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Paul Otichoda Electric Sun Associates 48	Posted - 2013.11.07 21:54:00 - [1] - Quote Ok lets side step all the complaining that CCP set up high sec players to be killed or that they co-operated the nulls. The fact is this even reveals some depressing info about the balance in military power between null sec alliances and high sec players. In a very short time these alliances were able to throw together a very effective blockade of a single system kept hidden until shortly before the battle took place using heavy assault cruisers and other advanced tech 2 ships. Meanwhile high sec players for the most part advanced in randomly organised fleets formed from chat and such lacking proper co-ordination. This combined with the tidi that split most of the overall force up meant that numerical superiority was lost. The end result a massacre in which for the most part ships came in small groups which where easily destroyed. After the event completed (I'm still not sure if it did or not) high sec forces turned into a free for all. The conclusion that can be drawn from this is that if certain people get their way and all of eve becomes like null sec then the former high sec population is going to get massacred. And goodness knows what's the POCOs situation is going to be like when Rubicon arrives.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 3556	Posted - 2013.11.07 21:57:00 - [2] - Quote Maybe
dexington Dexington Corporation 840	Posted - 2013.11.07 21:59:00 - [3] - Quote Who cares... join a null corp and you are safe, or save some time and money and just quit playing right now...
Anslo The Scope Gallente Federation 3160	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:00:00 - [4] - Quote See this is what pisses me off about the current 'peeveepee' crowd. It used to be about gudfites. Now it's just about collecting tears and telling people to deal with it or leave? AND THEN you have the balls to *** about people not coming to low and nul? Give me a ***** break. What happened to the game I loved man?
masternerdguy Inner Shadow C.L.O.N.E. 1306	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:01:00 - [5] - Quote How dare the best man win.
dexington Dexington Corporation 840	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:03:00 - [6] - Quote Anslo wrote: What happened to the game I loved man? don't know i never played hello kitty online...
Skeln Thargensen Alpha Sperglords 271	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:03:00 - [7] - Quote it's almost like they hold them midweek with little notice for some reason. ever see an elephant have sex with a pig? that's really the sort of server pornographjy that happens with this sort of thing.
Anslo The Scope Gallente Federation 3160	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:04:00 - [8] - Quote dexington wrote: Anslo wrote: What happened to the game I loved man? don't know i never played hello kitty online... Coming from a gankbear who's major KB padding source are hulks, your **** talk's worth about as much Mittani's quiet capital construction offer.
Fer'isam K'ahn None Of One 35	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:05:00 - [9] - Quote Yeah, looks a bit like: "Grow some Balls!" Said the guy sitting on a blaster cannon to the native holding a stick -¦-¦ On a different matter i think its part of the Rubicon background and I take it as a man (even though I might have enjoyed a bit more from it)
Anomaly One Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 41	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:06:00 - [10] - Quote dexington wrote: Anslo wrote: What happened to the game I loved man? don't know i never played hello kitty online... Because having challenging fights instead of killing people who even if they were dc'ed would have made no difference is the same as playing hello kitty online.
Baaldor In Igne Morim Easily Excited 176	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:08:00 - [11] - Quote Paul Otichoda wrote: Ok lets side step all the complaining that CCP set up high sec players to be killed or that they co-operated the nulls. This part right here is the funniest part...CCP has all my 5's on this one.
Jythier Smith Sequestration INC. Harmonic Convergence 52	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:09:00 - [12] - Quote Weren't they supposed to show up in crummy ships? That was part of the call. Show up in stuff you don't care if you lose. Whatever, of course they get trashed by those who showed up in whatever they wanted.
Paul Otichoda Electric Sun Associates 51	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:10:00 - [13] - Quote Baaldor wrote: Paul Otichoda wrote: Ok lets side step all the complaining that CCP set up high sec players to be killed or that they co-operated the nulls. This part right here is the funniest part...CCP has all my 5's on this one. I didn't want for this thread to devolve into a debate on in game conspiracy theories. I wanted analysis of what this battle says about the balance of power in game.
dexington Dexington Corporation 840	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:12:00 - [14] - Quote Anomaly One wrote: dexington wrote: Anslo wrote: What happened to the game I loved man? don't know i never played hello kitty online... Because having challenging fights instead of killing people who even if they were dc'ed would have made no difference is the same as playing hello kitty online. Because in eve online you don't cry about jumping a low-sec gate and losing you ship, you get a ***** warning telling you what you are about to do. If you do it anyways and lose your ship, and then run to the forums crying, you are a god damn ** and they game would be better if you just left. People lose spaceships because they do stupid things, but when you decide it's better to cry then to learn from you mistakes you are so ***** stupid eve online is just not a game you have then mental capacity to play.
