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Mordessa
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Posted - 2003.09.01 03:12:00 - [1]

Due to new developements from within the Venal alliance, Evolution now finds itself in need to announce a new stance for the Evolution stike force currently within Venal.

As of now all corporations who have turned against their former ally, Taggert Transdimensional Inc, we will hereby cease all hostilities with them. This means we will no longer target them, or fire on them, unless they target us first.

Also for the time being, we will also remain within Venal, so long as TTI continues to make intrusions within Venal, and assist all those corporations who chose to democratically oust them. However this does not mean we have entered an alliance with them. For the time being thier enemy just happens to be our enemy.

Furthermore, to all those individuals, corporations, and people who thought that we (Evolution) are just a bunch of blood thirsty dogs wanting to "Make a name for ourselves" we hereby offer this proof as to what Taggert Transdimensional Inc really stands for.

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> Ragnar > "Taggart does not recognize the authority of this council, nor the voting power of a corp 1/100th of our size having the same power to limit our sovereignty. It is clear that the anti TTI effort has been led by Jade Constantine, who has been bought off by Evolution. bounty on Jade Constantine with 100 million in bounties, paid for 5 mil ISK each for 20 corpses. TTI and SI and our friends will remain in Venal and we will openly attack all of the pro-Evolution people that have just voted against their one-time friends in TTI. If you wish to open relations, contact Jimmychopps now.


My my my, what an upstanding democratic coporation TTI is.
What surprises us even more is that Taggert had won the vote to be allowed to remain within Venal by a margin of 5-7, five to have them removed and seven to have them stay.

Now before most of you start to say that we did indeed buy off Jade Constantine, I will say here and now, that no money has passed, nor have we made any "Deal" with her or her corporation. From what we have been able to compile, all that has happened is that some (obviously 5) corporations within Venal finally tired of being TTI's cannon fodder.

We applaud those 5 corporations who initially voted to oust TTI and pity those who voted to stay the course with them only to have the TTI blade stike thier back.

Know this, we Evolution will continue in its assualt against the Corporations Taggert Transdimensional, Space Invaders and the Paladins of the Red Skull.
Furthermore we have reliable information that along with these pirate corporations, TTI possibly allied themselves along with M3G4 as well.

To Evolution whether this is true or not, we have always attacked M3G4 in the past, and will continue to do so in the future as well.





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Posted - 2003.09.01 03:12:00 - [2]

Due to new developements from within the Venal alliance, Evolution now finds itself in need to announce a new stance for the Evolution stike force currently within Venal.

As of now all corporations who have turned against their former ally, Taggert Transdimensional Inc, we will hereby cease all hostilities with them. This means we will no longer target them, or fire on them, unless they target us first.

Also for the time being, we will also remain within Venal, so long as TTI continues to make intrusions within Venal, and assist all those corporations who chose to democratically oust them. However this does not mean we have entered an alliance with them. For the time being thier enemy just happens to be our enemy.

Furthermore, to all those individuals, corporations, and people who thought that we (Evolution) are just a bunch of blood thirsty dogs wanting to "Make a name for ourselves" we hereby offer this proof as to what Taggert Transdimensional Inc really stands for.

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> Ragnar > "Taggart does not recognize the authority of this council, nor the voting power of a corp 1/100th of our size having the same power to limit our sovereignty. It is clear that the anti TTI effort has been led by Jade Constantine, who has been bought off by Evolution. bounty on Jade Constantine with 100 million in bounties, paid for 5 mil ISK each for 20 corpses. TTI and SI and our friends will remain in Venal and we will openly attack all of the pro-Evolution people that have just voted against their one-time friends in TTI. If you wish to open relations, contact Jimmychopps now.


My my my, what an upstanding democratic coporation TTI is.
What surprises us even more is that Taggert had won the vote to be allowed to remain within Venal by a margin of 5-7, five to have them removed and seven to have them stay.

Now before most of you start to say that we did indeed buy off Jade Constantine, I will say here and now, that no money has passed, nor have we made any "Deal" with her or her corporation. From what we have been able to compile, all that has happened is that some (obviously 5) corporations within Venal finally tired of being TTI's cannon fodder.

We applaud those 5 corporations who initially voted to oust TTI and pity those who voted to stay the course with them only to have the TTI blade stike thier back.

Know this, we Evolution will continue in its assualt against the Corporations Taggert Transdimensional, Space Invaders and the Paladins of the Red Skull.
Furthermore we have reliable information that along with these pirate corporations, TTI possibly allied themselves along with M3G4 as well.

