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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17220
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Posted - 2013.11.02 08:19:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Why not, drone assist fleets usually use a lot of sentry drones, what better way to make use of this high-damage sentry drone damage feature than a doctrine that uses lots of sentry drone damage
idgi
You have to figure out what causes it first, and when you do, it'll be patched awayGǪ 
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Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
63
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Posted - 2013.11.02 08:36:00 -
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Quick question, were there any heavy or other drones from the offending party out? |
Dusty Daisy
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.02 08:44:00 -
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Might not be related but i just had one of my sentry drones hit for 2 damage on a structure i was trying to destroy. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17220
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Posted - 2013.11.02 08:55:00 -
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Dusty Daisy wrote:Might not be related but i just had one of my sentry drones hit for 2 damage on a structure i was trying to destroy.
That sounds wrong too, but in the exact opposite direction. The lowest possible damage multiplier you're supposed to be able to have is +ù0.5. Unless your sentries do somewhere around 10 HP base damage and/or the structure had some pretty insane resists (they never do), such a low damage shouldn't be possible either.
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Kenrailae
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
39
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Posted - 2013.11.02 09:01:00 -
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Evangelina Nolen wrote:Quick question, were there any heavy or other drones from the offending party out?
Heavy drones are pretty useless for an ishtar based kiting sentry drone fleet. While I'm not a member of PL, I'd also imagine they don't do mixing flights of drones when there is no reason to.
So without being 100% certain as there were many drones, wrecks, ships, and lags on the Sun, but reasonably sure all the same, no, I do not believe there were heavy drones being deployed by the ishtar fleet.
The Law is a point of View |
Dusty Daisy
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.02 09:06:00 -
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it might have been 20, no idea if that means it is normal though as they usually hit for a few hundred and over 1k wrecking shots so it stood out.
it was in optimal range. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17220
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Posted - 2013.11.02 09:16:00 -
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Kenrailae wrote:Also would depend on the fall off/Optimal yeah? If they were at edge of range, they could very well have done tiny amounts of DPS just because of Fall off.
No. Falloff and tracking only ever affects your chance to hit. The actual damage done depends on your hit quality, which, while related is something completely different.
Your hit quality is essentially the roll of your to-hit die + 0.5. If you have a chance to hit of, say, 0.4 because of falloff or tracking, die rolls of 0.01GÇô0.40 will result in hit qualities (i.e. damage multipliers) of +ù0.51GÇô0.9, and die rolls higher than that will result in complete misses. Being far into falloff means you deal less damage, statistically, but that's because you hit so rarely and because those rare hits get their damage halved GÇö not because your damage is absolutely minute.
For a sentry drone with a base damage of, say, 160 after resists (i.e. 640 base vs 80% resists) to only do 2 HP damage, the final hit quality would have to be 0.0125, which means the die roll would have had to be -0.4875 on a scale from 0 to 1.
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Lupo diCotze
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.02 09:31:00 -
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Evangelina Nolen wrote:Quick question, were there any heavy or other drones from the offending party out?
A few hobs & warriors on the killmail |
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
191
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Posted - 2013.11.02 10:29:00 -
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As someone else already said; this looks to be another bug with Hull hits, although I think it's an even more severe effect than those I've been aware of previously. (Farjung's Freighter kill (which is probably the best known incident if only because it was captured on video) ramped his blasters up to 10k or so per shot IIRC an order of magnitude lesser effect than this one).
The loss is petitionable and I would expect the ship to be reimbursed based on the data the OP has provided.
P.S. Hair-trigger posters... LOL. |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1058
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Posted - 2013.11.02 10:30:00 -
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I too want a sentry that does Titan sized damage 
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Poultergoose4
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
15
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Posted - 2013.11.02 10:31:00 -
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To the obviously illiterate people in here who cannot read the OP's first post. This has nothing to do with Drone assisting in any shape or form.
It is a case of 1 sentry doing ~121,000 damage while another sentry did ~129,000 damage, this is not over a period of time as many of you seem to be under the impression. This was just 1 shot from each. But if you think there is honestly nothing wrong with 'A' (not a group of assigned) sentry drone somehow managing to do more dps than a sieged moros gun, you're wrong.
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Gridloader
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.11.02 11:39:00 -
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Is this topic a joke?
Some tard post some **** and other tards follow?
Combat Logs = joke
Video "proof" = joke
Lemmings scream = joke
Archon on joke video destroyed at 00:47
Combat logs from some ***** 00:44
Killmail..... Raptor shooting Torpedos
Some *** put ****....
Other *** RETARDS scream....
