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Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
48
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Posted - 2013.11.07 21:54:00 -
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Ok lets side step all the complaining that CCP set up high sec players to be killed or that they co-operated the nulls. The fact is this even reveals some depressing info about the balance in military power between null sec alliances and high sec players.
In a very short time these alliances were able to throw together a very effective blockade of a single system kept hidden until shortly before the battle took place using heavy assault cruisers and other advanced tech 2 ships. Meanwhile high sec players for the most part advanced in randomly organised fleets formed from chat and such lacking proper co-ordination. This combined with the tidi that split most of the overall force up meant that numerical superiority was lost.
The end result a massacre in which for the most part ships came in small groups which where easily destroyed. After the event completed (I'm still not sure if it did or not) high sec forces turned into a free for all.
The conclusion that can be drawn from this is that if certain people get their way and all of eve becomes like null sec then the former high sec population is going to get massacred. And goodness knows what's the POCOs situation is going to be like when Rubicon arrives. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3556
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Posted - 2013.11.07 21:57:00 -
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Maybe |

dexington
Dexington Corporation
840
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Posted - 2013.11.07 21:59:00 -
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Who cares... join a null corp and you are safe, or save some time and money and just quit playing right now...
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3160
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:00:00 -
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See this is what pisses me off about the current 'peeveepee' crowd. It used to be about gudfites. Now it's just about collecting tears and telling people to deal with it or leave? AND THEN you have the balls to ***** about people not coming to low and nul?
Give me a ******* break. What happened to the game I loved man? |

masternerdguy
Inner Shadow C.L.O.N.E.
1306
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:01:00 -
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How dare the best man win. |

dexington
Dexington Corporation
840
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:03:00 -
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Anslo wrote:What happened to the game I loved man?
don't know i never played hello kitty online... |

Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
271
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:03:00 -
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it's almost like they hold them midweek with little notice for some reason.
ever see an elephant have sex with a pig? that's really the sort of server pornographjy that happens with this sort of thing. |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3160
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:04:00 -
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dexington wrote:Anslo wrote:What happened to the game I loved man? don't know i never played hello kitty online... Coming from a gankbear who's major KB padding source are hulks, your **** talk's worth about as much Mittani's quiet capital construction offer. |

Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
35
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:05:00 -
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Yeah, looks a bit like:
"Grow some Balls!" Said the guy sitting on a blaster cannon to the native holding a stick -¦-¦
On a different matter i think its part of the Rubicon background and I take it as a man (even though I might have enjoyed a bit more from it) |

Anomaly One
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
41
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:06:00 -
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dexington wrote:Anslo wrote:What happened to the game I loved man? don't know i never played hello kitty online...
Because having challenging fights instead of killing people who even if they were dc'ed would have made no difference is the same as playing hello kitty online.
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Baaldor
In Igne Morim Easily Excited
176
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:08:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:Ok lets side step all the complaining that CCP set up high sec players to be killed or that they co-operated the nulls.
This part right here is the funniest part...CCP has all my 5's on this one.
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Jythier Smith
Sequestration INC. Harmonic Convergence
52
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:09:00 -
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Weren't they supposed to show up in crummy ships? That was part of the call. Show up in stuff you don't care if you lose.
Whatever, of course they get trashed by those who showed up in whatever they wanted. |

Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
51
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:10:00 -
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Baaldor wrote:Paul Otichoda wrote:Ok lets side step all the complaining that CCP set up high sec players to be killed or that they co-operated the nulls. This part right here is the funniest part...CCP has all my 5's on this one.
I didn't want for this thread to devolve into a debate on in game conspiracy theories. I wanted analysis of what this battle says about the balance of power in game. |

dexington
Dexington Corporation
840
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:12:00 -
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Anomaly One wrote:dexington wrote:Anslo wrote:What happened to the game I loved man? don't know i never played hello kitty online... Because having challenging fights instead of killing people who even if they were dc'ed would have made no difference is the same as playing hello kitty online.
Because in eve online you don't cry about jumping a low-sec gate and losing you ship, you get a ******* warning telling you what you are about to do. If you do it anyways and lose your ship, and then run to the forums crying, you are a god damn ****** and they game would be better if you just left.
People lose spaceships because they do stupid things, but when you decide it's better to cry then to learn from you mistakes you are so ******* stupid eve online is just not a game you have then mental capacity to play. |

Fer'isam K'ahn
None Of One
35
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:14:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:Baaldor wrote:Paul Otichoda wrote:Ok lets side step all the complaining that CCP set up high sec players to be killed or that they co-operated the nulls. This part right here is the funniest part...CCP has all my 5's on this one. I didn't want for this thread to devolve into a debate on in game conspiracy theories. I wanted analysis of what this battle says about the balance of power in game.
Why ? There was never a question about where the power is ... no analysis needed. Everyone in high sec who was kidding himself into believing they could stand up against even a low alliance, you know what a delusion is, right ?
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3161
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:15:00 -
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dexington wrote:Because in eve online you don't cry about jumping a low-sec gate and losing you ship, you get a ******* warning telling you what you are about to do. If you do it anyways and lose your ship, and then run to the forums crying, you are a god damn ****** and they game would be better if you just left. Says the guy who doesn't step foot into nul and ganks miners like a 'bad ass.'
Quote:People lose spaceships because they do stupid things, but when you decide it's better to cry then to learn from you mistakes you are so ******* stupid eve online is just not a game you have then mental capacity to play. Is that why you stay in high sec? Lost too many ships to people who shoot back?
Nerd.
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Garandras
Black Aces Against ALL Authorities
27
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:16:00 -
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So what was the actual target of this Live event?
Hearing alot of tears but not what they were saposed to be doing..
I would of kinda expected them to use empire titans to bridge into the dest location to avoid the issues they had here, but then again I expect that CCP wanted to bring the High sec peps into PvP.. it just didnt go anywhere near aswell as they hopped |

Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3165
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:18:00 -
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It was to introduce the Ghost Sites for Rubicon via an event. There's a chronicle about it on the wiki. Welp. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1119
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:20:00 -
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Anslo wrote:See this is what pisses me off about the current 'peeveepee' crowd. It used to be about gudfites. Now it's just about collecting tears and telling people to deal with it or leave? AND THEN you have the balls to ***** about people not coming to low and nul?
Give me a ******* break. What happened to the game I loved man?
People do things for different reasons wow what a shocker. The game you loved is being strangled by highsec people, hence why the event happened in null/lowsec :smug:. |

dexington
Dexington Corporation
842
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:22:00 -
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Anslo wrote:dexington wrote:Because in eve online you don't cry about jumping a low-sec gate and losing you ship, you get a ******* warning telling you what you are about to do. If you do it anyways and lose your ship, and then run to the forums crying, you are a god damn ****** and they game would be better if you just left. Says the guy who doesn't step foot into nul and ganks miners like a 'bad ass.' Quote:People lose spaceships because they do stupid things, but when you decide it's better to cry then to learn from you mistakes you are so ******* stupid eve online is just not a game you have then mental capacity to play. Is that why you stay in high sec? Lost too many ships to people who shoot back? Nerd.
Maybe you you should just find a game where you can pick flowers, while you watch brokeback mountain.
******. |
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Richard Ramlrez
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
26
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:23:00 -
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Well it certainly introduced a lot of tears. |

Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
52
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:24:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Too bad for the gate campers too because I was going to bring my deadspace fit Comet. I always wear my best out to the live events. If it was a PVP event and not a Live Event, I had a pile of Kestrels to throw at that.
I think the original plan was for two 'character' fleets to move into the systems to fight with each other while players supported them in attacking/defending the objective. The only problem being is that on the null sec side one of the alliances (CFC I think) shot the pirate fleet and on the empire side the navy warped in without player support due to the tidi I understand the gallente/minnitar leader was podded. The result is that everyone got shot and it rapidly turned into a pvp gate camp.
Though I will admit on the incursions corps I did get word that there was some activity from a incursion alliance but I don't know how big or if it was an alliance move or just some members of it coming along to see it. |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2581
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:25:00 -
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Garandras wrote:So what was the actual target of this Live event? Highseccers morale. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3559
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:25:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Anslo wrote:See this is what pisses me off about the current 'peeveepee' crowd. It used to be about gudfites. Now it's just about collecting tears and telling people to deal with it or leave? AND THEN you have the balls to ***** about people not coming to low and nul?
Give me a ******* break. What happened to the game I loved man? People do things for different reasons wow what a shocker. The game you loved is being strangled by highsec people, hence why the event happened in null/lowsec :smug:.
I have yet to see one location of player strangle another. Stop it with this strawman. Are goons limited to only a few talking points? |

Amber Kurvora
Turalyon Plus Turalyon Alliance
67
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:26:00 -
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dexington wrote:Anomaly One wrote:dexington wrote:Anslo wrote:What happened to the game I loved man? don't know i never played hello kitty online... Because having challenging fights instead of killing people who even if they were dc'ed would have made no difference is the same as playing hello kitty online. Because in eve online you don't cry about jumping a low-sec gate and losing you ship, you get a ******* warning telling you what you are about to do. If you do it anyways and lose your ship, and then run to the forums crying, you are a god damn ****** and they game would be better if you just left. People lose spaceships because they do stupid things, but when you decide it's better to cry then to learn from you mistakes you are so ******* stupid eve online is just not a game you have then mental capacity to play.
Take a deep breath and remember one thing: People play the game for different reasons. You're utterly right, people lose ships for stupid reasons, but ranting at people isn't going to help convince them to try risking their butt for fun.
Personally I like the fact that Eve attracts all sorts - from PvPers to RPing, to the scammers. It adds diversity to the whole affair. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3559
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:28:00 -
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Paul Otichoda wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Too bad for the gate campers too because I was going to bring my deadspace fit Comet. I always wear my best out to the live events. If it was a PVP event and not a Live Event, I had a pile of Kestrels to throw at that.
I think the original plan was for two 'character' fleets to move into the systems to fight with each other while players supported them in attacking/defending the objective. The only problem being is that on the null sec side one of the alliances (CFC I think) shot the pirate fleet and on the empire side the navy warped in without player support due to the tidi I understand the gallente/minnitar leader was podded. The result is that everyone got shot and it rapidly turned into a pvp gate camp. Though I will admit on the incursions corps I did get word that there was some activity from a incursion alliance but I don't know how big or if it was an alliance move or just some members of it coming along to see it.
Heh. I didn't know that. Thanks for the report.
Well, it was certainly an interesting outcome to say the least.
Pro Tip for CCP: Next time you want actors jumping into nullsec to advertise new content, find a way to cyno the backup.
Wonder how many people are going to use this as a "CCP does not play its own game" argument? I never believed that before when I read it, but today it got just a little harder 
It's of no surprise to me that some elements of content and "storyline" got rubbed out by the usual "kill everything that moves" approach of differing game cultures.
Reminds me of the time when 6 missing bombers pertinent to the backstory of the game were discovered in a wormhole - and got blown up for "PVP reasons". |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
537
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:29:00 -
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So....Organized null sec fleet destroys ragtag bunch of mission boats and worse. More at 11. |

Anomaly One
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:32:00 -
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dexington wrote:Anomaly One wrote:dexington wrote:Anslo wrote:What happened to the game I loved man? don't know i never played hello kitty online... Because having challenging fights instead of killing people who even if they were dc'ed would have made no difference is the same as playing hello kitty online. Because in eve online you don't cry about jumping a low-sec gate and losing you ship, you get a ******* warning telling you what you are about to do. If you do it anyways and lose your ship, and then run to the forums crying, you are a god damn ****** and they game would be better if you just left. People lose spaceships because they do stupid things, but when you decide it's better to cry then to learn from you mistakes you are so ******* stupid eve online is just not a game you have then mental capacity to play.
maybe one day you will get your way and all eve will be filled with cutthroats who dock up when they see each other.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&view=kills&plt_id=839106&m=10&y=2013 |

Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
52
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:35:00 -
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Garandras wrote:So what was the actual target of this Live event?
Hearing alot of tears but not what they were saposed to be doing..
I would of kinda expected them to use empire titans to bridge into the dest location to avoid the issues they had here, but then again I expect that CCP wanted to bring the High sec peps into PvP.. it just didnt go anywhere near aswell as they hopped
another good issue, they said we were there to destroy a pirate research station (creating those upcoming inplants) but for 1 I was never actually told where the station was or how to destroy it. So yeah.
Would like to see an image of what we where actually supposed to destroy. |

KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
963
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:38:00 -
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See, even if a group of High Seccers became really organised and managed to defeat one of the *Null Sec Cartels* and subsequently take their space, the other High Sec inhabitants would just start regarding them as yet another *Null Sec Cartel*. |
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3559
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:43:00 -
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One thing is certain, if there was a goal to introduce highsec players to nullsec PVP, this is not the way to do it.
All they did was damage it.
Already the notion about nullsec is "You jump in, get podded. Nullsec."
And in the Live Events channel, I was seeing that. "Made it into the system, in a pod now".
Nullsec players will be smug about this for a while, then go back to wondering why they are so bored until their bosses decide to fight over something or go back to camping gates with disposable alts in highsec.
With this level of damage done, CCP will never be able to do something like this again. Next time they try this, it'll be a fleet of T1 frigs or everybody simply deciding not to pad someone else's killboard.
And if the only way to avoid ending up on someone else's killboard is to avoid them, then that's exactly what will happen. |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
527
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:47:00 -
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So.....empire players missed the fact that there was a CTA for people to fight against empire, and missed their AP telling them they were going to null and missed the fact that maybe they should bring guns, and it turned out that null preferred to fight against empire than for it. http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/join-the-pirates-and-defend-their-assets
How anyone read that and thought "This will be a PvE only event" is beyond me..... |

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1886
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:47:00 -
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I think comparing high sec vs. null sec power is sort of comparing apples and oranges, in this case. The high sec guys were a crowd of uncoordinated strangers, probably fit for PVE. Wandering into an area where everybody is ready for PVP at any time, in the same alliance, and easily able to communicate and coordinate with each other. It's kind of like a hockey team wandered into an armed infantry base. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1119
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:50:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:La Nariz wrote:Anslo wrote:See this is what pisses me off about the current 'peeveepee' crowd. It used to be about gudfites. Now it's just about collecting tears and telling people to deal with it or leave? AND THEN you have the balls to ***** about people not coming to low and nul?
Give me a ******* break. What happened to the game I loved man? People do things for different reasons wow what a shocker. The game you loved is being strangled by highsec people, hence why the event happened in null/lowsec :smug:. I have yet to see one location of player strangle another. Stop it with this strawman. Are goons limited to only a few talking points?
I can't fault you for not seeing it, as a highsec dweller your viewpoint is limited to only highsec. Since you're limited to highsec I'll give you a highsec argument. Perform a peer reviewed quintuple-blind study that gets published in Cell to prove that highsec is not strangling the game, or else I'm right :smug:. |

Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
52
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:52:00 -
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yeah when I saw that I new this was going to be a pvp event. But even I didn't realise what it was going to be like. And yes I did see a lot of new people to pvp tagging along and having a go. This is admirable, pity the result was a mess. |

Karrl Tian
Beers for Tears
231
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:53:00 -
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KuroVolt wrote:See, even if a group of High Seccers became really organised and managed to defeat one of the *Null Sec Cartels* and subsequently take their space, the other High Sec inhabitants would just start regarding them as yet another *Null Sec Cartel*.
So...basically Nullsec is Wal-Mart? |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
538
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:54:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:... Already the notion about nullsec is "You jump in, get podded. Nullsec." ... Next time they try this, it'll be a fleet of T1 frigs...
1) Putting everyone in a uniform fleet comp (t1 frigs) consisting of ships with similar capabilities in terms of speed, align time, tracking, and optimals would be a massive improvement over today's showing.
2) Did you have a forward scout? Did you have a designated FC? Was everyone on voice comms? Did you have a proper fleet comp? If you can't answer yes to those four questions, you will always get podded in nullsec.
Welcome to the real game, that is to say, not shooting red crosses and rocks in complete safety. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3560
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:55:00 -
[38] - Quote
La Nariz wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:La Nariz wrote:Anslo wrote:See this is what pisses me off about the current 'peeveepee' crowd. It used to be about gudfites. Now it's just about collecting tears and telling people to deal with it or leave? AND THEN you have the balls to ***** about people not coming to low and nul?
Give me a ******* break. What happened to the game I loved man? People do things for different reasons wow what a shocker. The game you loved is being strangled by highsec people, hence why the event happened in null/lowsec :smug:. I have yet to see one location of player strangle another. Stop it with this strawman. Are goons limited to only a few talking points? I can't fault you for not seeing it, as a highsec dweller your viewpoint is limited to only highsec. Since you're limited to highsec I'll give you a highsec argument. Perform a peer reviewed quintuple-blind study that gets published in Cell to prove that highsec is not strangling the game, or else I'm right :smug:.
I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. So spare your fake elitism. Not all of us get to join an organization that specifically gears it's internal rhetoric towards people with low self esteem, and most of us and see through it. So all you are doing is boring me.
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Atlantis Fuanan
Uncharted Skies Cerberus Unleashed
53
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:56:00 -
[39] - Quote
In the end, it was, atleast for me, a wonderfull demonstration how "awesome" cyno's can work. (No travel, insta-blob-fest) Beside the stupidity for telling Hisec participants to move around 16 jumps with tidi 10% (most of the time), it was at some point unclear if the event is still going on or has been finished "by objective". I still believe that all the great plan behind this was to burn ISK. Atleast this got completed! |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
538
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:58:00 -
[40] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. Holy cow, this man anchored a bubble once! Clearly, he knows what he's about. |
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Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4390
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:59:00 -
[41] - Quote
People of highsec have only themselves to blame and nobody else.
If they could use their brains and stop caring only about their own interests, they'd not be such worthless, shame-full, embarrassing victims.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3560
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Posted - 2013.11.07 22:59:00 -
[42] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:... Already the notion about nullsec is "You jump in, get podded. Nullsec." ... Next time they try this, it'll be a fleet of T1 frigs...
1) Putting everyone in a uniform fleet comp (t1 frigs) consisting of ships with similar capabilities in terms of speed, align time, tracking, and optimals would be a massive improvement over today's showing. 2) Did you have a forward scout? Did you have a designated FC? Was everyone on voice comms? Did you have a proper fleet comp? If you can't answer yes to those four questions, you will always get podded in nullsec. Welcome to the real game, that is to say, not shooting red crosses and rocks in complete safety.
I spend months at a time in nullsec reaping the rewards and avoiding the internal drama and nerd rage. I have one account, I never used scouts.
"you will always get podded in nullsec".
I'll let Infinity Ziona describe how incorrect that statement is.
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KuroVolt
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
965
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:00:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. Holy cow, this man anchored a bubble once! Clearly, he knows what he's about.
Quote:military experts are calling this a cynosural field |

Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
272
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:02:00 -
[44] - Quote
oh yeah and just post 'gf' in local should this happen. it's a proven desalination technique. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1119
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:02:00 -
[45] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. So spare your fake elitism. Not all of us get to join an organization that specifically gears it's internal rhetoric towards people with low self esteem, and most of us can see through it. So all you are doing is boring me.
I'm not hearing proof against highsec strangling the game, I guess that means I'm right :smug:. |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
538
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:04:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:... Already the notion about nullsec is "You jump in, get podded. Nullsec." ... Next time they try this, it'll be a fleet of T1 frigs...
1) Putting everyone in a uniform fleet comp (t1 frigs) consisting of ships with similar capabilities in terms of speed, align time, tracking, and optimals would be a massive improvement over today's showing. 2) Did you have a forward scout? Did you have a designated FC? Was everyone on voice comms? Did you have a proper fleet comp? If you can't answer yes to those four questions, you will always get podded in nullsec. Welcome to the real game, that is to say, not shooting red crosses and rocks in complete safety. I spend months at a time in nullsec reaping the rewards and avoiding the internal drama and nerd rage. I have one account, I never used scouts. "you will always get podded in nullsec". I'll let Infinity Ziona describe how incorrect that statement is. Herzog, you've convinced me. With your superior bubble anchoring experience, I hereby crown you king of hisec. Rally your forces, and purge null sec of the filthy nullbears in retribution for today's atrocities.
Go now, your people await! |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1119
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:08:00 -
[47] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote: Herzog, you've convinced me. With your superior bubble anchoring experience, I hereby crown you king of hisec. Rally your forces, and purge null sec of the filthy nullbears in retribution for today's atrocities.
Go now, your people await!
Hell no, Harry Forever is the ~King of Highsec~, that highsec dweller will have to fight him for the title. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3560
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:10:00 -
[48] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:... Already the notion about nullsec is "You jump in, get podded. Nullsec." ... Next time they try this, it'll be a fleet of T1 frigs...
1) Putting everyone in a uniform fleet comp (t1 frigs) consisting of ships with similar capabilities in terms of speed, align time, tracking, and optimals would be a massive improvement over today's showing. 2) Did you have a forward scout? Did you have a designated FC? Was everyone on voice comms? Did you have a proper fleet comp? If you can't answer yes to those four questions, you will always get podded in nullsec. Welcome to the real game, that is to say, not shooting red crosses and rocks in complete safety. I spend months at a time in nullsec reaping the rewards and avoiding the internal drama and nerd rage. I have one account, I never used scouts. "you will always get podded in nullsec". I'll let Infinity Ziona describe how incorrect that statement is. Herzog, you've convinced me. With your superior bubble anchoring experience, I hereby crown you king of hisec. Rally your forces, and purge null sec of the filthy nullbears in retribution for today's atrocities. Go now, your people await!
I play wherever I feel like. Playing cat and mouse in VFK was always fun and I'll do it again some time. I just don't single out people who play differently for some downward comparison. My self esteem never required it. Having seen enough goon idealogy though, it would be great if they didn't boost the self-worth of their own membership at the expense of the rest of the player base.
Reminds me of those guys who used to goose-step all over Europe. |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
539
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Posted - 2013.11.07 23:12:00 -
[49] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Reminds me of those guys who used to goose-step all over Europe.
Yes, people that shoot you in game are a certain type of fascist in real life.  |

Paul Otichoda
Electric Sun Associates
53
|
Posted - 2013.11.07 23:14:00 -
[50] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Reminds me of those guys who used to goose-step all over Europe.
Yes, people that shoot you in game are a certain type of fascist in real life. 
yes it only took 48 posts for us to break Godwins law |
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3172
|
Posted - 2013.11.07 23:18:00 -
[51] - Quote
dexington wrote:Anslo wrote:dexington wrote:Because in eve online you don't cry about jumping a low-sec gate and losing you ship, you get a ******* warning telling you what you are about to do. If you do it anyways and lose your ship, and then run to the forums crying, you are a god damn ****** and they game would be better if you just left. Says the guy who doesn't step foot into nul and ganks miners like a 'bad ass.' Quote:People lose spaceships because they do stupid things, but when you decide it's better to cry then to learn from you mistakes you are so ******* stupid eve online is just not a game you have then mental capacity to play. Is that why you stay in high sec? Lost too many ships to people who shoot back? Nerd. Maybe you you should just find a game where you can pick flowers, while you watch brokeback mountain. ******. lol, this coming from someone who's most risky kill wasa hulk with hobgoblin I's. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3563
|
Posted - 2013.11.07 23:22:00 -
[52] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Reminds me of those guys who used to goose-step all over Europe.
Yes, people that shoot you in game are a certain type of fascist in real life. 
I have roamed, bubbled, and occasionally bombed in goonspace. I don't target cynos as readily as Harry Forever, but I do condone it.
You want to know what's funny about this?
I have yet to actually be shot by a goon. It was always someone else. Most of the shooting at me was done by people who claim to be goon killers.
When I can get back to less-busy weekends maybe I'll get a chance to be shot by goons. Or maybe I'll end up in another section of nullsec. But chances are my time will be taken up fiddling around with some new ships when Rubicon comes.
You'll get your chance.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
7098
|
Posted - 2013.11.07 23:25:00 -
[53] - Quote
CCP LEADS LEMMINGS/SHEEP TO SLAUGHTER.
This and other news, tonight at 11. |

