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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3559
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:43:00 -
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One thing is certain, if there was a goal to introduce highsec players to nullsec PVP, this is not the way to do it.
All they did was damage it.
Already the notion about nullsec is "You jump in, get podded. Nullsec."
And in the Live Events channel, I was seeing that. "Made it into the system, in a pod now".
Nullsec players will be smug about this for a while, then go back to wondering why they are so bored until their bosses decide to fight over something or go back to camping gates with disposable alts in highsec.
With this level of damage done, CCP will never be able to do something like this again. Next time they try this, it'll be a fleet of T1 frigs or everybody simply deciding not to pad someone else's killboard.
And if the only way to avoid ending up on someone else's killboard is to avoid them, then that's exactly what will happen. |
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
527
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:47:00 -
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So.....empire players missed the fact that there was a CTA for people to fight against empire, and missed their AP telling them they were going to null and missed the fact that maybe they should bring guns, and it turned out that null preferred to fight against empire than for it.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/join-the-pirates-and-defend-their-assets
How anyone read that and thought "This will be a PvE only event" is beyond me..... |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1886
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:47:00 -
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I think comparing high sec vs. null sec power is sort of comparing apples and oranges, in this case. The high sec guys were a crowd of uncoordinated strangers, probably fit for PVE. Wandering into an area where everybody is ready for PVP at any time, in the same alliance, and easily able to communicate and coordinate with each other. It's kind of like a hockey team wandered into an armed infantry base. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1119
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:50:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:La Nariz wrote:Anslo wrote:See this is what pisses me off about the current 'peeveepee' crowd. It used to be about gudfites. Now it's just about collecting tears and telling people to deal with it or leave? AND THEN you have the balls to ***** about people not coming to low and nul?
Give me a ******* break. What happened to the game I loved man? People do things for different reasons wow what a shocker. The game you loved is being strangled by highsec people, hence why the event happened in null/lowsec :smug:. I have yet to see one location of player strangle another. Stop it with this strawman. Are goons limited to only a few talking points?
I can't fault you for not seeing it, as a highsec dweller your viewpoint is limited to only highsec. Since you're limited to highsec I'll give you a highsec argument. Perform a peer reviewed quintuple-blind study that gets published in Cell to prove that highsec is not strangling the game, or else I'm right :smug:. |
Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
52
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:52:00 -
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yeah when I saw that I new this was going to be a pvp event. But even I didn't realise what it was going to be like. And yes I did see a lot of new people to pvp tagging along and having a go. This is admirable, pity the result was a mess. |
Karrl Tian
Beers for Tears
231
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:53:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:See, even if a group of High Seccers became really organised and managed to defeat one of the *Null Sec Cartels* and subsequently take their space, the other High Sec inhabitants would just start regarding them as yet another *Null Sec Cartel*.
So...basically Nullsec is Wal-Mart? |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
538
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:54:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:...
Already the notion about nullsec is "You jump in, get podded. Nullsec."
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Next time they try this, it'll be a fleet of T1 frigs...
1) Putting everyone in a uniform fleet comp (t1 frigs) consisting of ships with similar capabilities in terms of speed, align time, tracking, and optimals would be a massive improvement over today's showing.
2) Did you have a forward scout? Did you have a designated FC? Was everyone on voice comms? Did you have a proper fleet comp? If you can't answer yes to those four questions, you will always get podded in nullsec.
Welcome to the real game, that is to say, not shooting red crosses and rocks in complete safety. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3560
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:55:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:La Nariz wrote:Anslo wrote:See this is what pisses me off about the current 'peeveepee' crowd. It used to be about gudfites. Now it's just about collecting tears and telling people to deal with it or leave? AND THEN you have the balls to ***** about people not coming to low and nul?
Give me a ******* break. What happened to the game I loved man? People do things for different reasons wow what a shocker. The game you loved is being strangled by highsec people, hence why the event happened in null/lowsec :smug:. I have yet to see one location of player strangle another. Stop it with this strawman. Are goons limited to only a few talking points? I can't fault you for not seeing it, as a highsec dweller your viewpoint is limited to only highsec. Since you're limited to highsec I'll give you a highsec argument. Perform a peer reviewed quintuple-blind study that gets published in Cell to prove that highsec is not strangling the game, or else I'm right :smug:.
I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. So spare your fake elitism. Not all of us get to join an organization that specifically gears it's internal rhetoric towards people with low self esteem, and most of us and see through it. So all you are doing is boring me.
