jump in ^^
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.30 15:49:00 - [95] Edited by: DB Preacher on 30/01/2006 15:55:20 Originally by: Kmacross Edited by: Kmacross on 30/01/2006 15:33:21 "My fleet inside 4c- is decimated but finally starts logging on, we get a few guys back together and go back in against Norad. This time we encounter no lag and simply decimate norad for a couple of support losses " Battleships are Support losses? btw norad forces had also lag ;) hmm, did we lose a bs from that second engagement at the gate? None were reported... only a cruiser and a frigate. I have no doubts you had lag when we jumped in initially but you were able to fire. None of my pilots loaded at all, we just died. Jean: get out of this thread thanks, not interested in any of your smak. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.

Zhuge Liang	Posted - 2006.01.30 15:55:00 - [96] Keep it friendly and on topic please. forum rules \| [email protected].___. {O,o} /)__) -"-"- O rly?

Kmacross	Posted - 2006.01.30 16:00:00 - [97] Edited by: Kmacross on 30/01/2006 16:06:06 Edited by: Kmacross on 30/01/2006 16:04:24 "This time we encounter no lag and simply decimate norad for a couple of support losses" "this time" being encounter ~22:30 eve time in 4c- ... as opposed to the one ~21:30 which was when people got stuck on the jump in ^^ This time u outnummberd us again ;), but it is okay.I lost my geddon, but i was proud to be in battle against u guys :).I have a lot of experience now with bob, and bob comes only if they heavly outnummber the enemy :).We knew the gate was a trap, but norad dont run.We better had setup bubbles at the bf gate, and then u guys had lost a lot more :) ( in the first encounter).
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.01.30 16:03:00 - [98] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: SpaceDrake Storyteller The events team then proceeded to spawn NPCs right in the middle of the BoB fleet as they were fighting the Nyx and the Moroses. This is the first time I've heard of the Events Team using NPC's. WTF??? Seen em used several times by Events. --------------------------------------------------------------- Warning: above post may contain traces of sarcasm.
SirMolle	Posted - 2006.01.30 16:12:00 - [99] I have one more thing to add to all of this; SERPENTIS! GET OFF OUR LAND. Your asses are ours. That is all.
NoNameNewbie	Posted - 2006.01.30 16:19:00 - [100] 4 pages of bob whining .. lol every other ally whine-thread would have been close after page 2, yey for mods ... besides that STFU about events ... at least u get some, other ppl got 1 event in like 2 years and werent whining even if it was laggy ...
Dezra	Posted - 2006.01.30 16:26:00 - [101] You bob fellows sure are a hoot, i remember molle said something about serpentis needing to bring a bigger fleet next time they came? I guees they did, you couldnt cope, sux to be you i guess
Fred0	Posted - 2006.01.30 16:27:00 - [102] wow, Molle and dbp for the win in this thread. First and last time I'm gonna say that I guess
Galavet	Posted - 2006.01.30 16:46:00 - [103] Originally by: Jean How the mighty have fallen.. Tsss! Ironic coming from a KIA member. Current RKK Ranking: (MIN100) CEO
SirMolle	Posted - 2006.01.30 16:49:00 - [104] Actually, I will add one more thing. For any Evolution pilot that winges on here about anything of this. SHAME ON YOU. I will have your balls.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.30 16:55:00 - [105] Originally by: Dezra You bob fellows sure are a hoot, i remember molle said something about serpentis needing to bring a bigger fleet next time they came? I guees they did, you couldnt cope, sux to be you i guess /me looks at A2 pos > yep, still standing. So like, that's 3 alliances and an npc faction that tried to take down an armed and managed pos (heh) and failed. What was that about "coping"? Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Falhofnir	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:02:00 - [106] hello, i'm here to whine about yesterday's event. Flying by the nyx and pew pewing at him was a total boring thing to do. capital ships suck, pos warfare isn't fun, I was totally not impressed by 6 moros + 1 nyx warping in together, I wasn't impressed by molle's revelation popping in 30 seconds either, all in all, eve sucks. now bring it molle.
Fi T'Zeh	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:13:00 - [107] O RLY .... Real men use blasters
Dracorimus	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:13:00 - [108] Originally by: Falhofnir hello, i'm here to whine about yesterday's event. Flying by the nyx and pew pewing at him was a total boring thing to do. capital ships suck, pos warfare isn't fun, I was totally not impressed by 6 moros + 1 nyx warping in together, I wasn't impressed by molle's revelation popping in 30 seconds either, all in all, eve sucks. now bring it molle. Your balls are now his LOL - Comin' at ya!
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:21:00 - [109] Originally by: Rod Blaine And carefull readers might even notice that no BoB have complained here directly about how BoB lost an amount of ships that most smaller alliances would need weeks to even replace. The serpentis in one fight probably cost BoB more isk in losses then the total of G and FA/VC/IMP efforts in the last couple of weeks did. Eeeerm did i miss anyhting, but according to your kilb u lost about 10 bs or so and couple of support and theres a rumour of a downed dread. Is that all or was there more destroyed??? -G- Pink Power Darko1107 > i'd rather be fat tbh :P
NoNameNewbie	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:23:00 - [110] Originally by: Falhofnir hello, i'm here to whine about yesterday's event. Flying by the nyx and pew pewing at him was a total boring thing to do. capital ships suck, pos warfare isn't fun, I was totally not impressed by 6 moros + 1 nyx warping in together, I wasn't impressed by molle's revelation popping in 30 seconds either, all in all, eve sucks. now bring it molle. actually .. best bob post in this thread ;) hands teh "i win button" to falhofnir ... yes i am bored ...
