Jesus Christ, someone from SMA being ********. What a shock. What the hell did you expect after 7 straight hours of ******* brawling with hundreds of carriers/supers on the field? The servers are standing on the brink, ready to take the plunge.

Yet they don't crash when there are dozens of BL supers on the field on that same exact node. Something is extremely fishy about it. You can deny it all you want. It is very suspicious.

Yet they don't crash when there are dozens of BL supers on the field. Something is extremely fishy about it. You can deny it all you want. It is very suspicious.

Yet they don't crash when there are dozens of BL supers on the field on that same exact node. Something is extremely fishy about it. You can deny it all you want. It is very suspicious.

Yet they don't crash when there are dozens of BL supers on the field. Something is extremely fishy about it. You can deny it all you want. It is very suspicious.

Yet they don't crash when there are dozens of BL supers on the field. Something is extremely fishy about it. You can deny it all you want. It is very suspicious.

Fat fingers? What you gonna blame this node crash on. If someone doesn't get fired for this then your company is even more pathetic then most of the eve community already thought.

Death to all capitals. Except PL/NC/S2N capitals. Thats CCP's new motto.

Notice where all the GF's are coming from. Nothing like sucking up to CCP like good pets.

Fat fingers? What you gonna blame this node crash on. If someone doesn't get fired for this then your company is even more pathetic then most of the eve community already thought.

Death to all capitals. Except PL/NC/S2N capitals. Thats CCP's new motto.

Fat fingers? What you gonna blame this node crash on. If someone doesn't get fired for this then your company is even more pathetic then most of the eve community already thought.

Death to all capitals. Except PL/NC/S2N capitals. Thats CCP's new motto.

Keep feeding me your tears of joy that your capitals were saved. They will fuel my ship till the next big fight.

Keep feeding me your tears of joy that your capitals were saved. They will fuel my ship till the next big fight.

Keep feeding me your tears of joy that your capitals were saved. They will fuel my ship till the next big fight.

All these massive fights in 10% tidi or shall I say .1% tidi prove is that CCP needs to find a better method of handling these 1500 man fights. Even on reinforced nodes they still crash. This fight tonight/today proved again that the current system is no longer a viable solution.

ccp, start refunding a days work for everyone involved.. and feel bad about taking our money for this ****... please take a good hard look on what you made a shitload of people commit to. ur damed bad!

All these massive fights in 10% tidi or shall I say .1% tidi prove is that CCP needs to find a better method of handling these 1500 man fights. Even on reinforced nodes they still crash. This fight tonight/today proved again that the current system is no longer a viable solution.

lol n3 victory lap thread

It was a great fight. 9 hours of an epic battle.

If CCP doesn't invest the time and money into finding a solution for this then eventually the game will become unplayable.

CCP adding player owned poco's in high sec is only continuing with their current streak of encouraging more fleet fights. The problem with that is if they don't come up with a better solution to deal with all the lag and tidi then people will eventually become discouraged from playing.

There is always gonna be the hard core players with every game but eventually people will move onto more efficiently run games. CCP has held a monopoly on the real time internet spaceship games for a long time. But it won't be that way forever if they don't keep up with the times.

I honestly can't wait for rubicon to come out. All the wonderful tidi that the high sec carebears are gonna expierence because of fleets shooting poco's in high sec is gonna cause so much headaches for CCP. I will just make popcorn and read the threads and laugh.

Goonie tears, best tears

Yay! A victory lap thread!
Thanks CCP!
gf and all the other comments.

Oh and thanks goons for all the tears on the forums. I love them more than anything.

And the tears of joy from all of the NC S2N and PL are absolute joy for me. It means we all know how happy you were that the fight ended. It wasn't looking too good for you guys there.

You can GF all you want. But if that node hadn't crashed you wouldn't be saying GF right now. Youd be trying to figure out how your gonna defend your space against all those angry russians without your capital superiority.