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Atlantis Fuanan
Uncharted Skies
Cerberus Unleashed
53
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:56:00 -
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In the end, it was, atleast for me, a wonderfull demonstration how "awesome" cyno's can work. (No travel, insta-blob-fest) Beside the stupidity for telling Hisec participants to move around 16 jumps with tidi 10% (most of the time), it was at some point unclear if the event is still going on or has been finished "by objective".
I still believe that all the great plan behind this was to burn ISK. Atleast this got completed! |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
538
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:58:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad.
Holy cow, this man anchored a bubble once! Clearly, he knows what he's about. |
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Solstice Project
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
4390
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:59:00 -
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People of highsec have only themselves to blame and nobody else.
If they could use their brains and stop caring only about their own interests,
they'd not be such worthless, shame-full, embarrassing victims.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3560
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:59:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:...
Already the notion about nullsec is "You jump in, get podded. Nullsec."
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Next time they try this, it'll be a fleet of T1 frigs...
1) Putting everyone in a uniform fleet comp (t1 frigs) consisting of ships with similar capabilities in terms of speed, align time, tracking, and optimals would be a massive improvement over today's showing. 2) Did you have a forward scout? Did you have a designated FC? Was everyone on voice comms? Did you have a proper fleet comp? If you can't answer yes to those four questions, you will always get podded in nullsec. Welcome to the real game, that is to say, not shooting red crosses and rocks in complete safety.
I spend months at a time in nullsec reaping the rewards and avoiding the internal drama and nerd rage. I have one account, I never used scouts.
"you will always get podded in nullsec".
I'll let Infinity Ziona describe how incorrect that statement is.
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
965
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:00:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. Holy cow, this man anchored a bubble once! Clearly, he knows what he's about.
Quote:military experts are calling this a cynosural field |
Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
272
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:02:00 -
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oh yeah and just post 'gf' in local should this happen. it's a proven desalination technique. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1119
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:02:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. So spare your fake elitism. Not all of us get to join an organization that specifically gears it's internal rhetoric towards people with low self esteem, and most of us can see through it. So all you are doing is boring me.
I'm not hearing proof against highsec strangling the game, I guess that means I'm right :smug:. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
538
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:04:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:...
Already the notion about nullsec is "You jump in, get podded. Nullsec."
...
Next time they try this, it'll be a fleet of T1 frigs...
1) Putting everyone in a uniform fleet comp (t1 frigs) consisting of ships with similar capabilities in terms of speed, align time, tracking, and optimals would be a massive improvement over today's showing. 2) Did you have a forward scout? Did you have a designated FC? Was everyone on voice comms? Did you have a proper fleet comp? If you can't answer yes to those four questions, you will always get podded in nullsec. Welcome to the real game, that is to say, not shooting red crosses and rocks in complete safety. I spend months at a time in nullsec reaping the rewards and avoiding the internal drama and nerd rage. I have one account, I never used scouts. "you will always get podded in nullsec". I'll let Infinity Ziona describe how incorrect that statement is.
Herzog, you've convinced me. With your superior bubble anchoring experience, I hereby crown you king of hisec. Rally your forces, and purge null sec of the filthy nullbears in retribution for today's atrocities.
Go now, your people await! |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1119
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:08:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:
Herzog, you've convinced me. With your superior bubble anchoring experience, I hereby crown you king of hisec. Rally your forces, and purge null sec of the filthy nullbears in retribution for today's atrocities.
Go now, your people await!
Hell no, Harry Forever is the ~King of Highsec~, that highsec dweller will have to fight him for the title. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3560
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:10:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:...
Already the notion about nullsec is "You jump in, get podded. Nullsec."
...
Next time they try this, it'll be a fleet of T1 frigs...
1) Putting everyone in a uniform fleet comp (t1 frigs) consisting of ships with similar capabilities in terms of speed, align time, tracking, and optimals would be a massive improvement over today's showing. 2) Did you have a forward scout? Did you have a designated FC? Was everyone on voice comms? Did you have a proper fleet comp? If you can't answer yes to those four questions, you will always get podded in nullsec. Welcome to the real game, that is to say, not shooting red crosses and rocks in complete safety. I spend months at a time in nullsec reaping the rewards and avoiding the internal drama and nerd rage. I have one account, I never used scouts. "you will always get podded in nullsec". I'll let Infinity Ziona describe how incorrect that statement is. Herzog, you've convinced me. With your superior bubble anchoring experience, I hereby crown you king of hisec. Rally your forces, and purge null sec of the filthy nullbears in retribution for today's atrocities. Go now, your people await!
