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Lord Dreadnaught
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Posted - 2006.02.06 13:45:00 -
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By the end of February, a new pirate order will be formed. Gate camping and belt ransoming is a thing of the past. Welcome to the new age of piracy!
POS Ransoming and POS Removal!
I am forming a new pirate corp of dreadnaught pilots to terrorize empire based POS's. Your precious POS's will be at the mercy of the mighty Dreadnaught!
You will be given the option of paying a monthly protecting fee or watching your investment and income destroyed.
We will also be contracting out our services to your enemies and competitors. No longer will you be able to hoard all the good moons.
A large heavily armed POS will be taken into reinforced mode in 30 minutes or less. You can expect a minimum fleet of 10 dreads plus sentry drones to attack your POS.
Prepare for the carnage!
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Yes, I am posting with a noob alt character to protect our identities until the corp is formed and our skill training is complete.
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hamishoo7
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Posted - 2006.02.06 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Dreadnaught Yes, I am posting with a noob alt character to protect our identities until the corp is formed and our skill training is complete.
Expect the POS's to be ransomed some time 2007?
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el commandante
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Posted - 2006.02.06 14:06:00 -
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well, while the idea is sure a nice one, i dont think you will be able to get someone to pay for dreads. while a pos brings only a few millions of income a month with alot of work, noone will pay you billions for dreads. at least i wouldnt.
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Lord Dreadnaught
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Posted - 2006.02.06 14:09:00 -
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Our pilots currently already have all the required skills to fly the dreadnaughts.
By the end of February we will all have jump drive to level 5 and will extend our jump range considerably with the advanced jump skills. We have chosen to hold off our attacks till this time.
Order of Loyola POS's will be our first targets if you have any. Anyone sending me information on their POS locations will be granted protection.
Originally by: hamishoo7
Originally by: Lord Dreadnaught Yes, I am posting with a noob alt character to protect our identities until the corp is formed and our skill training is complete.
Expect the POS's to be ransomed some time 2007?
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Kery Nysell
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Posted - 2006.02.06 14:10:00 -
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Oh noes, not another variation on the "bully" theme ...
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Lord Dreadnaught
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Posted - 2006.02.06 14:14:00 -
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We already have our dreads. Our clients will be paying for our fuel and a service fee.
Now that the large towers cost over 300 million to replace, it will be a costly loss to any corporation. The loss of production and future sales will be even most costly.
Originally by: el commandante well, while the idea is sure a nice one, i dont think you will be able to get someone to pay for dreads. while a pos brings only a few millions of income a month with alot of work, noone will pay you billions for dreads. at least i wouldnt.
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Fridge oblivion
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Posted - 2006.02.06 14:46:00 -
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WOOF WOOF
BITE ME
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hamishoo7
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Posted - 2006.02.06 15:08:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Dreadnaught Order of Loyola POS's will be our first targets if you have any. Anyone sending me information on their POS locations will be granted protection.
Will that be before or after you are stealing ore from our cans?
Seriously, I'm all for innovative ideas but I can see a few drawbacks:
1. Not exactly a mobile fleet - you'd have to be right on top of your target before they knew what hit them or they'd simply pack up and move out.
2. If you're planning on targetting medium/small sized corps they're not going to have much to pay and aren't likely to fall for the same trick twice.
3. If you go against any corp that's affiliated with an alliance you may find that you're a nice target for them.
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Scarlet Pimpernel
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Posted - 2006.02.06 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: Scarlet Pimpernel on 06/02/2006 16:00:11
Originally by: Lord Dreadnaught By the end of February, a new pirate order will be formed. Gate camping and belt ransoming is a thing of the past. Welcome to the new age of piracy!
POS Ransoming and POS Removal!
I am forming a new pirate corp of dreadnaught pilots to terrorize empire based POS's. Your precious POS's will be at the mercy of the mighty Dreadnaught!
You will be given the option of paying a monthly protecting fee or watching your investment and income destroyed.
We will also be contracting out our services to your enemies and competitors. No longer will you be able to hoard all the good moons.
