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Hydrogen Art of War	Posted - 2006.08.10 16:03:00 - [91] Originally by: migwar im definatly strugling to fit my pilgrim,Currently got recon 4 and what i thought were decent fitting skills. But even with all named gear (t2 med repper) im still running into CPU issues. Not sure if im missing skills or something, But my curse is pimped out and i had no problems fitting that? Pilgrim pilots want recon 5 - that easy. AF Guide
Onowe	Posted - 2006.08.11 13:05:00 - [92] I have a litle qestion: what hapend if u get webed by blastertron or demios (ot another close rage pvp fited ship? Is 2 TD enought to avoid damage when u webed?
Tasty Burger	Posted - 2006.09.05 04:18:00 - [93] Originally by: juduzz 3 Med dininshing, covert ops cloak AB, 2point scram, cald/amarr and gal race specific jammers. 800mm plate, medium rep, SS thermic hardener, eergized adaptive, damage control Or swop the energized daptive and damage control for 2 stabs if your proberly gonna get blobbed. Will kill an apoc cap in about 4 or so minutes or less from my experience. Only ship thats a pain to Jam usualy is scorp or other recon ships ( aint tried tracking disruptor since the fix though) This is basically the setup I use, except for the damage control. Why the damage control? Pilgrim's only got less than 1000 hull, besides if you're into hull you're kind of ****** anyway. The armor and shield resist bonuses aren't as good as just an energized adaptive for the armor.
Midori Blacke Amarr Die Gestrandeten	Posted - 2006.09.25 11:24:00 - [94] Quote: I have a litle qestion: what hapend if u get webed by blastertron or demios (ot another close rage pvp fited ship? Is 2 TD enought to avoid damage when u webed? You will lose it.
Vicious Phoenix	Posted - 2006.09.25 13:38:00 - [95] Originally by: Midori Blacke Quote: I have a litle qestion: what hapend if u get webed by blastertron or demios (ot another close rage pvp fited ship? Is 2 TD enought to avoid damage when u webed? You will lose it. I disagree, 2 tracking disruptors with the advanced skill trained to 4 will make even a deimos miss most of the time even if you're webbed. Not that it even matters because he'll stop shooting as soon as his cap's out. Same applies to megathron. When engaging deimos/mega I worry more about their drones than their guns. CFW (Certified Forum Warrior) I kill people ingame too.
ShadowAgony	Posted - 2006.10.02 15:01:00 - [96] Edited by: ShadowAgony on 02/10/2006 15:02:45 HIGH - 3 x Med diminishing nos - 1 x covert ops cloaking MEDIUM - 1 x 90% web - 2 points scrambler - 2 points scrambler - 1 multi DG jam - 1 ab LOW - 1 x 800 plate - 1 x med armor rep - 1 x med armor rep -> thats 720 hp / 10 secs - active kinetic hardner - active thermal hardner DRONES: ------1 light 2 med 2 heavy----- * if you lose any drone it sux cose you wont have any replacement -------7 med------ * you will have 2 spare drones ----5 meds 5 lights----- * your choice but i dont like light drones, i prefer medium donres +90% web ******************************************************************** 1.also i dont recomand using neutralizers cose you wont have enough cap for reparing/jaming/scrabling...etc its not about letting him with no cap its about you using his cap 2.tracking disruptor bonus its mainly for Curse ( orbit in 30k) not for a Pilgrim (orbiting in 500m) 3. i never ever use wcs but i guess you could fit 1 wcs+1med rep if you really really want that ******************************************************************** strategy: 1. approach the victim cloaked 2. orbit in 500m 3. scramb/web/nos (make sure he doesnt have cap for smart bombs) 4.jam 5. launch drones 6. wait for him to die 7.loot 8.cloak 9.warp ( even with aggresion timer in 0.4-0.1) 10. find next victim Dont engage domi / close range fited bs's unless you are very rich It works great for me.....hope will do it for you too ^^ PS: i only have recon lev 4
migwar Karnival of Death Squad	Posted - 2006.10.02 15:49:00 - [97] Originally by: Hydrogen Originally by: migwar im definatly strugling to fit my pilgrim,Currently got recon 4 and what i thought were decent fitting skills. But even with all named gear (t2 med repper) im still running into CPU issues. Not sure if im missing skills or something, But my curse is pimped out and i had no problems fitting that? Pilgrim pilots want recon 5 - that easy. i have recon 5 now and must admit it makes a huge difference to fitting this ship. so many options now :)
FraXy Caldari Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 20:14:00 - [98] Covert Ops Cloaking Device II, E50 Nos, 2x Heavy Pulse II Faint 20k, 2x Balmer TD, BZ-5 Spatial, Hypnos Multispec 800mm Crystalline, Medium Repper II, Heat Sink II, 2x True Sansha/Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Platings 5x Hammerhead II / 5x Hobgoblin II Excuse any errors regarding cpu, but i think this is what i ran on mine. This is my lazy attempt to make an uber-signature, please go away!