Zimmy Zeta
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
35633
|
Posted - 2013.11.07 23:29:00 -
[54] - Quote
Paul Otichoda wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Reminds me of those guys who used to goose-step all over Europe.
Yes, people that shoot you in game are a certain type of fascist in real life.  yes it only took 48 posts for us to break Godwins law
Clarification: Godwin's law was not broken, it was validated.
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baltec1
Bat Country
8456
|
Posted - 2013.11.07 23:38:00 -
[55] - Quote
So I take it high sec is angry over being useless again. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1119
|
Posted - 2013.11.07 23:58:00 -
[56] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:So I take it high sec is angry over being useless again.
Yep. |

tC Jeff
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
1
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 00:14:00 -
[57] - Quote
Just to clear some things up, the surrounding nullsec systems were under heavy TiDi as well. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3566
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 00:23:00 -
[58] - Quote
Having to leave before the fun started, based on the descriptions it would appear that nullsec got a beaten naked tied up women handed to them and they are acting like it was their charm and prowess involved.
Highsec got clubbed like a baby seal over expecting anything but poor management.
This might have been the intent of the story line though. Think about it. The intent was to stop a pirate lab, it failed.
Now the expansion is going to get new content because highsec failed to stop the pirates.
Of course this is semi-scripted stuff really. Imagine if there was a successful fleet that accomplished the Empires' goals. What would that have meant? OK, pirates failed, no new content?
And if that were known, that is, if CCP said: If successful, that new content we announced for Rubicon will not happen.
Yeah nobody would have shown up for that one.
Of course if I saw what a pimp-ship elitist ISK fountain incursions were to become when introduced as static content I would have said to hell with it let Sansha destroy the empires.
I wonder what articles will be online over this? Any published yet? |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5104
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 00:28:00 -
[59] - Quote
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:CCP LEADS LEMMINGS/SHEEP TO SLAUGHTER.
This and other news, tonight at 11. Should've GM Shield Extendered
Maybe next they'll have GM mindlinks that can give their pets massive shield bonuses or something |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1089
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 00:29:00 -
[60] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. So spare your fake elitism. Not all of us get to join an organization that specifically gears it's internal rhetoric towards people with low self esteem, and most of us can see through it. So all you are doing is boring me.
Why do you post things like this? They just make you look like a bitter child. |
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Sidrat Flush
Deadly Harmony
154
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 00:40:00 -
[61] - Quote
Anslo wrote:See this is what pisses me off about the current 'peeveepee' crowd. It used to be about gudfites. Now it's just about collecting tears and telling people to deal with it or leave? AND THEN you have the balls to ***** about people not coming to low and nul?
Give me a ******* break. What happened to the game I loved man?
Has it ever really been about gudfights? E-bushido was only ever in the meta game.
Its not difficult to find and join a null corp/alliance that fits with your play style and language. Most are laid back you just need the will to adapt listen learn and prosper.
Having spent many many years in empire and null staying in one space for too long means you can forget how to adapt. While some don't like change or adapting those that can and prove themselves will one day if they want be called FC's at any level they wish to attain for themselves. Or how about a master of production for alliances and coalition blocs? Never forget the unsung heroes that move things from a-b and different things back to a again.
Empire null low or WH isn't really about the rubbish game mechanics it's about the people you fly with and the enemies you can make on the way and have a beer with at some meet up months or years down the line.
Find an existing niche or create your own and start enjoying the game for what it is. |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3252
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 00:40:00 -
[62] - Quote
Paul Otichoda wrote:Ok lets side step all the complaining that CCP set up high sec players to be killed or that they co-operated the nulls. The fact is this even reveals some depressing info about the balance in military power between null sec alliances and high sec players.
In a very short time these alliances were able to throw together a very effective blockade of a single system kept hidden until shortly before the battle took place using heavy assault cruisers and other advanced tech 2 ships. Meanwhile high sec players for the most part advanced in randomly organised fleets formed from chat and such lacking proper co-ordination. This combined with the tidi that split most of the overall force up meant that numerical superiority was lost.
The end result a massacre in which for the most part ships came in small groups which where easily destroyed. After the event completed (I'm still not sure if it did or not) high sec forces turned into a free for all.
The conclusion that can be drawn from this is that if certain people get their way and all of eve becomes like null sec then the former high sec population is going to get massacred. And goodness knows what's the POCOs situation is going to be like when Rubicon arrives.
Now I'm so sorry I missed it. It sounds incredible..
So the "rugged individualist 'not at all enslaved by the null sec cartel RMT lords'" solo players got massacred by the nullbears able to cooperate with each other long enough to organize and act as one?
What else is new? |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3567
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 00:41:00 -
[63] - Quote
Johnny Marzetti wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. So spare your fake elitism. Not all of us get to join an organization that specifically gears it's internal rhetoric towards people with low self esteem, and most of us can see through it. So all you are doing is boring me.
Why do you post things like this? They just make you look like a bitter child.
Why do you ask? It makes you look like a bitter child trying to make someone else look like a bitter child.
Seriously though, I feel sorry for people who find the goons' "believe in yourself" stuff as some measure of uplift and personal worth.
And now seeing goons gloat over having low hanging fruit handed to them, as if they pulled some massive caper of tactics and capability, is certainly not moving my impressions in any positive direction.
Your post as well. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
8461
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 00:44:00 -
[64] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. So spare your fake elitism. Not all of us get to join an organization that specifically gears it's internal rhetoric towards people with low self esteem, and most of us can see through it. So all you are doing is boring me.
Why do you post things like this? They just make you look like a bitter child. Why do you ask? It makes you look like a bitter child trying to make someone else look like a bitter child. Seriously though, I feel sorry for people who find the goons' "believe in yourself" stuff as some measure of uplift and personal worth. And now seeing goons gloat over having low hanging fruit handed to them, as if they pulled some massive caper of tactics and capability, is certainly not moving my impressions in any positive direction. Your post as well.
Last time we turned up to one of these things our entire fleet was killed by concord within 5 minutes of entering system. |

