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Guardian Alpha	Posted - 2006.02.12 20:15:00 - [31] Edited by: Guardian Alpha on 12/02/2006 20:16:46 Quote: Then please accept my apologies. Apology accepted but your critisisim was welcomed Didn't notice the typo until you mentioned it, so cheers. And if I fly it for fun why do I bother kitting it? Because I enjoy taking it into combat. It is a ship after all, not a little puppy. Is it an expensive toy? Yes Are there better tech 2 frigate alternatives? Yes Would I have as much fun flying something else into combat? No Do I care, through ISK or otherwise, if I lose the ship by having fun with it? No ------------------- "It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." - Charles Darwin
Halunoto Vankaalen	Posted - 2006.02.13 04:24:00 - [32] Originally by: fmercury If you're going to buy it and fly it around solely for the novelty of it, why bother fitting it out at all? Because flying a combat ship around unfitted is morally wrong ----- All for the Good of Many Caldari Navy
OrangeAfroMan	Posted - 2006.02.13 07:30:00 - [33] I guess people dont realise that you can take things you learn from reading a setup like that with explanations, and apply them to other ships. For example, I learned that a 100mm plate may be better for a cepter than the 200mm plates you see in all the claw threads nowadays. Anyway, awesome setup, wish i had the isk to fly it =p And one more thing.. I too am extremely tired of seeing "sell it and buy x ship" posts, they are COMPLETELY pointless, and if people do do that then they completely eliminate diversity in the game. Yay lets just have one ship everybody! Its called the Blackbeak and it does everything and its all you are allowed to fly, and there is ofc only one race duh!
inSpirAcy	Posted - 2006.02.13 07:59:00 - [34] Edited by: inSpirAcy on 13/02/2006 07:58:59 Originally by: OrangeAfroMan Its called the Blackbeak and it does everything and its all you are allowed to fly, and there is ofc only one race duh! Where can I buy this Blackbeak that you speak of? And how might I equip it for mining?
Grimwalius d'Antan	Posted - 2006.02.13 09:32:00 - [35] The ship has novelty value, geez. The Taranis pwns everything else, so saying he should get one of those is a nobrainer. The original poster is somewhat deluded about the usefulness of this ship however, I could give you that. I still want one, for the novelty value.
Ysolde Xen	Posted - 2006.02.13 11:13:00 - [36] I'd like to pick one up myself one of these days. I like some of the faction ships because they're unique and quirky, not because they are teh ubar solopwnmobile. I have a Firetail that I plan on decking out with Republic Fleet kit when I get around to it. Not to pwn in some stupid 'who is leeter than thou' contest but because on the side I'm a frigate collector and I like my prized specimens to be functional as well as pretty to look at and fun to fly. I hear talk of tweaking these faction frigates to bring them more in line with the other faction cruisers/battleships so they are the equivalent of a named top-tier tech 1 ship: just a bit better all-round than the rifter/tristan/merlin/punisher. ----- Just because you couldn't get a ship to do what you wanted doesn't mean it's a crap ship - it means you're a crap pilot of that ship.
Kery Nysell	Posted - 2006.02.13 12:02:00 - [37] Originally by: Ysolde Xen <snip> I hear talk of tweaking these faction frigates to bring them more in line with the other faction cruisers/battleships so they are the equivalent of a named top-tier tech 1 ship: just a bit better all-round than the rifter/tristan/merlin/punisher. <snip> They are already better than the Tier-3 frigs of their race : they have roughly 150% of the shield/armor/hull of their non-faction counterpart and one more slot, but since the Mark 2 Project they don't have the same bonii anymore : for example, the Hookbill still has the +10% shield HPs per level that the Merlin had before Mk2. Their biggest problem, IMHO, is that they still are T1 frigs with low resistances, but with the cost of 2+ T2 frigs ...
Shiva Russell	Posted - 2006.02.15 22:16:00 - [38] I collect faction ships, got a comet, hookbill and a daredevil at the moment. costs a bit but so what!! its all about enjoying the game (yes i have normall assault frigs,interceptors etc as well) and i love flying them but its nice to look at the faction ships now and again. nice thread.