Tisanta Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2006.10.31 07:35:00 - [99] Can someone give me price estimate on the Pilgrim + fit? With Cov Ops Cloak II, 3x Diminishing Nos etc. the regular fit. With Jita prices if possible.
Ice Globe Amarr Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.31 07:43:00 - [100] Just over 200 mill. Ship - 100 mill Cloak - 70 mill Fittings - 30 mill Drones - around 5-10 mill. ______________ My Gallery
Tisanta Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2006.10.31 07:45:00 - [101] Thank you for your swift reply :)
Tisanta Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United	Posted - 2006.10.31 07:46:00 - [102] Originally by: Vicious Phoenix Originally by: Midori Blacke Quote: I have a litle qestion: what hapend if u get webed by blastertron or demios (ot another close rage pvp fited ship? Is 2 TD enought to avoid damage when u webed? You will lose it. I disagree, 2 tracking disruptors with the advanced skill trained to 4 will make even a deimos miss most of the time even if you're webbed. Not that it even matters because he'll stop shooting as soon as his cap's out. Same applies to megathron. When engaging deimos/mega I worry more about their drones than their guns. And i disagree with you. You should NEVER engage Megathron with Pilgrim/Curse unless you have few gallente racials to keep him jammed.. You are toast with few volleys if he gets a lock on you and has proper skills.
RotaX TakeR	Posted - 2006.10.31 10:40:00 - [103] Originally by: Tisanta Originally by: Vicious Phoenix Originally by: Midori Blacke Quote: I have a litle qestion: what hapend if u get webed by blastertron or demios (ot another close rage pvp fited ship? Is 2 TD enought to avoid damage when u webed? You will lose it. I disagree, 2 tracking disruptors with the advanced skill trained to 4 will make even a deimos miss most of the time even if you're webbed. Not that it even matters because he'll stop shooting as soon as his cap's out. Same applies to megathron. When engaging deimos/mega I worry more about their drones than their guns. And i disagree with you. You should NEVER engage Megathron with Pilgrim/Curse unless you have few gallente racials to keep him jammed.. You are toast with few volleys if he gets a lock on you and has proper skills. not with 2 tracking disruptors on him
AlphaM Doom Guard	Posted - 2006.10.31 11:11:00 - [104] from experience, I can say a single TD isnt enough to make a BT miss enough to make taking them down easy, i havnt engaged a BT when fitting 2 TD, all i see to find is bloody ravens!!!
Bermag Point-Zero Ratel Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.08 12:50:00 - [105] This is the setup I am thinking of: Highs: Covert op cloak 2x E50 1x Medium Unstable neut Med: 90% web 7.5k Web scrambler (named with lowest cpu dont remember name) 2x Balmer TD 1x Hypnos multispec Lows: 800 mm crystalline plate 2xEAN II 2xMedium Accomodation armor repairs* *) I am really not sure about this. I don't have the CPU to use one T2 MAR and something else useful (like another energized plating). I think only thing that would fit with the rest of the stuff is an internal force field array. Other options though are nanofiber or resistance plating. I also don't like not having an AB but if I want to keep 2x TDs (one is not enough IMO) and be able to have the other medium slot stuff which I think is essential for solo ops then I have to give up the AB. I am not convinced that it is a good idea though. Comments?
Hellspawn01 Amarr The Phantom Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.11.08 13:26:00 - [106] After playing with some setups I put this together: 1x Cov ops cloak 2x Med diminishing nos 1x Med named neut 1x TS warp scrambler 1x Fleeting webber 1x Balmer tracking disruptor 2x Hypnos multi 1x Med repper II 1x 800mm named plate 1x Named nanofiber 1x EANM II 1x Energized thermic membrane II The reason for the nano is that I¦m slightly faster while flying cloaked and also better turning speed. Hammerhead II or T2 ogres are my choice of drones. Ship lovers click here
FraXy Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.09 16:14:00 - [107] Originally by: Hellspawn01 After playing with some setups I put this together: 1x Cov ops cloak 2x Med diminishing nos 1x Med named neut 1x TS warp scrambler 1x Fleeting webber 1x Balmer tracking disruptor 2x Hypnos multi 1x Med repper II 1x 800mm named plate 1x Named nanofiber 1x EANM II 1x Energized thermic membrane II The reason for the nano is that I¦m slightly faster while flying cloaked and also better turning speed. Hammerhead II or T2 ogres are my choice of drones. 2x Medium Diminishing, TS Neut, CO Cloak TS Webber, 2x TS Warp Scramblers, 2x Balmer TDs 1600mm RT, TS RCU, TS Medium Armor Rep, 2x TS EANM Setup for Blood-hunters, hence the -4 6200 Armor, 360 HP every 8.73 seconds on some nice resists i can`t remember. It rocks to be short. This is my lazy attempt to make an uber-signature, please go away!