To Evolution whether this is true or not, we have always attacked M3G4 in the past, and will continue to do so in the future as well.





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Posted - 2003.09.01 03:26:00 - [3]

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Posted - 2003.09.01 03:26:00 - [4]

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Posted - 2003.09.01 03:38:00 - [5]

"Furthermore we have reliable information that along with these pirate corporations, TTI possibly allied themselves along with M3G4 as well. "

Well this is certainly interesting. If its true I would say TTI is guilty. Would you mind sharing this evidence so we can form our own conclusions. Personally I feel this "bounty" on Jade is uncalled for and a shame. Especially given the vote was in their favor. But I do see they probably didn't trust their old allies after they voted to oust them so I have to take that into consideration as well.

I hope someone from some corporation posts some evidence here I've yet to see anything damning about anybody that caused this war to happen in the first place.




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Posted - 2003.09.01 03:38:00 - [6]

"Furthermore we have reliable information that along with these pirate corporations, TTI possibly allied themselves along with M3G4 as well. "

Well this is certainly interesting. If its true I would say TTI is guilty. Would you mind sharing this evidence so we can form our own conclusions. Personally I feel this "bounty" on Jade is uncalled for and a shame. Especially given the vote was in their favor. But I do see they probably didn't trust their old allies after they voted to oust them so I have to take that into consideration as well.

I hope someone from some corporation posts some evidence here I've yet to see anything damning about anybody that caused this war to happen in the first place.




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Posted - 2003.09.01 04:20:00 - [7]

Edited by: QBall on 01/09/2003 04:23:25
I was previously the so called "Monarch" of the Venal Alliance, I ultimitally approved/denied all memberships. If you wanted to join you contacted me.

When war broke out it became impossible for me to maintain control over the alliance. So a councel was formed.

What you are seeing was the heated end to the second meeting of the Venal Council made up from rep's of every corp.

In our first session TTI was all but well involved in the Council, and had agreed to look into the possiblity of them leaving the alliance then coming back at a later time.

Then today and the beggining of the "Venal Civil War"...

Meeting took place ~20:00 EVE time, I was approched ~19:30 by Roark and Ragnar. As the previous sole leader of the alliance I had much clout with the other member, and TTI was planning to use this as a tool.

The gave an indirect thread of what they intended on doing...

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Channelname: Ragnar conversation
Listener: QBall
Session started: 2003.08.31 19:06:32

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[ 2003.08.31 19:07:17 ] Ragnar > Howdy
[ 2003.08.31 19:07:23 ] QBall > hello
[ 2003.08.31 19:07:23 ] Ragnar > I am trying to get Roark in here
[ 2003.08.31 19:07:36 ] QBall > i invited him
[ 2003.08.31 19:07:45 ] Roark > Okay hey he is here good
[ 2003.08.31 19:07:53 ] Roark > I will let Ragnar talk
[ 2003.08.31 19:08:22 ] Ragnar > Okay where are you guys coming down on this vote today?
[ 2003.08.31 19:09:00 ] QBall > Cyberdyne?
[ 2003.08.31 19:09:44 ] Ragnar > Right
[ 2003.08.31 19:09:52 ] QBall > wretch is handling the vote
[ 2003.08.31 19:10:10 ] QBall > as he is CEO, and I'm pretty sure he's voting to split
[ 2003.08.31 19:10:26 ] QBall > I went bar hopping last night didnt get to talk to him much
[ 2003.08.31 19:10:30 ] Ragnar > He is voting to kick out TTI and SI right?
[ 2003.08.31 19:10:49 ] QBall > I think so
[ 2003.08.31 19:10:53 ] QBall > have to ask him though
[ 2003.08.31 19:11:03 ] Ragnar > Okay just wanted to be sure. There is a rift coming and there is one side that is safe and one that is not.
[ 2003.08.31 19:11:08 ] Roark > Yes that is right.
[ 2003.08.31 19:11:34 ] QBall > hm...
[ 2003.08.31 19:11:45 ] QBall > TTI gonna go loco on the VA if they get kicked?
[ 2003.08.31 19:12:50 ] Ragnar > I just wanted to see where you stood on the matter... thanks.


...After cutting me off they both left the channel soon after.

Wretch (CEO of Cyberdyne) and myself both well respect members of the Venal Alliance, took that as a direct threat upon our corperation. In the past Cyberdyne and TTI have never really seen eye to eye on matters.