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:30:00 - [111] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Rod Blaine And carefull readers might even notice that no BoB have complained here directly about how BoB lost an amount of ships that most smaller alliances would need weeks to even replace. The serpentis in one fight probably cost BoB more isk in losses then the total of G and FA/VC/IMP efforts in the last couple of weeks did. Eeeerm did i miss anyhting, but according to your kilb u lost about 10 bs or so and couple of support and theres a rumour of a downed dread. Is that all or was there more destroyed??? Woodie, do you really think 10bs, some support and a dread will even come close to denting our finances and combat power? What Rod is saying, that the serps and their amazing powers of spawn, killed more of our ships and did more damage to us in one day, than any of those other alliances have done in weeks. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:36:00 - [112] Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 30/01/2006 17:37:54 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Rod Blaine And carefull readers might even notice that no BoB have complained here directly about how BoB lost an amount of ships that most smaller alliances would need weeks to even replace. The serpentis in one fight probably cost BoB more isk in losses then the total of G and FA/VC/IMP efforts in the last couple of weeks did. Eeeerm did i miss anyhting, but according to your kilb u lost about 10 bs or so and couple of support and theres a rumour of a downed dread. Is that all or was there more destroyed??? Woodie, do you really think 10bs, some support and a dread will even come close to denting our finances and combat power? What Rod is saying, that the serps and their amazing powers of spawn, killed more of our ships and did more damage to us in one day, than any of those other alliances have done in weeks. but thats simply not true regarding to the last weeks. /emote reminds u of the 2 downed bob dreads in JU for example oh and ofc it wont even come close to denting you. its just the same amount when losing a fleetbattle in which a dread was included. nothing more. -G- Pink Power Darko1107 > i'd rather be fat tbh :P
Earthan	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:37:00 - [113] Originally by: Galavet Edited by: Galavet on 30/01/2006 06:55:45 Originally by: Seleene Okay, I'll ask because I'm at work and dying to know: I was looking at the BoB Killboard this morning and saw that the Serpentis showed up in 4C-B7X last night with at least 3 Moros Dreads and a frakin' NYX! Looks like one hell of a fight. Then in A2V6-6, BoB took down a Serp Moros and it looks like another major battle took place with the same force. This Serp thing against BoB seems to be shaping up into something much more than the average "one-shot" events of the past. The MC has been approached as part of this storyline and a couple others as well. I've also heard a lot about the Sansha vs. Angels/ASCN conflict going on in the south. That seems to be shaping up as well into something long-term. What else is going on out there? Is it time to applaud the Events Team for finally finding some resolve and sticking it to the players a bit? How much more of this can we expect to see in the future? I'd love to hear comments from everyone involved as to what your experiences have been over the past month or so. This is the quick version of what happend today, I can give you the details later. Serps appear out of thin air with Multiple captial ships (mothership 6 dreads) and make a move onto A2V6. Molle is able to get a gang of about 45 to 50 together to counter/stall the attack. A group of about 50 BoB move up from Delve and run into a G/NORAD fleet (80ish) in 4C who in our guess were heading to join the serps in A2 for some fun. Some dancing was done and both fleets end up one jump outside of 4C. Next the Lag Monster showed up. We get word of 10 NORAD ships sitting in 4C covering the gate back in, our scout failed to mention the Lag Monster had set up camp with them, we suspect he was flying a Raven. 50 plus BoB BS and TechII ships Jump into 10 NORAD Dominix and Ravens. Loading.. Loading.. Loading.. Loading.. Loading.. ffs we staggered our jumps in groups of 15 over 30 seconds apart... Loading.. Loading.. Emergency Warps back to the gate.. No enemys to be seen. Dead. The game could not handle a 50V10 gank and froze on us. The 10 proceeded to BBQ everyone on emergency warps and G support came through and added to the Lag. I stormed off cursing loudly, I think G went home about this same time. Later I hear our few guys attacking a Serp Capital fleet and downing one moros, as the ships continued to spawn on top of their heads. Didnt sound to pretty. Listen I love events and all, but maybe put off brining 2 alliances and a capital ship fleet until after the server upgrades are done. Pretty Please? Your scouts from what ihave read on NORAD forums failed to meantion much more then the lag laos the size of Norad fleet. And Galavet and DB Preacher get real, the lag doesnt hit only poor BOBs it hits NORAD as well.Ofc jumps in are more affected but still. ******** "...And thereÆs even some evil mothers Well theyÆre gonna tell you that everything is just dirt ...And that, yÆknow, children are the only ones who blush!And that,life is just to die..."
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:43:00 - [114] Edited by: DB Preacher on 30/01/2006 17:43:41 Originally by: Earthan Your scouts from what ihave read on NORAD forums failed to meantion much more then the lag also the size of Norad fleet. And Galavet and DB Preacher get real, the lag doesnt hit only poor BOBs it hits NORAD as well.Ofc jumps in are more affected but still. I'm not going to argue with you Earthan, I'm telling you what happened. We didn't encounter lag when we jumped in. Our clients simply froze completely. Eventually some people loaded and they were in emergency warp ss. Some people CTD'd and the rest died. You can say all you want Earthan but if you think I can lose 8 BS when jumping ~50 into ~10 and get no kills at the gate (considering you know how good we are from personal experience) then I just guess we will have to disagree on that point. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Heidveig	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:46:00 - [115] Originally by: Kmacross Edited by: Kmacross on 30/01/2006 16:06:06 Edited by: Kmacross on 30/01/2006 16:04:24 "This time we encounter no lag and simply decimate norad for a couple of support losses" "this time" being encounter ~22:30 eve time in 4c- ... as opposed to the one ~21:30 which was when people got stuck on the jump in ^^ This time u outnummberd us again ;), but it is okay.I lost my geddon, but i was proud to be in battle against u guys :).I have a lot of experience now with bob, and bob comes only if they heavly outnummber the enemy :).We knew the gate was a trap, but norad dont run.We better had setup bubbles at the bf gate, and then u guys had lost a lot more :) ( in the first encounter). hahahahahahahaha sorry cant stop laughing hahahahahahaha I have more experience fighting Norad then you do BoB and i'll admit some of you might have balls but the rest is just utter crap and only fights when severly outnumbering us. I got challanged to a 1v1 by one of you, who even ran when he realized he would lose.... how honorable. Shivaja and co keep up the good fun in 4c-
Kryztal	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:47:00 - [116] arg wtf ^^ my alt Black Nova Corp
Kaarh Tar	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:52:00 - [117] Edited by: Kaarh Tar on 30/01/2006 17:52:38
Earthan	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:54:00 - [118] Edited by: Earthan on 30/01/2006 17:55:16 Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 30/01/2006 17:43:41 Originally by: Earthan Your scouts from what ihave read on NORAD forums failed to meantion much more then the lag also the size of Norad fleet. And Galavet and DB Preacher get real, the lag doesnt hit only poor BOBs it hits NORAD as well.Ofc jumps in are more affected but still. I'm not going to argue with you Earthan, I'm telling you what happened. We didn't encounter lag when we jumped in. Our clients simply froze completely. Eventually some people loaded and they were in emergency warp ss. Some people CTD'd and the rest died. You can say all you want Earthan but if you think I can lose 8 BS when jumping ~50 into ~10 and get no kills at the gate (considering you know how good we are from personal experience) then I just guess we will have to disagree on that point. dbp I know you are good , even very good.I will even admit usually we take higher losses in fights then you. But from what i have read on Norad forums the Norad fleet wasnt aaround 10 but around 30. ******** "...And thereÆs even some evil mothers Well theyÆre gonna tell you that everything is just dirt ...And that, yÆknow, children are the only ones who blush!And that,life is just to die..."
