I've a few business plans that can generate roughly 100b in profits per month but that does not mean I have the capital on hand to put them into action.

... it is quite tricky becoming a lender who holds their own collateral as you have to be trusted not to run off with it.

Isn't that just evidence that the self-held collateralized lending business on MD isn't competitive? Anyone could solve that problem by offering higher collateral valuation (or requiring less collateral). The longstanding MD practice of valuing BPOs at NPC value in particular could be Exhibit A.

(Not that I'm biased and have a giant stack of researched BPOs I like using as collateral. No sir.)

In case you have not noticed BSAC is closed.

Perhaps, he should give me his key so I can audit him.

LOL just got to laugh at this thread. All the MD Elite are here about to rake in billions and make it look easy while giving people a chance to make some easy isk and there are questions about the credibility of RAW23.

I'm just disappointed I did get in on the bond ah well maybe next time.

There is allways room to doubt someones credibility , yes even that of RAW because end of the line anyone is a potential scammer .I would never dare say that Raw or for that part grendell is a 100 % safe investment even though i trust them enough to loan reasonable amounts.

There is allways room to doubt someones credibility , yes even that of RAW because end of the line anyone is a potential scammer .I would never dare say that Raw or for that part grendell is a 100 % safe investment even though i trust them enough to loan reasonable amounts.


The funny thing here is not THAT his credibility is being discussed but WHO is discussing it.

If one of them scammed, for me it'd be a terrible blow. I could not care the less to lose 100B or 200B over them, per se but I'd be so devastated by the person betrayal that I am not sure I would keep playing.

Flakeys is quite right. There should be questions and I shouldn't get a free pass because of my background. One of the biggest dangers the investment market has suffered from in the past is a lack of oversight and an unwillingness to challenge the Old Guard. I don't even have a problem with Block doing the challenging or asking the questions, despite knowing that this comes from an old grudge rather than any real concern for the investment.

The issue I have with his posts in this thread is a) that they attempt to indirectly insinuate things without having the courage to actually say what he means, and b) that when we do get to the bottom of what he means, most of it just doesn't make any sense (by which I mean that it is devoid of logic). I should have become used to this by now as Block is pretty notorious for being unable to string two thoughts together coherently in a post but I'm afraid I let my anger get the best of me last night and responded to his posts in a way that gave them greater credence than they deserved.

In short, scrutiny is just as important on large bonds raised by experienced people as it is on small bonds raised by the inexperienced.

You don't seem to take my comment very well. Like I explained before, my comment was based on YOUR claim. No need to be so extreme.



How about you give the API of all your characters and I'll audit your bond?

I didn't like your comments because they didn't make sense. You have serious problems with logic and language that make it extremely frustrating to communicate with you. Unfortunately, my frustration at dealing with irrational statements got the better of me last night and I made the mistake of trying to point out the errors in your thinking to you. I won't waste my time doing that again because you don't seem willing to learn.

As to the audit, please stop trolling Block. Why would I give my api to someone with a history of deceitful behaviour and an obvious grudge against me? Oh, and someone who has spent his career trying to avoid audits by claiming that audits are of no use?

I'm not trolling about the audit. How about you give me your API key to audit you?


It's a very simple question; yes or no will do.

Of course I won't. You have a documented history of public deception, you have deliberately misrepresented me in this thread, and you are not a very rationally competent individual. I have no idea why you would even begin to think that I would allow you to carry out an audit. It's a ridiculous request and can only be classified as trolling.

So I ask a question and now I'm trolling. I knew you would come up with some excuses not to give me your API key. I suppose it's ok to audit anyone but you.

I have done audits before and I can do the audit myself. And, I won't charge you a penny.


Contrary to what you keep posting about me, I have been respectful to you. You on the other hand keep calling me names in an attempt to silence me; a very typical bully behavior.


I'll see you on your next bond,
Block Ukx

I'll see you on your next bond,

If you want to pay for me to be audited and can find someone trustworthy with a solid history of carrying out audits I am more than happy to go ahead with one. Again. Like my previous two audits.

