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Testy Mctest
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Posted - 2006.02.02 10:34:00 -
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 Originally by: Skellibjalla
...oh, and there will be no lag!
Except when the RMR expansion comes out :)
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Brokkur Helfari
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Posted - 2006.02.02 12:48:00 -
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Edited by: Brokkur Helfari on 02/02/2006 12:49:15
Edited by: Brokkur Helfari on 02/02/2006 12:49:03
Well thank you all.
My name is Petur; I am the designer of EVE: The Second Genesis CCG. I promise we'll do our very best to deliver you a high-quality CCG and I hope that you will feel that it keeps up with the brand's standard.
The game is mainly aimed at mature gamers such as your selves as well as CCG veterans. Even though the game hasnÆt been officially announced yet, we obviously havenÆt been ôhush hushö about it
There will be a more formal announcement as soon as possible that will contain more information about the game and its release. E-ON also provides a lot of information on the game.
I will get back to you soon,
Brokkur Helfari
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Sirilonwe
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Posted - 2006.02.02 13:32:00 -
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It is a "good" idea. But which place would it have with already well known CCG like Magic? I have EVE friends, but those are not very near where I live. Why would I buy such a game (and I really would like)?
If there was a CCGWorkshop version of it, i'd like to test it. Do you mind if someone did an electronic version of this CCG?
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Zapatero
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Posted - 2006.02.02 14:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sirilonwe
It is a "good" idea. But which place would it have with already well known CCG like Magic? I have EVE friends, but those are not very near where I live. Why would I buy such a game (and I really would like)?
If there was a CCGWorkshop version of it, i'd like to test it. Do you mind if someone did an electronic version of this CCG?
CCGW is a nice application, but I don't think CCP would appreciate an electronic version of the game right now. I can't speak for them (contrary to popular belief I don't work @ CCP) but I would estimate the chances of there being an electro-CCG are the same as for an electro-EON.
I want the EVE poker chips... :)
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Krayl
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Posted - 2006.02.02 15:13:00 -
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I hope this game is not just 2 player... Would be nice to have a large game where each player is a major empire or alliance... Remember the Babylon 5 CCG which did something like that? *wonders if there will be any mention of current player alliances in there* |
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Brokkur Helfari
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Posted - 2006.02.02 15:26:00 -
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Making sure that the game would play equally as well in multiplayer as in 2-player has been an integral part of the game design, in fact, one of the beta groups prefers to play multiplayer only.
-Brokkur
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Matthias DuBastyra
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Posted - 2006.02.02 15:54:00 -
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WOW! Still in Beta, eh? Do you need anymore beta testers? I'd love to try it out. In my community, there are five of us that are Magic the Gathering veterans that also play EVE with me. We are all part of the same corporation. I know they would love to help beta test as well. We take our gaming seriously and I think we could provide for you another perspective from half a world a way (San Antonio, Texas over here Yeehaw!)
To clarify from previous posts, CCG is an abbreviation for collectable card game. The term is used to denote a game that is primarily based in a card format (however, some companies do stretch the definition a bit). CCG's are different from other games in that each player plays with his own deck of cards that are customized by the player. Within the scope of the rules of that particular game, the player can customize his deck based on the availabilty of cards. This is where the term "collectable" comes in. Unlike a regular deck of playing cards, each box of cards contains a randomized collection of cards. The cards, more often than not, can be grouped into a collection much like a suit of playing cards (spades, hearts, diamonds, clubs) but the grouping has more meaning in a CCG as it determines compatability. Once you have bought several boxes of the cards, you will notice that you will have several repeats of the same card and fewer repeats of other cards. The name for this anamolly is what makes the game so addicting: rarity. Some cards are "rarer" then others. In a generic sense, most games have "commons", "uncommon", "rare-uncommons", "rares", and "ultra-rares". Usually the commons are the weaker cards and the Ultra-rares are the more powerful cards (but not always--sometimes they make fewer of a card just for collectablilty factor). To make EVE-sense out of this, think about the suit of cards being the races of EVE and the commons being frigates and rares being battleships. An Ultra-rare example could be the Navy Issue Megathron or a Daredevil Frigate.
Once you've tailored a deck, you can pit it against someone else who's done the same thing. Deck construction is it's own science and it can be frustrating at times. Each game system has its own rules for deck construction but most of them follow two basic rules: Card minimum and Card Compatibilty.