Earthan	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:57:00 - [119] Originally by: Heidveig Originally by: Kmacross Edited by: Kmacross on 30/01/2006 16:06:06 Edited by: Kmacross on 30/01/2006 16:04:24 "This time we encounter no lag and simply decimate norad for a couple of support losses" "this time" being encounter ~22:30 eve time in 4c- ... as opposed to the one ~21:30 which was when people got stuck on the jump in ^^ This time u outnummberd us again ;), but it is okay.I lost my geddon, but i was proud to be in battle against u guys :).I have a lot of experience now with bob, and bob comes only if they heavly outnummber the enemy :).We knew the gate was a trap, but norad dont run.We better had setup bubbles at the bf gate, and then u guys had lost a lot more :) ( in the first encounter). hahahahahahahaha sorry cant stop laughing hahahahahahaha I have more experience fighting Norad then you do BoB and i'll admit some of you might have balls but the rest is just utter crap and only fights when severly outnumbering us. I got challanged to a 1v1 by one of you, who even ran when he realized he would lose.... how honorable. Shivaja and co keep up the good fun in 4c- Lol thats funny i am 100 % persuaded its other way around.ITs Bob that only fights when its outnumbering us.And i am pretty sure from personal exp.You are good very good but damn boring and catious. ******** "...And thereÆs even some evil mothers Well theyÆre gonna tell you that everything is just dirt ...And that, yÆknow, children are the only ones who blush!And that,life is just to die..."
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.30 17:59:00 - [120] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 30/01/2006 17:37:54 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Rod Blaine And carefull readers might even notice that no BoB have complained here directly about how BoB lost an amount of ships that most smaller alliances would need weeks to even replace. The serpentis in one fight probably cost BoB more isk in losses then the total of G and FA/VC/IMP efforts in the last couple of weeks did. Eeeerm did i miss anyhting, but according to your kilb u lost about 10 bs or so and couple of support and theres a rumour of a downed dread. Is that all or was there more destroyed??? Woodie, do you really think 10bs, some support and a dread will even come close to denting our finances and combat power? What Rod is saying, that the serps and their amazing powers of spawn, killed more of our ships and did more damage to us in one day, than any of those other alliances have done in weeks. but thats simply not true regarding to the last weeks. /emote reminds u of the 2 downed bob dreads in JU for example oh and ofc it wont even come close to denting you. its just the same amount when losing a fleetbattle in which a dread was included. nothing more. Sure, I'll give u the 2 dreads (both of which have been returned), but otherwise? nah. Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Dracorimus	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:05:00 - [121] Earthan "Lol thats funny i am 100 % persuaded its other way around.ITs Bob that only fights when its outnumbering us.And i am pretty sure from personal exp.You are good very good but damn boring and catious." Now THAT is funny Oh dear lol - Comin' at ya!
Earthan	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:05:00 - [122] Edited by: Earthan on 30/01/2006 18:07:09 Edited by: Earthan on 30/01/2006 18:06:43 Edited by: Earthan on 30/01/2006 18:05:40 Facts: Last times i rember was one night there was 15 bobs in 4c , 25 norad around bf-sdp and 15 bobs before norad gang, we were in between. Bob didnt engage until we retreated. LAst bigger fight i remmber against bob was when we had around 15 ships in gang ( only 3 bs).For ages nothjing happned bobs were hiding in station in 4c .Until they assembled afleet of abit more only in numbers but much superior firepower.( more bs all other tech2 ships , hac , afs ,inties) while we had mostly tech 1 cruisers. So only then you came after us and finally we engaged , and sustained hvy losses , while you got soem light losses. Im not arguing you are great pvpers, but your style is uaully very catious and boring ******** "...And thereÆs even some evil mothers Well theyÆre gonna tell you that everything is just dirt ...And that, yÆknow, children are the only ones who blush!And that,life is just to die..."
Earthan	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:09:00 - [123] Again maybe its not such an offence for me to say you dont engage until outnumbering/outgunining enemy.I mean its normal wise rule of fighting. But saying its us who do this with our style of fighting is purely laughable ******** "...And thereÆs even some evil mothers Well theyÆre gonna tell you that everything is just dirt ...And that, yÆknow, children are the only ones who blush!And that,life is just to die..."
