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Aiyana Bayushi
Miners in Pink
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:22:00 -
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The end times are near for you at least. You skirt the rules of the EULA by claiming its how Eve is played and you ruin the game play experience for others by bullying them to pay ransom and then making them change their bios to avoid getting ganked or bumped off grid while afk mining. And while I think true afk mining is pretty stupid even in high sec it is how the game is played. The real problem is they can not fight back because of the same rules and that is a violation of the EULA and maybe one day the GM's will actually enforce that , unlikely but one can hope.
Until then I have had enough , I war deced a 1 man corp that was harassing miners and lol an behold a entire 130+ person alliance joined the fight. Two words for that first , SWEET I am gonna enjoy this so much I war deced the alliance already. Second pathetic 130+ people to fight a one women corp seriously. You will get a lot of blob KMs proving your inability to actually PvP and collect a lot of my corpses for the same reason but I will rack up kills not just against the blobs but also your solo gankers out their relying on the fear of your gank blobs to harass players into paying ransom to play a game they pay for.
And again while it is to a point how the game is played I for one find it disgusting that a few vocal players get their jollies harassing others even in areas that are supposed to be safe from that. The fact the Devs have continuously caved to the vocal minority out of fear of people quitting has always been an annoyance but it is what it is.
I have already called for assistance and do so now as well in taking the fight to you. Not only will I fight you and your gankers no matter how many of my ships you blow up or how many of my corpses you collect. I will hit you where it hurts, I will teach the simple ways to ruin your day. While bumping and ganking can not be entirely avoided they can be easily made not worth your effort.
Simply orbit the rock your mining as close as you can get without bumping makes it hard to get a good bump and since your ship will try and return to the orbit it takes more time and effort to bump someone out of mining range and time for ransomers like y'all is money. And depending on what you are mining in you could easily fill your hold before being bumped off grid and even if bumped off you will return to the orbit once they stop. Just restart your mining lasers once you check on your afk miner and your good to go.
Stopping the gank is also impossible but again you can make it not worth their wild. First thing to remember is you only need to last long just long enough for concord to kill them for you. I believe 27 secs or so is the max you need to last , just about any shield or armor tank will out last a newbie ship the most common gank ship and a half way decent one will stop just about any solo gankers. Or it will at least mean they will have to waste a lot of isk on a high dps ship. And their are plenty fr mining ship builds that can out last 5-6 DD's. By costing them more money then its worth they will give up.
Another point use cheap mining ships for afk mining , your not gonna lose much mining if your afk mining by flying a Venture over say a hulk 6k vrs 8k.And the venture is a fast little ship orbiting at 1k a ganker is not gonna bump you off grid. and it can shield tank like no ones business. Being a frig its hard for big ships to hit and little ones will no do enough damage to pop you before concord pops them.
And if your not AFK mining why are you letting them bump you off grid pay attention and orbit your rock , equip a decent tank and laugh as they waste time and isk.
Those that wish to help fell free to offer assistance or just war dec them yourselves. for those needing help against their solo gankers let me know if I am near enough I might head your way , depending on if I run out of targets in my main area near kamio. Even those that do not want to risk a fight can help by teaching people how to avoid the suicide gank and the bump. It is real easy to do and why give them the satisfaction hhmmm.
So have fun despite them and James IT IS ON!!!! |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:27:00 -
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Great, another open letter.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:30:00 -
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Aiyana Bayushi wrote:The end times are near for you at least. You skirt the rules of the EULA by claiming its how Eve is played and you ruin the game play experience for others by bullying them to pay ransom and then making them change their bios to avoid getting ganked or bumped off grid while afk mining. And while I think true afk mining is pretty stupid even in high sec it is how the game is played. The real problem is they can not fight back because of the same rules and that is a violation of the EULA and maybe one day the GM's will actually enforce that , unlikely but one can hope. In what way does what they're doing skirt the EULA? How does the EULA keep people from fighting back?
Quote:I war deced a 1 man corp that was harassing miners and lol an behold a entire 130+ person alliance joined the fight. Two words for that first , SWEET I am gonna enjoy this so much I war deced the alliance already. Second pathetic 130+ people to fight a one women corp seriously. So don't wardec corps if you're not ready for the eventuality of them bringing in allies to support them. vOv
Quote:The fact the Devs have continuously caved to the vocal minority out of fear of people quitting has always been an annoyance but it is what it is. Which vocal minority are you talking about here?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:33:00 -
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Welcome future Star Citizen player 
Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:44:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Welcome future Star Citizen player
If all the miners leave, who will there be left to bump?
