@Careby - feel free to send your chunk whenever you are ready as I will be coming to separate arrangements with flakeys and VV (although I'll track both in this thread).

Thanks Careby!

All isk has now been received. I did a little bit of exploratory playing around with the first half of the isk for an hour in a quiet period in Jita yesterday afternoon and updated my orders once this morning (c. 15 mins). Net profit so far is over a billion .

I'll report back in a week with news from the front.

Impressive, indeed.

Keep up the good work ;)

To quote an oldie : You ain't seen nothing yet ....

...The strategy I'm following could yield about 4-5bil a day...

To quote an oldie : You ain't seen nothing yet ....

Seriously, though, this bond won't see the kind of massive profits I have aimed at in the past. I have very limited objectives this time (c. 10bil a month); just enough to cover interest, plexes and ships to lose, plus a little extra on the side. The strategy I'm following could yield about 4-5bil a day ...

One day I'll learn how to do that heart thing Grendell does, but in the meantime - HUG. But just in case you have your mind set on 'backroom dealings' bear in mind that this is a platonic hug.

Wow, your strategy could potentially yield 120-150 B ISK in a month, and yet, no one find it odd that you are asking for 30 B.

Why would they find that odd? The strategy could yield 120-150bil a month ...

Well, I find it odd. You can make the bond amount in a week, yet you are here asking for the ISK. In the past, Bonds that claimed such great returns have been dismissed as "too good to be true".


I find it odd that no one ask why bother when you can make the ISK in a week.

Because to make the isk in a week I first have to have the bond. And just because the strategy can earn enough to make that isk in a week doesn't mean that I am going to grind for six to eight hours a day when I neither need to nor want to.

A few other things to bear in mind:

Firstly, I didn't mention what returns the strategy could potentially produce until after the bond was filled, so the bond wasn't sold on the basis of those profit levels (indeed, I wasn't really sure about potential maximum profit levels until after I had received some isk and had played around with the plan a little bit). Rather, as the OP states, my objective is to earn 10bil a month and the bond was filled by people expecting those actual returns, not larger merely potential returns that will never materialise.

Secondly, since I have a documented history of producing similar profit levels in the past (not quite as high but pretty close), I don't see why anyone would be particularly sceptical about my ability to do so in the present.

Thirdly, as I mention in the OP, I am being assisted in the current plan by Rykker Bow's encyclopedic knowledge of Jita trading and he has a documented history of hitting exactly such profit levels in the past (the coincidence of the potential profit levels I mention and his historical profit levels is ... well ... not a coincidence).

I suspect the lack of suspicion directed towards this bond is also partly due to the fact that I have held greater public debt in the past and that this level of borrowing represents a decrease rather than an increase in potential risk levels.

And still, all those words can't explain how someone that makes such marvelous profits does not have 30B ISK. Yes, very odd.

Odd, strange, unusual, weird, pick your word.

It is strange for anyone who makes 120-150 B ISK a month come here and ask for 30 B ISK. You claim you gave all your ISK away, which again is unusual. Most people I know keep a bit of ISK in case they want to come back.


I think you too will find it strange.

Well, I find it odd. You can make the bond amount in a week, yet you are here asking for the ISK. In the past, Bonds that claimed such great returns have been dismissed as "too good to be true".


I find it odd that no one ask why bother when you can make the ISK in a week.

I don't 'make 120-150bil a month'. Please stop making claims on my behalf and then acting as if it was me who made them.

The strategy I'm following could yield about 4-5bil a day ...

Why would they find that odd? The strategy could yield 120-150bil a month ...

The strategy could yield 120-150bil a month, in theory, if I had nothing better to do with my time, if I had 30-40bil of start-up capital. Without the isk I have raised through this bond to run that plan the plan will yield precisely nothing. In any case, the plan as it will actually be operated will probably only yield 10-20bil per month as that is all I currently want.

Wow, your strategy could potentially yield 120-150 B ISK in a month, and yet, no one find it odd that you are asking for 30 B.

Wow - you manage to combine maliciousness and deceit with a deep-seated stupidity at the same time. That's a pretty impressive set of negative qualities you are displaying.

I don't think so. You claimed you could make 4-5 B a day not me. I simply extrapolated your claim to a one month period, so it shows the magnitude of your claim, which seems unreal.

I simply extrapolated your claim to a one month period

I ... extrapolated your claim

I ... extrapolated

Yes. YOU extrapolated a claim ...

Edit - I'm also very sorry if these kind of potential earnings seem unreal to you. I know that they match up with the kind of figures your own business was posting as annual earnings using more than ten times the capital. But your inability to grasp what can be done with the markets in EvE is not my responsibility. If it's any consolation, I'm sure your earnings didn't require you to grind more than five hours a day, which is what these potential profit levels would conservatively need.

You forgot to say, that in all these years he never accepted to be audited once.

This lack of transparency, considering the hundreds of investor billions held for so many years, does not really entitle to go count the beans in somebody else's home.

Yes I extrapolated YOUR claim to build a reasonable question. There is no need for you to be so condescending and arrogant.

Just wanted to drop in to say good luck over the two months.

On a somewhat-related note, I do find it kind of weird that more people don't make the transition from borrower to lender as they get wealthier/more experienced, this thread being an example. With imperfect corp security, Eve market activity/industry only scale so far.

Wow, your strategy could potentially yield 120-150 B ISK in a month, and yet, no one find it odd that you are asking for 30 B.

I did hit 2 bil a moment ago though