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Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.02.16 19:01:00 - [271] See what is it going to be like when they have 70 sniping BS sitting at a gate a few months down the line? President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2006.02.16 19:17:00 - [272] Edited by: Recluse XXX on 16/02/2006 19:17:50 Originally by: Defcon2 Interesting idea, even one guy in s-u could theoretially slow down mining in the system by attacking people in belts and not getting himself killed But this is all theory of course This is infact very much doable. Since the Goons cant think for themselves (they are beeees afterall) they must rely on a queen (KIATolon?) to do the thinking. So, If the queen decides that camping a gate whit 80 ships is a good idea the helpless little drones (Goonfleet) also think that it is a good idea. However, somtimes a lone drone gets away from the swarm and decides that the queen is a ***** and for a few minutes gets a hold of his mind. We found one of these free thinking individuals in a belt in S-U when the rest of the swarm was playing hug the gate and run from the snipers game... The lonley brave Goon was npcing in his mighty Caracal and was doing a fine job bullying the npc population when a couple of NSN pilots thought that the "pirates" could use some help. So, they jump in to the belt expecting a grim fight from the mighty Goon. The Goon however used a strange tactic...as soon as the rescuers (NSN) enterd the belt he ejected from his ship and ran back to the hive....I guess the queen finally missed him :( //Rec --------------- Edited by: sausage jockey on 01/02/2006 22:02:39 We will not give up until we have penetrated the rear entrance to Stain, we hope this will hurt SA to the point they start to cry.
Lord Gunstar	Posted - 2006.02.16 19:26:00 - [273] dont complain about the goonfleet tactics now. everyoen knows what they are about, that swarn of tech1 frigs and cruisers. You knew it before you took the contract. So its silly to start fighting them, and want them to switch their tactics.
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2006.02.16 19:33:00 - [274] Originally by: Lord Gunstar dont complain about the goonfleet tactics now. everyoen knows what they are about, that swarn of tech1 frigs and cruisers. You knew it before you took the contract. So its silly to start fighting them, and want them to switch their tactics. Dont you have a tutorial to finish? //Rec -------------- Edited by: sausage jockey on 01/02/2006 22:02:39 We will not give up until we have penetrated the rear entrance to Stain, we hope this will hurt SA to the point they start to cry.
Calenth	Posted - 2006.02.16 19:46:00 - [275] Originally by: Hans Roaming See what is it going to be like when they have 70 sniping BS sitting at a gate a few months down the line? Heh, by that time, all the people we fight will have 70-dreadnaught fleets!
Sesfan Qu'lah	Posted - 2006.02.16 20:03:00 - [276] Recluse there's no need to be insulting, this thread was nicely on the way to recovery. If you don't like Goonfleet come and attack us again in the game, not on the forums.
Petite Pierre	Posted - 2006.02.16 20:13:00 - [277] Originally by: Sesfan Qu'lah Recluse there's no need to be insulting, this thread was nicely on the way to recovery. If you don't like Goonfleet come and attack us again in the game, not on the forums. Oh, sweet irony. -------------------- "With Bart, we laugh to keep the bile down. With Bugs, we just laughed."
Padijun Siger	Posted - 2006.02.16 21:30:00 - [278] Originally by: Recluse XXX Since the Goons cant think for themselves (they are beeees afterall) they must rely on a queen (KIATolon?) to do the thinking. So, If the queen decides that camping a gate whit 80 ships is a good idea the helpless little drones (Goonfleet) also think that it is a good idea. Can you please elaborate on why showing a little patience and camping the only exit with our full strength is a bad idea? Leading (for the most part) a bunch of 1 week to 2 month old newbies is like herding cats, but remarkably, the only goons who got killed during that op were unlucky enough to be called primary or just stupid enough to be AFK when we got the order to warp out. I'll take patience rewarded with two good kills over impatience rewarded with us getting podded, thanks.