I personally was usually the first to warp into battle followed by wretch and everyone else, and last out. All this while TTI would camp gate, or sit in station, (exception would be Mark A and Tehel Necrona - both of whom I still respect for their merrits in battle).

The ultimate problem is TTI wanted to be considered a SMALL corp when it came to defending only putting 4-5 battleships AT most into the battle (In comparison Cyberdyne has 8 members and commonly had 4 battleship in the front). But then when it came to other matters they wanted to be considered a LARGE corp

"Ragnar > Taggart does not recognize the authority of this council, nor the voting power of a corp 1/100th of our size having the same power to limit our sovereignty..."

Due to this arrogance of we are bigger than you, we do as we wish attitude, compounded with the 100million dollar bounty on Jade head, war was forged.

This is bring's us to now. TTI has tried to muscle the alliance to do as they wish. Though current member of the alliance know that TTI can in no way actually strike at alliance member because their fleet consists of Miners with **** poor gunnery skills. Medium weapons on a Bship anyone?

TTI is a financial monster with a fleet a fluffy bunnies. That attempts to force people around with money, and empty threats.

This is also why they have been asking all day for Cyberdyne to region their side of the conflict, with hope's that other's would follow us back in.

What this does come down to though is that Cyberdyne as well as other previous VA members are now temporarily aligned with Evolution and Xanadu on this campaign against those that do intrude upon a democratic system.

Cyberdyne WILL NOT BE THREATENED without repercussions. Ragnar your arrogance burned to many bridges this time. For all the other in TTI I sincerely recommend you implore some new leadership, you are being lead by a madman.

Lastly what evolution has been saying is true, TTI has offered isk for attacks upon the Fountain Alliance.

-QBall
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Posted - 2003.09.01 04:20:00 - [8]

Edited by: QBall on 01/09/2003 04:23:25
I was previously the so called "Monarch" of the Venal Alliance, I ultimitally approved/denied all memberships. If you wanted to join you contacted me.

When war broke out it became impossible for me to maintain control over the alliance. So a councel was formed.

What you are seeing was the heated end to the second meeting of the Venal Council made up from rep's of every corp.

In our first session TTI was all but well involved in the Council, and had agreed to look into the possiblity of them leaving the alliance then coming back at a later time.

Then today and the beggining of the "Venal Civil War"...

Meeting took place ~20:00 EVE time, I was approched ~19:30 by Roark and Ragnar. As the previous sole leader of the alliance I had much clout with the other member, and TTI was planning to use this as a tool.

The gave an indirect thread of what they intended on doing...

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Channelname: Ragnar conversation
Listener: QBall
Session started: 2003.08.31 19:06:32

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[ 2003.08.31 19:07:17 ] Ragnar > Howdy
[ 2003.08.31 19:07:23 ] QBall > hello
[ 2003.08.31 19:07:23 ] Ragnar > I am trying to get Roark in here
[ 2003.08.31 19:07:36 ] QBall > i invited him
[ 2003.08.31 19:07:45 ] Roark > Okay hey he is here good
[ 2003.08.31 19:07:53 ] Roark > I will let Ragnar talk
[ 2003.08.31 19:08:22 ] Ragnar > Okay where are you guys coming down on this vote today?
[ 2003.08.31 19:09:00 ] QBall > Cyberdyne?
[ 2003.08.31 19:09:44 ] Ragnar > Right
[ 2003.08.31 19:09:52 ] QBall > wretch is handling the vote
[ 2003.08.31 19:10:10 ] QBall > as he is CEO, and I'm pretty sure he's voting to split
[ 2003.08.31 19:10:26 ] QBall > I went bar hopping last night didnt get to talk to him much
[ 2003.08.31 19:10:30 ] Ragnar > He is voting to kick out TTI and SI right?
[ 2003.08.31 19:10:49 ] QBall > I think so
[ 2003.08.31 19:10:53 ] QBall > have to ask him though
[ 2003.08.31 19:11:03 ] Ragnar > Okay just wanted to be sure. There is a rift coming and there is one side that is safe and one that is not.
[ 2003.08.31 19:11:08 ] Roark > Yes that is right.
[ 2003.08.31 19:11:34 ] QBall > hm...
[ 2003.08.31 19:11:45 ] QBall > TTI gonna go loco on the VA if they get kicked?
[ 2003.08.31 19:12:50 ] Ragnar > I just wanted to see where you stood on the matter... thanks.