Card Minimum: You would think that if you had every card in your deck, you'd have everything at your disposal but the problem with that is the draw. The draw limits you as to how fast you get those cards you need into your hand. Plus, if you have a deck of 50 cards, there is a 1 in 50 chance that you will draw the card you need as opposed to a 100 card deck (1 in a 100 chance). Which odds would you prefer? So in this case, more is not necessarily better.
Card Compatability: Nothing is more frustrating in a game when you have your hand full of one suit of cards only to draw the next card you need but its the wrong suit. In playing CCG's the same thing applies. You could play with all one suit of cards but that also limits you too. Imagine (back to EVE sense)you play in a corp with that is all the same race. Lets say, Amarrians. Nice ships: strong armor, good ranged weapons and nice tank-ability. Now lets say you set up for sniping. Wohoo! Your 150km off a gate and ready for stragglers. But in warps a Blasterthron! Uh-Oh, could be trouble. If he gets under your optimal, you better get your warp on. In the CCG world, each suit or grouping has it's weaknesses much like a sniping Apoc vs a Blasterthron and if your opponent has just the deck to do it, you are smoked! So imho, playing at least two groupings is ideal. Each one to cover the other's weaknesses.
Well, I could go on but i'm running out of characters. He he. I hope this helps you understand some of the basics. My intention was not to write an exhaustive treatise on CCGs but it looks like a nice start for one. Well down to 66 characters. I guess I better stop (28). 
Matthias DuBastyra
Imperiadux
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"He Who Controls the Spice, Controls the Universe" Baron Harkonen
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Zapatero
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Posted - 2006.02.02 17:08:00 -
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Now there's a man who knows his onions
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.02.02 17:23:00 -
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Originally by: Zapatero
Now there's a man who knows his onions
Vidalia and Spanish Yellow plz. Btw I want to buy like 4 sealed boxes for meh collection and 4 sealed boxes for my playing. That going to cost a lot?
Originally by: "Oveur"
I don't react to threats any better than you do
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.02.02 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Shugo Kazuma
Dunno if I'd be interested in actually playing a Collectable Card Game based on EVE, but I wouldn't mind picking it up if the artwork on the cards is half decent.
The artwork for the CCG has all been done internally, most of which have been taken from ingame screenshots or the illustrations used for the Eve Chronicles, and other sections of the web site. If you're a fan of our artwork, you will not be disappointed by the quality of the CCG artwork.
kieron
Community Manager,
EVE Online
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Brokkur Helfari
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Posted - 2006.02.02 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: Brokkur Helfari on 02/02/2006 21:14:03
In fact, recently there has alot of new art been made that will be used both for the CCG as well as other future EVE material. Alot of it will make it's debute in the CCG.
-Brokkur
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Throdax
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Posted - 2006.02.02 22:52:00 -
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I'm guessing next we would have the equivelant of Battlefleet Gothic but with Eve... that would be... would be awsome!!
I dream alot I know. 
I hope the CCG would be a complex one, as those are the CCG games that most mature audience finds atractive, at least around me. Battletech comes to mind as an original, diferent and complex game and some other games come to mind as Horus Heresy, Net Hack, etc.
I would still love a miniature game on the Eve universe
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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.02.03 03:45:00 -
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I just wish they could make a real life version of my new inGame Avatar and send her to Florida C.O.D.
Originally by: "Oveur"
I don't react to threats any better than you do
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Kldraina
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Posted - 2006.02.03 04:16:00 -
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I think it would be really neat if they could add it to EVE so we could play against our friends while mining. |
Remedial
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Posted - 2006.02.03 05:47:00 -
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I think the real question is whether the predominant player base will be socially retarded 30 year olds with neckbeards hanging out in comics shops, or maladjusted 14 year olds being stuffed into their lockers at school between games.
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Matthias DuBastyra
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Posted - 2006.02.03 14:09:00 -
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Edited by: Matthias DuBastyra on 03/02/2006 14:09:01
Originally by: Remedial
I think the real question is whether the predominant player base will be socially retarded 30 year olds with neckbeards hanging out in comics shops, or maladjusted 14 year olds being stuffed into their lockers at school between games.
Good point, Remedial but then again how would that be any different from EVE players?  Based on the tone of your post there, I'd say your the maladjusted 14 year-old. 
Until Sansha's Nation starts selling cookies station to station, make mine EVE CCG!
Matthias DuBastyra
Imperiadux
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"He Who Controls the Spice, Controls the Universe" Baron Harkonen
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Adaster
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Posted - 2006.02.03 18:08:00 -
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In case you guys are interested about the CCG:
EVE News Interview
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Matthias DuBastyra
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Posted - 2006.02.03 19:13:00 -
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Nice! Thanks for posting the link for the interview!