Hasn't Block refused audits on his business in the past? What is he on about here?

If you want I can performance audit you (for free). As I said above I can't believably deliver a "full" audit because I am emotionally involved but performance data parses are quite objective and could still hold some value.

This assuming you took a "relaxed" stance towards trading, ATM I can't spend 2-3 hours a day just gathering your data like I used to do once, I can max run the software once a day, better every 2-3 days.

Thanks for the offer VV but I have always been against auditors working for free. If Block wants proof that I can earn 10bil a month then he can pay the market rate for that data. I would be surprised if anyone else doubts I can hit the target I am aiming at. After all, I was earning 2.7bil a week a month after I started playing the game, as my very first audit showed.

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30billion isk non collaterized Bond 5% not one person says it to low. Oh it ones of your palls its the old boys network. If it was you trying this , even if you had proof of being trustworthy the indigantion of these people here would be unbelievable. Absolute uproar. Kinda ironic that you wont let Block audit you after all the hassle you gave him. He asks the same of you and you refuse.

I must say i support Block Ukx been around longtime, always been honest and reasonable i believe.

Same old faces same old elites. They recommend there own non collaterized bonds and those of their friends with very low interest rates. When you try to do the same, be treated the same no you cant do that Tom. You dont deserve a low interest rate non collaterized bond you have to pay 10, 13 15 per cent. Even though you proven to them that you are trustworthy with evidence, that you have handled alot of isk not stolen it.

I remember the guys who lent me isk im grateful, i did the first ever gambling bond with poker, and MarchRabbit lent me isk for the non collaterized bond i ran at very low interest rate(3%), but only what other elites were also getting at the time. Elites they did there best to put people off from lending me the isk. Just want to be given fair shake, treated the same as others.

Im glad you guys never gave me any isk , i wouldnt take it now if you tried to force it on me. I did things my way the hardway because guys like you dont like guys like me, want to be treated fair just like everyone else. You never got any interest out of Tommy.

I made my isk i dont generally hang here no more. Hopefully ill never have to come here again asking for isk. Made me laugh to see the old elites still spouting out the same old bull.

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30billion isk non collaterized Bond 5% not one person says it to low. Oh it ones of your palls its the old boys network. If it was you trying this , even if you had proof of being trustworthy the indigantion of these people here would be unbelievable.

Kinda ironic that you wont let Block audit you after all the hassle you gave him. He asks the same of you and you refuse.

I dont think we need to worry about Block Ukx he has shown himself to be a stand up guy.

This is great chance for people looking for passive income from ivestments where 90 percent of the profits go to the investors.

Being offered by one of the Greats of MD in my opinion.

Block Ukx has been around along time and has shown himself to be a man of integrity and honesty.

He's been running a big business now for along time, paying his investors on time and without any problems.

Now there could be somethings Block doesnt want to disclose not because he is hiding anything, but just because it may potentially harm his business to do so. If thats the case youve just got to except that and move on.

I said it yesterday and ill say it today this an A+++ investment opertunity, from someone who has proven himself to be so over many years.

Block Ukx dont need no audit, thats a fact

It's not ironic at all. I never asked Block to let me audit him. Instead I offered to pay for a neutral third party to carry out an audit on his business. He refused. Well, he agreed and then he didn't do it. Given that Block has been dishonest in his dealings with me, why on earth would I let him audit me? I have actually offered the same deal that I put to him - he pays and a third party does the audit. Again, he refused. He refused because he didn't really want an audit, he just wanted to cause trouble as a form of revenge because I asked for some transparency from his business back in January 2011 (a long time to hold a petty grudge).

You have a documented history of public deception, you have deliberately misrepresented me in this thread, and you are not a very rationally competent individual.

For someone that clearly has an ability to make vast amounts of ISK, asking for a mere 30b does seem strange.

I also was surprised that for someone of your ability, you only had 400b ISK to give away.

Could you provide proof of his public history of deception that you claim exists?