...After cutting me off they both left the channel soon after.

Wretch (CEO of Cyberdyne) and myself both well respect members of the Venal Alliance, took that as a direct threat upon our corperation. In the past Cyberdyne and TTI have never really seen eye to eye on matters.

I personally was usually the first to warp into battle followed by wretch and everyone else, and last out. All this while TTI would camp gate, or sit in station, (exception would be Mark A and Tehel Necrona - both of whom I still respect for their merrits in battle).

The ultimate problem is TTI wanted to be considered a SMALL corp when it came to defending only putting 4-5 battleships AT most into the battle (In comparison Cyberdyne has 8 members and commonly had 4 battleship in the front). But then when it came to other matters they wanted to be considered a LARGE corp

"Ragnar > Taggart does not recognize the authority of this council, nor the voting power of a corp 1/100th of our size having the same power to limit our sovereignty..."

Due to this arrogance of we are bigger than you, we do as we wish attitude, compounded with the 100million dollar bounty on Jade head, war was forged.

This is bring's us to now. TTI has tried to muscle the alliance to do as they wish. Though current member of the alliance know that TTI can in no way actually strike at alliance member because their fleet consists of Miners with **** poor gunnery skills. Medium weapons on a Bship anyone?

TTI is a financial monster with a fleet a fluffy bunnies. That attempts to force people around with money, and empty threats.

This is also why they have been asking all day for Cyberdyne to region their side of the conflict, with hope's that other's would follow us back in.

What this does come down to though is that Cyberdyne as well as other previous VA members are now temporarily aligned with Evolution and Xanadu on this campaign against those that do intrude upon a democratic system.

Cyberdyne WILL NOT BE THREATENED without repercussions. Ragnar your arrogance burned to many bridges this time. For all the other in TTI I sincerely recommend you implore some new leadership, you are being lead by a madman.

Lastly what evolution has been saying is true, TTI has offered isk for attacks upon the Fountain Alliance.

-QBall
Previous Leader of the Venal Region


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Posted - 2003.09.01 06:28:00 - [9]

Lol the whole thing is very simple. Evolution still wants Venal. TTI is just a convient face to put on the conquest. Just as they chose the "safety" of the fountain to take it over with, they choose to fight the "Great Evil" of TTI as a way of expanding their control. I am no fan of TTI at all. But if Evolution takes that area over under another false pretense the entire community needs to stand together and just plain old fashioned kill them when they pick the next region to take over. Neither side is a saint, but Evolution is going to try to eat everything dumb every dumb enough to buy their dipolmatic stalling while they consolidate a position.

Fooled once shame on you, fooled twice shame on me.
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Posted - 2003.09.01 06:28:00 - [10]

Lol the whole thing is very simple. Evolution still wants Venal. TTI is just a convient face to put on the conquest. Just as they chose the "safety" of the fountain to take it over with, they choose to fight the "Great Evil" of TTI as a way of expanding their control. I am no fan of TTI at all. But if Evolution takes that area over under another false pretense the entire community needs to stand together and just plain old fashioned kill them when they pick the next region to take over. Neither side is a saint, but Evolution is going to try to eat everything dumb every dumb enough to buy their dipolmatic stalling while they consolidate a position.

Fooled once shame on you, fooled twice shame on me.
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Posted - 2003.09.01 06:34:00 - [11]

Right about doesn't matter if they end up screwing us in the end as long as TTI goes down hard.

Btw 10 megacorp showed up, right where TTI was being blockaded, yah thats not planned out or anything hahahaha.
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Posted - 2003.09.01 06:34:00 - [12]

Right about doesn't matter if they end up screwing us in the end as long as TTI goes down hard.

Btw 10 megacorp showed up, right where TTI was being blockaded, yah thats not planned out or anything hahahaha.
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Posted - 2003.09.01 07:52:00 - [13]

ends, evolution doesn't care about venal.
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Posted - 2003.09.01 07:52:00 - [14]

ends, evolution doesn't care about venal.
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Posted - 2003.09.01 08:46:00 - [15]

Edited by: Rebellion on 01/09/2003 08:47:33
Evolution has no designs on Venal as we have ample sources to get the commodities that we need. We are not a big group and every one of us manages to live frugally. If we have opportunities to profit from Venal while we are there we will, this is why some of us were mining bistot while waiting for TTI ships or allies to come out. We are not motivated by greed.

