The end times are near for you at least. You skirt the rules of the EULA by claiming its how Eve is played and you ruin the game play experience for others by bullying them to pay ransom and then making them change their bios to avoid getting ganked or bumped off grid while afk mining. And while I think true afk mining is pretty stupid even in high sec it is how the game is played. The real problem is they can not fight back because of the same rules and that is a violation of the EULA and maybe one day the GM's will actually enforce that , unlikely but one can hope.

I war deced a 1 man corp that was harassing miners and lol an behold a entire 130+ person alliance joined the fight. Two words for that first , SWEET I am gonna enjoy this so much I war deced the alliance already. Second pathetic 130+ people to fight a one women corp seriously.

The fact the Devs have continuously caved to the vocal minority out of fear of people quitting has always been an annoyance but it is what it is.

Welcome future Star Citizen player

In what way does what they're doing skirt the EULA? How does the EULA keep people from fighting back?

So don't wardec corps if you're not ready for the eventuality of them bringing in allies to support them. vOv

Which vocal minority are you talking about here?

If all the miners leave, who will there be left to bump?

Well I guess they will start having to bump PvP players who will be forced to mine as the real miners will be in greener pastures.

This thread gave me a raging hard on.

I war decced them on purpose and harassing players is against the EULA , CCP's definition of harassment has taken a bad turn over the yrs , the fact that they made it a lot harder to gank in high sec is proof they have realized that.

As for not being able to fight back its simple without risking sec status by attacking first and getting concorded there is no way to fight back against those who do not care about that and forcing people to pay isk and change their bios to avoid continued harassment by taking advantage of game mechanics is a violation of the EULA.

CCP is making strides to fight such things but they made the big mistake in the beginning to ignore EULA violations in order to gain and keep players.

As for the vocal minority simple , gankers are.

You tightly wound a thread around your pulsing member to cut off the oxygen as a limited auto-erotic asphyxiation game? Or was that just a variation on the "your tears are delicious" meme?

The latter is droll. The former demands details!

Why do I get the feeling OP is just yet another one of James' alts crying for attention?

Well..

Hello there future war target.

No she is a glorious carebear in all her splendor. Wardec's one man corp, then comes to forums to complain when its not working out like she planned.

Open letter to the OP

The end times are near for you.

You ruin the game play experience for others by supporting the destruction of the New Eden free market and then refusing to do anything to avoid getting ganked or bumped off grid while afk mining.

I think true afk mining is pretty stupid even in high sec and it is NOT how the game is played. AFK Mining and Botting for Isk is a violation of the EULA and maybe one day the GM's will actually enforce that , unlikely but one can hope.

You war deced a 1 man corp that was harassing miners and lol an behold a entire 130+ person alliance joined the fight.

What did you expect would happen, and how has becoming a list of kills helped your cause? In what way has sacrificing your time and effort improved anyone's lives in Hi-Sec?

You say "I for one find it disgusting that a few vocal players get their jollies harassing others even in areas that are supposed to be safe from that." Hi-Sec is not supposed to be safe. No where is supposed to be safe. You are as safe as you work at being. Nothing in EvE is free. There is no safety, no "press A to win button".

The fact the Devs have continuously caved to the vocal minority out of fear of people quitting has always been an annoyance but it is what it is. People like YOU.

" I will hit you where it hurts, I will teach the simple ways to ruin your day. While bumping and ganking can not be entirely avoided they can be easily made not worth your effort." THATS THE POINT. If you cannot see that this is one of the reasons that the New Order exists, then you are too lacking in intellect to do anythign but AFK mine anyway.


If your not AFK mining why do you care?.


Your letter's "threats" are what the mining community should be doing, but they wont.


Enjoy herding your cats.


And when or if you ever manage to mount a resistance, I hope you remember to have enough security in place not to get AWOXed.

But I doubt you will.




Your AFK Mining laziness will make sure that you won't succeed without upping your game signifgantly.


Yours in blood,

Dr. R McCandless
MD, PhD, MSc, IDKFA, IDST, AFK, BRB

"You and your corporation have not lost ships to them. Please post with the characters effected by New Order or we will assume you're just another of their alts with their weekly forum topic attempting to stay relevant.
Lieutenant Turelus

Caldari Independent Navy Reserve

The Fourth District"

you and your post are lame.. please post some content or at least something amusing or we'll just have to assume you're just another of James taint lickers crying for attention

posting in 100001th thread about NO

posting in 100001th thread about NO

Honestly dude, I don't understand afk miners at all. You pay for a game, and then you start hording in ores to increase profitsn+à You don't actually play the game you pay for. You just grow fat with isk, maybe buy some shiney stuff and feel a false sense of accomplishment. While the only thing you generally did is undock, warp to, target and press F1, F2 and F3. Worst case, you use a bot, in which case I have no sympathy for you at all and should be banned for life imo.