Dracolich	Posted - 2006.02.17 03:09:00 - [279] Originally by: Padijun Siger Can you please elaborate on why showing a little patience and camping the only exit with our full strength is a bad idea? Leading (for the most part) a bunch of 1 week to 2 month old newbies is like herding cats, but remarkably, the only goons who got killed during that op were unlucky enough to be called primary or just stupid enough to be AFK when we got the order to warp out. I'll take patience rewarded with two good kills over impatience rewarded with us getting podded, thanks. Coz eventually your 80+ man gang will be bored to death with this. What I don't understand is that you fly t1 ships, and yet you are so afraid to loose them that you have to outgank ppl 8:1, or more. Just some advice down the line. Change your tactics or you will loose members rapidly once they grew bored of being a 1 system bee hive.... Then again, to each his own... Cu in space. _______________________________________
Shadako	Posted - 2006.02.17 03:29:00 - [280] Edited by: Shadako on 17/02/2006 03:29:51 Originally by: Dracolich Originally by: Padijun Siger Can you please elaborate on why showing a little patience and camping the only exit with our full strength is a bad idea? Leading (for the most part) a bunch of 1 week to 2 month old newbies is like herding cats, but remarkably, the only goons who got killed during that op were unlucky enough to be called primary or just stupid enough to be AFK when we got the order to warp out. I'll take patience rewarded with two good kills over impatience rewarded with us getting podded, thanks. Coz eventually your 80+ man gang will be bored to death with this. What I don't understand is that you fly t1 ships, and yet you are so afraid to loose them that you have to outgank ppl 8:1, or more. Just some advice down the line. Change your tactics or you will loose members rapidly once they grew bored of being a 1 system bee hive.... Then again, to each his own... Cu in space. You guys make me laugh - you guys gank singles in empire 8 to 1 but cry when goonfleet turns the tables on you. Just like you guys hid in the station the other day when you came to Syndicate, Yet Recluse was smack talking smack about people hiding in stations in SU last night instead of facing bad odds.
Recluse XXX	Posted - 2006.02.17 03:56:00 - [281] Originally by: Shadako Recluse was smack talking smack Who is Smack...and does he have a sister? //Rec ------------- Edited by: sausage jockey on 01/02/2006 22:02:39 We will not give up until we have penetrated the rear entrance to Stain, we hope this will hurt SA to the point they start to cry.
Padijun Siger	Posted - 2006.02.17 04:01:00 - [282] Originally by: Dracolich Coz eventually your 80+ man gang will be bored to death with this. And you don't get bored of hiding out in a safespot until your covops gives you a good warp in point, only to gank 1, maybe 2 stragglers? I don't see much of a difference between the two of us from that standpoint. Originally by: Dracolich What I don't understand is that you fly t1 ships, and yet you are so afraid to loose them that you have to outgank ppl 8:1, or more. We fly a lot of T1 ships but that doesn't mean we have to throw them away by getting sniped from 180km. If we couldn't get a good warp in on you we bailed instead of hanging around to get shot. As for 8:1 odds, the gang was about 80-70 against 15, so it's more like 5:1 odds. But that's completely irrelevant because our corp members are defending our home system, which you have to be prepared for if you declare war and invade someone. Originally by: Dracolich Just some advice down the line. Change your tactics or you will loose members rapidly once they grew bored of being a 1 system bee hive.... Then again, to each his own... Cu in space. It's been this way for the past 3 months and people aren't exactly leaving in droves. Not to mention they actually like hanging out in a system where you can mine top end ore, rat, do missions, and PvP isn't too hard to come by. Our members are free to go anywhere they want at any time (providing we respect our NAP/allies wishes) but we have everything we need at home.
Dracolich	Posted - 2006.02.17 06:02:00 - [283] Originally by: Shadako You guys make me laugh - you guys gank singles in empire 8 to 1 but cry when goonfleet turns the tables on you. Just like you guys hid in the station the other day when you came to Syndicate, Yet Recluse was smack talking smack about people hiding in stations in SU last night instead of facing bad odds. Show me one kill mail with 8 vs 1 in our favor? I have tried to engage 1 vs 2, 1 vs 6 and 1 vs 8 this night, to no avail, coz they just sit in their station hugging it. _______________________________________
Dracolich	Posted - 2006.02.17 06:10:00 - [284] Originally by: Padijun Siger And you don't get bored of hiding out in a safespot until your covops gives you a good warp in point, only to gank 1, maybe 2 stragglers? I don't see much of a difference between the two of us from that standpoint. We try to adapt to you not vice versa. And I wasnt trying to smack you, just give you some clue about what might happen to your corp in the future. Originally by: Padijun Siger We fly a lot of T1 ships but that doesn't mean we have to throw them away by getting sniped from 180km. If we couldn't get a good warp in on you we bailed instead of hanging around to get shot. As for 8:1 odds, the gang was about 80-70 against 15, so it's more like 5:1 odds. But that's completely irrelevant because our corp members are defending our home system, which you have to be prepared for if you declare war and invade someone. Sure.. I just thought u like to have fun, and t1 frigs is really nothing to write home about loosing, just some free advice. Originally by: Padijun Siger It's been this way for the past 3 months and people aren't exactly leaving in droves. Not to mention they actually like hanging out in a system where you can mine top end ore, rat, do missions, and PvP isn't too hard to come by. Our members are free to go anywhere they want at any time (providing we respect our NAP/allies wishes) but we have everything we need at home. Except fun even fights. 3 months isnt long. But Cheers... Cu in space(or whatever). _______________________________________
Dungar Loghoth	Posted - 2006.02.17 06:36:00 - [285] Originally by: Dracolich Except fun even fights. 3 months isnt long. But Cheers... Cu in space(or whatever). I'll say that regardless of how I feel about 206/CONIN/CI (I do respect some of them a great deal), they did give us many fair fights, and we learned a ton from fight them. It was very common for them to have several more battleships than we did, but we outnumbered them by thirty people (we were much smaller then).