Dracorimus	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:13:00 - [124] Where all about risk and fun, why u think we jump in on everyone ALWAYS, whatever the odds , discounting all the unbelievable lag we experience I can assure you it is no way boring or cautious. We go in, if we die, we go grab another ship, whatever ship, frigate, cruiser whatever we can and carry on fighting regardless.. - Comin' at ya!
Earthan	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:15:00 - [125] Edited by: Earthan on 30/01/2006 18:15:11 Quote: Where all about risk and fun, why u think we jump in on everyone ALWAYS You dont. Read my reply above the one starting with facts. I have been there , i ahve seen it. ******** "...And thereÆs even some evil mothers Well theyÆre gonna tell you that everything is just dirt ...And that, yÆknow, children are the only ones who blush!And that,life is just to die..."
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:16:00 - [126] Edited by: DB Preacher on 30/01/2006 18:16:16 I don't really see what historical battles between NORAD and BOB have to do with the event last night. 30 ships? I'll take your word for it... I never saw any at all nor did any of BoB. If you think 30 norad ships can take 50 of BoB's finest in a straight fight without lag then kudos to you. I look forward to the next time we are in that situation and you own the floor with us earthan. Now, back on track please. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Earthan	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:20:00 - [127] Edited by: Earthan on 30/01/2006 18:21:41 There wasnt a BOB/NORAD historical battle to speak about. And no with your superior equipement and exp even evenly matched we usually take heavier losses. But i admit i got **ed by the "10 norads" remarks and " easy meat". We werent so little and we werent such easy meat.Lag helped us alot ofc but we had lag to... ****** "...And thereÆs even some evil mothers Well theyÆre gonna tell you that everything is just dirt ...And that, yÆknow, children are the only ones who blush!And that,life is just to die..."
Sabaoth	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:20:00 - [128] Ok I thought it would be a good idea to try and answer a few of the questions and issues raised here just so things donÆt get out of hand. Please note I will NOT be answering all questions as I donÆt have time and some of the issues raised have been already answered in this thread: Click Here Some of you have a good grasp of what the Serpentis is trying to achieve and others well they clearly donÆt see this as a Role-Play event. There is no reason for the Serpentis not to attack the BoB POS, they obviously have some sort of claim to that system to warrant them building a shipyard. Some people think that the ships/actors were totally overpowered, this is quite hard to determine because there are many factors which can contribute to this idea such as lag, fighters being perhaps overpowered, elite modules, SuperÆd characters. Now I am not going to say if they were over powered or not. We aim to give everyone a chance but I can tell you that this is being looked into. Sure we want to give you a run for your money but we donÆt want to slaughter you, the main reason as said before for us using overpowered setups is down to numbers as we can only field so many actors at any one time. This isnÆt the first time we have used NPCÆs in an event but it is the first time that Aurora has been able to spawn the NPCÆs our selves for events. Before only CCP could do this and it usually took even longer for an event to get organised and executed because of this. You can expect to see more NPCÆs supporting Serpentis & any other faction that you may come across after all these are powerful mega Corporations. For anyone who thinks BoB is being favoured hereà think again. BoB they are involved in this Arc because of their location which I covered in the thread I listed above. I would also like to add that other Alliance(s) and Corporation(s) residing in NPC sovereignty are not safe! It may take a while for the other Arcs to get off the ground due to lack of staff but we will keep providing rich content to everyone! Some players have complained that the risk involved in the event was too high. The risk in this event was variable and depended on player interaction. If BoB players had decided not to engage, the only action would have been putting the POS into reinforced mode. If, on the other hand, BoB attacked then they would have an opportunity to destroy the capital ships. It is a fine line drawing risk vs. reward and we will take your concerns under advisement. While it is true that we do not build our ships, we do offer appropriate rewards for the risks players take. Concerns about the Serpentis Fleet spawning suddenly and without regard to game mechanics can be answered by looking at the environment of the fight. A large Serpentis shipyard exists in the system, and the fleet had been positioned previously before the fight. That is why there was no cynosural field before the capital ships appeared. Some players have aired concerns about the Serpentis attacking multiple POS and having a significant impact on their sovereignty or POS operations. Aurora is aware of these concerns and any attack against a POS is looked at carefully. Taking into account the Serpentis shipyard in a2v6-6 and the future progression of the story, attacking this POS was within event guidelines. I think thatÆs as much as I can remember from reading over this thread only once briefly. - Regards -------------- Sabaoth Aurora Captain The Aurora Project
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:23:00 - [129] Originally by: Sabaoth Ok I thought it would be a good idea to try and answer a few of the questions and issues raised here just so things donÆt get out of hand. Please note I will NOT be answering all questions as I donÆt have time and some of the issues raised have been already answered in this thread: Click Here Some of you have a good grasp of what the Serpentis is trying to achieve and others well they clearly donÆt see this as a Role-Play event. There is no reason for the Serpentis not to attack the BoB POS, they obviously have some sort of claim to that system to warrant them building a shipyard. Some people think that the ships/actors were totally overpowered, this is quite hard to determine because there are many factors which can contribute to this idea such as lag, fighters being perhaps overpowered, elite modules, SuperÆd characters. Now I am not going to say if they were over powered or not. We aim to give everyone a chance but I can tell you that this is being looked into. Sure we want to give you a run for your money but we donÆt want to slaughter you, the main reason as said before for us using overpowered setups is down to numbers as we can only field so many actors at any one time. This isnÆt the first time we have used NPCÆs in an event but it is the first time that Aurora has been able to spawn the NPCÆs our selves for events. Before only CCP could do this and it usually took even longer for an event to get organised and executed because of this. You can expect to see more NPCÆs supporting Serpentis & any other faction that you may come across after all these are powerful mega Corporations. For anyone who thinks BoB is being favoured hereà think again. BoB they are involved in this Arc because of their location which I covered in the thread I listed above. I would also like to add that other Alliance(s) and Corporation(s) residing in NPC sovereignty are not safe! It may take a while for the other Arcs to get off the ground due to lack of staff but we will keep providing rich content to everyone! Some players have complained that the risk involved in the event was too high. The risk in this event was variable and depended on player interaction. If BoB players had decided not to engage, the only action would have been putting the POS into reinforced mode. If, on the other hand, BoB attacked then they would have an opportunity to destroy the capital ships. It is a fine line drawing risk vs. reward and we will take your concerns under advisement. While it is true that we do not build our ships, we do offer appropriate rewards for the risks players take. Concerns about the Serpentis Fleet spawning suddenly and without regard to game mechanics can be answered by looking at the environment of the fight. A large Serpentis shipyard exists in the system, and the fleet had been positioned previously before the fight. That is why there was no cynosural field before the capital ships appeared. Some players have aired concerns about the Serpentis attacking multiple POS and having a significant impact on their sovereignty or POS operations. Aurora is aware of these concerns and any attack against a POS is looked at carefully. Taking into account the Serpentis shipyard in a2v6-6 and the future progression of the story, attacking this POS was within event guidelines. I think thatÆs as much as I can remember from reading over this thread only once briefly, IÆm sure there are other questions but I doubt I will answer them unless I feel they are important. Please do not attempt to twist my words to start a flame war as your attempts will be ignored and I will stop answering all questions on the forums as a result. - Regards For The Win Originally by: Thomas Jefferson A society that will trade a little liberty for a little security will lose both and deserve neither.
