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xXBeatnikXx
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Posted - 2006.02.01 01:13:00 -
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Well, I am lazy, but nosey: Anyone heard, read, or have a strong opinion on the possible Tier three Battleships that MAY or MAY NOT be included in the next content patch (that MAY or MAY NOT be coming out for a long time anyway?)
Would really appreciate at least a point in the right direction if any gossip is around. Personally I hope that they combine the specific advantages of each races tier one battleships (i.e. Gallante:DRONES; Caldari:EW; etc) and made them as aggressive as the tier two (Big stats, big fitting)....
There are so many new ships and changes that are making ships very specific, it would be nice to have a ship that a player with less then 20million skill points can fly that can take on multiple PvP ships.
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Daidraco
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Posted - 2006.02.01 01:17:00 -
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ONE MAN POWER HOUSE! RAR I FLY BIG SHIP I TAKE ON THOUSAND PEOPLE RAR!
I for one havent heard of any Tier 3 battleship, but hell its a nice thought!
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CptEagle
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Posted - 2006.02.01 01:55:00 -
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So basicly you want a Megathron, Dominix and Scorpion in one ship. Slot layout would be 8/8/7. Its would have 4 bonusses, 5% to tracking, damage, drone damage and hp and sensor dampner effectiveness.
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Cheechako
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Posted - 2006.02.01 02:30:00 -
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CCP has said the caldari are getting their rail BS as a tier 3 ship....
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Cavy Dan
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Posted - 2006.02.01 02:34:00 -
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I want a caldari Railplatform (6 or 8 Turret hardpoints, 2 Launcher hardpoints) with a bonus to Range and Perhaps Shield Resistance or Shield Booster amount or something funky like Reduction in Nos-duration. And no missile bonii what so ever!
It would probably be a sniper up to par with the Tempest.
(Not to be uber, but slightly tougher in shield/Armor/structure than the lower tiers. It is more expensive and should be slightly sturdier. And of course slower/more mass/less agility)
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DiNoer
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Posted - 2006.02.01 03:03:00 -
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Here's a hint: NEW HULL MODELS!
Armour/Shield resistance upto par with HAC's
To me a battle ship is a slugger that can as well dish out as swallow unfantomable ammounts of damage, sure slow as heck tho
One crazy-flamebating idea is to have 1-2 of these new fighters at your command?
La prospTritT de l'Gme libre
La prospTritT de la fTdTration
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JoeSomebody
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Posted - 2006.02.01 03:27:00 -
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Edited by: JoeSomebody on 01/02/2006 03:27:03
 Originally by: DiNoer
Armour/Shield resistance upto par with HAC's
in your dreams maybe 
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Adam C
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Posted - 2006.02.01 03:32:00 -
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Edited by: Adam C on 01/02/2006 03:34:02
devs could bring them out tomorrow, but they dont because they want to give them something unique*
if the community forces them, they'll end up with teh funk textures. like recon ships. 
my isk is on they'll come out after 'tactical enviroment' changes maybe with bonuses to give them advantages.
think nebula's that would slow any normal ship and and kill ability to cloak. jam etc :D
give or take 6months
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.02.01 04:48:00 -
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They are going to be interesting with strengths and weaknesses and are aimed at NOT supplanting the existing ships.
*snip* That's not very appropriate. - Teblin |
Central Scrutinizer
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Posted - 2006.02.01 11:06:00 -
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If the Caldari one has 10% hybrid optimal bonus per level, I will become a professional bookmark copier operating in Jita to exact my revenge.
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Aba Tor
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Posted - 2006.02.01 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Central Scrutinizer
If the Caldari one has 10% hybrid optimal bonus per level, I will become a professional bookmark copier operating in Jita to exact my revenge.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
P.S. but u are right :)
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Khaldorn Murino
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Posted - 2006.02.01 11:20:00 -
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If the minmatar one has a split HP/split slot layout i will cry.