And for the record i'm against all node crashes. If CCP had a better way to manage these massive fights then there would be even more awesome fights. We all know there are plenty of people out there who just don't wanna spend 8 hours at their desk playing a game. If these fights could be brought down to a more manageable time frame then so many more people would join up.

And for the record i'm not a goon.

And for the record i'm not a goon.

There is a simple solution to it: You dont have to bring every person you know to every fight, and yet you choose to do this EVERY SINGLE FIGHT EVER.

Same result, and yet you continue, then complain about it.

Seems legit spacemonkey, time to send waffles back to your space

So the solution to not breaking the node is not bring people.

Yes this is an excellent solution, lets just go with a few dudes and if it isnt working out just call it a day.

So the solution to not breaking the node is not bring people.

Yes this is an excellent solution, lets just go with a few dudes and if it isnt working out just call it a day.

time to send waffles back to your space

You can GF all you want. But if that node hadn't crashed you wouldn't be saying GF right now. Youd be trying to figure out how your gonna defend your space against all those angry russians without your capital superiority.

Yet they don't crash when there are dozens of BL supers on the field. Something is extremely fishy about it. You can deny it all you want. It is very suspicious.

Eh

You'll see the people that wanted the titan to live proclaiming nothing went wrong, and the people who were killing the titan say ccp did everything wrong.

Its pretty frustrating to sit 6-7 hours on grid with barely anything working and then have everything just reset.

w/e i hope ccp fixes this

Lol seeing the biggest supercapital power in game smugging around about how the node crashed and saved their titan'n'caps
:priceless:

Oh man, uhm, like, you left out like, some pretty important words :/ if you need more time you can come back and try again it's totally cool because you took the initial post and completely rewrote it making it something completely different and now you look kinda goofy for not being able to understand simple words :(

You probably have summed this whole situation up best.

No matter what side we may or may not be on we all can agree that CCP needs to fix this. In the long run this needs to be fixed. The sooner CCP starts to invest time and money into it the better off Eve online as a whole will be. Then we can have more engagements where the largest ships in the game do battle.

You realize we didn't commit anything that can't easily be replaced, right?

Live together, die together.

Lol seeing the biggest supercapital power in game smugging around about how the node crashed and saved their titan'n'caps
:priceless:

No matter what side we may or may not be on we all can agree that CCP needs to fix this. In the long run this needs to be fixed. The sooner CCP starts to invest time and money into it the better off Eve online as a whole will be. Then we can have more engagements where the largest ships in the game do battle.

Psst, neither did we :)

I'm still not exactly sure what you expect when you dogpile 2000 people onto 1 grid with current hardware. Sure, if they the game more optimized then the 2000 people from today would have had a better time, but you're naive if you think that with better hardware the number of participants in a fight will stay the same. The better the hardware or optimization, the more people will pile into a system.

Basically I'm telling you to shut the hell up because in the reverse situation you would be thanking whatever dumb God you pray to for saving whatever dumb fleet you had stuck.

No actually i'd still be bitching at CCP for the crash. I'd be happy my colations **** got out but i'd still be pissed about the crash. The Tidi system just plain doesn't work right. Its great for the 400 to 800 man fights the servers can handle that. But the major 2000 man fights it just can't keep up.

CCP needs to start to look into a better system otherwise its only gonna get worse. They boast about their Tidi system yet it just doesn't work right. If you don't continually improve a system then eventually it will become so outdated that any upgrades will prove to be even more costly. When you hurry along an upgrade at a later date you stand the chance of something going wrong in the development so better they start working on something new now.

The current system is just no longer feasible.

Troll me all you want people. Some of you know I am bringing up some valid points.

CCP needs to start to look into a better system otherwise its only gonna get worse. They boast about their Tidi system yet it just doesn't work right.

how about you bring proper damage ships next time so you doesnt need those 1000-2000 pilots in celestis and bombers to try to accually kill something.

