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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
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Posted - 2013.12.13 11:56:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:.......yet miners cannot attack a bumper that is ******* with them......
Wrong sir!!!
There are MANY MANY things you can do to avoid a bump......such as having a corp member BUMP THEM FIRST. They could organize a Syrian Suicide Gank Squad to hit said bumper. The possibilities are endless.
Also if you are active at the keyboard you can simply park in the midst of Big Rocks and make it very difficult to manage a bump since you are surrounded by Large Collideable Objects.
Basically, the afkbears whine because they have no way to stop being bumped while they are afk....
And, of course, the best way to Not Being Bumped is to be At The Keyboard and the proud possessor of a shiny Permit.
I suppose they could join a nullsec alliance and afk mine their little hearts away in null.....or a WH corp....but that would simply be waaaaay too much effort for them.
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Zol Interbottom
Theft and Taxes
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Posted - 2013.12.14 05:59:00 -
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Except none of them really let them fight back, they can make it harder, but it doesn't stop it in the end, if someone in a catalyst for some reason tries to gank me while I'm flying around in highsec i can pull out drones and plink them until CONCORD vaporise them, and then possibly get the pod kill if its worth losing my ****.
If the only options that exist are to be bumped or pay money to stop bumping that doesn't sound like a sound mechanic.
Stupid forum posts become my MS-Paint art, send me some stupid posts if you see them |
Magna Mortem
Fratres Et Sorores
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Posted - 2013.12.14 09:24:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:Except none of them really let them fight back, they can make it harder, but it doesn't stop it in the end, if someone in a catalyst for some reason tries to gank me while I'm flying around in highsec i can pull out drones and plink them until CONCORD vaporise them, and then possibly get the pod kill if its worth losing my ****.
If the only options that exist are to be bumped or pay money to stop bumping that doesn't sound like a sound mechanic.
Having friends helps. I know that most miners don't really have any, but that is something you have to change. Bitching does not help.
You and your fellow miner friend can web each other to avoid being bumped too far off. An alternative is to have a friend sit next to you in a battleship that webs you and permareps you. Last time I have heard you can fit your mids with shields and resistance fields, so that definitely helps. That increases the amount of catalysts needed to destroy your vessel by a few, making gankers kill your competition, which raises your isk/hour. Not that it's much anyway.
The only thing that prevents you from doing so is your own attitude.
Acta, non verba! |
Good Posting
Posting with my Mind
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Posted - 2013.12.14 11:32:00 -
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As usual, you are overrating the meaning of the word friendship in a virtual world. |
Zol Interbottom
Theft and Taxes
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Posted - 2013.12.15 08:19:00 -
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Except I'm not talking about catalysts blowing **** up, catalysts making things explode is fun, what isn't fun is someone being able to **** with someone with no even recourse against them.
You didn't even read my post.
Stupid forum posts become my MS-Paint art, send me some stupid posts if you see them |
Veronica Ice
Kalypso Security Services Inc
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Posted - 2013.12.15 13:28:00 -
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Eve is a sandbox. Think of ganking as terrorism and take prcautions. FIT A TANK. WATCH LOCAL. Don't mine "Sittin on a rock", stay 10k off roids and move along the belt. Fix your overview and be aware. As far as the afk thing....well if you fit a tank and you do your research you should know how many salvos you can take from a ganker. But i they want you they will get you. It's a numbers game. Make it as unprofitable for them as you can. If you afk you run a risk. If you think this is unfair you should find something else to play because there are bullies in the sandbox and they will kick sand in your face if they find you. I think I still have a copy of Privateer  . |
Magna Mortem
Fratres Et Sorores
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Posted - 2013.12.15 15:31:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:Except I'm not talking about catalysts blowing **** up, catalysts making things explode is fun, what isn't fun is someone being able to **** with someone with no even recourse against them.
You didn't even read my post. Fun. Well I'll be damned. You're not having fun. No idea if you're actually mining or not, but miners simply don't have fun. It's definitely not meant to be fun. So there isn't actually an issue if there's no fun. Your whining ain't fun either and still you're doing it. See? The solution is to stop mining. Plain and simple. |
Zol Interbottom
Theft and Taxes
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:29:00 -
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You've convinced me, mining should be removed from EVE entirely.
no more ships for anyone!
Stupid forum posts become my MS-Paint art, send me some stupid posts if you see them |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:30:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:Except I'm not talking about catalysts blowing **** up, catalysts making things explode is fun, what isn't fun is someone being able to **** with someone with no even recourse against them.
You didn't even read my post.
You have no recourse? Do you even play Eve, or just Mining Laser Simulation Online? There are plenty of ways to counter gankers. If you start thinking about what to do when the warning bells go off, you've already lost.
I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Agondray
Avalon Templaris
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:46:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Zol Interbottom wrote:Except I'm not talking about catalysts blowing **** up, catalysts making things explode is fun, what isn't fun is someone being able to **** with someone with no even recourse against them.
You didn't even read my post. You have no recourse? Do you even play Eve, or just Mining Laser Simulation Online? There are plenty of ways to counter gankers. If you start thinking about what to do when the warning bells go off, you've already lost.
you cant tank a barge from everything, ive seen goons gank in a battlecruiser, all you can really do is get a couple of miners and set in a bs with a tank, and even than if they really want you dead, they will. they even gank orcas if they feel up to losing more money for a pricer kill on their kb. in all just stop mining or buy a socalled permit from one group whose laws can change and get ganked by another separate group |
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Zol Interbottom
Theft and Taxes
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:01:00 -
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IM NOT TALKING ABOUT GANKERS ATBKGJBAKJGSDTGbiksgzdfgjc bds j shiggy
I'm talking about bumping, they are completely different in terms of what you can do about it.