Honestly I don't understand "elite pvp" at all. You pay for a game, then you start attacking other players to increase profits? You don't actually play the game you pay for. You just grow fat with ISK, maybe buy some shiney stuff and feel a false sense of accomplishment. While the only thing you generally did was undock, warp to some hapless target that can't defend itself locked down by a t1 frigate, target, F1. Worst case, you use a neutral RR alt, in which case I have no sympathy for you at all and should be banned for life imo.


TL;DR: If that's how someone wants to play their game, let them. Who are you to say how they should play it?

Hypocrit.

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means. Also fix your sarcasm detector while you're at it.

This thread gave me a raging hard on.

Look at all the content James 315 has generated, both directly and indirectly. They should give him an unique ship or something!

But was it good content ? Is there anything about bumping uglies ships that folks that play other games find worthy..........or newsworthy even ?Nope.

Well..

Hello there future war target.

After reading the OP my only question was on which page this would be.
It amazes me after all this time that people think the new order is interested in or needs the 10 mill isk mining permits.
They are at about 138 billion isk in share purchases. They use all this isk to fund suicide catalysts. They genuinely care about eve and want people to stop playing afk or via bots and to actually engage in the MMO and interact with people around them. They are good people and very friendly to code complaint miners.
The only way being code compliant could possibly harm you is if you really want to play afk. If u actually want to play eve then it will only help you and make moves to low or null easier when u decide to take a visit.
OP and others in this thread feel they are fighting some sort of evil whereas in fact they are fighting a form of tough love that has turned many bored miners into happy eve players.

Look at all the content James 315 has generated, both directly and indirectly. They should give him an unique ship or something!

I don't think that's a criteria, because what do folks that play other games find worthy in someone enabling gambling addiction, making ingame and real life profits in the process? At least James 315 runs Minerbumping as a non-profit, spending all cash coming in on the Minerbumping community.

Believe me, the other gamers look on the activity of just physically bumping ships as idiotic, as they rightly should.

After bumping a ship 3 times, CONCORD should intervene for the disruption of free commerce and trade within Empire Space.

Or Red Flagged at least if they want some real excitement.

*Shakes sarcasmeter*

Hmmm maybe this thing really is borked....

does it count as "player generated content" and do i deserve "unique ship"?

On that note, I can't remember who had it, but I remember seeing a sig once on a respected GD regular that stated that if you cannot defend what you have, it was never yours to begin with.

GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥

A miner gets griefed for mining (i.e. bumped) and then gets griefed when they try to fight back (jumped by an alliance.)


What message are we sending here?

I believe that is Tippia.

edit - yup

Originally from here.

TearsGäó

You don't like a game, don't play it. Its a simple as that. This is a sandbox where anything can happen and you should have done the research before putting real life time and money into a sub. Playing Eve is a privileged, not a right. Just because you don't agree with another players playstyle doesn't mean that (so long as it is within game rules) you are allowed to defame, call out, or personally attack them on the forums or any other means of communication.

Have not seen a single war target yet

A miner gets griefed for mining (i.e. bumped) and then gets griefed when they try to fight back (jumped by an alliance.)


What message are we sending here?

Tears lol , please learn to read people , I am looking forward to the fight problem is I can 't find any damn targets lol.

Forum insults are like being on a blob KM , its a pointless way to get people to laugh at you not with you.

I did not know they had been forum trolling or I'd would have not bothered posting and for the record I war decced the alliance after they joined the fight hows that crying lol. Have not seen a single war target yet

Plan on keeping the corp war dec but keeping the alliance one is pointless since they are not coming out to play and have allied with the corp. Either way I'll rack up kills as soon as someone shows up to kill.

A miner gets griefed for mining (i.e. bumped) and then gets griefed when they try to fight back (jumped by an alliance.)


What message are we sending here?

A miner gets griefed for mining (i.e. bumped) and then gets griefed when they try to fight back (jumped by an alliance.)


What message are we sending here?

A miner gets griefed for mining (i.e. bumped) and then gets griefed when they try to fight back (jumped by an alliance.)


What message are we sending here?

I can 't find any damn targets lol.

Hi there war target, how's it hangin?