Shadako	Posted - 2006.02.17 06:36:00 - [286] Edited by: Shadako on 17/02/2006 06:37:49 Edited by: Shadako on 17/02/2006 06:36:44 Originally by: Dracolich Originally by: Shadako You guys make me laugh - you guys gank singles in empire 8 to 1 but cry when goonfleet turns the tables on you. Just like you guys hid in the station the other day when you came to Syndicate, Yet Recluse was smack talking smack about people hiding in stations in SU last night instead of facing bad odds. Show me one kill mail with 8 vs 1 in our favor? I have tried to engage 1 vs 2, 1 vs 6 and 1 vs 8 this night, to no avail, coz they just sit in their station hugging it. I don't really care what you have personnally done. Not that I trust you or really care much about your corp, or even consider your corp's own kill mails to be reliable - but here ya go - a 6 to 1. http://bdci.killboard.net/?p=details&id=12965 So hypocrite more bish.
Dracolich	Posted - 2006.02.17 07:01:00 - [287] Edited by: Dracolich on 17/02/2006 07:03:39 Originally by: Shadako Not that I trust you or really care much about your corp, or even consider your corp's own kill mails to be reliable Well I believe there is a 5 mil isk to the person who finds a missing kill/loss mail after 48 hours of the incident occured. I did however spam the kill mail today, so it seems that I killed Velette 3 times instead of once, but I hope it will be fixed. Originally by: Shadako - but here ya go - a 6 to 1 http://bdci.killboard.net/?p=details&id=12965 Well, 6 to 1 isnt 8 to 1, but whatever, not gonna explain this to you. _______________________________________
Leafo	Posted - 2006.02.17 07:33:00 - [288] I am sure the MC has killed people with 15-1 (and more), nothing strange really. Though it is nothing we strive to make happen, but it happens. A kill is a kill even though I on a personal level would prefer "fair fights". Fair fights are very very rare nowadays. But they occur from time to time and makes this game even better. This discussion is totally pointless. GoonFleet does what they think is best to handle the situation from their perspective. NSN does what we think is best to achieve our clients goals. This thread was good as long as we simply stated facts about the situation, now it has gone from that to throwing pie at eachother. Totally pointless and I won't have it from either side. People need to change attitude or stfu. If not, the mods can aswell lock this thread. //Leafo click on sig for all MC videos
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.02.17 07:46:00 - [289] Dracolich, you are coming to the forums and complaining about goonfleet using the main advantage that they have (numbers). Seems a tad silly to me. Just like you say to others, that you arent there to give good fights, you are their to fulfill a contract. Well they are defending home turf.