Acwron	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:30:00 - [130] Edited by: Acwron on 30/01/2006 18:33:59 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Rod Blaine And carefull readers might even notice that no BoB have complained here directly about how BoB lost an amount of ships that most smaller alliances would need weeks to even replace. The serpentis in one fight probably cost BoB more isk in losses then the total of G and FA/VC/IMP efforts in the last couple of weeks did. Eeeerm did i miss anyhting, but according to your kilb u lost about 10 bs or so and couple of support and theres a rumour of a downed dread. Is that all or was there more destroyed??? Woodie, do you really think 10bs, some support and a dread will even come close to denting our finances and combat power? What Rod is saying, that the serps and their amazing powers of spawn, killed more of our ships and did more damage to us in one day, than any of those other alliances have done in weeks. Well actually Diana G didn't move against BoB since the time you were in Iron space (except for the little serp event in YZ-). So what what Rod was saying could be true though his way of measuring is quite questionable (of course we didn't do damage when we didn't even go there). Problem is Ryan did. The six BS downed by serpentis and the dread (thats what your killboard shows so it's a valid question by woody) come pretty close to the amount of BoB BS/HACs and the faction fitted machariel he killed. (and that's not 10b more like 2-4b) But still I fail to see how this is connected with the event anyway. Other quite interesting "facts" in this thread is the supposed short notice you had (minutes yeah right). Around 16 EVE time about 20-25 Evol already moved to A2V6 in order to deploy more guns at the POS. You knew about the event already on Saturday probably earlier. As for Bob not having the option to fight G. Well. We exposed yourselfs for about 15 minutes in 4C- and more than half an hour in Bf-. And in Bf- dbp fleet was just 1-3 BS and about 10 support short while having 10 BS and 10 support ready to jump in from 5W-. We even streched out the fleet and still you would not engage. I've still no idea why. @Dracorimus: yeah right Given the lag (the full fleet had emergency when jumping into 4C-) jumping into a 10 bubbles camp in A2V6 was not an option. That kind of camp is like saying: "Screw you guys we just want kills not a fight.". That the fleet in 4C- only attacked to kill 3 of our guys who laged out while jumping to Bf- only emphasis this impression. Ok guys we got the message. When the serpentis finally did show up (after 2 hours waiting) G already had decided the 3rd time to call it a night given the lag and that it was already quite late for a sunday evening. Normally I wouldn't bother to post but the spinning and general bull**** is this thread is astonishing. Normal one can expect better posts from from you Diana. PS: It was an great effort by ISD to get these events going though given the server performance it didn't play out as good as it could have been.
TWD	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:37:00 - [131] Originally by: Earthan Edited by: Earthan on 30/01/2006 18:15:11 Quote: Where all about risk and fun, why u think we jump in on everyone ALWAYS You dont. Read my reply above the one starting with facts. I have been there , i ahve seen it. We have commanders with different styles. In every (big) fight there are tons of factors. You can try to eliminate all unknown factors but there will always be some unpredictable ones. This also depends on the knowledge of the FC and whoever is assisting. That is where the gambling part is. Some fleet commanders like to gamble more than others. Another thing is that its still a game many people play for their amusement. Sometimes you give a little for the sake of action. But seriously though, we've engaged our enemy's many times with lesser numbers and they know it.

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:48:00 - [132] Originally by: Earthan Again maybe its not such an offence for me to say you dont engage until outnumbering/outgunining enemy.I mean its normal wise rule of fighting. But saying its us who do this with our style of fighting is purely laughable Stop trying to derail this thread. --- forum rules \| [email protected] I ♥ You.... ¬ Shepherd of the [23]

Earthan	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:55:00 - [133] Ok i wont post anyome i have said waht i wanted. If somebody insults my alliance and posts untrue facts i wont stand idle. ******** "...And thereÆs even some evil mothers Well theyÆre gonna tell you that everything is just dirt ...And that, yÆknow, children are the only ones who blush!And that,life is just to die..."