KiEvA	Posted - 2006.03.20 12:13:00 - [39] Comets are sexy ! i have to admit that, TBH i dont know whats all the whining about, yes it's expensive, but it's only 50million isk hardly the end of the world if you lose it, and the ship is rare-ish Keep up the set-ups And if anyone is interested i've got 2 Comets for sale 50m each -evemail if interested :)
Nato Xemus	Posted - 2006.03.27 08:52:00 - [40] Edited by: Nato Xemus on 27/03/2006 08:52:37 well got my navy comet for a very reasonable price thanks to KiEvA (i recomend her/him very friendly and reasonable) heres my set up atm Highs 2 light neutrons II's with antimatter 1 arbie rocket launcher with firefox's (will replace with t2 once learning skills are finsihed) 1 small diminishing vamp (god wish they would bring out t2s) Mid 1mn ab II Fleeting propultion webber cap recharger II Low small repper II MAPC 100mm rolled tungsten plate and a mag stb II is very good ive found plus the fact that its best looking t1 frig in game means this is one awesome ship! i advise collectors to get one and if your not a collector i say SCREW IT and get one anyway "Did you ever find bugs bunny attractive when he put on a dress and played a girl bunny?"
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.03.27 09:24:00 - [41] OK, lets be serious. This OP writes a lot of very long and involved setups for a lot of ships, many of which anyone with PvP experience or a decent number of skillpoints wouldn't touch with a bargepole. Regardless of whether the setup is any good or not (personally I think it's pretty standard and boring), no-one who can afford a Gallente Navy Comet is going to fit it out with basic tech 1 mods. Minimum named mods, and more likely by the time you can afford one, tech 2 mods. Either way, though, regardless of what you fit it with, doesn't get round the fact that the ship is a pile of junk compared to a tech 2 frig. And it costs 4-5x as much. And it doesn't insure for that. It's a toy ship, and will always remain so. No matter how much money you have, 100mil is never cheap to lose. Especially on something junk. Originally by: Nero Scuro The Comet makes a nice if very large paperweight. Get some Taranii instead (I love the word Taranii). Stolen. This guy really needs to buy some Taranii. Testy's Eve Blog!
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.03.27 09:26:00 - [42] Originally by: OrangeAfroMan I guess people dont realise that you can take things you learn from reading a setup like that with explanations, and apply them to other ships. For example, I learned that a 100mm plate may be better for a cepter than the 200mm plates you see in all the claw threads nowadays. 100mm plates are barely worth wasting a slot for. 200mm plates, maybe. 400mm plates make you hard to kill. So wherever you learned that from, I suggest you go and explain to him that his post made you worse at pvp. Testy's Eve Blog!
Litus Arowar	Posted - 2006.03.29 15:16:00 - [43] Edited by: Litus Arowar on 29/03/2006 15:20:46 I'm gonna go off on a bit of a tangent, because I'd preffer it if this thread wasn't a flame fest, and it really gets on my nerve when people think the setup they're seeing everywhere is the one that must be used 100mm plates can be a great addition to a ship, even interceptors... I think 200mms are a waste, unless you fit 2... here's how it breaks down (all plates are tungsten with level 5 skills): 400mm: - 1050hp - 275k mass (~25% inty mass) - 30pg 18cpu - 1 slot* (2 with MAPC) the 400mm usually requires a micro auxiliary power core, meaning it takes 2 slots to fit, and requires 17.5pg and 33cpu 200mm: - 525hp - 137.5k mass (~12.5% inty mass) - 10pg 13cpu - 1 slot the 200mm doesn't have very high fitting requirements, but it is directly in line with the 400mm as far as mass addition and hitpoint bonus... if you fit 2 of these as can be useful sometimes, you're using 20pg and 26cpu, so you're paying 2.5 extra grid and saving 7cpu... this can be good if EW is eating your cpu, and the overall bonuses are identical to a mapc + 400mm 100mm: - 262.5 hp - 27.5k mass (~2.5% inty mass) - 5pg 8cpu - 1 slot what do we have here? this plate adds almost no mass to a ship, even 4 of them are lighter than just one 200mm... of course, you'll never fit 4, but the point stands... adding 262.5hp to a crusader is an additional 40% hitpoints, which isn't much, but it's also the inty with the thickest armour... so the bonus is much bigger on other ships... use this as you want, but don't dismiss 100mm plates because you read nothing about them anywhere... read module stats, learn a bit on your own, don't just take everyone's treads and assume only 200s and 400s are worthwhile
K'reemy G'udness	Posted - 2006.05.18 18:40:00 - [44] Interesting thread. I may pick one via a lvl 3 agent, just to play with it. I love the Tristan, and still have fun fitting one with T2 gear for belt piracy. I mostly fly the Ishkur atm, which I love the most. I don't really understand the whole "get a taranis" bit. It's like someone saying "I got a 76 corvette", and someone coming back with "get a RX-8". Pretty off-topic and moronic. --- wtb: ♥
Morrigan Starlover	Posted - 2006.05.18 18:46:00 - [45] Those things are awesome. You sell them to people for tens of millions, then they go out and try to pvp in their tech 1 frigate. Dude you aren't supposed to actually use those. You drive them by highschools to make the little girls swoon.