I play wherever I feel like. Playing cat and mouse in VFK was always fun and I'll do it again some time.
I just don't single out people who play differently for some downward comparison. My self esteem never required it. Having seen enough goon idealogy though, it would be great if they didn't boost the self-worth of their own membership at the expense of the rest of the player base.
Reminds me of those guys who used to goose-step all over Europe. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
539
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:12:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Reminds me of those guys who used to goose-step all over Europe.
Yes, people that shoot you in game are a certain type of fascist in real life.  |
Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
53
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:14:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Reminds me of those guys who used to goose-step all over Europe.
Yes, people that shoot you in game are a certain type of fascist in real life.
yes it only took 48 posts for us to break Godwins law |
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Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
3172
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:18:00 -
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dexington wrote:Anslo wrote:dexington wrote:Because in eve online you don't cry about jumping a low-sec gate and losing you ship, you get a ******* warning telling you what you are about to do. If you do it anyways and lose your ship, and then run to the forums crying, you are a god damn ****** and they game would be better if you just left. Says the guy who doesn't step foot into nul and ganks miners like a 'bad ass.' Quote:People lose spaceships because they do stupid things, but when you decide it's better to cry then to learn from you mistakes you are so ******* stupid eve online is just not a game you have then mental capacity to play. Is that why you stay in high sec? Lost too many ships to people who shoot back? Nerd. Maybe you you should just find a game where you can pick flowers, while you watch brokeback mountain. ******.
lol, this coming from someone who's most risky kill wasa hulk with hobgoblin I's. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3563
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:22:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Reminds me of those guys who used to goose-step all over Europe.
Yes, people that shoot you in game are a certain type of fascist in real life.
I have roamed, bubbled, and occasionally bombed in goonspace. I don't target cynos as readily as Harry Forever, but I do condone it.
You want to know what's funny about this?
I have yet to actually be shot by a goon. It was always someone else. Most of the shooting at me was done by people who claim to be goon killers.
When I can get back to less-busy weekends maybe I'll get a chance to be shot by goons. Or maybe I'll end up in another section of nullsec. But chances are my time will be taken up fiddling around with some new ships when Rubicon comes.
You'll get your chance.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
7098
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:25:00 -
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CCP LEADS LEMMINGS/SHEEP TO SLAUGHTER.
This and other news, tonight at 11. |
Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
35633
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:29:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Reminds me of those guys who used to goose-step all over Europe.
Yes, people that shoot you in game are a certain type of fascist in real life. yes it only took 48 posts for us to break Godwins law
Clarification: Godwin's law was not broken, it was validated.
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baltec1
Bat Country
8456
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:38:00 -
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So I take it high sec is angry over being useless again. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1119
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:58:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:So I take it high sec is angry over being useless again.
Yep. |
tC Jeff
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
1
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:14:00 -
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Just to clear some things up, the surrounding nullsec systems were under heavy TiDi as well. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3566
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:23:00 -
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Having to leave before the fun started, based on the descriptions it would appear that nullsec got a beaten naked tied up women handed to them and they are acting like it was their charm and prowess involved.
Highsec got clubbed like a baby seal over expecting anything but poor management.
This might have been the intent of the story line though. Think about it. The intent was to stop a pirate lab, it failed.
Now the expansion is going to get new content because highsec failed to stop the pirates.
Of course this is semi-scripted stuff really. Imagine if there was a successful fleet that accomplished the Empires' goals. What would that have meant? OK, pirates failed, no new content?
And if that were known, that is, if CCP said: If successful, that new content we announced for Rubicon will not happen.
Yeah nobody would have shown up for that one.
Of course if I saw what a pimp-ship elitist ISK fountain incursions were to become when introduced as static content I would have said to hell with it let Sansha destroy the empires.
I wonder what articles will be online over this? Any published yet? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
5104
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:28:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:CCP LEADS LEMMINGS/SHEEP TO SLAUGHTER.
This and other news, tonight at 11.
Should've GM Shield Extendered
Maybe next they'll have GM mindlinks that can give their pets massive shield bonuses or something |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1089
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Posted - 2013.11.08 00:29:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. So spare your fake elitism. Not all of us get to join an organization that specifically gears it's internal rhetoric towards people with low self esteem, and most of us can see through it. So all you are doing is boring me.
Why do you post things like this? They just make you look like a bitter child. |
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