This war is one of vengeance. TTI secretly placed bounties on my brethren, they will pay in blood.

The turn of events did come as a surprise to me. I had assumed that Venal's corporations that were allied with TTI knew what sort of value TTI placed on matters. If they had accepted TTI into an alliance knowing it for what it is then I would expect them to position themselves between us and our target indefinitely. Because a war alliance with TTI means that you do the fighting while they reap the profits. We have had first hand experience with this in the past while in an earlier stage of our evolution.

We had indeed been preparing to escalate our hostilities against TTI and Venal so it is most fortuitous that TTI has shown its colors. We would not have to deal with Venal corporations and they will not have to fight us. This leaves us able to focus on our target alone. Complex situations are taxing, we like things simple.

The number of people who fought us is a tragedy in my eyes as it did not need to happen. Rest assured that we will no longer attack you for as long as you no longer stand between us and our target. If Venal stages a full scale war on TTI I can undertand the motivations. We hold no grudges against Venal for the losses that we have incurred as I believe that to do so would be bad form given they are also victims of this war.

Apparently if one calls to mind the logs long ago of TTI's attitude towards their Venal allies when we appeared in Venal, TTI had intended to come out on the top of this situation. As we inflicted losses on their Venal allies they would minimize their own losses and when the time comes for a reckoning they would be able to strongarm the depleted corporations of Venal into knowing acception of subservience. It appears they have overplayed their hand.

I have mostly been silent as people have attempted to sling mud upon our reasons for going to war. I have also maintained silence as others attempted to erode our Fountain Alliance partners' confidence in us by interrupting their business. This is because both efforts would not have mattered in the conflict.

We war with TTI for our own reasons, those who choose to fight with us do so of their own volition and we are appreciative. We do not demand our allies to protect us while we pursue our own goals that offer little benefit to them. We would fight even if we are alone, even if we lose all our battleships, even if we have to fight in frigates. We can lose everything and still fight with the same fervor because both our weapon and our shield is our faith in our brethren.

Venal can rest assured of the cessation of hostilities from our part, but we are still going after TTI.
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Posted - 2003.09.01 08:46:00 - [16]

Edited by: Rebellion on 01/09/2003 08:47:33
Evolution has no designs on Venal as we have ample sources to get the commodities that we need. We are not a big group and every one of us manages to live frugally. If we have opportunities to profit from Venal while we are there we will, this is why some of us were mining bistot while waiting for TTI ships or allies to come out. We are not motivated by greed.

This war is one of vengeance. TTI secretly placed bounties on my brethren, they will pay in blood.

The turn of events did come as a surprise to me. I had assumed that Venal's corporations that were allied with TTI knew what sort of value TTI placed on matters. If they had accepted TTI into an alliance knowing it for what it is then I would expect them to position themselves between us and our target indefinitely. Because a war alliance with TTI means that you do the fighting while they reap the profits. We have had first hand experience with this in the past while in an earlier stage of our evolution.

We had indeed been preparing to escalate our hostilities against TTI and Venal so it is most fortuitous that TTI has shown its colors. We would not have to deal with Venal corporations and they will not have to fight us. This leaves us able to focus on our target alone. Complex situations are taxing, we like things simple.

The number of people who fought us is a tragedy in my eyes as it did not need to happen. Rest assured that we will no longer attack you for as long as you no longer stand between us and our target. If Venal stages a full scale war on TTI I can undertand the motivations. We hold no grudges against Venal for the losses that we have incurred as I believe that to do so would be bad form given they are also victims of this war.

Apparently if one calls to mind the logs long ago of TTI's attitude towards their Venal allies when we appeared in Venal, TTI had intended to come out on the top of this situation. As we inflicted losses on their Venal allies they would minimize their own losses and when the time comes for a reckoning they would be able to strongarm the depleted corporations of Venal into knowing acception of subservience. It appears they have overplayed their hand.

I have mostly been silent as people have attempted to sling mud upon our reasons for going to war. I have also maintained silence as others attempted to erode our Fountain Alliance partners' confidence in us by interrupting their business. This is because both efforts would not have mattered in the conflict.

We war with TTI for our own reasons, those who choose to fight with us do so of their own volition and we are appreciative. We do not demand our allies to protect us while we pursue our own goals that offer little benefit to them. We would fight even if we are alone, even if we lose all our battleships, even if we have to fight in frigates. We can lose everything and still fight with the same fervor because both our weapon and our shield is our faith in our brethren.