A large heavily armed POS will be taken into reinforced mode in 30 minutes or less. You can expect a minimum fleet of 10 dreads plus sentry drones to attack your POS.
Prepare for the carnage!
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Yes, I am posting with a noob alt character to protect our identities until the corp is formed and our skill training is complete.
Am I the only one thinking that Dreadnaughts can't go above 0.4 space? (you know with 0.5 being Empire space and all)
Lord Dreadnaught - Member of Royal Amar Institute for less than a day
Wont be you flying the dreads then will it!
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hamishoo7
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Posted - 2006.02.06 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: hamishoo7 on 06/02/2006 16:13:43 Me too, maybe in high sec he means > 0.0.
Originally by: lord dreadnaught A large heavily armed POS will be taken into reinforced mode in 30 minutes or less. You can expect a minimum fleet of 10 dreads plus sentry drones to attack your POS.
I'm sure the sentry drones will make a world of difference.
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pshepherd
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Posted - 2006.02.06 16:41:00 -
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aren't using drones against a POS still counted as an exploit since it skrews with the POS guns?
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hamishoo7
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Posted - 2006.02.06 16:45:00 -
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Think that was fixed and I believe it was only light drones.
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Malicious Style
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Posted - 2006.02.06 16:47:00 -
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I suppose if by "Empire" you mean anything non 0.0 this might have a possibility of working. But last I heard dreads couldn't jump into >.4
Still, seems a horribly inefficient use of assets. You're going to spend 20B on dreads to terrorize a bunch of empire POS runners?
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Lord Dreadnaught
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Posted - 2006.02.06 17:40:00 -
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I take it you have never seen a fleet of dreads at work.
Ask the mighty Stain- Alliance how long there large POS's equiped with all guns lasted to the might of the mere 6 dreads in FAT. I believe that all 5 or 6 of their POS's were brought into reinforced mode in mere hours with no dreads lost.
Originally by: Fridge oblivion 30 minutes, make me laugth
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Lord Dreadnaught
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Posted - 2006.02.06 17:44:00 -
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It's also horribly inefficent to use 100 million isk battleships to camp gates and kill shuttles, but it still happens every day.
When money is no object anymore, the rich find new fun ways to keep the game interesting. It's time to bring terror back into .4 to .1 again. The days of sitting in your POS bubbles feeling safe and secure are over.
Originally by: Malicious Style Still, seems a horribly inefficient use of assets. You're going to spend 20B on dreads to terrorize a bunch of empire POS runners?
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Gretchen Dawntreader
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Posted - 2006.02.06 17:48:00 -
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I agree...if you have the assets to maintain a big fleet of dreads with fuel needs and etc, then why not become a legitimate corp instead of going for petty ransoms.
Also sometime in the first month you'd pretty much guaranteed **** off the wrong ally of the wrong alliance and be hunted down with extreme prejudice. Hard to hide in a fleet of Dreads.
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Lord Dreadnaught
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Posted - 2006.02.06 17:50:00 -
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10+ dreadnaughts fielding 5 sentry drones each and each sentry drone with the ability to have 700+ damage wrecking shot. 50 sentry drones doing a crappy 200 damage is still 10,000 damage a volley. No need to worry about tracking. The POS isn't moving.
The key is to get the POS into reinforced mode and quickly as possible and get out before a counter attack can be arrive.
Originally by: hamishoo7 I'm sure the sentry drones will make a world of difference.
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hamishoo7
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Posted - 2006.02.06 18:02:00 -
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I don't doubt the ability to take down a POS quick enough but if you start on one and then have to make jumps to other systems to take down the corps other stations it'll take a bit of logistics.
What sort of ransom/protection fee are you planning on asking for?
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Lord Dreadnaught
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Posted - 2006.02.06 18:04:00 -
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Not a mobile fleet? Do some research on dreads please. A fleet of dreads is the ultimate in mobility. We can be 20+ jumps away from a POS and be there in seconds. All it takes is a character in a frigate with a field generator to be in the system that we want to go to.
