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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:23:00 -
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With the coming expansion, EVE Online: Rubicon, we will improve the character selection screen and replace it with a brand new version!
Read all about the new character selection screen and its improved functionality in CCP Fear's new dev blog here. CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager |
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Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
79
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:24:00 -
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Fun! And informative. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9978
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:26:00 -
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I quite liked it as well. What I miss though is that the last pilot was default so you could just press Enter to select/log in.
Bring that back pls.
/c
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Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
79
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:35:00 -
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Chribba wrote:I quite liked it as well. What I miss though is that the last pilot was default so you could just press Enter to select/log in.
Bring that back pls.
/c You could have it so initially Enter selects the left most, and Tab changes what would be selected via Enter.
Also: First Information Portal thread with the first reply not saying first. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9978
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:36:00 -
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Gaia Ma'chello wrote:Chribba wrote:I quite liked it as well. What I miss though is that the last pilot was default so you could just press Enter to select/log in.
Bring that back pls.
/c You could have it so initially Enter selects the left most, and Tab changes what would be selected via Enter. Also: First Information Portal thread with the first reply not saying first. Or that, I just want to be able to be lazy and use the enter key haha
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2778

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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:40:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Gaia Ma'chello wrote:Chribba wrote:I quite liked it as well. What I miss though is that the last pilot was default so you could just press Enter to select/log in.
Bring that back pls.
/c You could have it so initially Enter selects the left most, and Tab changes what would be selected via Enter. Also: First Information Portal thread with the first reply not saying first. Or that, I just want to be able to be lazy and use the enter key haha Stop being lazy! 
Also, that's the plan... that Enter enters the game with the left most character (since we order them by logoff time) CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Kurosomething |-á@CCP_karkur |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1473
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:45:00 -
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good job guys. glad to see eve being improved in any aspect possible.
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5435
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:46:00 -
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Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs. |

wizardz
Quebec Heavy Industries
0
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:49:00 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) this! |

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
656
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:54:00 -
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Looks good, works good.
An option to lock the location would be nice becouse it goes by past log in time I have logged in the same character a couple times when trying to switch.
With news now only on the launcher, a Neocom short cut to either the current news using the browser or a link out side the news scroll to the last weeks "This week in EVE" Forum post would make it easier for those that do not go in the CC or the forums to find this info. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9979
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Posted - 2013.11.11 17:58:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Chribba wrote:Gaia Ma'chello wrote:Chribba wrote:I quite liked it as well. What I miss though is that the last pilot was default so you could just press Enter to select/log in.
Bring that back pls.
/c You could have it so initially Enter selects the left most, and Tab changes what would be selected via Enter. Also: First Information Portal thread with the first reply not saying first. Or that, I just want to be able to be lazy and use the enter key haha Stop being lazy!  Also, that's the plan... that Enter enters the game with the left most character (since we order them by logoff time) GÖÑ
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aoeu Itonula
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:00:00 -
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Love how you can see the time remaining on subscription! It's weirdly hard to find that information unless you're low on time. Would also love for it to be added to the Pilot's License tab on the character sheet, but that's outside the scope of this post. |

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
656
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:04:00 -
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aoeu Itonula wrote:Love how you can see the time remaining on subscription! It's weirdly hard to find that information unless you're low on time. Would also love for it to be added to the Pilot's License tab on the character sheet, but that's outside the scope of this post. Its not time of subscription, unless it does but will not show if auto renew is setup. Its the extra training time for 2nd and 3rd characters. |

Tubrug1
Zebra Corp Gentlemen's Agreement
300
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:09:00 -
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This is great, but could you add a switch character button to the menu? Writer of The Eve Onion http://eveion.blogspot.co.uk/
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CCP karkur
C C P C C P Alliance
2780