Emeline Cabernet Amarr KVA Noble Inc.	Posted - 2006.11.13 01:16:00 - [108] was thinking of this: e50x2, ts nosf, covert ops ab, balmer, hypnos multi, 90% web, 2 points 2 medium rep, adaptive, dmg ctrl, and... dunno.. some help please
Sviatoslav KillJoy The Beiatch Corp Inc	Posted - 2006.11.26 20:25:00 - [109] I use my Pilgrim for Pvp, it is very effective at 1v1's/fleet combat and an extremely good scout & perfect for deep space voyages. I don't like most of these setups so let me show you my setup, its not perfect because a lot more money can be invested into this setup on which Im planning to do in the future. For all of you who have fit an afterburner on your pilgrim are not using it properly, the Covert Ops cloak is used to sneak in, get close to your enemy and kill them, not to warp in cloaked, decloak and approach with the afterburner... And no, I do not have Recon level 5, but would love to, A lot more possibilites can be opened up if the cloak took 0 CPU to fit. With Kali just coming out, I have removed the jammers cuz they are not going to to any good on a non jamming ship. High Slots 1x Covert Ops Cloak 2x Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I (Less CPU than a T2) 1x Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Slots 1x Fleeting Propultion Inhibitor I 1x Phased Weapon Navigator Array Generation Extron 1x Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I 1x F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator (A T2 Cap recharger would fit also) 1x Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I *Low Slots 1x Medium Armor Repairer II 1x 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II 1x Armor Kinetic Hardener II 1x Armor Thermic Hardener II 1x Shadow Serpentis Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane (Going to get a Dark Blood one fitted soon) I get 4102 Armor HP with this setup & 69.6% EM Resistance 69.6% Explosive Resistance 79.9% Kinetic Resistance 76.8% Thermal Resistance Negative Feedbacks are not welcome, I like my setup and all of you who argue that an afterburner is a must on this ship......die.
Constantine Arcanum Gallente IMPERIAL SENATE Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.22 18:53:00 - [110] Originally by: Sviatoslav KillJoy I use my Pilgrim for Pvp, it is very effective at 1v1's/fleet combat and an extremely good scout & perfect for deep space voyages. I don't like most of these setups so let me show you my setup, its not perfect because a lot more money can be invested into this setup on which Im planning to do in the future. For all of you who have fit an afterburner on your pilgrim are not using it properly, the Covert Ops cloak is used to sneak in, get close to your enemy and kill them, not to warp in cloaked, decloak and approach with the afterburner... And no, I do not have Recon level 5, but would love to, A lot more possibilites can be opened up if the cloak took 0 CPU to fit. With Kali just coming out, I have removed the jammers cuz they are not going to to any good on a non jamming ship. High Slots 1x Covert Ops Cloak 2x Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I (Less CPU than a T2) 1x Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator I Medium Slots 1x Fleeting Propultion Inhibitor I 1x Phased Weapon Navigator Array Generation Extron 1x Balmer Series Targeting Inhibitor I 1x F-b10 Nominal Capacitor Regenerator (A T2 Cap recharger would fit also) 1x Faint Epsilon Warp Prohibitor I *Low Slots 1x Medium Armor Repairer II 1x 800mm Reinforced Steel Plates II 1x Armor Kinetic Hardener II 1x Armor Thermic Hardener II 1x Shadow Serpentis Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane (Going to get a Dark Blood one fitted soon) I get 4102 Armor HP with this setup & 69.6% EM Resistance 69.6% Explosive Resistance 79.9% Kinetic Resistance 76.8% Thermal Resistance Negative Feedbacks are not welcome, I like my setup and all of you who argue that an afterburner is a must on this ship......die. I can understand using the cap recharger for long periods of solo work, but imo it would be better with a cap booster. Ofc you have a limited operational time with them, but your combat abilities are greatly improved. I helped - Cortes What a shiny and lovely place here - Eshtir Well lets make it a party atleast :D -Xorus RAWWWR!11!!1!2 SIG HIJACK!!11!1 I found it first, get orrrfff moiiii laaannnd - Cortes
Private Iron Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.22 21:44:00 - [111] Cap recharger does seem like a waste of a slot, for the reasons stated above, target painter also seems rather useless. imo you should fit more tracking disruptors. -----
Aramendel Amarr Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.01.22 22:11:00 - [112] Edited by: Aramendel on 22/01/2007 22:12:49 Personally I am using 1 faction 10k warp scrambler, 2 TDs and 2 webs in it's meds. I am not particulary happy about it, but I cannot think of anything better for it's 5th slot than a 2nd web. What I am wondering currently is which rigs to use for it. The most obvious option would be armor repair rigs, but considering the pilgrims needs to get within 10k of it's prey - which is getting continiuously more nervous - with it's not exactly fast speed anythign which is reducing this even more does not sound good to me. The only other option I could think of are TD effeciency rigs, but their effect does not justify their compared to other rigs huge price. 2 base speed rigs maybe? Mhh.. those would reduce it's armor, which is also bad.
