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L4MBDA	Posted - 2006.02.06 03:59:00 - [1] High: 2 x 200mm AC I 1 x Rocket Launcher I (Foxfire ammo) 1 x Nos I Meds: 1 x 1nM AB 1 x Webber 1 x 7.2km Scrambler Lows: 1 x small armor rep. 2 x CPR A lot of the PvP setups I've seen for the Rifter usually use 3 AC's (125, 150, or 200) and 1 rocket launcher (or Nos). I'm wondering how effective this one would be for solo pvping (and perhaps pirating). I've opted for two CPR's over extra armor plating simply for better cap usage. I've tested this out and am able to maintain both scram and webbers in combat (and even the repairer for a reasonably long amount of time). Any thoughts/suggestions on this?
fmercury	Posted - 2006.02.06 05:27:00 - [2] Well you won't be able to tank advantage of the ship bonus with rockets so 3x AC+nos is probably better.
Lienzo	Posted - 2006.02.06 06:55:00 - [3] You don't need a webber in a belt. A cruiser with a webber will kill ya every time. AFs and Inties will giggle. BS will shrug off the damage unless you have support. That NPCer's Torpedoes will kill you in about 3 volleys even running your armor rep fulltime. You might have some luck with Megathrons, Armageddons, or other turret ships with exactly 125m3 of drones. What kinda targets does that leave? Mining barges. Don't need a webber to take out drones with ACs. Industrials. Here you will need that webber. Other T1 frigs. Precious few of those, and less reason still to try to go after them. Shuttles. You might have an ok shuttle killer with a 20km disruptor.
fmercury	Posted - 2006.02.06 06:59:00 - [4] Edited by: fmercury on 06/02/2006 06:59:44 Originally by: Lienzo You don't need a webber in a belt. A cruiser with a webber will kill ya every time. I've killed a few cruisers in a setup similar to his. If you're right up next to them (500m orbit) they'll still have trouble hitting, especially if you keep your AB running. Plus most NPCers use long range guns. Still very vulnerable to drones, so you'll need to be on your toes and pick those off first.
Stribog	Posted - 2006.02.06 09:22:00 - [5] 3x 200mm 2x Web 1x Scrambler 1x 400mm Plate 1x Repper 1x Something else
Phish1	Posted - 2006.02.06 10:04:00 - [6] Edited by: Phish1 on 06/02/2006 10:04:50 This has worked for me in thae past, and i can takea cruiser as long as it doesent have rockets. Hi: - 2 Rocket launchers (whatever ammo, i carry both foxfire and gremlin) - Nos - Smartbomb (for those pesky drones, gets em good) Med: - AB - 7.5km scrambler - Tracking distruptor Low: - Ballistic control - Small armour rep - CPU upgrade (you will need it) All slots are named or TII of ypu can manage them. This is over powergrid and CPU of the ship, so you need good skills to get CPU and powergrid up. Tactics- get in close orbit with AB on, turn on tracking distruptor, they cant hit you with guns. missiles are a problem. The smartbomb is a great drone killer, i spent a while in galente space, and they used guns allot, so no danger of missiles, adn the drones were allways aproblem untill i got the smartbomb. you can shoot the drones with the rockets, the guy your killing cant hit you most of the time. EDIT: oh, and a webber still doesent slow you down enough to get you hit if you have the tracking distruptor
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.02.06 11:51:00 - [7] Gang Setup: 3x 150mm II, Arby Rocket 1mn MWD, 20k Scram, Small Shield Extender Gyro II, MAPC, 400mm Plate mad HP ftw. The Eve Guild Wars Project!
L4MBDA	Posted - 2006.02.06 16:32:00 - [8] Originally by: fmercury Well you won't be able to tank advantage of the ship bonus with rockets so 3x AC+nos is probably better. But is that extra bonus worth replacing the rockets? Because with rockets you have some pretty decent DPS. I don't have a lot of skills spent on projectile weaponry at the moment, so I'm not sure how much a difference it would make.
L4MBDA	Posted - 2006.02.06 16:34:00 - [9] Originally by: Phish1 Edited by: Phish1 on 06/02/2006 10:04:50 This has worked for me in thae past, and i can takea cruiser as long as it doesent have rockets. Hi: - 2 Rocket launchers (whatever ammo, i carry both foxfire and gremlin) - Nos - Smartbomb (for those pesky drones, gets em good) Med: - AB - 7.5km scrambler - Tracking distruptor Low: - Ballistic control - Small armour rep - CPU upgrade (you will need it) All slots are named or TII of ypu can manage them. This is definatley an interesting setup. I'd like to test it out and see how well it fares.
L4MBDA	Posted - 2006.02.06 16:39:00 - [10] Originally by: Lienzo You don't need a webber in a belt. Probably not useful in belts, however I think it would still be useful near gates/stations in 0.0 space.