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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:15:00 -
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wizardz wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) this! No. We would love to be able to do that, but that is not at all a "character selection screen" issue. Once a connection has been made, both the server code and client code make a lot of assumptions that the characterID will not change, and it's very far from trivial to change that (otherwise we probably would have done that a long time ago) CCP karkur | User Interface Programmer | Team Kurosomething |-á@CCP_karkur |
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
2169
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:21:00 -
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i really like it. The banners are back too which is nice.
the first time i saw the new screen it i hoped you added a parallax effect and i tried to move my mouse around ;) Maybe this would be an option for further improvement without making load times worse. eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW |

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
681
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:22:00 -
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CCP Fear.... I have a question to ask of you. May I borrow 100 million ISK? Those changes are nice. *removed inappropriate signature* - CCP Eterne |

Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
5437
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:30:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:wizardz wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) this! No. We would love to be able to do that, but that is not at all a "character selection screen" issue. Once a connection has been made, both the server code and client code make a lot of assumptions that the characterID will not change, and it's very far from trivial to change that (otherwise we probably would have done that a long time ago)
Hey there!
Definitely understood that it's a non-trivial change and not in the scope of this dev blog (which is awesome, by the way!), and definitely don't expect it to come out of the blue. Still, if it could be kept on the radar, that'd be brilliant. Juggling multiple accounts with multiple characters can be sometimes headache-inducing, with the launcher being relogged into various accounts so that I can swap to new cynos, haulers, whatnot. This would be one of those quality-of-life changes that I think many players would appreciate.
If I Fanfest this year, I'll absolutely bribe any dev involved in this effort with booze of their choice. Priano Trans-Stellar: elegant solutions for the State's needs. |

TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
274
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:40:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:wizardz wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) this! No. We would love to be able to do that, but that is not at all a "character selection screen" issue. Once a connection has been made, both the server code and client code make a lot of assumptions that the characterID will not change, and it's very far from trivial to change that (otherwise we probably would have done that a long time ago)
Alright, but is this issue something you guys are keeping in mind as you are rewriting mentioned code? It would indeed be nice to have a proper log off button that takes you back to the character selection screen. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |

PinkKnife
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
423
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:42:00 -
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So, for those of us with computers that aren't pre-millennium, can we get the full character load screens as an option? |
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Xaarous
Fleetworks Silent Infinity
4
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:54:00 -
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Regarding character selection: The way I'd like to see this done is to give users a command-line option to the launcher that lets you pass in the account name to be pre-populated. Then, if I want to manage 3 characters (and I do ), I can have 3 *shortcuts*. That still saves clicks vs. using the switch-account feature.
At that point, it'd also be nice to have the launcher close on play (maybe a checkbox next to the auto-play checkbox?).
Edit: Just had another thought. You know how with Office, you can right click and go straight to a doc? How about showing your auto-complete account list when you right click on the launcher shortcut on the taskbar? |

cpu939
Eternal Darkness. Fatal Ascension
40
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Posted - 2013.11.11 18:55:00 -
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i know it's all subjective but i think this is ugly - i was hoping for more... but i don't know what. somethings i like, the timers are good and the drop items to the char |

Aethlyn
EVE University Ivy League
241
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:05:00 -
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Only one little thing immediately coming to my mind: "Add Character" is centered, while the character name(s) are not. I'd center them all and only use left alignment, if a name doesn't fit into the box (or possible make it scroll then instead). Looking for more thoughts? Follow me on Twitter. |

Aethlyn
EVE University Ivy League
241
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:06:00 -
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Xaarous wrote:Edit: Just had another thought. You know how with Office, you can right click and go straight to a doc? How about showing your auto-complete account list when you right click on the launcher shortcut on the taskbar? You're talking about custom tasks when right clicking a pinned launcher? That would be neat! Although it might be a possible security problem. :( Looking for more thoughts? Follow me on Twitter. |

Drak Fel
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
35
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:08:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:wizardz wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) this! No. We would love to be able to do that, but that is not at all a "character selection screen" issue. Once a connection has been made, both the server code and client code make a lot of assumptions that the characterID will not change, and it's very far from trivial to change that (otherwise we probably would have done that a long time ago)
Could you work on that instead?
Being able to switch characters without having to completely close the client and log in again would be much more useful than spending your time on making the screen players try to get past as fast as possible when you're logging in look nice. |

