I have an IQ of 55 so I think I am qualified to deal with this...

Since we are obviously dealing with an intellectualy heavyweight in the form of the OP I thought I would bring in the concept known as "sensitivity to initial conditions". How many events both big and small have originated from the effects of that event? How many new players have discovered a thirst for revenge or on your case the sour taste of failure? How many of those wrecks have been salvaged and turned into rigs which in turn have allowed ships to destroy enemies. If you tunr back the server then you have effectively invalidated all of that emergent game play, on a simple whim becasue a trip into nullsec did not end how you imagined. This is pretty uch akin to not caring about all the other legitimate paying customers becasue you are unhappy you did not get what you wanted.

Think for a second what would have happened had the denizens of null not attacked. Presumably people joined this event over other more usual PVE content becasue it was going to null - I don't know what you imagined nullsec would be but if it was the same as empire or lowsec and not filled with frothing raging psychpaths it would be utterly mundane.

You think something should have been done about the TiDi? This is a mechanic brought in for large fleet movements - a symmetric effect that hampered both you and the nullsec brutes that slaughtered you and your chums when you stepped into their world from their own.

The fact is that there was no failure of hardware, no unexpected game bugs - no unfair advantage. You died becasue you were unprepared, inexperienced and at the mercy of people who make living in nullsec their entire raison d'etre.

Basically you are bad.

I did not die. it is in the op

Not on your forum warrior character at least......

Welcome into one of oh so many nullsec fleets that went sour because the FC screwed up, or got screwed by TiDi. It just happens.

As we spammed in local: "Welcome to nullsec".

But we care about the lore. We exist in the lore. That day shall be remembered as the one empires tried to interfere with our independence and we shot them for it. It's EVE, it's sandbox, the CFC and null empires exist within the lore.

We're the outer region empires that give little hoot about what empires think and should the self-proclaimed good guys get involved - we're ready in our steel boots to dispense some real A-Type Asskicking.

That's the spirit.

The difference is, when we get our rear ends handed to us in an epic mix of command clusterfuck and self-incompetence, we pass on the tale as "I was there when it went down and I battled, with all the might of my balls, against lag and bad FCs." and move onward. ("I killed an Exequoror in 6VDT. In below-10% TIDI. UPHILL. FOR TWO HOURS! And not even a lousy t-shirt was gained.")

You people whine because CCP didn't hold your hand and you got yourselves welped. Well, I suppose it's understandable - in the economy of EVE, for consumers of tears there must be a vast population producing this commodity. The delivery from this event could fill a goddamn oil tanker though.

You people whine because CCP didn't hold your hand and you got yourselves welped. Well, I suppose it's understandable - in the economy of EVE, for consumers of tears there must be a vast population producing this commodity. The delivery from this event could fill a goddamn oil tanker though.

Where's the monument to commemorate the first titan built by ASCN? Where's the wreck of Shrike's Avatar, the first actively piloted titan destroyed in the history of New Eden? Something to commemorate TEST's "final" stand and charge during the siege of 6VDT? (the war was over by then. They showed up in the name of all that is fun.)

What we need is a wreck field around the Mara stargate and a beacon that will tell someone the story of m0o. Show a player what another player can do in EVE.

**** why don't you just keep up on this level?

This, all this, above. Trii's comments have been both for and against the complaints but I can fully get behind the snips above and commend her on those points above.

Because tears are an important element of our culture. "Getting" them out of someone prompts the need to "link them" and share with the rest of community. Tears are a common reaction to loss and to being hurt. Their appearance is often associated with dealing a morale blow to your enemy, and causing them to flow can be a measure of proficiency. Memorable tears can also add to the experience of events.

Tears have a social aspect too. For instance, this event will forever be remembered as the one time we fought in a battle that spawned a fifty-page tears thread. There's no coming back from that - whether it was CCPs fault, our fleets or combinations of both people were mad at - tears were had, we enjoyed them.

So off the subject of tears and on to the lore...

Thing with "events" like this is that it actually strangely reflects reality. Rushing to play catch-up with your fleet in 10% TiDi happens, incompetent fleet commanders happen - and mistakes of competent ones do too. Very often a null grunt does fly blind and isn't aware of his destination. Hell, at least people in 8V- knew what they were shooting - with 0.0 you may never actually know if that tower you lost your ship reinforcing was a valuable R64 or some scrubmoon you hit just to deny income.

Sometimes you burn everything not blue to the ground and wave your alliance flag, then maybe swing your **** a little while screaming "HEY LOOK WE'RE AWESOME WE HAS SOV!". Sometimes you watch your reinforcing fleet enter warp, a cyno go up and a bunch of RnK battleships bridge in, smartbombs on, obliterating your lovely friends in seconds.

A few times TiDi will allow you to catch up to your engagement zone and participate in the battle. Other times, your staging system will be put in 10% and your allies will lose a Titan before you can bridge to save it.

The event had organizational problems and someone put it wisely in another post - deserved a buildup where there wasn't one (or maybe there was, and I just didn't pay attention.) but some posts and calls to unsub over essentially a CCP-induced fleetwelp are just way overkill so I'm mostly biased towards "HTFU, bad things happen in space every day."

**** just happens so I do actually believe that the incompetence of actor FC's was fully intentional. Was it astonishingly great event that got us all to attend like say, Burn Jita? No. Was it superbad? No. It was pretty normal day of fleet ops, with the twist of "hey, let's punch CONCORD in the spacehorse and have a blast. We'll probably die, but you'll be able to say 'I was there' so you can bring a snowflake ship."

(Cue a Machariel flying with Zealot fleet. And despite the pilot's repeated attempts to get it killed, it lived to welp another day.)

In their core, they're pretty much a lot of our adorable, benevolent ruthless vikings. Them being good to you isn't them bringing gifts, it's them not smacking you with an axe or stabbing with a large, pointy stick.

Whereas the complaints that the event had no content are legitimate (even a Dev flown empire Titan that did not participate in combat would have at least been something to look at and talk about) asking for reimbursement for ship loss is rather unreasonable.

Complain that there was no event as such if you want ... but reimbursement for ship loss ... no .. just no.

For clarities sake, My personal view of the event was never-ending TIDI no communication and no fun. I lost nothing but hours of my life even though i was prepared to if it was interesting.

Ok, live the lore, harvest the tearz.
Wouldn't it have been more fun for you if there were more tearz though?

It is clear that the OP has no rage or tears to speak about, and that some of the ragers here didn't read or understand.

When you post try not to let People get you upset there is room for your opinion too, and if you have something useful to bring, like a good idea, hopefully people will listen to you.