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TharOkha
0asis Group
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Posted - 2013.11.04 14:39:00 -
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Great.... Another SOMER rage thread. Now in pink color. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldnt the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

oOReikaOo Michiko
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.11.04 14:41:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:Nicky Yo does have a point about the kids who get into that gambling. I can see someone getting addicted to the Eve gambling, then it spreading to other forms of gambling in real life. Is it CCPs fault? Dunno, but I think it should be looked into to see if there is something that can help those who might get addicted.
Gateway gambling.. gateway drugs... gateway hugging (yes there are schools that do not let u hug in the US cause it may lead to sex one day...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfSDNPFCPfY |

Frying Doom
3202
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Posted - 2013.11.04 14:51:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:
lol.. You see what Frying Doom is doing, or trying to do is apply Laws which are designed for gambling sites using Real Money to virtual items.
In the UK there are no Laws to goven the use of virtual items being used for gamling or for anything because its is incredibly difficult to assign a real life value to a virtual item.
The act that Frying Doom keeps referring to was brought into law to regulate Casinos and Betting Companies as well as other compaines who began to make gambling available on the internet.
It has and continues to has no relevance to MMO's and virtual items.
The other legal issue which Frying Doom also continues to ignore is that whether the user of said virtual item actually owns it.
Most if not all companies make it clear that users only have a licence to the virtual goods and the licence is terminated if they breach those terms.
This means if a user sells a virtual good on the secondary market, the licence terminates and the items becomes worthless.
Additionally, if a user's violation of the terms of service, their account may be terminated.
By having this licence provision, the games company does not need to reimburse the user for any virtual good.
You see this means that if anybody sells any virtual item, lets say Isk, Ships, Mods, BPO's, then the virtual items inherently has no real life value as you have broken the terms and conditions of the EULA and TOS.
This is completely introspective of what you might have paid for it.
Blah Blah Blah
you missed the fact that with the winnings you can buy a plex and pay for your game time, which is a real life service. Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |

Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2013.11.04 14:59:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:
This is completely introspective of what you might have paid for it Blah Blah Blah
you missed the fact that with the winnings you can buy a plex and pay for your game time, which is a real life service.
Sorry but it doesn't work that way 
You are using a virtual item which was designed to be used in a computer game to gamble with and you can only win virtual items which are designed to be used in a computer game.
At no point has any of the virtual items that we are talking about have been designed primarily used for gambling.
I can only talk about UK Laws, I have no idea how this would work in other countries however I would wager ( ) that since there is no real life currency involved at any point and that none of the virtual items were designed with the express purpose of gambling with, then they couldn't careless.
Of course you could like I suggested in a previous thread and contact the relevant government gambling enforcement department of your country and put in an official complaint, but we all know you wont do that because you would be laughed at 
Of course you can and will continue to be Internet Lawyer and come up with arguments like blah blah blah but hey, this is the Eve O forums where Internet Lawyering and looking like a crazy person comes hand in hand  |

Prince Kobol
1095
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Posted - 2013.11.04 15:01:00 -
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sorry double post |

Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
12
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Posted - 2013.11.04 15:08:00 -
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It's not gambling, you buy a service and you receive Blink credit and then you turn that Blink credit into ISK. Blink credit is worthless except as Blink says. ISK is all owned by CCP.
Your assets are never at risk at all, except as defined in the game as 'your assets'. But you don't have any real life assets at risk.
You say, "But they'll buy more and more GTCs, isn't that risk?"
That's buying too much stuff, not gambling. There is no risk involved at all - they pay and there is no way they get anything out of it. What they get out of it is either Blink credit or owned by CCP. |

NickyYo
FrogCorp Holy Frog
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Posted - 2013.11.04 15:24:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:It's not gambling, you buy a service and you receive Blink credit and then you turn that Blink credit into ISK. Blink credit is worthless except as Blink says. ISK is all owned by CCP.
Your assets are never at risk at all, except as defined in the game as 'your assets'. But you don't have any real life assets at risk.
You say, "But they'll buy more and more GTCs, isn't that risk?"
That's buying too much stuff, not gambling. There is no risk involved at all - they pay and there is no way they get anything out of it. What they get out of it is either Blink credit or owned by CCP.
So people didn't get holidays to vegas out of it then? .. |
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CCP Dolan
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.04 15:34:00 -
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Locking this thread for violation of :
Quote:Rule 31. Rumor mongering is prohibited.
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