TWD	Posted - 2006.01.30 18:57:00 - [134] Edited by: TWD on 30/01/2006 18:57:50 Originally by: Cmd woodlouse Errrm, Ryan Routine alone? Cmon Diana, check ur kb and repeat what ur saying Ryan is a pretty good pvper, and should thank him for training some of our players. Although we made 6x that (what we lost in total) in XZH though. Unfortunately when adding a few mails missing on our killboard, the score is no longer in our favor
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.30 19:11:00 - [135] Edited by: DB Preacher on 30/01/2006 19:11:46 Originally by: Acwron As for Bob not having the option to fight G. Well. We exposed yourselfs for about 15 minutes in 4C- and more than half an hour in Bf-. And in Bf- dbp fleet was just 1-3 BS and about 10 support short while having 10 BS and 10 support ready to jump in from 5W-. We even streched out the fleet and still you would not engage. I've still no idea why. In 4c- initially my job was to get to a2v6, I asked whether I should engage and the consensus was to get there in one piece and mess around with you as long as possible. No worries, we jumped you at the gate as you left and got a couple of support kills for a bit of fun and made you hold off reaching a2v6 for a bit longer. In BF- we finally decided to attack because it looked like you had decided to not hit a2v6 but then I got the info that NORAD had a tiny fleet just waiting to be ganked next door sitting on the gate with bubbles out. At the same point, our support fleet had arrived near 5wae just to hear that the serps had arrived so I sent them back to deal with that. Having a lag-fest scrap with G wasn't a consideration for me last night, you came to own our pos in a2v6 alongside the Serps. My job was to stop you reaching a2v6 anyway I could :p If you were bored waiting, you knew where a2v6 was. Not my fault your fc's decided against moving on it. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.01.30 19:19:00 - [136] Originally by: TWD Unfortunately when adding a few mails missing on our killboard, the score is no longer in our favor Does this mean we finally made up for the loss of jurushys uberfitted dread? \o/ -G- Pink Power Darko1107 > i'd rather be fat tbh :P
Mustafa Ken'Yova	Posted - 2006.01.30 19:22:00 - [137] Originally by: Kinsy Edited by: Kinsy on 30/01/2006 19:11:24 Monty Burns. Hands rub. excellent... Feel sorry for you about the lag, though, but its pretty fair to say we've all been on the recieving end at some point. So it evens out, sort of. And you got 4 Tuvan reps...christ, you dont want to know what we got for losing our fleet in NOL. out of curiousity wut did CELES end up getting for that? ......
TWD	Posted - 2006.01.30 19:25:00 - [138] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: TWD Unfortunately when adding a few mails missing on our killboard, the score is no longer in our favor Does this mean we finally made up for the loss of jurushys uberfitted dread? \o/ Nah - just based on insurance payout on ships @ our killboard. Ofcourse it will be fixed again.
Jonkai	Posted - 2006.01.30 19:27:00 - [139] Bah, wanted to be there for this one too. Sods law though.
Jonkai	Posted - 2006.01.30 19:28:00 - [140] Originally by: Mustafa Ken'Yova Originally by: Kinsy Edited by: Kinsy on 30/01/2006 19:11:24 Monty Burns. Hands rub. excellent... Feel sorry for you about the lag, though, but its pretty fair to say we've all been on the recieving end at some point. So it evens out, sort of. And you got 4 Tuvan reps...christ, you dont want to know what we got for losing our fleet in NOL. out of curiousity wut did CELES end up getting for that? Ishtar BPO Cap ii BPO and 400bil
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.01.30 19:31:00 - [141] Originally by: TWD Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: TWD Unfortunately when adding a few mails missing on our killboard, the score is no longer in our favor Does this mean we finally made up for the loss of jurushys uberfitted dread? \o/ Nah - just based on insurance payout on ships @ our killboard. Ofcourse it will be fixed again. We will see -G- Pink Power Darko1107 > i'd rather be fat tbh :P
Rael Anshak	Posted - 2006.01.30 20:15:00 - [142] Originally by: Jonkai Ishtar BPO Cap ii BPO and 400bil wut does that make it for celes then? 4 ishtars and 2 cap IIs :). <3 jonk ________ Hi
Selena Sellion	Posted - 2006.01.30 22:41:00 - [143] Originally by: Elve Sorrow Edited by: Elve Sorrow on 30/01/2006 19:03:39 Originally by: Sabaoth I would also like to add that other Alliance(s) and Corporation(s) residing in NPC sovereignty are not safe! It may take a while for the other Arcs to get off the ground due to lack of staff but we will keep providing rich content to everyone! Just ouf of sheer interest, what about those of us residing in regions without NPC sovereignity? These Events are starting to look more and more interesting and i'd love to be involved in some myself. You can go up to Curse or Stain if the event is there
Elve Sorrow	Posted - 2006.01.30 22:58:00 - [144] I'm quite aware of where i can and cannot go Lalliepants.