The node crashing was your own doing when you brought/tryed to bring 3-4 250 man fleets into a 1700 local and then went to try to bump stuff(which creates massive desync/lag)

You see, when you dogpile people into system it stresses out the servers. When you do this for 9 hours, the servers go down. Sorry you couldn't kill the titan in the allotted time, better luck next time.

There is a simple solution to it: You dont have to bring every person you know to every fight, and yet you choose to do this EVERY SINGLE FIGHT EVER.

Same result, and yet you continue, then complain about it.

Seems legit spacemonkey, time to send waffles back to your space

Or when you get PL and all of their brave pets to deploy 2k sentry drones it causes the servers to die. Nerf Drone Assist and these nodes would live. But we all know that wont happen because PL/Pets need Drone Assist to win fights.

Or when you get PL and all of their brave pets to deploy 2k sentry drones it causes the servers to die. Nerf Drone Assist and these nodes would live. But we all know that wont happen because PL/Pets need Drone Assist to win fights.

Eh

You'll see the people that wanted the titan to live proclaiming nothing went wrong, and the people who were killing the titan say ccp did everything wrong.

Its pretty frustrating to sit 6-7 hours on grid with barely anything working and then have everything just reset.

w/e i hope ccp fixes this

You can nerf drone assist and we'll still launch drones bro, sorry, we'll just follow primaries as per the usual

You can GF all you want. But if that node hadn't crashed you wouldn't be saying GF right now.

We were almost tanking with 100 slowcats on the field. If the servers held up we had another 200+ slowcats and supers ready to come back in, it goes both ways

Welcome to 0.0. Everyone has been on the bad and good side of a node crash. What did you think coalition warfare was? Next time don't pile the system with as many bodies as you can and put Solar in something other than Tengus and maybe something just might die ;)

Grath, tell this guy that fights are better when you don't BRING EVERYONE

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This post is superlegit, because Marlona posted it.
Not even sarcasm. Marlona is awesome. Let us know if you want to host another anniversary event, this coming EVE birthday...

Seriously? Those Titans were on deck for over 5 hours and you couldn't ******* kill any of them, but WAIT... "5 more minutes and we woulda' had it!"

You sound pathetic and butthurt.

Tbh Yeah.. It was gay that they reset it .. and yeah you wouldent have lost all those supers.. But you would have lost alot more carriers we did kinda get the short stick.. Everytime something started working for a 30 second window we were volleying carriers.. so yeah you woulda got some stuff out but it would cost you about 30 carriers.. but alas ccp
Meh.. Still find it funny though how with all that crap you cant seem to to much in this little war you started?

Tbh Yeah.. It was gay that they reset it .. and yeah you wouldent have lost all those supers.. But you would have lost alot more carriers we did kinda get the short stick.. Everytime something started working for a 30 second window we were volleying carriers.. so yeah you woulda got some stuff out but it would cost you about 30 carriers.. but alas ccp
Meh.. Still find it funny though how with all that crap you cant seem to to much in this little war you started?

If someone doesn't get fired for this then your company is even more pathetic then most of the eve community already thought.

6VDT felt smoother than these fights down here though- would the parties ~directly invloved~ please request your timers to be reinforced. Thanks in advance.

Yeah like i said in the beginning of the thread, n3 will be rejoicing/smugging at their get out of jail free card while the rest will be complaining.

i wish i could be smug about node restarts :(

unless not being able to turn on/off mods is considered "useful time on field"

im sure that "but you had 6 hours" point is legit though, since im just bad at eve

edit: forgot to mention NC.

tbh it kinda made me chuckle when i thought about it

Nights like tonight are quit worthy. Ruins the entire point of the game to have Tidi. Lean to ******* fix it dynamically without crashing the server or just ******* delete this ******** game.

Absolutely not, you bring all these dudes, you deal with what you create, never reinforcing any nodes

Fat fingers? What you gonna blame this node crash on. If someone doesn't get fired for this then your company is even more pathetic then most of the eve community already thought.

Death to all capitals. Except PL/NC/S2N capitals. Thats CCP's new motto.