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- The fire burns..
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Nocturnal Avenger
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Posted - 2006.02.01 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: DiNoer
Here's a hint: NEW HULL MODELS!
Armour/Shield resistance upto par with HAC's
If that is implemented, level 4 will be so easy that characters with 2M SP will be able to solo all of them. That would be quite a mockery of the old players who rely on skills and expensive ships/fittings to do that.
Anyway - a tier 3 BS would probably "only" get a bit more shield/armour and perhaps some stronger bonuses. HAC-resist become the "win" button.
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.02.01 13:11:00 -
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get them in soon pls ccp
Us BS users are getting a bit bored with only 2 options.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.02.01 13:14:00 -
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We've heard nothing official on how it's going to happen, but I expect to see some rejigging of the existing battleships prior to the tier 3s being released, as happened recently with the mark 2 project for cruisers and frigates.
I also expect that the Arma will get nerfed into a tracking disruptor ship as a part of this rejigging 
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The Major
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Posted - 2006.02.01 13:15:00 -
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The Caldari BS is probably the most predictable one of the lot purely because we got an unconventional ship as our Tier 1 and have been missing a Rail Platofrm since the game launched.
Odds are it will follow the same convention of all Caldari Rail Platforms:
+10% optimal per level and +5% shield resists per level.
Also probably something along the lines of an 8/7/5 layout with enough grid to fit 6 T2 425's comfortably or 7 uncomfortably.
It will have an optimal range measured in lightyears.
Can't wait myself ;)
Oh and to CCP art boyz: It must be a vertically orientated ship. IT HAS TO BE. I love the Nag too much and will never have the opertunity to fly one :(
Just think of a bigger taller Harpy (perhaps with shorter "wings" with 6 Railguns on either side of the main pylon and 1 on each wingtip. Yum.
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Tar om
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Posted - 2006.02.01 13:20:00 -
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Minmatar:
Phoon model with twiddly bits.
8:6:7 H:M:L
8 Turret, 2 launcher.
10% bonus to NOS range, -10% bonus to medium proj sig res, 10% bonus to web range per level.
Call it the Disinterceptorgrater
RAH! \o/
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Swethren
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Posted - 2006.02.01 13:28:00 -
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Gallente could use a proper blaster boat, or a damping BS, so it could follow the lines of the cruisers.
celetis++ == Tier 3 BS
vexor ++ == Domnix
thorax ++ == megathron
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MOS DEF
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Posted - 2006.02.01 13:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tar om
Minmatar:
Phoon model with twiddly bits.
8:6:7 H:M:L
8 Turret, 2 launcher.
10% bonus to NOS range, -10% bonus to medium proj sig res, 10% bonus to web range per level.
Call it the Disinterceptorgrater
RAH! \o/
Dude: It's TIER 3 not tech 2. It will be a whole new ship model and no phoon for sure.
Whover mentioned HAC resists: Once they hit the server (if ever) it will be normal tech 1 ships wich mens normal resists.
They might be better then current tier 2 BS but i doubt they will be the uber end of all super ship.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.02.01 13:29:00 -
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stats where leaked somewhere around a few days ago
matari had 8 turret slots 
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Azuriel Talloth
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Posted - 2006.02.01 13:33:00 -
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Check near the bottom
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Ralitge boyter
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Posted - 2006.02.01 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: xXBeatnikXx
it would be nice to have a ship that a player with less then 20million skill points can fly that can take on multiple PvP ships.
Yes it would as long as I get all available BPO's in my hanger as soon as they are relaesed.
But honnestly you want a one ship wins all solution right?  How about NO!!
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Azuriel Talloth
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Posted - 2006.02.01 13:47:00 -
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Originally by: xXBeatnikXx
There are so many new ships and changes that are making ships very specific, it would be nice to have a ship that a player with less then 20million skill points can fly that can take on multiple PvP ships.