Stupid forum posts become my MS-Paint art, send me some stupid posts if you see them |
Yi-Ming Gren
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS
CODE.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:05:00 -
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Zol Interbottom wrote:IM NOT TALKING ABOUT GANKERS ATBKGJBAKJGSDTGbiksgzdfgjc bds j shiggy
I'm talking about bumping, they are completely different in terms of what you can do about it.
get's bacon popcorn this is getting good. I love a good forum pvp match. |
Marlin Spikes
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
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Posted - 2013.12.16 13:10:00 -
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Miners in Pink....that has victim written all over it. If you want to mine, join a nullsec corporation. Its much safer mining in nullsec. Highsec is reserved for pvp. |
Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
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Posted - 2013.12.17 00:02:00 -
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Agondray wrote:you cant tank a barge from everything, ive seen goons gank in a battlecruiser, all you can really do is get a couple of miners and set in a bs with a tank, and even than if they really want you dead, they will. they even gank orcas if they feel up to losing more money for a pricer kill on their kb. in all just stop mining or buy a socalled permit from one group whose laws can change and get ganked by another separate group
Well there is more you can do besides tank your barge. But even at that, if done properly they will lose more in isk than you will. Scoop their mods and laugh all the way to Jita. Or better yet, just fly a Proc or Skiff and laugh while the guy next to you gets ganked in his pimp mack. Have a corpmate/alt fly Griffin. Watch local. Local too busy? Don't mine there. All sorts of things and this is just the beginning of the list. All things that miners don't do because a) *effort* and b) isk/hr.
Zol Interbottom wrote:IM NOT TALKING ABOUT GANKERS ATBKGJBAKJGSDTGbiksgzdfgjc bds j shiggy
I'm talking about bumping, they are completely different in terms of what you can do about it.
Lots of things you can do about bumpers. You're just not very creative. Play Eve better instead of asking for a dumbed down Eve.
I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Yi-Ming Gren
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS
CODE.
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Posted - 2013.12.17 05:30:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:Agondray wrote:you cant tank a barge from everything, ive seen goons gank in a battlecruiser, all you can really do is get a couple of miners and set in a bs with a tank, and even than if they really want you dead, they will. they even gank orcas if they feel up to losing more money for a pricer kill on their kb. in all just stop mining or buy a socalled permit from one group whose laws can change and get ganked by another separate group Well there is more you can do besides tank your barge. But even at that, if done properly they will lose more in isk than you will. Scoop their mods and laugh all the way to Jita. Or better yet, just fly a Proc or Skiff and laugh while the guy next to you gets ganked in his pimp mack. Have a corpmate/alt fly Griffin. Watch local. Local too busy? Don't mine there. All sorts of things and this is just the beginning of the list. All things that miners don't do because a) *effort* and b) isk/hr. Zol Interbottom wrote:IM NOT TALKING ABOUT GANKERS ATBKGJBAKJGSDTGbiksgzdfgjc bds j shiggy
I'm talking about bumping, they are completely different in terms of what you can do about it. Lots of things you can do about bumpers. You're just not very creative. Play Eve better instead of asking for a dumbed down Eve.
True, one would just have to buy a permit and follow the CODE and can go a whole year without getting bumped. Just because you don't like the options provided to you does not mean there are no options. |
Tasiv Deka
End-of-Line
105
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Posted - 2013.12.17 07:07:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed a rule breaking post and those quoting it. The rules:33. Posting of chat logs outside the Crime & Punishment forum channel is prohibited.
The posting of chat logs between player parties is prohibited on all forum channels of the EVE Online forums, with the exception of the Crime & Punishment Channel where they can be posted as part of stories in the Pirate Story Thread.
Specific rules regarding the omission of pilot names apply in this instance. Further details can be found in the rules stickies in the Crime & Punishment forum channel.
Ezwal this post is in Crime and punishment... you moved it here...
Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts...-á
The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2013.12.17 09:06:00 -
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Agondray wrote:you cant tank a barge from everything The same is true of every ship in the game that isn't restricted to CCP use. |
Treborr MintingtonJr
Quantum Reality R n D
Spaceship Samurai
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Posted - 2013.12.17 16:02:00 -
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I hear it only takes 10 mil to get rid of bumping, sounds simple enough. |
Yi-Ming Gren
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS
CODE.
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Posted - 2013.12.18 01:27:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Agondray wrote:you cant tank a barge from everything The same is true of every ship in the game that isn't restricted to CCP use.
Well there is the Permit tank, and the Code tank I have seem them do wounder for the life of a barge best part yet, they do even take a ship slot (low, med, or high). They also have the added bonus of preventing bumping, what else could a miner ask for. All for the low, low price of 10m a year, and following the Code. |
Connaght Badasaz
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2013.12.18 03:53:00 -
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What systems is this going on in? I have some t.v. to watch, but I want to make isk at the same time. So I need the system in which this permit thing is most enforced. So I can come get bumped a bit.
Take arrows in the forehead, never the back |
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
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Posted - 2013.12.18 16:35:00 -
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Connaght Badasaz wrote:What systems is this going on in? I have some t.v. to watch, but I want to make isk at the same time. So I need the system in which this permit thing is most enforced. So I can come get bumped a bit.
All over hisec. But Gamis seems to be a good choice if you want really entertaining local to read as well.
I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS
CODE.
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Posted - 2013.12.18 18:55:00 -
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Connaght Badasaz wrote:What systems is this going on in? I have some t.v. to watch, but I want to make isk at the same time. So I need the system in which this permit thing is most enforced. So I can come get bumped a bit.
Hm, we probably should stream some ganks for public relations purposes. I'll look into doing this at some point in the future.
I hate to disagree with you,-ábut there is nothing subjective about "boring" in connection to "mining".
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