I jumped in, whored on some carrier kills, shot 2 titans just in case and then tabbed out to play BF4

Damn it feels good to be a third party

if you exclusively shoot one side, you are not a third party ;)

Yet they don't crash when there are dozens of BL supers on the field. Something is extremely fishy about it. You can deny it all you want. It is very suspicious.

Theres nothing fishy about it at all... servers was dying for 5 hours... blame your cfc leadership for dog piling more into system and hence no super kills.

The piling in wasn't exactly one sided. Each of those bumped titans had it's own group of carriers and supers piled in to rep them.

It's a bit of a shame that the first supercap and titan battle of any note for years was brought down by a bad node. The battles in fountain with double the numbers had much better performance.

You had 8 hours of supercaps tackled in 3 diff. groups, none in rep range of the other, and you didn't managed to kill A SINGLE SUPER.

Yeah, let's blame ccp

Either way a good test run and I look forward to the largest group of capital **** holders throwing them around sometime soon and then posting tears about numbers.

wat?

If anything, the general cowardice to commit supers from cfc helps pl/nc/n3, as the amount of scrubcaps needed to kill their supers will crash the node everytime.

Fun fact, the titan would have made it out eventually ( most likely downtime ) the only thing we was denied was more carrier kills, it is however a shame the 6 hour battle never got to reach a player made conclusion. Either way a good test run and I look forward to the largest group of capital **** holders throwing them around sometime soon and then posting tears about numbers.

To the OP. when you see the server slowly snapping for 4 hours its clearly not bias and its clearly nothing like the fat finger incident .

gf

Wait, a CFC post that isn't obviously lying and/or grossly misrepresenting facts?
I'm going to +1 on that.

We were able to move our carriers out and in again each time the titans were in trouble, and the only thing that might have changed until DT was exhaustion levels (Which was why I had to leave early. ).
So for the unreasonable CFC posters, please read this post here.

Your complaints might gain some legitimacy!

If someone doesn't get fired for this...

Most CFC see it this way. It sucks balls but this is what happens when you dogpile into an un-reinforced node.

I was there from beginning to end being the last survivor of our 30 man bomber fleet. Tidi thing sucks...

CCP this isn't acceptable play.. You can't hide and pretend massive fleet battle of hundreds if not thousands of players are going to get involved. You need to make changes in eve to make it more playable for players.. As fun as it was it was more tedious to have to wait 20mins to move or to shoot or just wait a cycle to end...

CCP you need to fix or expand or do whatever you need to do for the future of massive space battles. Tidi isn't working, all its doing is a cheap method to save your hardware from melting..

Being the last bomber pilot I was disappointed that CFC couldn't kill me.. I was hoping for a quick pod return.... sadly I had to fly back... with some free lootz ... Come on CFC get your **** together..

We apologise for failing to helicoperdick your entire fleet, those responsible have been forced to sit through 2 hours of WI. theory crafting and SMA threads.

Wouldn't it be better to make them wait 9 hours in tidi again?

Right, first thing, this has made a wonderful read to wake up to, many thanks for everyones input.

Now lets get down to business, we have clearly established the OP is about the bluntest knife in the entire of new eden, not going to be winning any spelling bee's are we. As for the argument CCP need to invest in better hardware, if you'd take an interest in the game, and watch some of the other presentations done at Fanfest you'd know that CCP have (I may not be 100% accurate on this anymore) atleast at the time of the presentation the most powerful server cluster in the entire gaming industry, their most recent purchase was servers that at the time only existed inside the military, but please tell me more about how CCP need to invest in hardware that doesn't actually exist yet.

As for Sladislov, I do love how you're sitting here posting in this thread like you're a big old school Black Legion member, but wait, you are one of those Flavour of the Month monkeys who suddenly felt the need to leave Sniggwaffe shortly after the Revenant died, and join Black Legion.

