basically our fcs are running around in circles squealing with delight at each new paragraph they get to

Is there any way someone could look into mass fitting ships? This would make people over the universe happy.

So we changed that column to always list the ship types, and now the Location column will contain the information on whether the pilot is docked or not since we know that is still relevant information.

basically our fcs are running around in circles squealing with delight at each new paragraph they get to

Suggestion: Check 'Meta Level' in Compare Tool by default
Keywords: UI
Notes: For everything I use the compare tool for, I want to see lowest meta first. But since the tool doesn't remember what columns are checked, I always have to click the Meta Level checkbox, every single time I open the compare tool. Please tick this checkbox by default when I open the tool.

I suspect that nearly all players for nearly all use cases would find sorting by increasing meta level much more useful than sorting by increasing type name. (and since the compare tool already remembers what column to sort by, ticking the checkbox automatically should be an adequate solution to sorting by meta by default.)

when are you fixing the wing commander bug?

Specifics, please.

A 'Buy and Immediately Fit to Ship' button for buying modules from the market would be amazing.

Yes please!

basically our fcs are running around in circles squealing with delight at each new paragraph they get to

Often the wing commander doesn't receive Wing & Fleet bonuses (example: armor warfare link boosts)

Often the wing commander doesn't receive Wing & Fleet bonuses (example: armor warfare link boosts)

Often the wing commander doesn't receive Wing & Fleet bonuses (example: armor warfare link boosts)

It'd be a bug if they *did* get both bonuses. That said, the current design of that is rather unintuitive and I'm sure it'd be high on one's list of things to change if redoing how fleet bonuses work.

It'd be a bug if they *did* get both bonuses. That said, the current design of that is rather unintuitive and I'm sure it'd be high on one's list of things to change if redoing how fleet bonuses work.

I hope you like these changes! :D

Not sure if serious.

Hello Capsuleers!

CCP karkur is here today to tell you all about some cool changes to the fleet interface coming with EVE Online: Rubicon.

Check out her new Dev Blog for full details on what's in the pipeline to make herding angry, bloodthirsty capsuleers a whole lot easier from November 19.

cool i like gifs... they are superior to graphs.

awesome stuff!!

amazing changes Karkur!! love yooooo!

just a sidenote on FC'ing and fleets etc.... could we possibly have a modifier key in shortcuts that we can use (modifier key)+alphanumerics in order to 'tag' targets. it can be so much more informative for primary secondary etc than broadcasted targets (though broadcasts do help people lock the targets easily)

Tagging is rarely (if ever) used because navigating a right click style menu structure is faar to slow for fleets.

kthanksbye! x

I'm pretty sure Team Five 0 (or some other team) added that a while back.

Awesome job! Look forward to the new fleet UI.

Out of curiosity, has there been any progress on creating a Fleet Bonuses Information window?

(i.e. something that shows what bonuses we are getting, and from whom?)

wow that was a rather stealthy addition! nice! =)

The way the fleet structure works right now

FC gets his own bonuses
WC gets his own bonuses, but not bonuses from FC
SC gets his own bonuses, bonuses from WC, and bonuses from FC
SM gets bonuses from SC, WC, FC

So if there ever exists a time when the WC gets bonuses from FC ("often the wing command doesn't receive Wing & Fleet bonuses"), that would be a bug because the structure currently doesn't allow it. However, the current fleet design is unintuitive so it should be fixed.

These are great. I really like the fleet fixes.

However..., why haven't we seen anything tho help the click feast in the industry UI? Every time you make changes like this, they are great but there are a ton of "little things" that can be done (seriously some look as easy as a case statement) that never make it? Why have all these "little things" threads when you get to maybe, two or three changes every three months? Is this a side project to do when you are bored because the UI isn't a priority? Or is there a "big announcement" coming to make all those ideas something that will get some love?

Sorry for bing a **** here but industry people have been asking for something / anything to the UI for how many years now? I get everyone uses fleets but eve wouldn't be anything if Indys didn't build ships and mods. How about you throw us a bone for once?

Not sure if serious.

First non-CCP

Now I am going to be the ungrateful person and ask for more . Is there any way someone could look into mass fitting ships? This would make people over the universe happy.

I love these changes, thanks!

Do have to give you some feedback on the drone group changes you implemented a couple patches ago. In heavy TiDi UI lag situations it is incredibly easy for whatever reason to select all of your drone groups and drag them into another, which destroys all of the groups and is immensely annoying in a carrier with 3k+ drones and at least 20-30 groups. Not sure how to fix this other than simply disabling the ability to drag groups into each other to form new ones but it would be nice to see a change.

And so is Nina

I'm a hero!!! (apparently).

I like the way Rubicon is going. I might even venture back into the game. :)

These are great. I really like the fleet fixes.