Ernest Graefenberg	Posted - 2006.05.18 20:37:00 - [46] Edited by: Ernest Graefenberg on 18/05/2006 20:37:28 You fail at quitting Testy :p Now for the mental defecations in this thread : A 100mm plate gets you less raw hitpoints than a damage control which happens to add no mass at all. The point stands double for the Comets decent base hitpoints. Worrying about your mass on a Comet with a frickin' AB is also completely beside the point, you're not even getting close to having to worry about the 3.5-5k velocity competition vs non-snaked intys. Painters also don't increase damage in any way - signature radius vs signature resolution on your weapon is a multiplier to tracking, which you can manage in ways that don't take up a midslot. The only direct damage increases you'll see will be on missiles with explosion radii greater than 30m - a completely irrelevant bonus compared to actually using that extra mid (for NPCing a Eutectic, for PvP obviously a 'ruptor). The Capacitor Power Relay in the low also has no business in a PvP fitting, as your capacitor won't be sustained under more than 1 med nos anyway - whereas that lowslot has the option to get you extra raw hitpoints via a non-****ty plate or an Adaptive Nano. Also stuff it about T1 fittings - T2 fittings are more interesting to talk about due to the increased requirements but tremendous benefits to them. Downgrading a posted T2 fitting to T1 takes no thought at all - whereas what might fit with T1 can quite well not with T2. Finally your Comet has no role whatsoever. If you can afford to fit one, I'd assume you know enough to effectively tailor it to a niche - but what you've shown us here is a very sub-par NPCing and PvPing frig. Okay, why do I even reply to this stuff? Its too obvious that its just more trolling.
Arushia	Posted - 2006.05.18 23:41:00 - [47] Geez, read the original post. He said that the T1 fittings he gave were baselines for those who didn't yet have t2 skills and to freely substitute t2 or named. He also gave no mention to this being a PvP fitting. I certainly wouldn't try to use my Daredevil in PvP.
Haeloic	Posted - 2006.05.19 14:10:00 - [48] Guess it's time for a TII Comet then eh? I had one but sold it shortly after, as I could not afford to lose it.
Tiberius Soulcrusher	Posted - 2006.05.25 11:35:00 - [49] My Setup: 2x Ions/2x rockets x5 webber/Eutectic capcharger/ABII repperII/Internal Forcefield Array/PDU/100mm Rolled Tungsten pwns any 0.5 rat. will never ever see lowsec or PvP I own it because i can, also have Daredevil, Worm, Ranis, Helios etc etc I also have work boots and nice shoes too. Point is it's something out of the ordinary to have, not an ubergank machine.javascript:insertsmilie('','WebPost','text'); Rolling Eyes Slaver hound rides in cargobay. It's a copcar so it might as well be a K-9 unit and he likes his car rides. Thanks for this thread Guardian Alpha o/
Shardrael	Posted - 2006.05.25 12:32:00 - [50] Edited by: Shardrael on 25/05/2006 12:32:47 I have a quick question, if given the option of 3 launcher slots and 2 turret slots on this commet with 4 high's would you guys fit two blasters a rocket and a nos 1 blaster two rockets and a nos two rockets one blaster and a nos or 3 rockets and 1 blaster or 3 rockets and 1 nos? ok so maybe I didnt have to type all that out but with 4 hi slots and 3 launcher/2 turret what would be the better setup dps wise w/ nos and w/o ? edit: thinking of this cause I am trying to setup a close range pvp worm
Mobyus	Posted - 2006.06.01 08:30:00 - [51] I have a comet just because I had had the damned offers so often I wanted to see one in space. Looks great in the thumbnail on info, but when active in hanger or in space..... Well does anyone else think its looks like a 21st electric street cleaner?