Kensaru Kentabi	Posted - 2006.06.28 18:16:00 - [11] Trying something a little different. My frigate tackler experience in gang combat seems to consist of getting close enough to scramble and then getting webbed,nossed and blown up. So I thought I'd try this: 2x250mm, 2xStandard missile 1xAB, 2x20km disruptor 3xNano My skills are pretty modest so it's tough to get a set up to fit, but I am pretty happy with this. It orbits at 12km at over 800m/s and has a good top speed 3 250s and 1 missile would free up some cpu, but my grid is 44/44 so it wouldnt help in my case, better skills will be nice. The idea is to stay out of the range of some of the nasty nos and webs and running if you are being targeted. Eve is fun.
Yakov Krasnov	Posted - 2006.06.28 19:07:00 - [12] You won't have enough cap to run those 20km scramblers. That idea with the tracking disruptor sounds interesting though... ----------------------------------------------- Mercenary minded - I'll fly whatever works best.
Nicocat	Posted - 2006.06.28 19:33:00 - [13] 3x small proto autocannons (virtually the same DPS on all kinds) 1x arbalest rocket 1x 7.5km jammer 1x 1mn AB (named) 1x Webber (until I get tracking computers) 2x Gyrostab 2 1x armor rep/emergency damage control This is my en masse setup, i.e. when my corp and I do frig swarms (no, not the Goon blobs, just 4 or 5 of us who are bored of battleships). As you can see, my fitting relies on me not being the first one targeted ;) ---------------------------- The opinions expressed by Nico do not reflect his corporation. He's just an ass. -Alexi Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me!
Dethis	Posted - 2006.06.28 21:17:00 - [14] Edited by: Dethis on 28/06/2006 21:18:45 For gang work HIGH: 3x 250mm Light Artillery Cannon I MED: 1MN Afterburner I, 20km Warp Disruptor I, Web I LOW: Small Armor Repairer I, Nanofiber Internal Structure I, Cap Power Relay I -------- Kill em all and let god sort em out
Kensaru Kentabi	Posted - 2006.06.28 23:23:00 - [15] Originally by: Yakov Krasnov You won't have enough cap to run those 20km scramblers. That idea with the tracking disruptor sounds interesting though... Bah, right you are sir. I can run one for pretty much as long as I please, but 2 are right out. Other stuff that would fit in that slot and not kill the cap: shield resist 7500 scram remote sensor booster passive targeter ship scanner Back to the quickfit! --------------- Eve is fun.
Storming Vengance	Posted - 2006.07.17 18:13:00 - [16] I was thinking about going with 3xAC and a small nos but am not sure what would be good for the mid and low slots other than AB/scram and a repair
Maeltstome	Posted - 2006.08.14 00:00:00 - [17] Bump. I use this setup for frig v frig pvp, ratting and fleet ganks. Hi's 1 x 150mm I with emp (fusion in cargo) 2 x Limos rocket with gremlin (foxfire, thorn and defender in cargo) 1 x small dim Nos Mid's 1 x Langour webber 1 x Random named +2 scram 1 x AB I (has to be named) Lo's 1 x 100mm plate (nano i think) 1 x Damage control I (Could be Balistic or gyro, you choose) 1 x small armor repairer II This setup has served me well - and has the versatility i need, so for me its the best setup i have found, and ive been usng a rifter since my second day playing. All this is with about 1 - 1.5 mill skill points. I have yet to loose in PVP with it, with the exception of a station camp that went horribly wrong when a 2 year raven warped in :/. I've nailed a Crow and one of the amarr inty's aswell, both with massive skills (2 years on the crow) and also survived the alpha strike of a hound with 40% armor (again 2 years of skills). give it a try before you knock it. Rifter is probably the best frig in the game for PVP if you set it up right (yes even better than the kestrel as i have proven several times against rocket and missile setups)
Montero Black Omega Security E.R.A	Posted - 2006.08.14 00:39:00 - [18] Imo the best rifter setup there is goes like this: 3x150mm autos, nos mwd, web/tracking disruptor, scram rep, 200mm plate, gyro It only fits with mad hax fitting skills so switch 150s for 125s as required (really makes very little dps difference). --------- Scrapheap Challenge
Maeltstome	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:10:00 - [19] Edited by: Maeltstome on 14/08/2006 11:12:07 Dont bother with the MWD unless your passive tanking (which is possible in 1on1 frig pvp) The 3 150's are really all don to personal preferanc, i use the rocket launchers so i can fire defenders on the way in - and since missiles are the only really long range weapon that can hit something as small as a rifter, they are negated by the defenders. You can hit nearly 1k's with an ab, so why bother with the 500% sig rad bonus on a MWD?
Lonectzn Pelennor Swarm Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.08.14 11:20:00 - [20] MWD/7.5km/tracking disruptor is great for killing cruisers in belts. -----------------
Maeltstome	Posted - 2006.08.14 23:38:00 - [21] Originally by: Lonectzn MWD/7.5km/tracking disruptor is great for killing cruisers in belts. this is a rifter PVP thread, not a belt running thread.