Fer'isam K'ahn None Of One 35	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:14:00 - [15] - Quote Paul Otichoda wrote: Baaldor wrote: Paul Otichoda wrote: Ok lets side step all the complaining that CCP set up high sec players to be killed or that they co-operated the nulls. This part right here is the funniest part...CCP has all my 5's on this one. I didn't want for this thread to devolve into a debate on in game conspiracy theories. I wanted analysis of what this battle says about the balance of power in game. Why ? There was never a question about where the power is ... no analysis needed. Everyone in high sec who was kidding himself into believing they could stand up against even a low alliance, you know what a delusion is, right ?
Anslo The Scope Gallente Federation 3161	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:15:00 - [16] - Quote dexington wrote: Because in eve online you don't cry about jumping a low-sec gate and losing you ship, you get a ***** warning telling you what you are about to do. If you do it anyways and lose your ship, and then run to the forums crying, you are a god damn ** and they game would be better if you just left. Says the guy who doesn't step foot into nul and ganks miners like a 'bad ass.' Quote: People lose spaceships because they do stupid things, but when you decide it's better to cry then to learn from you mistakes you are so ***** stupid eve online is just not a game you have then mental capacity to play. Is that why you stay in high sec? Lost too many ships to people who shoot back? Nerd.
Garandras Black Aces Against ALL Authorities 27	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:16:00 - [17] - Quote So what was the actual target of this Live event? Hearing alot of tears but not what they were saposed to be doing.. I would of kinda expected them to use empire titans to bridge into the dest location to avoid the issues they had here, but then again I expect that CCP wanted to bring the High sec peps into PvP.. it just didnt go anywhere near aswell as they hopped
Anslo The Scope Gallente Federation 3165	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:18:00 - [18] - Quote It was to introduce the Ghost Sites for Rubicon via an event. There's a chronicle about it on the wiki. Welp.
La Nariz GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1119	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:20:00 - [19] - Quote Anslo wrote: See this is what pisses me off about the current 'peeveepee' crowd. It used to be about gudfites. Now it's just about collecting tears and telling people to deal with it or leave? AND THEN you have the balls to *** about people not coming to low and nul? Give me a ***** break. What happened to the game I loved man? People do things for different reasons wow what a shocker. The game you loved is being strangled by highsec people, hence why the event happened in null/lowsec :smug:.
dexington Dexington Corporation 842	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:22:00 - [20] - Quote Anslo wrote: dexington wrote: Because in eve online you don't cry about jumping a low-sec gate and losing you ship, you get a ***** warning telling you what you are about to do. If you do it anyways and lose your ship, and then run to the forums crying, you are a god damn ** and they game would be better if you just left. Says the guy who doesn't step foot into nul and ganks miners like a 'bad ass.' Quote: People lose spaceships because they do stupid things, but when you decide it's better to cry then to learn from you mistakes you are so *** stupid eve online is just not a game you have then mental capacity to play. Is that why you stay in high sec? Lost too many ships to people who shoot back? Nerd. Maybe you you should just find a game where you can pick flowers, while you watch brokeback mountain. ****.
Richard Ramlrez Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:23:00 - [21] - Quote Well it certainly introduced a lot of tears.
Paul Otichoda Electric Sun Associates 52	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:24:00 - [22] - Quote Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Too bad for the gate campers too because I was going to bring my deadspace fit Comet. I always wear my best out to the live events. If it was a PVP event and not a Live Event, I had a pile of Kestrels to throw at that. I think the original plan was for two 'character' fleets to move into the systems to fight with each other while players supported them in attacking/defending the objective. The only problem being is that on the null sec side one of the alliances (CFC I think) shot the pirate fleet and on the empire side the navy warped in without player support due to the tidi I understand the gallente/minnitar leader was podded. The result is that everyone got shot and it rapidly turned into a pvp gate camp. Though I will admit on the incursions corps I did get word that there was some activity from a incursion alliance but I don't know how big or if it was an alliance move or just some members of it coming along to see it.
Scatim Helicon GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 2581	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:25:00 - [23] - Quote Garandras wrote: So what was the actual target of this Live event? Highseccers morale.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 3559	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:25:00 - [24] - Quote La Nariz wrote: Anslo wrote: See this is what pisses me off about the current 'peeveepee' crowd. It used to be about gudfites. Now it's just about collecting tears and telling people to deal with it or leave? AND THEN you have the balls to *** about people not coming to low and nul? Give me a ***** break. What happened to the game I loved man? People do things for different reasons wow what a shocker. The game you loved is being strangled by highsec people, hence why the event happened in null/lowsec :smug:. I have yet to see one location of player strangle another. Stop it with this strawman. Are goons limited to only a few talking points?