What a ****** forum.... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17221
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Posted - 2013.11.02 11:53:00 -
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Gridloader wrote:Archon on joke video destroyed at 00:47
Combat logs from some ***** 00:44
Killmail..... Raptor shooting Torpedos And? The timestamp matches the video, and if you haven't seen KMs showing the wrong weapons (or even the wrong ships), you have never seen a killmail.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Gridloader
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.11.02 11:55:00 -
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dude stfu and gtfo
you are ******** |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17222
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Posted - 2013.11.02 11:56:00 -
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Gridloader wrote:dude stfu and gtfo
you are ********
So you have nothing coherent and relevant to add, and agree that something fairly problematic is going on here. Got it.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Gridloader
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.11.02 11:57:00 -
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only problem here are retards like you |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17222
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Posted - 2013.11.02 12:01:00 -
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Gridloader wrote:only problem here are retards like me
So you can't actually point to anything that's supposedly out of order (well, aside from the obvious problems presented in the OP, of course) or present any kind of logic for why it could be just some minor glitch, and agree that something fairly problematic is going on. Got it.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Gridloader
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.11.02 12:07:00 -
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Dude you are ******....
This KM is from 2different engagements.... Thats why Ishtars have double dmg counted and raptor shooting torpedos....
Logs are not Archon ones but maybe even capsule....
And Logs... I may write there what ever I want...
And YES YOU ARE ******** |
Mra Rednu
Black Watch Guard
441
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Posted - 2013.11.02 12:17:00 -
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WTB a pod which needs 2 hits like that to kill. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
17222
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Posted - 2013.11.02 12:18:00 -
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Gridloader wrote:This KM is from 2different engagements.... You mean the KM from 00:44? The one that matches the logs that show a ship destruction at 00:44? The one that matches the video showing 00:44?
Quote:Thats why Ishtars have double dmg counted and raptor shooting torpedos.... GǪbecause killmails have never shown incorrect data ever, especially as far as ships and weapons used are involved.
Quote:Logs are not Archon ones but maybe even capsule.... GǪand you know this, how? Is it because your capsule regularly takes 4,000 HP (not counting the hundreds of thousands from the odd hits in question) to kill before going Gǣout of controlGǥ and then being subject to scrambling?
That's a lot of baseless and contradictory claims that don't actually show anything wrong with what the OP presents. Instead, you offer only abuse, which leads to the conclusion that you can't present any kind of logic for why it could be just some minor glitch, and agree that something fairly problematic is going on GÇö that's why you have to go for the ad hominem instead. Got it.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Gridloader
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.11.02 12:35:00 -
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...dude just stop posting... you are idiot |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.11.02 12:37:00 -
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Gridloader wrote:...dude just stop posting... you are idiot
So you can't actually point to anything wrong with the presented data or provide any kind of logic for why it could be just some minor glitch, and agree that something fairly problematic is going on. Got it.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Jassmin Joy
Oblivion Watch
HYDRA RELOADED
212
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Posted - 2013.11.02 13:06:00 -
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it's not two different fights iwasthereGäó
it was a pretty crazy fight, the guy with a raptor shooting torps clearly came back in a raptor after his first ship died, but you already know all this and i'm just replying to a troll. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate
WHY so Seri0Us
2321
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Posted - 2013.11.02 13:09:00 -
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Tippia wrote:So here's a question for you DinsdaleGǪ Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Please explain for the less literate of us how 5 Sentry drones do 121 K raw alpha, let alone modified alpha. GǪwhy are you biting his head off over saying that people don't seem to understand the problem that is being presented? He's agreeing with you and you get very aggressive over this fact. AlsoGǪ Quote:Clearly, this thread has zero to do with drone assists, but like an desperately lonely , social misfit of a drunk at a party , you have to insert some statement out of left field into the conversation.
If you were not so destructive, I would pity you. GǪwhy did you see fit to make the same error he did and then, once again, aggressively abuse him for no good reason? All you're doing is making it more likely for the thread to be locked and to ensure that the error is left unaddressed. Put another way, could you please stop being on my side on this because you're not helping.
What is this, "White Knights 'R' Us"? Get back on topic. You know better than that, Tippia.
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Save the Domi model! Spacewhales should be preserved. |
Alice Saki
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
96433
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Posted - 2013.11.02 13:13:00 -
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Sentries to Stronk!
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Nathalie LaPorte
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
182
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Posted - 2013.11.02 13:51:00 -
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Tippia wrote:So here's a question for you DinsdaleGǪ Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Please explain for the less literate of us how 5 Sentry drones do 121 K raw alpha, let alone modified alpha. GǪwhy are you biting his head off over saying that people don't seem to understand the problem that is being presented? He's agreeing with you and you get very aggressive over this fact.
He probably thought I was only agreeing with him to facilitate some nefarious plot involving null-sec cartels, RMT, and the illicit trading of kittens. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5071
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Posted - 2013.11.02 14:14:00 -
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I'll let you know after our next 1000 drone assist fleets if many members have experienced doing massive damage to enemies with their sentries.
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Eram Fidard
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
440
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Posted - 2013.11.02 14:26:00 -
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Gridloader wrote:...dude just stop posting... you are idiot
Quit projecting your feelings of personal stupidity and inadequacy onto Tippia. You are wrong.
Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
6216
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Posted - 2013.11.02 14:34:00 -
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Gridloader wrote:...dude just stop posting... you are idiot
Did you like this post with your alt?
EVE Online - A Rigged Game |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5073
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Posted - 2013.11.02 14:53:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Gridloader wrote:...dude just stop posting... you are idiot Did you like this post with your alt?
some people like overly obvious trolls
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
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