You know damn well there's a CCP think tank analyzing that very situation right now. In an Ice Fortress secreted under a live volcano, riding dark fiber and so far off the grid that not even the NSA has collected their email specimens for threat analysis.
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:44:00 -
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1. Fit a tank/stab
2. Stay aligned
3. Keep drones out
4. Don't go AFK
5. For the love of the gods, DO NOT strengthen their resolve by paying for their "permits"
6. Don't mine the static belts
7. SMERG is your friend. We are nice men with happy feelings, all the time.
"you can identify eve players by looking at their cars. Since they don't drive what they can't afford to lose."-á --áBienator II |
Aiyana Bayushi
Miners in Pink
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:47:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Aiyana Bayushi wrote:The end times are near for you at least. You skirt the rules of the EULA by claiming its how Eve is played and you ruin the game play experience for others by bullying them to pay ransom and then making them change their bios to avoid getting ganked or bumped off grid while afk mining. And while I think true afk mining is pretty stupid even in high sec it is how the game is played. The real problem is they can not fight back because of the same rules and that is a violation of the EULA and maybe one day the GM's will actually enforce that , unlikely but one can hope. In what way does what they're doing skirt the EULA? How does the EULA keep people from fighting back? Quote:I war deced a 1 man corp that was harassing miners and lol an behold a entire 130+ person alliance joined the fight. Two words for that first , SWEET I am gonna enjoy this so much I war deced the alliance already. Second pathetic 130+ people to fight a one women corp seriously. So don't wardec corps if you're not ready for the eventuality of them bringing in allies to support them. vOv Quote:The fact the Devs have continuously caved to the vocal minority out of fear of people quitting has always been an annoyance but it is what it is. Which vocal minority are you talking about here?
I war decced them on purpose and harassing players is against the EULA , CCP's definition of harassment has taken a bad turn over the yrs , the fact that they made it a lot harder to gank in high sec is proof they have realized that.
As for not being able to fight back its simple without risking sec status by attacking first and getting concorded there is no way to fight back against those who do not care about that and forcing people to pay isk and change their bios to avoid continued harassment by taking advantage of game mechanics is a violation of the EULA. CCP is making strides to fight such things but they made the big mistake in the beginning to ignore EULA violations in order to gain and keep players. Those that have been around from day one well remember the days that the only people playing were gankers and bots.
As for the vocal minority simple , gankers are. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:48:00 -
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This thread gave me a raging hard on.
Eve is Real |
Frying Doom
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:50:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Welcome future Star Citizen player If all the miners leave, who will there be left to bump?
Well I guess they will start having to bump PvP players who will be forced to mine as the real miners will be in greener pastures.
Any spelling and grammatical errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
Aiyana Bayushi
Miners in Pink
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:52:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:stoicfaux wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Welcome future Star Citizen player If all the miners leave, who will there be left to bump? Well I guess they will start having to bump PvP players who will be forced to mine as the real miners will be in greener pastures.
I always find it amusing how many PvPers forget that , then I also find it amusing how many people think ganking is PvP  . Outside of FW real pvp does not occur in high sec. |
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Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse
Cannibal Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:53:00 -
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Well..
Hello there future war target.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2013.10.18 03:59:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:This thread gave me a raging hard on.
You tightly wound a thread around your pulsing member to cut off the oxygen as a limited auto-erotic asphyxiation game? Or was that just a variation on the "your tears are delicious" meme?
The latter is droll. The former demands details!
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17017
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Posted - 2013.10.18 04:07:00 -
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Aiyana Bayushi wrote:I war decced them on purpose and harassing players is against the EULA , CCP's definition of harassment has taken a bad turn over the yrs , the fact that they made it a lot harder to gank in high sec is proof they have realized that. CCP's definition and enforcement of harassment has become a bit stricter, yes, but only where it matters: to remove newbie griefing. So that's not actually a bad thing.
But the New Order isn't harassing players GÇö they're running a legitimate extortion racket, which is fully within the rules. Harassment kicks in when they start targeting specific players, following them around and making it impossible for them to actually play the game. None of that is happening.
