As always, liberty is best defended by hyper-bureaucratized and mindless gronks taught to kill for laughably simple understandings encapsulated in programmed keywords.

I miss Iraq. Al Fallujah 07.
good times. I got a muffin from the chow hall with a match stick as a candle. That's how we celebrated.

Errrrr

baltec1 - no, this has nothing to do with the election of the current leader of the country for which these stated individuals served.

We were founded in a bar

*Edit: Here's the Commandant's 238th birthday message

Making the rich richer and the poor dead!

...and offering out lives to ensure that you and others have the right to say silly shite without fear of retribution. (Whether that will REMAIN so has yet to be determined...)

...and offering out lives to ensure that you and others have the right to say silly shite without fear of retribution. (Whether that will REMAIN so has yet to be determined...)

...and offering out lives to ensure that you and others have the right to say silly shite without fear of retribution. (Whether that will REMAIN so has yet to be determined...)

We were founded in a bar

*Edit: Here's the Commandant's 238th birthday message

edit: Oh, and you're all decendants of traitors to the british crown. Just saying

Quite likely not as many as you think, and certainly not all.

Total USofA population in ~1820: 10 million
Total number of immigrants from ~1820 to ~1920: over 30 million
Current USA population: ~ 314 million
Current YEARLY number of immigrants: ~1 million

So it's almost guaranteed that there are the very least 30+ million citizens of the USA that have absolutely no ancestry that participated in the Independence War, and probably more than half of the population (so, call it 160+ million) is in the same boat.

11.11.1813
A day to remember.

Go Canada!

Current yearly birth rate means nothing I guess.

Quite likely not as many as you think, and certainly not all.
Given the massive amount of immigration a good while after having declared independence and the tendency for immigrants to "stick to their own kind" (and then there's also the "slave thing"), there's a good chance a big portion of the population of the USofA can't trace back any of its ancestors to somebody who was alive around those parts at that time.


The percentage of people with primary English or Irish ancestry combined is dwarfed by either one of those with mainly German, Mexican or African ancestry.

Total USofA population in ~1820: 10 million
Total number of immigrants from ~1820 to ~1920: over 30 million
Current USA population: ~ 314 million
Current YEARLY number of immigrants: ~1 million

So it's almost guaranteed that there are the very least 30+ million citizens of the USA that have absolutely no ancestry that participated in the Independence War, and probably more than half of the population (so, call it 160+ million) is in the same boat.

About 4 mil. Same order of magnitude. Out of which children of more or less recent immigrants tend to be the more numerous on average per family.

Currently about 1/8 of the population are "1st generation Americans" (a.k.a. immigrants), and an additional 1/4 of the total is 2nd generation American (i.e. kids of immigrants). That's pretty much 1/3 of the population that it's basically guaranteed to have no direct line relation whatsoever to any American Revolutionaries, and we weren't even looking at 3rd gen (grandkids of immigrants).

We're not Watusi. We're not Spartans. We're Americans, with a capital 'A', huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We're the underdog. We're mutts!

I would poke more holes in this and try to explain to you what you are missing, but if you don't get it already I doubt you would understand anyway.
So I'm not gonna waste my fingers >.<

I am simply saying they are American citizens that can't trace back their ancestry to anybody that lived in the American colonies during the independence war.
I'm NOT saying those people are "not Americans" nor any other such nonsense.

Quite the contrary, actually, some of the 1st generation immigrants are probably "more American" than quite a few Nth generation ones, and pretty much the same for a lot of the 2nd generation ones.
And yes, not every last 2nd generation child is born from two 1st generation immigrants, a sizable portion might be born from one immigrant parent and somebody else with a few more "local" generations behind them, but if you look at the 3rd generation, whatever exceptions you get from the 2nd generation is sure to be more than compensated for with 3rd generation people. And it is quite conceivable there could be some 5th or even 7th generation "Americans" that have no direct line "original American" ancestors.

Bottom line, about at least a third of the country's population is almost guaranteed to have no direct line ancestors that lived in the American colonies during the independence war.
No more, no less. No implication. No morality. No superiority nor inferiority. Simply ancestry and nothing else.

I'm confused, I thought that's why we had Australia, you were not important enough to ship halfway across the world so you left on your own

You took a swing but you completely missed the point.

We're not Watusi. We're not Spartans. We're Americans, with a capital 'A', huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world. We are the wretched refuse. We're the underdog. We're mutts! Here's proof: his nose is cold! But there's no animal that's more faithful, that's more loyal, more loveable than the mutt. Who saw Old Yeller? Who cried when Old Yeller got shot at the end? [raises his hand] Nobody cried when Old Yeller got shot? I'm sure. [hands are reluctantly raised] I cried my eyes out. [even more hands go up]
-Private Winger: "Stripes"