Not getting changed?
You might want to try to fly one on Sisi right now, and try to go more than 3 systems through gates.
Then get back to me on how they are not being changed in 3 weeks.

Geddon.. One of the most useful battleships there is.

And because of this you avoid solo battleship pvp? What do you think would change that?

If you had bothered to really try out the changes you would realize that Battleships are dead. No one is going to roam in a ship that warps almost as slow as a freighter. The defense force doesn't even have to form until your a jump or two away.

Battleships will be relegated to Home Defense, and ratting...

Titan drops

Ya, we are going to roll our Mach fleet, hotdrop someone twenty jumps away and then spend an hour flying back, sounds like fun right? Right?

Battleships are designed for large fleets, and that is where they shine. Like a huge herd of Wilderbeest their best defense is to form a huge blob and stick together.

However in their own or in small groups, packs of smaller more agile ships will make mincemeat of them.

Outside of sov-nullsec fleet doctrines battleships probably don't see much use outside of PVE, with the exception of the black-ops ships. Certainly, I haven't PVP'd with in a battleship since I left sov-null.

This is incorrect. They were not designed for large fleets. All ships shine in large fleets. Battleships are the only subcap that have cap like penalties and no subcap advantages. They're the only subcap combat ship that can't solo, small gang pvp well.

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In essence....I like big pretty ships. I want to be able to use them for more.

The warp changes are going to hurt the BS game that is for sure.

As a new player I used the dominix primarily for several reasons. The main reason is that it was a fairly cheap purchase at 46 million isk, they now sell for 150+ million isk. As a low skill point character I was able to use energy vampires or neuts and still be combat effective with ogre 2 drones, it had a great tank.

I used a dominix to tackle shrikes titan during the old campaign on my alt, and anders the famous PL pirate also used a dominix for pvp before the energy vampire nerf.


These days battleships are too slow, and expensive to bring out in pvp, no fleet commanders want them in low sec or factions. I wouldn't bother spending the isk to bring one out for solo pvp, I can't enter any plexes besides a large, and large plexes are rare.

I'd just rather fly something else, like a stealth bomber, or a tech 3 cruiser.

Battleships are pretty much where they can be. Turining them into "solo" ships is ignoring the history of why they are the way they are now.

They are strategic tools, they occupy the niche between Caps and sub caps in the same way that Battlecruisers occupy the gap between cruisers and battleships.

If you want a solo capable "big ship", battlecursiers are as good as it's going to get. As it shold be. Small ships are raiders, big ships need support.