It's called Electronic Warfare 
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Gierling
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Posted - 2006.02.01 14:43:00 -
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They are probably going to be balanced something fierce before release.
Imho the Gallente one should have 8 turrets, an MWD bonus and a falloff bonus... uber blaster boat.
The minmater one is going ot have to be balanced real hard to not make the tempest redundant.
*snip* That's not very appropriate. - Teblin |
Commander Nikolas
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Posted - 2006.02.01 14:50:00 -
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Yeah everyone knows that Caldari tier 3 BS will be an uber rail platform.
Word is the Gallente will get a Tier 3 sensor damp BS... Does anybody else see this as retarded?
Caldari have the only useful Ewar abilities (ECM), the best DPS instapwn everything (even ceptors) tank the gate guns for hours BS (Raven), now they are getting the ultimate sniper ship?
I mean seriously... they nerfed the Tempest to where its DPS makes it the weakest tier 2 BS, blasters are completly broken, the typhoon might as well get a bonus to self destruction time, the only major ship/config that gal/min had was the rail mega. Now they are going to give an uber rail boat to Caldari and give Gallente a giant pre-nerfed sensor damp boat?
The devs are too busy running agent missions in Jita to fix blasters, arty, they lie to us and secretly remove Gallente modules added with RMR (drone damage mods)... now they are planning to give Caldari the only BS ability they didn't have and screw the rest of us.
Is anybody else getting angry since RMR and all the lies and betrayals from the devs? Before RMR was released they were posting promises in the fourms of fixing blasters and arty... they also promised that they raven wouldn't get an uber damage boost... that torps wouldn't be able to hit ceptors...
Seriously... where are you devs? I sat by and read the fourm posts and didn't feel the need to complain on the fourms... you said you would fix the other races problems! you said you wouldn't give caldari another uber boost!
WHERE ARE MY DRONE DAMAGE MODS!! I want a bloody answer... seriously... they were on the market with RMR... there isn't a word about them in the early jan patch notes... WHICH ONE OF YOU REMOVED THEM!
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Randuin MaraL
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Posted - 2006.02.01 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: xXBeatnikXx
There are so many new ships and changes that are making ships very specific, it would be nice to have a ship that a player with less then 20million skill points can fly that can take on multiple PvP ships.
No way you get an "I win"-button. And I doubt tier 3 will be available before summer, if ever.
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Gronsak
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Posted - 2006.02.01 15:09:00 -
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interesting.
i hope none of the tier 3 BS are EW ships.
The scorp is effective as a EW BS but a damping EW BS lol
or a TP BS
bring them out ASAP we need more toys. balance them later.
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Jim Steele
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Posted - 2006.02.01 15:14:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Steele on 01/02/2006 15:15:24
Id like a Amarr BS with bonuses of say -50% laser cap usage and 50% range (with BS5),
Something that tanks not so well as a Apoc but can mount 8 tachon twos and get 200km+ range out of them. Ouch.. that would be nasty.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.02.01 15:23:00 -
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Right now it doesn't look like any of the new BShips will be EWar at all. The preliminary stats have caldari top-ranking in mid slots with 7.
The Minmatar and Gallente has 8 turrets while the Amarr and Caldari have 7. Looks like these will be mostly fleet ships.
All of them have hightened signature radi (around 500m instead of the normal 400m) and all of them have increased powergrid and CPU, as well as an additional slot in mid or low compared to the tier 2 model.
They'll probably change drastically with deployment, though. Especially when we get to know what their boni will be (currently listed as A: -5% -5%, C: +10% +5%, G: +10%, M: -10%)
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Kye Kenshin
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Posted - 2006.02.01 15:26:00 -
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I will cry if the gallente Tier 3 is made into a ****ty ew platform!
If tha caldari get an ultra rail platfrom i demand the Gal get an ultra blasterboat which we so deperately need!
P.S Make the gal tier 3 look sexy not like the moros thank-you
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