As for the general reason for the crash, this is what happens when you try to bring even more people into a system that wasn't reinforced, there is little CCP can do to improve, definitely nothing hardware, there may be software improvements that can be done to optimize performance, but very little can be done in general to improve performance until hardweare develops more. and even then, as CCP have said, they make servers that can handle 1500, we bring 2000, they make the server handle 2000, we bring 2500, they're fighting a loosing battle.

Finally, I am so pissed, I was sat at work watching the Mad Ani twitch stream screaming at my phone that I was missing it all.

BAN LUNNOL AIDERON !

This kind of attitude is disgusting.

And the tears of joy from all of the NC S2N and PL are absolute joy for me. It means we all know how happy you were that the fight ended. It wasn't looking too good for you guys there.

You can GF all you want. But if that node hadn't crashed you wouldn't be saying GF right now. Youd be trying to figure out how your gonna defend your space against all those angry russians without your capital superiority.

And for the record i'm against all node crashes. If CCP had a better way to manage these massive fights then there would be even more awesome fights. We all know there are plenty of people out there who just don't wanna spend 8 hours at their desk playing a game. If these fights could be brought down to a more manageable time frame then so many more people would join up.

And for the record i'm not a goon.

CCP should give up on tidi, and somehow make all the servers to work flawlessly at a cap of 2000 people per system.


No matter what they should upgrade the hardware or the nodes or whatever and set a limit of people per system.

**** the tidi and all this bullshit.


Upgrade hardware if needed and set a limit per system.
That will create new strategies too.

(...)

As for Sladislov, I do love how you're sitting here posting in this thread like you're a big old school Black Legion member, but wait, you are one of those Flavour of the Month monkeys who suddenly felt the need to leave Sniggwaffe shortly after the Revenant died, and join Black Legion.

(...)

Yes, just like when Asakai crashed so CFC-capitals were saved from getting butchered in a fight with over 3k people involved. Oh, wait... that node didn't crash. I guess we all can't be that lucky to have nodes accidently taken offline or crashing when being on the losing side. 1 time stable and 2 times going offline with the same side benefitting. 3-0, what are the odds?

How much in game time passed during yesterdays TIDI?

We apologise for failing to helicoperdick your entire fleet, those responsible have been forced to sit through 2 hours of WI. theory crafting and SMA threads.

really kiddo ?

Some consider it to be fun...

Woah look!
We have an internet badass over there!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DksSPZTZES0


Tears...nom nom nom

titan would have lasted till DT. CCP did us all a favor by killing the node early so we didn't have to sit and suffer in the horrible 99.99% tidi. Spent 2 hours trying to warp. yer 2 hours!

The node and the system was fine until CFC pinged and brought down 200 more people.
Second CFC entered local, the whole node started acting weird, lag was increasing a lot, guns were not cycling any more, ships wouldnt stop / align / react at all.

So all you guys complaining about CCP being on N3 side and saying "why didnt this happen when BL supers were tackled" - it's really easy.

Everybody hates us, when our titans are tackled everybody and their grandmothers pets form a fleet to kill us.
When BL is tackled, nobody comes to safe them (except for RAZOR).

Did you see vee forming a 200 man fleet to get BLs supers out? No.
Did you see -A- and DD staying on field to get BLs supers out? No.



I know it sucks that the node crashed, I know our coalition and PL benefited from it, but in the end it was CFC that kept spamming local chat and kept jumping in more and more people.

Good Fight, come again.

The node and the system was fine until CFC pinged and brought down 200 more people.
Second CFC entered local, the whole node started acting weird, lag was increasing a lot, guns were not cycling any more, ships wouldnt stop / align / react at all.

So all you guys complaining about CCP being on N3 side and saying "why didnt this happen when BL supers were tackled" - it's really easy.

Everybody hates us, when our titans are tackled everybody and their grandmothers pets form a fleet to kill us.
When BL is tackled, nobody comes to safe them (except for RAZOR).