Venal can rest assured of the cessation of hostilities from our part, but we are still going after TTI.
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Posted - 2003.09.01 16:27:00 - [17]

O.o im confused. I took a day off from my duties as a ninja and everything explodes. Who do i kill auggghhhhh it hurts.......blackness....closing in...
But im a nice guy.....
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Posted - 2003.09.01 16:27:00 - [18]

O.o im confused. I took a day off from my duties as a ninja and everything explodes. Who do i kill auggghhhhh it hurts.......blackness....closing in...
But im a nice guy.....
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Posted - 2003.09.01 18:06:00 - [19]

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Tell me about it Wolf, were down here facing 15 bs's nightly and them lot buckle under the pressure of a small invasion force. Makes me sick i tell ya :p

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Tell me about it Wolf, were down here facing 15 bs's nightly and them lot buckle under the pressure of a small invasion force. Makes me sick i tell ya :p

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Posted - 2003.09.01 18:56:00 - [21]

I'm still not sure what happened. And frankly, I couldn't care less about TTI's decision to split with VA.

What I don't understand is, is how Space Invaders got involved in this. I've heard several rumors, of which one being that Space Invaders was given the choice by the VA council, to either quit pirating or leave the alliance. This was also supposedly part of a deal with the invading force (EVO/XAN).

Now I know there's some other rumors that contradict the above. So by all means, explain to me what really happened, someone has to know, right?
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Posted - 2003.09.01 18:56:00 - [22]

I'm still not sure what happened. And frankly, I couldn't care less about TTI's decision to split with VA.

What I don't understand is, is how Space Invaders got involved in this. I've heard several rumors, of which one being that Space Invaders was given the choice by the VA council, to either quit pirating or leave the alliance. This was also supposedly part of a deal with the invading force (EVO/XAN).

Now I know there's some other rumors that contradict the above. So by all means, explain to me what really happened, someone has to know, right?
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Posted - 2003.09.01 19:44:00 - [23]

Monsieur Yatar, Monsieur Wolf of the Space Invaders. Taggart are currently working overtime on spreading disinformation about what actually happened. I will be happy to speak with you directly and give you the truth.

Jade




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Posted - 2003.09.01 19:44:00 - [24]

Monsieur Yatar, Monsieur Wolf of the Space Invaders. Taggart are currently working overtime on spreading disinformation about what actually happened. I will be happy to speak with you directly and give you the truth.

Jade




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Morkt Drakt
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Posted - 2003.09.01 19:55:00 - [25]

Yatar

Or... I can sell you complete transcripts of the last two VA Council meetings for 10 mil ISK each.


Highway robbery some might claim, but i found them worth every isk.Wink


(The bit where yuo can hear the poor guys from KIA literally gagging in shock at Ragnar's statement is... well... something that ya just cant act out or describe in words... "gutted" is the only phrase that comes to mind)
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Posted - 2003.09.01 19:55:00 - [26]

Yatar

Or... I can sell you complete transcripts of the last two VA Council meetings for 10 mil ISK each.


Highway robbery some might claim, but i found them worth every isk.Wink


(The bit where yuo can hear the poor guys from KIA literally gagging in shock at Ragnar's statement is... well... something that ya just cant act out or describe in words... "gutted" is the only phrase that comes to mind)
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Posted - 2003.09.01 20:02:00 - [27]

Quote:
Monsieur Yatar, Monsieur Wolf of the Space Invaders. Taggart are currently working overtime on spreading disinformation about what actually happened. I will be happy to speak with you directly and give you the truth.

Jade




Oh indeed i'm sure you will. Part of the offer asked that The Piratcal corps within Venal stopped performing such activities. This is like asking miners to not mine or be slaughtered.

-Necro
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Posted - 2003.09.01 20:02:00 - [28]

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Monsieur Yatar, Monsieur Wolf of the Space Invaders. Taggart are currently working overtime on spreading disinformation about what actually happened. I will be happy to speak with you directly and give you the truth.

Jade




Oh indeed i'm sure you will. Part of the offer asked that The Piratcal corps within Venal stopped performing such activities. This is like asking miners to not mine or be slaughtered.

-Necro
Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2003.09.01 21:11:00 - [29]

Do you doubt I will tell them the truth?

Love and peace (and Ragnar's head on a spike)



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Posted - 2003.09.01 21:11:00 - [30]

Do you doubt I will tell them the truth?

Love and peace (and Ragnar's head on a spike)



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