However..., why haven't we seen anything tho help the click feast in the industry UI? Every time you make changes like this, they are great but there are a ton of "little things" that can be done (seriously some look as easy as a case statement) that never make it? Why have all these "little things" threads when you get to maybe, two or three changes every three months? Is this a side project to do when you are bored because the UI isn't a priority? Or is there a "big announcement" coming to make all those ideas something that will get some love?

Sorry for bing a **** here but industry people have been asking for something / anything to the UI for how many years now? I get everyone uses fleets but eve wouldn't be anything if Indys didn't build ships and mods. How about you throw us a bone for once?

Regarding the usability of shift-move... to me the logic there is a bit odd, is restricted to a bizarre squad exception, and is generally unintuitive as a result. I think this behavior makes more sense and would be easier to remember:

* when dragging any number of people (1 or many) onto the fleet commander, wing commander, or squad commander position, those people are placed in the first open squad member position under that squad/wing/fleet

* to set a fleet commander, wing commander, or squad commander, shift-drag a single person to that slot

There, very simple logic. Regular drag always puts people into the fleet as a squad member. Shift-drag always assigns leadership. Easy peasy.

It's actually not a squad exception... it also applies to Wing and Commander slots, I just didn't mention that in the blog.

Hmm. I have now discovered that I need to post here.

I do have a concern with the drag to invite from any pilot list functionality.

Jita.

Are we all about to get spammed out of our brain with fleet invites in every hub system because people are looking for the easy fleet kill?

Hmm. I have now discovered that I need to post here.

I do have a concern with the drag to invite from any pilot list functionality.

Jita.

Are we all about to get spammed out of our brain with fleet invites in every hub system because people are looking for the easy fleet kill?
Yes it will be great when I'm in null and the FC wants a fleet put together quickly, but there are going to be a lot of occasions when we don't want to see this up.
Perhaps limiting it to people we have at +5 or higher (or modifiable for any value of N).
Or disabling it in systems with more than X number of pilots.
Or even just making it possible to turn off.

I'd prefer something like the first, and I bet your system resources will appreciate the reduction of spurious invites clogging up the system.

Please add the following feature (which bugs me in every fleet):

If a squad has already 10 pilots in it but no squad command, you were till now unable to get into squad command position if you wanted to drag yourself (free move on) from another squad directly into the free squad command position. Sucks if noone of these 10ppl who are already in the squad has leadership V.

Cheers
Jasmin

btw...If FC sets a fleet layout.. can he please also define, that f.e. squad XYZ can only be used for like logistic ships? (If pilot sits in one when he joins fleet). That would be awesome :)

Does shift-move also work when multimoving people? By work I mean, will it still just make them all regular squad members exactly as if I hadn't been holding shift? Or will it be confused?

Basically I'm just trying to figure out if I have to worry about whether I'm moving one or multi people, which is the thing I least want to care about. If I can always just hold shift to make sure whatever I'm dropping is assigned as a squad member then that's consistent too, with the added benefit of not actually changing any of the existing behaviors people are used to (even though my suggestion is CATEGORICALLY BETTER if ignoring backwards compatibility ;)

OMG you have added a few tweaks and small changes and think this is a big deal and worthy of classifying it as an expansion?!!

Yes great thanks for these few tweaks but this is hardly representative of a supposedly full dev team in over 3 offices...I wonder what all those people are doing?

We NEED more real development in Eve. We need out of pod and we need it now not 2020!!!! We need Valkarie and we need that **** next year. We do not need a few tweaks to the UI!

Well, you can only have 10 people in the squad, so you just need to shuffle people around.

(to mitigate the 10-squad-members, populate up to 9 members first:)
1st squad choice: "top-most squad with both a Wing Commander and a Squad Commander"
2nd squad choice: "top-most squad with a Wing Commander"
3rd squad choice: "top-most squad with a Squad Commander",
4th squad choice: "top-most commander-less squad with <9 members"
5th squad choice: "top-most commander-less squad with 9 members"

Nice changes.
Can you please make the BROADCAST buttons BIGGER?

TIA

...Are we all about to get spammed out of our brain with fleet invites in every hub system because people are looking for the easy fleet kill?...

The thing is, "all these little things thread" exist because you guys want to tell us about the little things you want to be changed/fixed.
If you look at the last 2, they are not started by CCP, but players.
I think they are great though, and I'm building a "want to work on" list for myself from them.

For some of us, the UI is a priority, but you are kind of right on these changes being a side project. We have "20% time" where we can work on what we want, and I use it (and some extra hours) to work on these kind of changes.
Perhaps some industry changes will make it higher on my list soon, we'll have to see

That's a good point and we'll keep an eye on it and react to it if needed

That or allow us to apply rules based off the alerts system (which will **** off every logi pilot in New Eden.

example :

if Armour < 80% broadcast need Armour.