Captain Tardbar
Sons of Sam
615
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 01:22:00 -
[65] - Quote
Look. I really don't care for other people in high sec. It would be better for business if everyone else got ganked except me.
But this CCP event reeks. I mean I don't trust CCP to begin with, but I'm not giving them money because they are trustworthy people. If it wasn't for the fact they somehow out of this smorgesborg of code made a decent product that I consider giving them my time and money.
However, this kind of crap just leaves a big crap turd taste in my mouth when thinking about CCP.
I suspect CCP is going to run their product in the ground sometime soon.
With the way Dust went I suspect this might be soon. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1096
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 01:27:00 -
[66] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: And now seeing goons gloat over having low hanging fruit handed to them, as if they pulled some massive caper of tactics and capability, is certainly not moving my impressions in any positive direction.
Your post as well.
I'm not trying to impress you or anyone else, I'm just having fun posting on a video game forum. Anyway, goons are not gloating over having low hanging fruit handed to them. Razor is gloating over having low hanging fruit handed to them. Goons aren't Razor, though I'm sure some goons were there too since we're allies. These things really do matter and it tells me a lot about how much you don't know about null that you aren't able to distinguish them.
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Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
1888
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 01:27:00 -
[67] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:La Nariz wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:La Nariz wrote:Anslo wrote:See this is what pisses me off about the current 'peeveepee' crowd. It used to be about gudfites. Now it's just about collecting tears and telling people to deal with it or leave? AND THEN you have the balls to ***** about people not coming to low and nul?
Give me a ******* break. What happened to the game I loved man? People do things for different reasons wow what a shocker. The game you loved is being strangled by highsec people, hence why the event happened in null/lowsec :smug:. I have yet to see one location of player strangle another. Stop it with this strawman. Are goons limited to only a few talking points? I can't fault you for not seeing it, as a highsec dweller your viewpoint is limited to only highsec. Since you're limited to highsec I'll give you a highsec argument. Perform a peer reviewed quintuple-blind study that gets published in Cell to prove that highsec is not strangling the game, or else I'm right :smug:. I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. So spare your fake elitism. Not all of us get to join an organization that specifically gears it's internal rhetoric towards people with low self esteem, and most of us can see through it. So all you are doing is boring me. Right on. Been all around Deklein solo in a Thrasher, and didn't notice a lot of 'leet. Ratting nullbear didn't seem much different than a missioning carebear. I'd be much more scared in low sec Hagilur or Bravigard, in general. (But I can't lie, the few times real gunslingers came out in Deklein, they were pretty damn good). |

Chive Clamson
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 01:31:00 -
[68] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Having to leave before the fun started, based on the descriptions it would appear that nullsec got a beaten naked tied up women handed to them and they are acting like it was their charm and prowess involved.
hey thanks for the **** analogy buddy that was entirely necessary
also wow this whole thing is like, incredibly funny
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Chive Clamson
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 01:32:00 -
[69] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote: Right on. Been all around Deklein solo in a Thrasher, and didn't notice a lot of 'leet. Ratting nullbear didn't seem much different than a missioning carebear. I'd be much more scared in low sec Hagilur or Bravigard, in general. (But I can't lie, the few times real gunslingers came out in Deklein, they were pretty damn good).
whoa you flew around in a thrasher tell me more
did you perhaps destroy a cyno frigate or does only harry forever have access to such pvp prowess
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3572
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 01:32:00 -
[70] - Quote
Johnny Marzetti wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: And now seeing goons gloat over having low hanging fruit handed to them, as if they pulled some massive caper of tactics and capability, is certainly not moving my impressions in any positive direction.
Your post as well.
I'm not trying to impress you or anyone else, I'm just having fun posting on a video game forum. Anyway, goons are not gloating over having low hanging fruit handed to them. Razor is gloating over having low hanging fruit handed to them. Goons aren't Razor, though I'm sure some goons were there too since we're allies. These things really do matter and it tells me a lot about how much you don't know about null that you aren't able to distinguish them.
Now now. I thought about this about 30 minutes ago and what you don't know is that I did not care to distinguish them. 
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Ludi Burek
Toilet Emergency JIHADASQUAD
274
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 02:29:00 -
[71] - Quote
Fascinating what some people view themselves as. Low hanging fruit, tied up females, marginal humans, victims etc...
What causes a man to part with his money and time to role play one of those things in a virtual world and act like they had no choice and were born into that life? |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1099
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 02:37:00 -
[72] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Now now. I thought about this about 30 minutes ago and what you don't know is that I did not care to distinguish them. 
Yeah, I've noticed that a lot of you forum pubbies have latched on to equivocation lately like it's some cool new kind of logic and not a tedious fallacy used by idiots I'd rather not waste my time talking to.
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GetSirrus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
62
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 05:02:00 -
[73] - Quote
La Nariz wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. So spare your fake elitism. Not all of us get to join an organization that specifically gears it's internal rhetoric towards people with low self esteem, and most of us can see through it. So all you are doing is boring me.
I'm not hearing proof against highsec strangling the game, I guess that means I'm right :smug:.
you are welcome anytime to cease buying at Jita then mine and manufacture in null. or are going to continue to contribute to the choking?
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1387
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 05:16:00 -
[74] - Quote
GetSirrus wrote:La Nariz wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. So spare your fake elitism. Not all of us get to join an organization that specifically gears it's internal rhetoric towards people with low self esteem, and most of us can see through it. So all you are doing is boring me.
I'm not hearing proof against highsec strangling the game, I guess that means I'm right :smug:. you are welcome anytime to cease buying at Jita then mine and manufacture in null. or are going to continue to contribute to the choking?
The fact that nullsec at large is forced to buy things from Jita, and manufacture in highsec, is proof positive of highsec strangling the freedom of the rest of the game. |