Just a protip, so you don't waste time...the vast majority of New Order Logistics are gankers. We're outlaw status, so we can't undock for honorable space ~gudfites~.

Here's hoping the rest of CODE. can generate some awesome and fun content for you, though! Lots of us gank alts are getting our normal PVP chars in position to ally in. Been awhile since we've had a good ol' fashioned throw-down war.

Best of luck to ya!

Aiyana, consider yourself watchlisted.

I will use locator agents to find you. I will strike without warning at a time of my choosing.

I will use unconventional tactics that you do not expect.


For James 315 - the rightful owner, ruler and saviour of highsec.

Oh btw please tell zazz or how ever you spell it that using a NOS on a Squid missile boat is a waste , my current build is not only cap stable it purposely has extra cap , even with all my mods on and his nos my cap never moved. And please tell me someone has a picture of that odin pilots face when his bomb barely dented my shield :p .

2 fights so far and since I had a blond moment and forgot my scram >.< they both were able to run , twice :p .

I'd like to see the look on his face when he launched a bomb in hisec... currently you're giving blondes a bad name.

Something did 6k dmg :p assumed it was a bomb because we were in a area far away from the main areas and were at war. Never have fought a bomber in High Sec and did not think torps could do that much dmg.

"Aiyana">
LMAO you mean to 2 fights you ran from don't count :p . Been on a bunch but can not be on all the time I am signing a lease and starting a new business today so gonna let the war expire since our play times do not seem to jive. the smack talk was fun but some of y'all need to learn the difference between smack talking and just being rude >.< .

Got a few weeks coming to me 3-4 months from now assuming I can take the time out from my new business we may have to try this again. Then again this my first time as a Owner/Op so who knows whats gonna happen :(

"Aiyana>so gonna let the war expire"

Wait, so after all that tough talk... nothing?!?

Wow, you truly spanked us!!

This war cost us zero and never interfered with my my bumping efforts once.

On the other hand, this war cost you 100 million!

I win!


Another victory for the New Order!

(I think I'll go bump someone to celebrate)

... bloated self-important nonsense . . .

I want to side with the miners simply because they aren't so bloody stupid.
Just shut up, will you? You guys have got your own website for this childish DBag crap. Spare us.

Have you met the miners? Especially the ones in this thread? This thread we didn't start by the way.

For the love of God, will you people just STFU? Get a grip. Go back to that pathetic circle-jerk that is minerbumping.com and toss each other off on your own dime.

You ever met someone who thinks he's God's gift to humanity? Yea, everyone around him knows he's a DBag, everyone knows he's full of BS. Everyone rolls their eyes when he walks in the room. No one has any real respect for the guy.

And then he opens his bloody mouth again, and it's not enough just to know he's a punk azz *****. Now you want him to shut his damned trap and leave you to your peace of mind.

That's where I am at with James 315 and his minions of morons. For the love of God, will you people just STFU? Get a grip. Go back to that pathetic circle-jerk that is minerbumping.com and toss each other off on your own dime.

I agree. I read their manifest, and it was okay until I came to supporting themittani as CSM chair. Did they not get the memo about themittani encouraging a auditorium full of people at fanfest to grief a specific EVE player because said EVE player has suicidal tendencies, so that said EVE player would actually kill himself? That means themittani has little humanity, and the new order wants to back that pond sludge up. Way to go new order.

:edit: he is a poor video of themittani. This is the slime in human form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMAw

If all the miners leave, who will there be left to bump?

You know damn well there's a CCP think tank analyzing that very situation right now. In an Ice Fortress secreted under a live volcano, riding dark fiber and so far off the grid that not even the NSA has collected their email specimens for threat analysis.

I war decced them on purpose and harassing players is against the EULA , CCP's definition of harassment has taken a bad turn over the yrs , the fact that they made it a lot harder to gank in high sec is proof they have realized that.

As for not being able to fight back its simple without risking sec status by attacking first and getting concorded there is no way to fight back against those who do not care about that and forcing people to pay isk and change their bios to avoid continued harassment by taking advantage of game mechanics is a violation of the EULA. CCP is making strides to fight such things but they made the big mistake in the beginning to ignore EULA violations in order to gain and keep players. Those that have been around from day one well remember the days that the only people playing were gankers and bots.

As for the vocal minority simple , gankers are.