Jean	Posted - 2006.01.30 23:28:00 - [145] Edited by: Jean on 30/01/2006 23:32:38 Originally by: Ribbo oh god, not you again. Jean is the same pilot who flew 30odd jumps into a system we had lit up the map. Him and his 4 AF/Intie buddies then proceeded to scan us down to a moon, they then warped to us and suicided themselves against a bob bs/hac fleet that was busy shooting at a downed pos, for words of many that could be heard in the laughter than followed was "how" "stupid" "is" "he" eddz, reel your mouse in. he really doesnt know how to play big boys eve. Ribbo OMG Ribbo.. Why are you so mad? No need to get all rowdy... FYI That 'op' was led by tj... Vleppie and myself said to disengage, but as you should know, a KIA pilot doesnt let his/her buddies fight nor die alone - Prolly much like ur current corp/alliance does as well - So when tj decided to engage we kamikazi'd with him. LEEEROY JENNNNKINS! ----------------------------- Specialist in Digital Analogy
Braaage	Posted - 2006.01.30 23:41:00 - [146] Quote: While it is true that we do not build our ships, we do offer appropriate rewards for the risks players take. This is beyond a joke and not even funny..... I'm not going into detail because no one has officially replied for ASCN but I suggest you look at 3 things: 1) How many took part in the event (player wise) 2) What was lost by the players 3) What you offer as a reward For our encounter those 3 things are so heavily unbalanced it's beyond comprehension. ___________________________________________ http://www.eve-tutor.com Picture based tutorial site for EVE-Online
Jonkai	Posted - 2006.01.31 00:37:00 - [147] Edited by: Jonkai on 31/01/2006 00:37:03 Originally by: Rael Anshak Originally by: Jonkai Ishtar BPO Cap ii BPO and 400bil wut does that make it for celes then? 4 ishtars and 2 cap IIs :). <3 jonk <3 u too
BlackRain	Posted - 2006.01.31 00:54:00 - [148] Edited by: BlackRain on 31/01/2006 00:55:48 Originally by: Jean OMG Ribbo.. Why are you so mad? No need to get all rowdy... FYI That 'op' was led by tj... Vleppie and myself said to disengage, but as you should know, a KIA pilot doesnt let his/her buddies fight nor die alone - Prolly much like ur current corp/alliance does as well - So when tj decided to engage we kamikazi'd with him. LEEEROY JENNNNKINS! As for your insults... I hope Molle puts you on tritmining ops! Jean, you came in here spouting venom, what do you expect? To you I say something which should be quite familiar to all who flew in KIA when I still was around. The acronym has four letters, it starts with S and ends with a U. k? ------------------- -
Jean	Posted - 2006.01.31 06:31:00 - [149] Originally by: BlackRain Edited by: BlackRain on 31/01/2006 00:55:48 Originally by: Jean OMG Ribbo.. Why are you so mad? No need to get all rowdy... FYI That 'op' was led by tj... Vleppie and myself said to disengage, but as you should know, a KIA pilot doesnt let his/her buddies fight nor die alone - Prolly much like ur current corp/alliance does as well - So when tj decided to engage we kamikazi'd with him. LEEEROY JENNNNKINS! As for your insults... I hope Molle puts you on tritmining ops! Jean, you came in here spouting venom, what do you expect? To you I say something which should be quite familiar to all who flew in KIA when I still was around. The acronym has four letters, it starts with S and ends with a U. k? I was sputing, eh... because I used the word 'pethetic'... Jeez the new once-KIA-now-BNC members are easy to offend. Which reminds me, BlackRain and Ribbo: Aren't you two of the pilots that deserted KIA to join our contracted enemy during a time of war? I have an acronym for you too: It starts with an F and ends with OFF! ----------------------------- Specialist in Digital Analogy
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.31 08:11:00 - [150] Jean: shut up. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Seleene	Posted - 2006.01.31 08:18:00 - [151] Word is that the Nyx showed up again last night. What's the story? - CCP - New Documentation Please??
pringprang	Posted - 2006.01.31 08:22:00 - [152] Originally by: Elve Sorrow Just ouf of sheer interest, what about those of us residing in regions without NPC sovereignity? These Events are starting to look more and more interesting and i'd love to be involved in some myself. Your alliance lives in Angel Cartel space like ours doesnt it? _____________________ We are not a mining corp. We are not a pvp corp. We are a 0.0 corp. CoRM is recruiting here
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.31 08:25:00 - [153] Originally by: Seleene Word is that the Nyx showed up again last night. What's the story? G + Serps returned last night, G didn't have enough people to get near a2v6 again so we only had to deal with the Serps. The Serps sent in 2 dreadnoughts and the mothership. Our fleet was about 60, split between BS, support and dreadnoughts. The Serps went after our POS again and spawned masses of NPC battleships as cover. After a long and glorious battle in which many poor firblogs died to our support, we eventually managed to turn the tide against the Serps. We focused purely on the mothership and with a whole fleet it took half an hour just to take that down. Once the mothership was down the Dreadnoughts followed quickly afterwards. BoB are masters of the space, not serpentis. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
BOldMan	Posted - 2006.01.31 09:03:00 - [154] Despite all lag trouble the event was great. I am happy to have chance to play such event and that erase a lot of frustration from issues encounter in eve. Was fun, was exciting. Still, for future events have some nice observation from a player viewpoint. The lag is terrible. For an interceptor pilot to receive and transmit packets to server on 20-30 seconds is horrible. The main quality of an interceptor is maneuverability. Without that an interceptor is useless and dead duck. To break an orbit from a carrier and pursuit a fighter took 1 minute and to be able to target something is a lucky event. Also the missing communication between eve client and server send your interceptor on 200-400km away from battlefield on a rampage speed. I have a good connection, not best possible, but enough to hear perfect all TS communications, eve chat channels and such, but in fleet battle something is wrong, because the eve client-server communications regarding shipÆs actions is poor. Also, I have looked a bit to error logs files after this battle and I saw a lot of memory problems when I was engaged in middle of the battle. Maybe the client doesnÆt manage very well the memory for textures, because many of them were related to that. In the end all was awesome. I was pleased and I will expect more. If the new hardware and 32 bits migration can fix present issues of eve, these events will be a beauty. Apologies for placing here this stuff, but I have to point what was good and what was not. Originally by: Treacle Shazboat Trying to buy from the market. The buy window is blank. Try to send a petition dropped me to the desktop.
Acwron	Posted - 2006.01.31 09:32:00 - [155] Your line regarding G is a joke right? You might wanna review that given yesterdays events...