Trooper B99	Posted - 2006.02.17 08:00:00 - [290] I would ask one thing of each corp. NSN, please don't get into the numbers thing, goons will bring everything they have available to an engagement in s-u. Outside s-u it might be a bit less. This was previously dicussed. Goonfleet, please don't complain that you aren't getting the great close in fights that you want. Too many involved in a fight can lead to use of tactics like that. Its a dichotomy really. While as mercs, we're there to kill you for someone else, not to give you kills/ganks to enjoy, we really do like good stand up fights and if given the chance will jump at them jut as any PvPer would. There's something to be said for a quick easy kill, but its another thing to go head to head. Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Mulletstation	Posted - 2006.02.17 08:32:00 - [291] Edited by: Mulletstation on 17/02/2006 08:34:05 Please stop being angry at each other :( B.t.w I have 900k sp so you guys should listen to my experience! :p :p :p :p Now that youÆve gone All thatÆs left is a band of gold All thatÆs left of the dreams I hold Is a band of gold And the memories Of what love could be If you were Still here with me You took me from the shelter of a mother I had never known The love of any other We kissed after taking vows But that night on our honeymoon We stayed in separate rooms I waited in the darkness of my lonely room Filled with sadness, filled with gloom Hoping soon That youÆd walk back through that door And love me Liked you tried before Since youÆve been gone All thatÆs left is a band of gold All thatÆs left of the dreams I hold Is a band of gold And the dream of what love could be If you were still here with me Since youÆve been gone All thatÆs left is a band of gold All thatÆs left of the dreams I hold Is a band of gold HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Padijun Siger	Posted - 2006.02.17 09:24:00 - [292] Originally by: Dracolich We try to adapt to you not vice versa. And I wasnt trying to smack you, just give you some clue about what might happen to your corp in the future. I know you're not trying to be insulting, but there's flat out no other way to counter BSes outfitted like yours besides the "warp in or run" tactic without sustaining heavy losses. People are told when they join defense gangs that they'd better be prepared to sit patiently on a gate or leave the op. We won't win without patience. Originally by: Dracolich Sure.. I just thought u like to have fun, and t1 frigs is really nothing to write home about loosing, just some free advice. I don't know how I can say this any clearer: We're not stingy with T1 ships, but we're not going to throw them away by flying at you in a straight line when you're at 6 times the range of a warp disruptor. Originally by: Dracolich Except fun even fights. 3 months isnt long. But Cheers... Cu in space(or whatever). Well I guess that's up to opinion. After reading about your guys rep and joining the defense op, I found even the hit and run engagements in S-U pretty fun, because it felt like we were making you work for your paycheck.
Lowa	Posted - 2006.02.17 12:15:00 - [293] Ok, thats it: - ALL NSN IS TO STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD! - All negative remarks, slight smack, bad replies are to be deleted if possible! - If you have a propblem with that: BITE ME! I appologize for the behavior recently, its not who we are and never aim to be. We are out of here... Regards, LOWA NSN - Forcing EVE reviewers to mine since 2003!
Spiritech	Posted - 2006.02.17 13:06:00 - [294] And this thread was going so well. Does anybody else see it's one of the longest surviving non sticky threads as far as page numbers goes? Keep it civil and we can have the biggest thread in the forum! The above opinions are the opinions of Spiritech only, and are not to be taken as any official statement or stance
blarrgh	Posted - 2006.02.18 13:44:00 - [295] Has anyone else noticed that the rest of the Mercenary Coalition has moved down to Syndicate? Who ever hired NSN is getting thier money worth now that the rest of them have shown up. Good luck guys
Eyeshadow	Posted - 2006.02.18 14:35:00 - [296] Originally by: blarrgh Has anyone else noticed that the rest of the Mercenary Coalition has moved down to Syndicate? Who ever hired NSN is getting thier money worth now that the rest of them have shown up. Good luck guys Tis our birthday outing. Goons like to bring the tech1 zerge fleet so we thought we'd go down there and get a fight. Proved to be worthwhile My Latest Vid (16/02/06)
Nafri	Posted - 2006.02.18 14:39:00 - [297] Originally by: Spiritech And this thread was going so well. Does anybody else see it's one of the longest surviving non sticky threads as far as page numbers goes? Keep it civil and we can have the biggest thread in the forum! nah, 50 pages discussion that matari sucks
Raem Civrie	Posted - 2006.02.18 15:09:00 - [298] Never underestimate Goonfleet's skills towards complete forum retardation, especially with star performers such as Remedial and Firstname Lastname. --- God-King of Genitalia
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.02.18 15:10:00 - [299] Originally by: Raem Civrie Never underestimate Goonfleet's skills towards complete forum retardation, especially with star performers such as Remedial and Firstname Lastname. Says the "God-King of Genitalia".
Sesfan Qu'lah	Posted - 2006.02.18 17:33:00 - [300] Originally by: Raem Civrie Never underestimate Goonfleet's skills towards complete forum retardation, especially with star performers such as Remedial and Firstname Lastname. I'm really not sure why you bothered to post this, it's pure and simple flaming in a relatively friendly thread. Keep it off the forums please.

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