Laserak
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
147
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 05:52:00 -
[75] - Quote
It was a pretty cool event. I started frapsing when the live events fleet jumped into Doril. Enjoy.
http://youtu.be/XCtuZ-fDL2E?t=2m22s |

GetSirrus
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
62
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 06:33:00 -
[76] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:GetSirrus wrote:La Nariz wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. So spare your fake elitism. Not all of us get to join an organization that specifically gears it's internal rhetoric towards people with low self esteem, and most of us can see through it. So all you are doing is boring me.
I'm not hearing proof against highsec strangling the game, I guess that means I'm right :smug:. you are welcome anytime to cease buying at Jita then mine and manufacture in null. or are going to continue to contribute to the choking? The fact that nullsec at large is forced to buy things from Jita, and manufacture in highsec, is proof positive of highsec strangling the freedom of the rest of the game.
incorrect, null makes a choice to purchase in high-sec. because is it cheap and convenient. null recently received a significant boost in minerals - and its still not mined. outpost slots upgraded, still no rise in industry. industrialists are players that null shoots at, not emulates.
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destiny2
Perkone Caldari State
250
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 07:20:00 -
[77] - Quote
Nullsec vrs highsec is generally not a great idea, especially for a pew pew battle. highsec players wouldnt get into lowsec before their smartbombed to death by camping capitals.  |

KaRa DaVuT
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
5
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Posted - 2013.11.08 07:25:00 -
[78] - Quote
All of you whining but never thought that CCP never understanded the playerbase and the game Itself..
I mean what you expected by getting people to the hottest warzone in null? safe passage ?
Really the guys in the event management should Play this game more..Ot atleast check the maps and read some news damit =)
:CCP: Thank you, Goat gods were so pleased with us and you, as RAZOR sacrificed all those highsec bloods to them.
Your sacrifices will not be in vain |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1392
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 07:26:00 -
[79] - Quote
Quote:incorrect, null makes a choice to purchase in high-sec. because is it cheap and convenient.
No, not really. Now you're getting into the "if you don't like WalMart, don't shop there" argument.
WalMart/highsec drove everyone in town out of business already.
The sheer cheapness and convenience of highsec demands it's use. If, say, NCDot stopped shopping there, and decided to do their own industrial crap, they would be overrun in less than a month by people who aren't paying the MASSIVE opportunity cost associated with manufacturing in null.
Highsec just has too damn much incentive. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3576
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 09:40:00 -
[80] - Quote
KaRa DaVuT wrote:All of you whining but never thought that CCP never understanded the playerbase and the game Itself..
I mean what you expected by getting people to the hottest warzone in null? safe passage ?
Really the guys in the event management should Play this game more..Ot atleast check the maps and read some news damit =)
:CCP: Thank you, Goat gods were so pleased with us and you, as RAZOR sacrificed all those highsec bloods to them.
Your sacrifices will not be in vain
It's very possible that the outcome was intended as part of the storyline - an attempt of the empires desperately trying to destroy some dangerous new installation and failing.
And the result of that failure will be why some of the new content of Rubicon will exist.
The goal of live events are met in such a case, since everybody knows that outcome may already be determined. Hence the draw of the live event: being in the epic sci fi tale instead of just reading it.
A lot of people expected to die because their routes showed a lot of red squares. I expected to get in during a break at work, do my part, and end up in vat or pod and end my break. Instead I just plain ran out of time. A lot of participants had to go back to work, or go to work, or go to sleep. In the real world these things happen.
But 20+ jumps with heavy TiDi said otherwise. And this is what the "tears" are about. Long travel at TiDi just to go into a gate camp is somewhat lame
The whole affair could have been done better. I think there will be some in the future that will. |
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Richard Ramlrez
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2013.11.08 13:41:00 -
[81] - Quote
Khergit Deserters wrote:I think comparing high sec vs. null sec power is sort of comparing apples and oranges, in this case. The high sec guys were a crowd of uncoordinated strangers, probably fit for PVE. Wandering into an area where everybody is ready for PVP at any time, in the same alliance, and easily able to communicate and coordinate with each other. It's kind of like a hockey team wandered into an armed infantry base.
Pretty much this. It was prob the stupidest idea for an event.
Want a fun event? Teleport all online players in a certain day from null to Jita and have them being unable to warp or dock. Now send a global message to hi-seccers where they are. Concord won't assist hi-seccers unless they are shot first.
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3224
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 15:20:00 -
[82] - Quote
Sidrat Flush wrote:Has it ever really been about gudfights? E-bushido was only ever in the meta game. Actually for the amount of **** FW people get, the Amarr/Minnie fights have had a lot of e-bushido (except late night alliance, they just suck at the game unless they drop HACS on frigs).
Props to hot pocket and others for the gud fites. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
8486
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 15:50:00 -
[83] - Quote
Richard Ramlrez wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:I think comparing high sec vs. null sec power is sort of comparing apples and oranges, in this case. The high sec guys were a crowd of uncoordinated strangers, probably fit for PVE. Wandering into an area where everybody is ready for PVP at any time, in the same alliance, and easily able to communicate and coordinate with each other. It's kind of like a hockey team wandered into an armed infantry base. Pretty much this. It was prob the stupidest idea for an event. Want a fun event? Teleport all online players in a certain day from null to Jita and have them being unable to warp or dock. Now send a global message to hi-seccers where they are. Concord won't assist hi-seccers unless they are shot first.
We did this twice and high sec got stomped on then too even with concord helping them. |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
205
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:00:00 -
[84] - Quote
Anslo wrote:See this is what pisses me off about the current 'peeveepee' crowd. It used to be about gudfites. Now it's just about collecting tears and telling people to deal with it or leave? AND THEN you have the balls to ***** about people not coming to low and nul?
Give me a ******* break. What happened to the game I loved man?
Collecting tears? Test was trying to break an I-hub to flip a system yesterday.
A cyno went up an archon got dropped with a small support fleet and TEST cried about it. Saying that is the reason they lost the fight at the I-HUB.
Former Null Bear tears best tears. |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
205
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:02:00 -
[85] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Richard Ramlrez wrote:Khergit Deserters wrote:I think comparing high sec vs. null sec power is sort of comparing apples and oranges, in this case. The high sec guys were a crowd of uncoordinated strangers, probably fit for PVE. Wandering into an area where everybody is ready for PVP at any time, in the same alliance, and easily able to communicate and coordinate with each other. It's kind of like a hockey team wandered into an armed infantry base. Pretty much this. It was prob the stupidest idea for an event. Want a fun event? Teleport all online players in a certain day from null to Jita and have them being unable to warp or dock. Now send a global message to hi-seccers where they are. Concord won't assist hi-seccers unless they are shot first. We did this twice and high sec got stomped on then too even with concord helping them.
Yep this has happened. GSF created content and high sec players got exploded.
Burn Jita was its name. |

Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
205
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:03:00 -
[86] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Sidrat Flush wrote:Has it ever really been about gudfights? E-bushido was only ever in the meta game. Actually for the amount of **** FW people get, the Amarr/Minnie fights have had a lot of e-bushido (except late night alliance, they just suck at the game unless they drop HACS on frigs). Props to hot pocket and others for the gud fites.
We have try to get people to say Thanks TEST in local when they do put up a fight instead of running. |

Jafit McJafitson
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
444
|
Posted - 2013.11.08 16:08:00 -
[87] - Quote
Caviar Liberta wrote:We have try to get people to say Thanks TEST in local when they do put up a fight instead of running. http://replygif.net/i/1038.gif Nice b8 m8 2/10, got me to respond. |

dexington
Dexington Corporation
854
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:11:00 -
[88] - Quote
Jafit McJafitson wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:We have try to get people to say Thanks TEST in local when they do put up a fight instead of running. http://replygif.net/i/1038.gifNice b8 m8 2/10, got me to respond.
Thanks TEST |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
743
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:13:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:GetSirrus wrote:La Nariz wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: I once put a bubble right outside Mittangrad. So spare your fake elitism. Not all of us get to join an organization that specifically gears it's internal rhetoric towards people with low self esteem, and most of us can see through it. So all you are doing is boring me.
I'm not hearing proof against highsec strangling the game, I guess that means I'm right :smug:. you are welcome anytime to cease buying at Jita then mine and manufacture in null. or are going to continue to contribute to the choking? The fact that nullsec at large is forced to buy things from Jita, and manufacture in highsec, is proof positive of highsec strangling the freedom of the rest of the game. I know someone who supplies certain areas of NPC null with as close to Jita prices as possible while still making a profit. The fact that he's forced to only supply NPC nullsec because he would be blapped into oblivion if he tried to supply sov null is proof positive that null seccers are strangling the freedom of the rest of of the game.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
487
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:15:00 -
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It was CCP live event vs null sec player event. Null sec won. End of story. |
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1117
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:15:00 -
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dexington wrote:Jafit McJafitson wrote:Caviar Liberta wrote:We have try to get people to say Thanks TEST in local when they do put up a fight instead of running. http://replygif.net/i/1038.gifNice b8 m8 2/10, got me to respond. Thanks TEST
Damn
I think you get to moonwalk out of the thread after that one.
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Leviathan84
Empty Wallets Inc. Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:16:00 -
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Confirming all your POCO's will belong to null.
Welcome to EVE! |

Buck Badger
Enlightened Industries
10
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:27:00 -
[93] - Quote
Bagrat Skalski wrote:It was CCP live event vs null sec player event. Null sec won. End of story. It was CCP versus High Sec. :) CCP proved they are better at collecting tears than anyone else in EVE. |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
487
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:30:00 -
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Buck Badger wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:It was CCP live event vs null sec player event. Null sec won. End of story. It was CCP versus High Sec. :) CCP proved they are better at collecting tears than anyone else in EVE.
You think so? Trolls.  |

dexington
Dexington Corporation
854
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:32:00 -
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Leviathan84 wrote:Confirming all your POCO's will belong to null.
Welcome to EVE!
I think you are right, null organizations are better suited and have to manpower to take and defend the POCO's, and the cost of wardec'ing null size entities along is going to make it unprofitable for most smaller hi-sec groups.
In the end i don't really think it matters, unless someone figure out some way to use the POCO control to manipulate the market. |

Darkanon Destroyer
Tritanium Industries and Technology Ex Cinere Scriptor
1
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Posted - 2013.11.08 16:43:00 -
[96] - Quote
The event reminded me of a 3 hour version of duck hunt |

Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution Nullsec Ninjas
130
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:45:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: Reminds me of those guys who used to goose-step all over Europe.
Yes, people that shoot you in game are a certain type of fascist in real life. 
Well, a lot of them seem to display the same levels of swivel-eyed hatred. So yes in a way.
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Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution Nullsec Ninjas
130
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Posted - 2013.11.08 17:54:00 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:It was CCP live event vs null sec player event. Null sec won. End of story.
It was a gank. The high-seccers were set up.
I love this game, but I don't see how CCP humilating several thousand of it's customers is going to help grow the game.
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