Tsanse Kinske Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.14 23:50:00 - [22] With that scram, I sorta doubt he's talking about NPC cruisers. :) * * * In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. -Douglas Adams, writing about EVE
Ammonita Virosa The Khaos	Posted - 2006.08.29 21:35:00 - [23] Montero wrote : 3x150mm autos, nos mwd, web/tracking disruptor, scram rep, 200mm plate, gyro It only fits with mad hax fitting skills so switch 150s for 125s as required (really makes very little dps difference). What fitting skills am i missing cos i fall short on power grid, i have Weapons Upgrades 5 Adv Weapons Upgrades 5 Eng 5 Electronics 5 Electronic Upgrades 5 I thought i had em all......but im 0.15 power grid short of getting that setup on.
Toki Asturias	Posted - 2006.09.02 15:59:00 - [24] The fit is really tight I have 1/2way decent fitting skills but not even close to maxed. This setup works well for solo and small gang/wolfpack work. Rifter 125mm Light Prototype I Automatic Cannon 125mm Light Prototype I Automatic Cannon 125mm Light Prototype I Automatic Cannon 'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters J5b Phased Prototype Warp Inhibitor I Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I Gyrostabilizer I Power Diagnostic System I Damage Control I It's somewhat reasonable to put together pricewise. The Medium shield extender can get expensive but thats the lowest CPU one I've found. The ship is right at the ragged edge of fitting. I have less than 1 PG left and less than 2 CPU left, but it works and it works pretty well.
sariss Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.09.02 17:30:00 - [25] autos + nos or rocket web, scram, mwd or ab 200/400mm plate, repper, EANP/gyro/MAPC/whatever Disadvantage: Useless against cruisers or BS with webber/nos (except for tackling) Advantage: Excellent Interceptor-killer if you get them in webbing range (not Blasterranis and Autoclaw though). Note: You need a ****load of skills and experience to a) fit it, b) be a good pilot in it PS: Do not fit Damage Controls (pointless-too little structure), Cap Power Relay/Power Diagnostic/Co-proz (wasted low slot) Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
MOCC3	Posted - 2006.09.03 02:21:00 - [26] I like to run.. 3-200A'c T2 /named nos Scram / Named Mwd T2 Gyro / Adapt Nano / Named SAR Guns filled with Barage.... Bang Bang Bang. I have nice skills around. Still noob thou 3.7 milsp Orbit at 750 M cruisers can't hit u. And u out gun most others Frigs. But not AF's
Toki Asturias	Posted - 2006.09.11 06:25:00 - [27] Unless I completely misunderstand the attributes the damage control adds 7.5% to all shield resistance. 10% to armor resistance and the big 50% to structure resistance. With the little bit of cpu and grid I have left the only 2 real choices I have are Shield power relay, or the Damage Control. Quickfit shows that the relay will add about 2hp/sec to my shield recharge. The way I figure it is if I come up against something that does 100dps that 7.5% will save me 7.5 damage per second on my shields. This will vary some depending on the type of damage done. Even if whatever I'm fighting does only 50dps and is doing a damage type that I have resistance against the Damage Control unit will help atleast as much as a shield relay.
Na'Thuul Caldari Blood Inquisition	Posted - 2006.09.15 09:56:00 - [28] Edited by: Na''Thuul on 15/09/2006 09:55:58 There are Rifter setups, and there is THE Rifter setup. Latter is as follows: Highslots ------------------------------ 150mm Autocannon x 3 Rocket Launcher ------------------------------ Medslots ------------------------------ Afterburner 7.5km scrambler Small Capacitator Booster ------------------------------ Lowslots ------------------------------ Small Armor Repairer 200mm Plate Damage Control Now, as always, use named/t2 mods according to budget. A frig will always be vunerable and die easy, so it's up to you how much you want to pimp it. I prefer using EMP ammo and Phalanx rockets. In the cap booster, I use 150-charges. This keeps your tank going and going and going. Will wtfbbq pretty much any other frigate, many cruisers (Caracalkiller extraordinaire) and have the survivability against drones to serve well as heavy tackler against bigger ships. I've also spanked Crusaders several times in it. Speed around 900ms gets you under the targets guns, and orbiting at 500m you should be reasonably safe even webbed. ---
Fyarr III Caldari Sea Slug Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.25 06:39:00 - [29] I was messing around, had a duel with a corp mate in a punisher. my setup was 3x 200mm autos 1x rocket ab web cap injector 2x armor reps 1x gyro it was a pretty long fight but i won eventually. __________________________________
ErbUs Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2006.09.25 17:55:00 - [30] TTT just got my second Rifter and im gonna need this thread soon lots of options..... yea I'm out here alone

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