Matthias DuBastyra
Draconis Wing Commander
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"He Who Controls the Spice, Controls the Universe" Baron Harkonen
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Freada
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Posted - 2006.02.04 07:08:00 -
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The edges of some of the cards will have a magnetic strip so that they stick together to simulate lag.
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B'laze
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Posted - 2006.02.04 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Freada
The edges of some of the cards will have a magnetic strip so that they stick together to simulate lag.
That would be the ultra-common'humping drone card'
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.02.04 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Skellibjalla
Edited by: Skellibjalla on 02/02/2006 09:46:29
<---Sitting close to a PILE of EVE cards from the beta run
The card game is like the online game - Beautiful, innovative and absolutely brilliant!
The carrier cards are bugged too I take it?
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu
I'm probably one of the biggest Bush fanboys in Eve...
This is like, Darth Vader, can't-reach-climax-without-killing-a-puppy evil.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran  |
Lygos
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Posted - 2006.02.05 00:38:00 -
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With a few years to lend perspective, I rather wish prosecutors would descend enmasse on corporations that peddle these gambling services to young people, especially whomever distributes those pokeman and other crap to my nephews. Surely, some prosecutor, somewhere sees a RICO acts violation or something in all this.
However, I do kinda miss those fellow childhood geek friends who would meet every other night for a 6 geek tabletop free for all with red and green jellybeans for kobold tokens. Those guys are probably all either in prison now, or killed in a freak LARPing accidents.
If you or someone you know is a teenager and is considering a flashy lifestyle of collectible card gambling, please stop and tell your friends that it would be better and more productive to do something wholesome like support the local alcohol distribution centers. Think of the children!
Eunoia: The persistent suspicion that the universe is secretly conspiring to quietly improve one's life. |
Citizen X
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Posted - 2006.02.08 14:20:00 -
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Will there be a CCP nerf card? " I nerf your missiles by playing ther CCP wild card"
Will minmatar still suck?
Will one player be given all the Iskies at random at the start, freezing out all other characters wanting to produce? (tech II BPO)
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Cypherous
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Posted - 2006.02.08 15:06:00 -
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Originally by: Throdax
I'm guessing next we would have the equivelant of Battlefleet Gothic but with Eve... that would be... would be awsome!!
Throdax for dev 4tw, that would pwn and i sure as hell would buy it *drools over scale BFG EVE game*
O RLY?! --Jorauk
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The Wizz117
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Posted - 2006.02.08 15:17:00 -
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can i petion cards back when i lose em due lag?
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Asane
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Posted - 2006.02.08 15:55:00 -
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Why would you do such a thing?!
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Alyth
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Posted - 2006.02.08 16:01:00 -
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I play the Ore Thief card to counter your Macrominer
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Cypherous
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Posted - 2006.02.08 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Brokkur Helfari
Edited by: Brokkur Helfari on 02/02/2006 12:49:15
Edited by: Brokkur Helfari on 02/02/2006 12:49:03
Well thank you all.
My name is Petur; I am the designer of EVE: The Second Genesis CCG. I promise we'll do our very best to deliver you a high-quality CCG and I hope that you will feel that it keeps up with the brand's standard.
The game is mainly aimed at mature gamers such as your selves as well as CCG veterans. Even though the game hasnÆt been officially announced yet, we obviously havenÆt been ôhush hushö about it
There will be a more formal announcement as soon as possible that will contain more information about the game and its release. E-ON also provides a lot of information on the game.
I will get back to you soon,
Brokkur Helfari
Just a small suggestion, you could do an un-glued-like set which could contain things like TomB's nerfbat and a lag cannon, could also make things like "Eris's Pink Dread of Doooooom" and a "Wrangler Ban Stick" etc, would make an amusing addition :)
O RLY?! --Jorauk
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Hygelac
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Posted - 2006.02.08 20:45:00 -
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Edited by: Hygelac on 08/02/2006 20:49:05
LOL, reminds me of a Penny Arcade Strip from last year. I dug up the link:
Link to Comic Strip
Oh that image is rehosted from Penny Arcade btw :D
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Claude Leon
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Posted - 2006.02.08 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: Claude Leon on 08/02/2006 21:12:29
How about you work on the server side of things first. You know like where 99.9999% of where your money comes from? Wasting time on projects that only a few will enjoy. 
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