Did you see vee forming a 200 man fleet to get BLs supers out? No.
Did you see -A- and DD staying on field to get BLs supers out? No.



I know it sucks that the node crashed, I know our coalition and PL benefited from it, but in the end it was CFC that kept spamming local chat and kept jumping in more and more people.

Good Fight, come again.

Awww my post must have been pinged on NC's jabber. Hi guys. GF.

The real conspiracy here is that kugu goes down when CCP's hardware failed

Yeah, but when kugu goes down, no one cares.

titan would have lasted till DT. CCP did us all a favor by killing the node early so we didn't have to sit and suffer in the horrible 99.99% tidi. Spent 2 hours trying to warp. yer 2 hours!

Simple enough solution.
You hate TiDi, as any normally thinking human would.
Your game time is far to valuable to be sitting doing virtually nothing for 2 hours. Fair enough.

So quit the null sec cartel game, and play in FW, or in NPC nullsec, where stupid battles numbering in the 1000s of pilots don't happen, and your fun/hour is many orders of magnitude higher.

I love reading from all the null sec cartel propagandists about how null sec sov battles are the thing CCP uses to draw people to the game, and how the null sec warfare is the most attractive piece of the game from a marketing point of view.
Would dearly love CCP spin ANY TiDi'ed battle into a marketing tool, unless they crank up the speed 100 fold over what actually occurred.

The simple truth is that CCP can never use sov battles as something to lure people to the game, if people actually saw how awful they were. It is one thing to tell media sites "we had 4000 people duking it out in one system". It is quite another to display the true experience.

BAh! Humbug to the no KM rule! lol


in general terms - did ANYTHING of import die? (Let's say bigger than a dread)

30 dreads and an entire N3 Tech3 fleet got hazed in 8 hours.

lmao is this guy serious

HEY CCP THIS IS THE TEST SERVER FEEDBACK SECTION AND YOU HAVE SOME FEEDBACK THAT YOU SHOULD *PROBABLY* TAKE A LOOK AT

EVEN A SIMPLE CONFIRMATION THAT YOU'VE SEEN THIS WOULD DO

THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING YOU SHOULD REALLY GET ON

I just find it so funny that there are so many 'GF's in this thread when just a few days ago it was all 'getrekt'. Funny how the e-honour reappears when CCP Saves your Shinies. Oh well. I guess I should thank CCP for repairing my mael's armor, it was all so totally worth it after flying around shooting stuff all day while on fire.

Ruins the entire point of the game to have Tidi.

Fat fingers? What you gonna blame this node crash on. If someone doesn't get fired for this then your company is even more pathetic then most of the eve community already thought.

Death to all capitals. Except PL/NC/S2N capitals. Thats CCP's new motto.

I just find it so funny that there are so many 'GF's in this thread when just a few days ago it was all 'getrekt'. Funny how the e-honour reappears when CCP Saves your Shinies. Oh well. I guess I should thank CCP for repairing my mael's armor, it was all so totally worth it after flying around shooting stuff all day while on fire.

All in rep range, the time they was out of rep range worked out to like 2mins real game time and when we focused on the final titan the game was not even registering damage but thanks for chiming in.

Yet they don't crash when there are dozens of BL supers on the field. Something is extremely fishy about it. You can deny it all you want. It is very suspicious.

In thinking through this position did you take into account that in KW- there was a good fight while in FR- you got rekt?

Nights like tonight are quit worthy. Ruins the entire point of the game to have Tidi. Lean to ******* fix it dynamically without crashing the server or just ******* delete this ******** game.

time to send waffles back to your space

There are no better tears in this game than the tears from Goon Pets except tears from Goons themselves.

What they once hated, they have become.

All these massive fights in 10% tidi or shall I say .1% tidi prove is that CCP needs to find a better method of handling these 1500 man fights. Even on reinforced nodes they still crash. This fight tonight/today proved again that the current system is no longer a viable solution.

If someone doesn't get fired for this then your company is even more pathetic then most of the eve community already thought.