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.31 09:53:00 - [156] Edited by: DB Preacher on 31/01/2006 09:54:26 Originally by: Acwron Your line regarding G is a joke right? You might wanna review that given yesterdays events... Are you addressing me? No, my line about G wasn't a joke. You came down but couldn't get into a2v6 because you didn't have the numbers. It wasn't a flame, it wasn't abuse, it was just factual? Unless you want to tell me you did actually make it into a2v6? Step back from the PC for a second and don't be so defensive acrwon, not everyone is out to flame you. Whatever happened later on has nothing to do with what I wrote about above since it has nothing to do with the OP. So chill. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
BlackRain	Posted - 2006.01.31 10:54:00 - [157] Originally by: Jean I was spouting, eh... because I used the words 'pathetic' and 'whine'? Jeez the once-KIA-now-BNC members are easy to offend... And here you are again... Quote: Which reminds me, BlackRain and Ribbo: Aren't you two of the pilots that deserted KIA to join our contracted enemy during a time of war? Forumwars 101: Get your facts straight. Otherwise you'll sound just like the ignorant tard you are right now. Quote: As for your four-letter-acronym, I've got quite some four-letter-words for you too. But Ill be mature enough about it not to spout it. LMFAOTBH You two are a disgrace... Now let's see. You march in here flaming left and right and then get all touchy when you get yelled at a bit? And now we're a disgrace? Crawl into the box you came from, please. Bye. ------------------- -
Eleese	Posted - 2006.01.31 14:01:00 - [158] The idea of the events are absolutely awesome.. the problem is imo they dont have the hardware server wise to implement them. For example ASCN had to fight like 5-10 dreadnaughts, 10-15 nightmares next to a large armed POS. Which is fine and not a problem really. BUT they did it on a sunday night with 22,000 people online when to be frank flying 5 jumps was hard enough before the event even started. So lag was simply a joke. Dont get me wrong I think the events are a great ide just feel they should set their sights a little lower til they fix/improve the server, or possibly make the event a quieter night.
j0sephine	Posted - 2006.01.31 14:34:00 - [159] "The lag is terrible." Think yesterday's encounter went pretty well because the lag was actually quite low in the beginning (relogged right before the start so maybe that helped) ... it went progressively worse though. Not sure but it's possible this was due to amount of loot cans from NPC escorts -- their numbers was increaseing, and there's dozens of them in the end. And the lag pretty much all went away again when they were cleared o.O But excellent experience overall... and the mothership is a monster to fight o.x
Ribbo	Posted - 2006.01.31 15:32:00 - [160] Edited by: Ribbo on 31/01/2006 15:38:09 Originally by: Jean Edited by: Jean on 31/01/2006 06:54:49 Originally by: BlackRain Edited by: BlackRain on 31/01/2006 00:55:48 Originally by: Jean OMG Ribbo.. Why are you so mad? No need to get all rowdy... FYI That 'op' was led by tj... Vleppie and myself said to disengage, but as you should know, a KIA pilot doesnt let his/her buddies fight nor die alone - Prolly much like ur current corp/alliance does as well - So when tj decided to engage we kamikazi'd with him. LEEEROY JENNNNKINS! As for your insults... I hope Molle puts you on tritmining ops! Jean, you came in here spouting venom, what do you expect? To you I say something which should be quite familiar to all who flew in KIA when I still was around. The acronym has four letters, it starts with S and ends with a U. k? I was spouting, eh... because I used the words 'pathetic' and 'whine'? Jeez the once-KIA-now-BNC members are easy to offend... Which reminds me, BlackRain and Ribbo: Aren't you two of the pilots that deserted KIA to join our contracted enemy during a time of war? As for your four-letter-acronym, I've got quite some four-letter-words for you too. But Ill be mature enough about it not to spout it. LMFAOTBH You two are a disgrace... listen you clueless little ape. i left kia because empire wars bored me, the pilots that made me enjoy kia had gone inactive or left i was left with people like you. I left way before any contracted war with BoB, if you remember the timescale so did a lot of others. Blackrain also joined via a roundabout route with CEI so as far as barking up the wrong tree your barking in a different forest on a different 'kin continent. squeek squeek ck. ps. the reason im so rowdy is because when a lot of people left i remember the narrow minded hatred that spewed from you on the kia public forums. to say that i wouldnt ** on you if you were on fire is wrong, i would spend the entire day drinking lighter fluid, then ** into a can then throw it on you. - fanboi'ing eve-celebrities the world over.
The Clash	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:26:00 - [161] BlackRain Joined BNC waaaay behind that war . When i used to post on here i would get *****slapped by Eddz .... Think you should tighten teh ropes again Eddz . _________________ You can suck my battleship.
Kane Jacobs	Posted - 2006.01.31 16:29:00 - [162] Originally by: SirMolle I have one more thing to add to all of this; SERPENTIS! GET OFF OUR LAND. Your asses are ours. That is all. asses or assets? _______________________________________________
Kraven Kor	Posted - 2006.01.31 17:14:00 - [163] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: DB Preacher Why G and Serps seemingly teamed up is a bit beyond me, I guess serps saw how rubbish VC/FA/IMP were and decided to go for the heavy mob. Considering G can hold their own against us anyway, I wonder what would have happened if we had teamed up with the serps against G? If people are supposed to keep the larger storyline intact with with real eve politics it has the potential to get messy and counting on the npc factions is iffy since they tend to go awol for long bits... Then again it would absolutely rawk if the bigger pvp alliances in this game took an actual stance and acted according to the traditional rivalries Imho Ya, I don't mind it getting messy. I was more talking about how it would look if BoB were to team up with an NPC faction to go and attack a hostile POS in a random place. Can you imagine the cries of favouritism and hax0rsploit? I personally welcome the challenge... bring on everyone against us but that doesn't stop me being a little annoyed at the duality of the situation. dbp Tell you the truth, DB, I wouldn't want to beat you guys if I had to have aurora be the guns. NPC events need to be planned in advance, and need to be insulated from Player politics as much as possible. As far as FA/VC and Serpentis goes, the last event I saw had them cussing out the serp NPC after blowing up the dread. So Serpentis isn't going to be working with them, methinks. Maximum signature image dimensions are 400w x 120h & 24kb filesize. --Jorauk
Gilad Pellaeon	Posted - 2006.01.31 20:18:00 - [164] Edited by: Gilad Pellaeon on 31/01/2006 20:19:10 Heheh. "Clueless" Jean loves me. Now stop making a fool out of yourself. If you insist on looking foolish, then please hide your Corp tag in your post, because you're another one (I have a short list) that doesn't deserve the KIA tag. Now shush, before I go tell the teacher (EddZ). edit: I used a norty word. _

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