This is and always has been a PVP game, you are free to do whatever you want but so is everyone else.

This is and always has been a PVP game, you are free to do whatever you want but so is everyone else.

I thought, "sounds interesting, maybe i should give it a go"

Now I'm thankful i couldn't be bothered!

Sounds like a pretty shameful performance from CCP, and i look forward to hearing something from them regarding it.
(Or, with the current trend, not hearing anything at all.)

(Or, with the current trend, not hearing anything at all.)

By all accounts it wasn't CCP that performed shamefully but v0v, what Baltec says is correct.

It was CCP's failure to cater for a significant portion of their customer base (high-sec) while providing "just another Thursday night" (quite by goons) for 0.0 players.

You are very naive if you think that most of those carebears who got slaughtered had any idea that it's going to be battle in 0.0.

You are also very naive if you think that net outcome (satisfaction minus dissatisfaction, subs gained minus subs lost) is positive.

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Let me rephrase myself - word 'cater' probably wasn't used well by me - the event ran by CCP was perceived very negatively by high-sec players, and it was just another slugfest for 0.0 guys. In total, it's negative outcome. How can you argue with that.

And no, I am not kidding that most of high-sec carebears had no clue that they are going to nullsec. Just read around. Many were surprised when they were told to jump even to low-sec. And look at the fits in killboards, average carebear would not bring PVE fit BS into 0.0.

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"I went into 0.0 where there is a major war going on and I got shot at and this is a shameful performance on CCP's part no one told me this could happen. Everyone knows that being in a fleet demands no more than being a mindless F1 monkey with no more skill or attention involved so it certainly couldn't have been me who was responsible!

Grrrr CCP!

(Also goons)"

FYI - I am not high-sec player, have been in all high-sec, low-sec and 0.0, so I understand all points of view.

Why couldn't they make Caldari Prime event copy, just split into e.g. 6 locations (2 high-sec, 2 low-sec, 2 NPC 0.0)? Would be much better than this failure.

Anyway, there is already much written about what went wrong, i.e. good analytical read by one of smarter CSM reps (no you don't qualify Malcanis, don't worry).


EDIT: I really don't care about high-sec missioners if they lost a ship. I care about EVE being successful, and for that they need playerbase. This event alienated a portion of their playerbase INSTEAD of being great opportunity to advertise the game and create content. Look at Twitch broadcasts - at the peak EVE was top 10 with some 4-5k viewers; you don't see that every day. However it dropped oh so quickly once first wave of clueless carebears were wiped out.

What went wrong is that high sec players are damn near useless at working together. It doesn't matter where this happened we would have stomped you out and the same people would be complaining.

FYI - I am not high-sec player, have been in all high-sec, low-sec and 0.0, so I understand all points of view.

Why couldn't they make Caldari Prime event copy, just split into e.g. 6 locations (2 high-sec, 2 low-sec, 2 NPC 0.0)? Would be much better than this failure.

Anyway, there is already much written about what went wrong, i.e. good analytical read by one of smarter CSM reps (no you don't qualify Malcanis, don't worry).


EDIT: I really don't care about high-sec missioners if they lost a ship. I care about EVE being successful, and for that they need playerbase. This event alienated a portion of their playerbase INSTEAD of being great opportunity to advertise the game and create content. Look at Twitch broadcasts - at the peak EVE was top 10 with some 4-5k viewers; you don't see that every day. However it dropped oh so quickly once first wave of clueless carebears were wiped out.

The attackers expected a CCP-run live event. Instead to net it out, the attacker's position is that they...

were left by the event organizers to fend for themselves;
were not given adequate instructions on what to do;
were not organized into effective fleets;
were not led by trustworthy FCs; and,
that CCP in essence led a couple of thousand EVE players into a deathtrap from which there was no escape.

What went wrong is that high sec players are damn near useless at working together. It doesn't matter where this happened we would have stomped you out and the same people would be complaining.

I do find it really funny given all the "if the highsec players stood up to nullsec, highsec would win!" sentiment being passed around the forums by some in recent months. Turns out you can't herd cats(and farmers can't fight trained soldiers) who knew?

They expected to be led by the nose the entire time and that it would all end in fanfare with pats on the back all round, and a goodie bag. At least, the people I talked to sure felt that way.

You still seem to miss the point. No one ever would complain if this was event organized by some players, e.g. Tuskers/RvB/EUNI/Burn Jita etc. However you should have very different standards if for major Live events created by CCP.

By all accounts it wasn't CCP that performed shamefully.