LOL Zazz I have more disposable income then I got sense the wardec on your corp will stay til I get bored not til I surrender if Sir Knight is right and y'all are moving PvP alts in to play then I doubt I will end the dec any time soon. Now I am letting the dec on the alliance pass because I did that only to prove a point. Since they are gonna ally with you no sense in wasting isk :)

I do admit the point I made about finding ganking disgusting is true , I've seen it ruin to many good games and almost ruin this one. Reason I quit for 2yrs was over that. But since CCP seems to be learning I am happy to give it another try. But this is Eve and it is what it is.

As I said before I got out of corp mining alts to feed me mins and BPO's for every thing I use , oh PROTIP before I forget I was mining on alt while we were fighting today :p . So outside the wardec which cost me a whooping bank breaking 2 dollars a week this was is and will never cost me anything :) . And since I have no E-Peen to stroke losing ships and even clones does not bug me not only will I quickly knock the rust off I will learn new tricks , I may even move back to 0.0 space if I get the PvP bug again

I agree. I read their manifest, and it was okay until I came to supporting themittani as CSM chair. Did they not get the memo about themittani encouraging a auditorium full of people at fanfest to grief a specific EVE player because said EVE player has suicidal tendencies, so that said EVE player would actually kill himself? That means themittani has little humanity, and the new order wants to back that pond sludge up. Way to go new order.

:edit: he is a poor video of themittani. This is the slime in human form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbYNLmtAMAw

my current build is not only cap stable it purposely has extra cap , even with all my mods on and his nos my cap never moved. And please tell me someone has a picture of that odin pilots face when his bomb barely dented my shield :p .

2 fights so far and since I had a blond moment and forgot my scram >.< they both were able to run , twice :p .

Upon realizing his error he also stepped down from CSM, apologized and gave the guy ISK. If you're going to make accusations about a player, look at every angle. I think you're only seeing what you want to see.

Smartbombing in highsec huh? Hah!

I didnt see anywhere near as many tears as I saw poorly written, misinformed, or just plain incorrect posts from the OP.

Smartbombing in highsec huh? Hah!

.......yet miners cannot attack a bumper that is ******* with them......

Except none of them really let them fight back, they can make it harder, but it doesn't stop it in the end, if someone in a catalyst for some reason tries to gank me while I'm flying around in highsec i can pull out drones and plink them until CONCORD vaporise them, and then possibly get the pod kill if its worth losing my ****.

If the only options that exist are to be bumped or pay money to stop bumping that doesn't sound like a sound mechanic.

Except I'm not talking about catalysts blowing **** up, catalysts making things explode is fun, what isn't fun is someone being able to **** with someone with no even recourse against them.

You didn't even read my post.

Except I'm not talking about catalysts blowing **** up, catalysts making things explode is fun, what isn't fun is someone being able to **** with someone with no even recourse against them.

You didn't even read my post.

You have no recourse? Do you even play Eve, or just Mining Laser Simulation Online? There are plenty of ways to counter gankers. If you start thinking about what to do when the warning bells go off, you've already lost.

IM NOT TALKING ABOUT GANKERS ATBKGJBAKJGSDTGbiksgzdfgjc bds j shiggy

I'm talking about bumping, they are completely different in terms of what you can do about it.

you cant tank a barge from everything, ive seen goons gank in a battlecruiser, all you can really do is get a couple of miners and set in a bs with a tank, and even than if they really want you dead, they will. they even gank orcas if they feel up to losing more money for a pricer kill on their kb. in all just stop mining or buy a socalled permit from one group whose laws can change and get ganked by another separate group

IM NOT TALKING ABOUT GANKERS ATBKGJBAKJGSDTGbiksgzdfgjc bds j shiggy

I'm talking about bumping, they are completely different in terms of what you can do about it.

Well there is more you can do besides tank your barge. But even at that, if done properly they will lose more in isk than you will. Scoop their mods and laugh all the way to Jita. Or better yet, just fly a Proc or Skiff and laugh while the guy next to you gets ganked in his pimp mack. Have a corpmate/alt fly Griffin. Watch local. Local too busy? Don't mine there. All sorts of things and this is just the beginning of the list. All things that miners don't do because a) *effort* and b) isk/hr.



Lots of things you can do about bumpers. You're just not very creative. Play Eve better instead of asking for a dumbed down Eve.

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you cant tank a barge from everything

The same is true of every ship in the game that isn't restricted to CCP use.

What systems is this going on in? I have some t.v. to watch, but I want to make isk at the same time. So I need the system in which this permit thing is most enforced. So I can come get bumped a bit.

What systems is this going on in? I have some t.v. to watch, but I want to make isk at the same time. So I need the system in which this permit thing is most enforced. So I can come get bumped a bit.