Quote:As for not being able to fight back its simple without risking sec status by attacking first and getting concorded there is no way to fight back against those who do not care about that and forcing people to pay isk and change their bios to avoid continued harassment by taking advantage of game mechanics is a violation of the EULA. Again, no. There is nothing in the EULA that prohibits protection rackets. And just because you don't like the consequences doesn't mean there is no way of striking back.
Quote:CCP is making strides to fight such things but they made the big mistake in the beginning to ignore EULA violations in order to gain and keep players. GǪbut again, there are no violations of the EULA in this case. They are not keeping you from playing the game and they're not forcing you to do anything. You are choosing to go along with their scheme to avoid the minute inconvenience of finding a better system to work in.
Quote:As for the vocal minority simple , gankers are. That doesn't make sense, since you said that the devs have continuously caved to this supposed minority. You're going to need to come up with something very concrete to show that they have in any way placated gankers (and I'm being kind here and leaving out the even more nonsensical claim that it's for fear of losing customers).
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
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Posted - 2013.10.18 04:07:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Cipher Jones wrote:This thread gave me a raging hard on. You tightly wound a thread around your pulsing member to cut off the oxygen as a limited auto-erotic asphyxiation game? Or was that just a variation on the "your tears are delicious" meme? The latter is droll. The former demands details!
It had Star Citizen, ganking miners, Hisec war decs, a post by you, a chick, epeen balance and checks via leaving drones out to get back on the killmails because gankers are too cheap to use arty nados...
In short it was the best piece of media I have seen since "The Empire Strikes Back".
Eve is Real |
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
Caldari State Capturing
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Posted - 2013.10.18 04:36:00 -
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OP - You have it all backwards.
They are not breaking the EULA by bumping/ganking your ship.
The opposite is the case.
I mine daily without a permit - they never come to bump or gank my ships.
I feel they are discriminating against me by not doing this.
Discrimination against other players is covered by the EULA.
If you want to get your soul to heaven, trust in me.
Now don't judge or question.
You are broken now, but faith can heal you.
Just do everything I tell you to do.
(Opiate - Tool) |
Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
4343
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Posted - 2013.10.18 04:40:00 -
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Why do I get the feeling OP is just yet another one of James' alts crying for attention?
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Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
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Posted - 2013.10.18 04:46:00 -
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The man reason the new order does what it does, other than the free isk from their victims, is to extract tears for their own amusement.
So thanks for feeding them OP. 
Post with your main, like a BOSS! |
Malcolm Shinhwa
bad touches
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Posted - 2013.10.18 04:49:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Why do I get the feeling OP is just yet another one of James' alts crying for attention?
No she is a glorious carebear in all her splendor. Wardec's one man corp, then comes to forums to complain when its not working out like she planned.
Hey CCP, please slush my fund like you did for SOMER Blink. |
Don Purple
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.18 04:58:00 -
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You are just adorable.
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Don Purple
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.18 04:59:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:Well..
Hello there future war target.
I do so enjoy seeing this comment in random forum postings.
She did say she would fight  |
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Stimfisk Lennelluc
Lucid Dreamers
WHY so Seri0Us
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Posted - 2013.10.18 05:00:00 -
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Great thread, 10/10 would read again.
Embrace the ganking, buy the permit, or figure out how to stick it to 'em.
But in reality, don't afk mine, its really the worst  |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.18 05:58:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Why do I get the feeling OP is just yet another one of James' alts crying for attention? No she is a glorious carebear in all her splendor. Wardec's one man corp, then comes to forums to complain when its not working out like she planned.
A gankbear
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2013.10.18 06:04:00 -
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This is silly. You don't understand the game nor it's rules.
That said... who exactly are your WarTargets?
I'm curious.......... |
xxVastorxx
Abh Empire
Ex Cinere Scriptor
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Posted - 2013.10.18 06:59:00 -
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I just laugh at people trying to sell permits, they dont own highsec, concord does lol. |
Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Industrial Corp.
Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2013.10.18 07:00:00 -
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I enjoy your story , +1
The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |
Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
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Posted - 2013.10.18 07:16:00 -
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not actions, aliases, posts.
less can be more m7. just go easy on the apple drink.
freelance space bum |
Omar Alharazaad
ZomCom
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Posted - 2013.10.18 07:46:00 -
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White Glaze is actually frozen miner tears. Without ganking the ice anomalies will not respawn. It's the EVE food chain and stuff... |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
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Posted - 2013.10.18 08:15:00 -
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I can confirm that this is a true carebear. The thread title has a typo. You do realize that a permit is much cheaper than your likely losses right?
I look forward to reading the stories of this war on www.minerbumping.com
See Bio for isk doubling rules. -áIf you didn't read bio, chances are you helped fund those who did. |
Aldeskwatso
Primus Societas
Beyond All Bounds
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Posted - 2013.10.18 08:16:00 -
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Honestly dude, I don't understand afk miners at all. You pay for a game, and then you start hording in ores to increase profitsn+à You don't actually play the game you pay for. You just grow fat with isk, maybe buy some shiney stuff and feel a false sense of accomplishment. While the only thing you generally did is undock, warp to, target and press F1, F2 and F3. Worst case, you use a bot, in which case I have no sympathy for you at all and should be banned for life imo.
Then at some point you cap out with skills relative to mining, you wouldn't dare go outside of highsec to mine for more profitable ores and the market fluctuations just won't cut it, so the only thing to increase your profits is to afk mine for longer periods of time. This in turn increases the chance someone resorts to bots.
Then there's the CEO's of such corps, why would you want to have afk miners in your corp at all?! They just drag things down to an inactive boring ass corp that only serves the purpose of confronting legitimate players with an example of what corp not to be in. Ruining their experience. It's a suffocating experience to have them in corp.
I mine from time to time because sometimes I'm not in the mood to chase people around, camp stations/gates and what not, I want to use a BPC that got dropped to build something I want, etc. etc. During Hulkageddons, local gank events, or in general, I've never been victimized by gankers ever. Mainly thanks to being active, use D, know all the tricks of their trade and who run em. Honestly, what they do aint that difficult and imo is only slightly less mind numbing than afk mining
Miners need to step up their game and adapt to their enemies to overcome whatever obstacle they throw at you. Being active and live at your screen is the best first step. Refusing to adapt just opens you up to more innovative ways for your enemies to get satisfaction out of it.
But a wardec on their asses is at least something, tho it won't solve the core of the problem.
When I point to the moon don't stare a my finger! |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
Turing Tested
720
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Posted - 2013.10.18 08:24:00 -
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Open letter to the OP
The end times are near for you.
You ruin the game play experience for others by supporting the destruction of the New Eden free market and then refusing to do anything to avoid getting ganked or bumped off grid while afk mining.
I think true afk mining is pretty stupid even in high sec and it is NOT how the game is played. AFK Mining and Botting for Isk is a violation of the EULA and maybe one day the GM's will actually enforce that , unlikely but one can hope.
You war deced a 1 man corp that was harassing miners and lol an behold a entire 130+ person alliance joined the fight.
What did you expect would happen, and how has becoming a list of kills helped your cause? In what way has sacrificing your time and effort improved anyone's lives in Hi-Sec?
You say "I for one find it disgusting that a few vocal players get their jollies harassing others even in areas that are supposed to be safe from that." Hi-Sec is not supposed to be safe. No where is supposed to be safe. You are as safe as you work at being. Nothing in EvE is free. There is no safety, no "press A to win button".
The fact the Devs have continuously caved to the vocal minority out of fear of people quitting has always been an annoyance but it is what it is. People like YOU.
" I will hit you where it hurts, I will teach the simple ways to ruin your day. While bumping and ganking can not be entirely avoided they can be easily made not worth your effort." THATS THE POINT. If you cannot see that this is one of the reasons that the New Order exists, then you are too lacking in intellect to do anythign but AFK mine anyway.
If your not AFK mining why do you care?.
Your letter's "threats" are what the mining community should be doing, but they wont.
Enjoy herding your cats.
And when or if you ever manage to mount a resistance, I hope you remember to have enough security in place not to get AWOXed.
But I doubt you will.
Your AFK Mining laziness will make sure that you won't succeed without upping your game signifgantly.
Yours in blood,
Dr. R McCandless
MD, PhD, MSc, IDKFA, IDST, AFK, BRB
"Ramona McCandless, you're my hero." - Domanique Altares, Rifterlings, Point Blank Alliance
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