Mortuus	Posted - 2006.06.01 09:21:00 - [52] Edited by: Mortuus on 01/06/2006 09:22:42 I thought I would just say, nice thread. Always like to read these, well, not the trolling parts. Also, a 100mm plate is useful. It adds protection AND gives you higher speed and agility compared to those fat slow turning ceptors with 400's. A 200mm plate has served me very well on many occassions as well, and works with some of my Claw fittings excellently. Hmmm...thought outside the box? On the ships and modules forums? What is the world coming to? Oh yea, I love my 200mm AC using 100mm plated Claw, burns through other small ships in seconds. Moves so much faster, crisp acceleration, fast turns. Different setups, for different purposes, playstyles, and people. Get over your own leetness. Good thread Guardian, never seen one on this ship. Occassus Republica, PoE
Joraq	Posted - 2006.06.01 11:39:00 - [53] Originally by: Shardrael Edited by: Shardrael on 25/05/2006 12:32:47 I have a quick question, if given the option of 3 launcher slots and 2 turret slots on this commet with 4 high's would you guys fit two blasters a rocket and a nos 1 blaster two rockets and a nos two rockets one blaster and a nos or 3 rockets and 1 blaster or 3 rockets and 1 nos? ok so maybe I didnt have to type all that out but with 4 hi slots and 3 launcher/2 turret what would be the better setup dps wise w/ nos and w/o ? edit: thinking of this cause I am trying to setup a close range pvp worm Given the choice i would rather have an extra turret point on the comet and go with 3 blasters and NOS but that is because i have more skills in gunnery than missiles. I also have a Worm which is set up with 3x rockets and NOS in the high slots, but i am having a hard time configuring the rest of the ship as it doesnt get the resist bonuses of the Merlin :( and it doesnt have a good enough armor base to make it worthwhile to armor tank or hull tank for that matter which means you have to use your midslots to protect yourself leaving nothing available for Pirating essentials like scram and MWD. Personally i much prefer the Merlin over the Worm as a useable ship but the worm adds nicely to my faction ship collection, but what do i know, I fly gallente. Maybe try a standard rocket kessie setup and good luck.
Ernest Graefenberg	Posted - 2006.06.01 11:51:00 - [54] Originally by: Mortuus Edited by: Mortuus on 01/06/2006 09 Also, a 100mm plate is useful. It adds protection AND gives you higher speed and agility compared to those fat slow turning ceptors with 400's. If you ignore the other fitting options for that slot it looks excellent. But then, so does the option of fitting an Inertia Stabilizer over fitting nothing at all - that doesn't make it a very viable mod. It makes it slightly better than a kick in the nuts. Same goes for a 100mm plate. Slightly better than a kick in the nuts. Considering all it takes is a drag and drop with your mouse though, theres no reason for it to be there.
Bacchuss	Posted - 2006.06.01 13:27:00 - [55] Originally by: KilROCK Originally by: Guardian Alpha if you are simply upset because you lack the ISK to enjoy the game, take it elsewhere. Now that's a funny one. heh, nah KR is one of this rich noobs that there is so many around ************************************ "What you gonna do, when I come for yoU?!" ************************************
Riddari	Posted - 2006.06.01 16:00:00 - [56] It would be awesome if the blinking light was blue (emergency services) instead of yellowish orange (roadworks). ¼+¼ a history
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.06.01 16:37:00 - [57] KR... Go away Anyways... Nato Xemus's setup sounds okay :) Though i would probably switch that plate for a DCU or an energized. /Mav Poverty
Mortuus	Posted - 2006.06.02 04:39:00 - [58] Edited by: Mortuus on 02/06/2006 04:43:05 Ummm... Claw base armor: 344 100mm Rolled Tungsten adds: 210 Useless how? I've got a little extra power left, but no CPU after that 100mm plate. SO what would you strap in there for the 8 CPU you have available? Sure I could slip on a 200mm plate, and use 150mm's instead. Decrease in DPS for the first reload though. Ship works damn fine with this fit too. Occassus Republica, PoE
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