By the time a response fleet gets mobilized, we can jump another 20+ jumps away. Sure, the beacons are a dead giveaway to where we went and things will get hot at times but it sure will be a lot of fun.
As far as making enemies, we expect to make lots of enemies. If you look at any alliance in Eve, you will see corps fighting side by side that used to be mortal enemies. Enemies can suddenly be your best friend when the need arises.
Also, it's just a small step from a dread to a carrier so if things get too hot you can expect to see 10+ carriers show up instead.
Originally by: hamishoo7
1. Not exactly a mobile fleet - you'd have to be right on top of your target before they knew what hit them or they'd simply pack up and move out.
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Adam Weishaupt
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Posted - 2006.02.06 18:19:00 -
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I wholeheartedly endorse creative acts of piracy. It might sound stupid, but I'd love to see if this works. It's piracy of a higher order! Let's see some results.
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minnmirman
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Posted - 2006.02.06 18:49:00 -
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I agree, this is great, but Lord arent you a pretty new char?
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Lord Dreadnaught
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Posted - 2006.02.06 19:25:00 -
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I guess you missed this part of my post:
"Yes, I am posting with a noob alt character to protect our identities until the corp is formed and our skill training is complete."
As some have said above, this operation does require logistics and preparation. I will not post with my dread pilot until we are ready to begin our destruction. At this time, we are moving dread fuel to a number of strategic locations, scouting regions and preparing our battle plans.
Originally by: minnmirman I agree, this is great, but Lord arent you a pretty new char?
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Ishen Villone
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Posted - 2006.02.06 19:43:00 -
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I hear dreadnoughts are more or less ineffective against smaller targets. Wouldn't this fleet be vulnerable to packs of angry frigates and cruisers?
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Geanina
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Posted - 2006.02.06 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ishen Villone I hear dreadnoughts are more or less ineffective against smaller targets. Wouldn't this fleet be vulnerable to packs of angry frigates and cruisers?
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Erfnam
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Posted - 2006.02.06 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ishen Villone I hear dreadnoughts are more or less ineffective against smaller targets. Wouldn't this fleet be vulnerable to packs of angry frigates and cruisers?
Yup...but they can jump away...just have some one keep refreshing the map to see where they go. A few angry fleets could ransom the dreads in the form of jump fuel. --
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Lord Dreadnaught
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Posted - 2006.02.06 20:47:00 -
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Yes, frigates are good at scrambling the dreads so they can't jump and can hold a dread until reinforcements arrive. You just have to get your frigate there as soon as the dread leave siege mode. Dreads are immune to EW while they are in siege mode.
There are ways around this problem such as positioning your dreads so that they are in different locations around the POS bubble. This will put range between your dreads and allow the dreads to protect each other. Another option is to have one carrier arrive with the dreads. You can then assign the fighters to a dread pilot and let the fighters take care of the hostiles. Also the sentry drones can be used for protection.
Originally by: Ishen Villone I hear dreadnoughts are more or less ineffective against smaller targets. Wouldn't this fleet be vulnerable to packs of angry frigates and cruisers?
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Lord Dreadnaught
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: Erfnam
Originally by: Ishen Villone I hear dreadnoughts are more or less ineffective against smaller targets. Wouldn't this fleet be vulnerable to packs of angry frigates and cruisers?
Yup...but they can jump away...just have some one keep refreshing the map to see where they go. A few angry fleets could ransom the dreads in the form of jump fuel.
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Karash Amerius
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Posted - 2006.02.06 21:08:00 -
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I like it.
Its creative, bold, and challenging.
Good luck!
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Twin blade
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Posted - 2006.02.06 22:19:00 -
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I would like to see this work but i get the feeling since most POS owner's are ally's with each other i can see a whole load of BS's runing all over hunting your dread's down.
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Yurameki Daishun
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Posted - 2006.02.06 22:39:00 -
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precisely how did you plan to find POS of a particular corp if they didn't send them to you??
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