Amber Kurvora Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance 67	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:26:00 - [25] - Quote dexington wrote: Anomaly One wrote: dexington wrote: Anslo wrote: What happened to the game I loved man? don't know i never played hello kitty online... Because having challenging fights instead of killing people who even if they were dc'ed would have made no difference is the same as playing hello kitty online. Because in eve online you don't cry about jumping a low-sec gate and losing you ship, you get a ***** warning telling you what you are about to do. If you do it anyways and lose your ship, and then run to the forums crying, you are a god damn ** and they game would be better if you just left. People lose spaceships because they do stupid things, but when you decide it's better to cry then to learn from you mistakes you are so ***** stupid eve online is just not a game you have then mental capacity to play. Take a deep breath and remember one thing: People play the game for different reasons. You're utterly right, people lose ships for stupid reasons, but ranting at people isn't going to help convince them to try risking their butt for fun. Personally I like the fact that Eve attracts all sorts - from PvPers to RPing, to the scammers. It adds diversity to the whole affair.
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 3559	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:28:00 - [26] - Quote Paul Otichoda wrote: Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Too bad for the gate campers too because I was going to bring my deadspace fit Comet. I always wear my best out to the live events. If it was a PVP event and not a Live Event, I had a pile of Kestrels to throw at that. I think the original plan was for two 'character' fleets to move into the systems to fight with each other while players supported them in attacking/defending the objective. The only problem being is that on the null sec side one of the alliances (CFC I think) shot the pirate fleet and on the empire side the navy warped in without player support due to the tidi I understand the gallente/minnitar leader was podded. The result is that everyone got shot and it rapidly turned into a pvp gate camp. Though I will admit on the incursions corps I did get word that there was some activity from a incursion alliance but I don't know how big or if it was an alliance move or just some members of it coming along to see it. Heh. I didn't know that. Thanks for the report. Well, it was certainly an interesting outcome to say the least. Pro Tip for CCP: Next time you want actors jumping into nullsec to advertise new content, find a way to cyno the backup. Wonder how many people are going to use this as a "CCP does not play its own game" argument? I never believed that before when I read it, but today it got just a little harder It's of no surprise to me that some elements of content and "storyline" got rubbed out by the usual "kill everything that moves" approach of differing game cultures. Reminds me of the time when 6 missing bombers pertinent to the backstory of the game were discovered in a wormhole - and got blown up for "PVP reasons".
PotatoOverdose Handsome Millionaire Playboys 537	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:29:00 - [27] - Quote So....Organized null sec fleet destroys ragtag bunch of mission boats and worse. More at 11.
Anomaly One Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:32:00 - [28] - Quote dexington wrote: Anomaly One wrote: dexington wrote: Anslo wrote: What happened to the game I loved man? don't know i never played hello kitty online... Because having challenging fights instead of killing people who even if they were dc'ed would have made no difference is the same as playing hello kitty online. Because in eve online you don't cry about jumping a low-sec gate and losing you ship, you get a ***** warning telling you what you are about to do. If you do it anyways and lose your ship, and then run to the forums crying, you are a god damn ** and they game would be better if you just left. People lose spaceships because they do stupid things, but when you decide it's better to cry then to learn from you mistakes you are so ***** stupid eve online is just not a game you have then mental capacity to play. maybe one day you will get your way and all eve will be filled with cutthroats who dock up when they see each other. http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=839106&m=10&y=2013
Paul Otichoda Electric Sun Associates 52	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:35:00 - [29] - Quote Garandras wrote: So what was the actual target of this Live event? Hearing alot of tears but not what they were saposed to be doing.. I would of kinda expected them to use empire titans to bridge into the dest location to avoid the issues they had here, but then again I expect that CCP wanted to bring the High sec peps into PvP.. it just didnt go anywhere near aswell as they hopped another good issue, they said we were there to destroy a pirate research station (creating those upcoming inplants) but for 1 I was never actually told where the station was or how to destroy it. So yeah. Would like to see an image of what we where actually supposed to destroy.
KuroVolt The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance 963	Posted - 2013.11.07 22:38:00 - [30] - Quote See, even if a group of High Seccers became really organised and managed to defeat one of the Null Sec Cartels and subsequently take their space, the other High Sec inhabitants would just start regarding them as yet another Null Sec Cartel.

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