Creatorofdoom	Posted - 2007.03.20 12:31:00 - [113] I am training for a pilgrim now..and i will use the 2nos/1 neut version of youre setups with 2 carp recharger rig's can work realy sweet!
solaroutcast	Posted - 2007.03.25 00:53:00 - [114] A Decent fitting with a recon probe launcher included would be lovely. I would like the fitting to include some TD:s a warp disturpor MWD..and maybe a light tank. And ofcourse a covert ops cloaking to spike it. I suppose NOS is out of the question since i expect the CPU prolly wouldnt cover even this. Suppose Co-Pro II are the order of the day ehh?
king jks New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.03.25 05:26:00 - [115] If you want scan probes use a falcon or cov ops or something, the pilgrim needs those valuable high slots for nos/neuts. ------------------------
Chronojam Gallente Mom's Friendly Robots	Posted - 2007.03.25 23:29:00 - [116] Lots of good ideas and discussion in this thread. I'm gonna take it all into consideration. I picked one of these babies up after skilling up from absolutely NO amarr or covert ops skills whatesoever recently. I really don't know if I should make this thing set up for very long range or very close range, what are some thoughts on this? Tracking disruption works out to 50-70km, but I can't scramble any targets farther than about 10km. The drones are happy out to 70km, but the NOS again only goes out to about 10km. I figure I could always build it for close range and rely on the fact that some of my stuff just happens to go our farther than I'll "ever" need to save the day when I get engaged farther than I'd want. Full drone skills for the win in any event
Misanth	Posted - 2007.03.26 02:56:00 - [117] High Covert Ops Cloaking Device II 2x Medium 'Knave' I Energy Drain Medium Unstable Power Fluctuator Medium Faint Epsilon Warp Inhibitor Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Balmer Series Target Inhibitor DD0 Photometry I Target Interface Alumel-Wired I Sensor Augmentation Low Medium Armor Repairer II Shadow Serpentis Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I N-type Kinetic Hardener I N-type Thermic Hardener I Drones 5x Hammerhead II Rigs -none yet- Couple of stuff in this fitting could easily be replaced by just a quick visit to Empire. Both the medium nosses have better named t1, same goes for the 2nd target disruptor (swap to a 2nd balmers). Currently my Pilgrim is fitted with loot from rats I've killed apart from the MARII/drones/cloak. I've got problems deciding what rigs to go for, interested in several of them, as well as I'm not sure if I should keep the sensor booster or not, but there's so much interesting stuff to fit in midslots and.. I love sensor boosters. :/ Having similar thoughts about rigs as someone posted a few posts above mine. Rep? Speed? TD? This ship isn't very skill dependant, easy to fit with recon 4 and more or less basic skills you'd have as Amarr anyway, as well as not too expensive. Might be a good option for players that just sit in their first Pilgrim. Constructive feedback and thoughts on rigs are welcome.
Manus Stuprare Slug Storm Squadron	Posted - 2007.03.26 13:20:00 - [118] I kinda like the idea of two powergrid rigs - lets you fit a 1600mm plate instead of an 800mm, which gives over 6k armour with nice resists. Just a bit more of a buffer really, and speed isn't that important on this ship. -------------- Poisoning the Chalice: Smartbombs as a Counter to Nos.
Cladius Mithra Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.28 22:10:00 - [119] high: 3 nos and cloak med: scram, web, ecm burst, 2 damps low: med rep, 800 plate, thermal, 2x eanm could fit a 1600 plate with powergrid rigs "i think" I haven't flown this yet and i'm wondering how well the 2 damp ecm burst combo works? I like td's, but i hate not being able to shoot at missile ships (read that as ratting ravens) [url=http://www.eve-triumvirate.com/killboard/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=6819] [/url]
Aleranie	Posted - 2007.05.28 23:36:00 - [120] Quote: I haven't flown this yet and i'm wondering how well the 2 damp ecm burst combo works? I like td's, but i hate not being able to shoot at missile ships (read that as ratting ravens) Would you lose to the first one that was sneaky or clever enough to bring f.o.f. with him? or would fof just target your drones.

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