Kelduum Revaan
Malkuth Technologies Inc.
2072
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:34:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote:So, for those of us with computers that aren't pre-millennium, can we get the full character load screens as an option? I'd agree with that too - despite long load times. CCP would need a Full body character renderer to supplement the portrait renderer, but it could be faded from a static image to the 3D model the same way the "card" based character select screen in Dota 2 does it once the character is loaded.
Hell, you could even have a pre-rendered video of the characters (generated locally on the client) doing their idle animations and save load-times. Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University (Retired) |

Noriko Mai
1037
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:35:00 -
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ATM the news item (CCP Guard with DevBlog 1 of 2) is to big. It's also hides the ship/system/station info. Can you maybe display it on the side or something? |

Kelduum Revaan
Malkuth Technologies Inc.
2072
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:36:00 -
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Drak Fel wrote:CCP karkur wrote:wizardz wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) this! No. We would love to be able to do that, but that is not at all a "character selection screen" issue. Once a connection has been made, both the server code and client code make a lot of assumptions that the characterID will not change, and it's very far from trivial to change that (otherwise we probably would have done that a long time ago) Could you work on that instead? Being able to switch characters without having to completely close the client and log in again would be much more useful than spending your time on making the screen players try to get past as fast as possible when logging in look nice.
Apart from the reason she explained, that's something which has been asked for a lot over the last 10+ years. I'm guessing once all the server-side code has been modernised, it would be possible then.
I'd expect to see that some time in 2024...  Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University (Retired) |

Tavarus Excavar
Obsidian Firelance Technologies
11
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:41:00 -
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Where is going to be the eve news? Stop making the fiction and events harder to access. i miss easy to access chronicles. |

Merida DunBrogh
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:48:00 -
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So did you add an ability to see your entire training queue, or the total time till completion? Or still just the most recent skill?
What about hiding the characters etc. to show the full background?
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Arec Bardwin
1179
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Posted - 2013.11.11 19:52:00 -
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Remember to set a long skill before patch day, girls  |

Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
251
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:06:00 -
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Very nice design, laid out simple and easy to read. It looks sexy, cant wait to see it on TQ. |
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CCP Fear
C C P C C P Alliance
247

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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:21:00 -
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Noriko Mai wrote:ATM the news item (CCP Guard with DevBlog 1 of 2) is to big. It's also hides the ship/system/station info. Can you maybe display it on the side or something?
The sizes of the ads themselves need to be adjusted. We are in process of doing that just now. |
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Fraucha Tanakoh
Playboy Enterprises Dark Taboo
0
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:22:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:CCP karkur wrote:wizardz wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) this! No. We would love to be able to do that, but that is not at all a "character selection screen" issue. Once a connection has been made, both the server code and client code make a lot of assumptions that the characterID will not change, and it's very far from trivial to change that (otherwise we probably would have done that a long time ago) Alright, but is this issue something you guys are keeping in mind as you are rewriting mentioned code? It would indeed be nice to have a proper log off button that takes you back to the character selection screen.
Interesting that you can't implement this. Blizzard (WoW) has been doing just that for 9 years. 10 characters per server, a one key exit to the character selection screen and back in game with a different character AND selecting new servers to boot if you so desire. I am sure YOU have seen it as many others here have used it at one time or another, and it is not like WoW's characters and amount of crap they have tied to each character including where they last logged off is any less than EvE's ... well I guess you can see why we wonder why you haven't implemented a similar system over just ONE server with far less characters. |

ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters
23
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:32:00 -
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Xaarous wrote:Regarding character selection: The way I'd like to see this done is to give users a command-line option to the launcher that lets you pass in the account name to be pre-populated. Then, if I want to manage 3 characters (and I do  ), I can have 3 *shortcuts*. That still saves clicks vs. using the switch-account feature. THIS! Ten times this!
The current account selection of the launcher is a step back from what we had before if you want to select a different account. The character selection dropdown is not hotkey-friendly. Before I had two game installs, one for either account (still easy with just two accounts).
Quote:At that point, it'd also be nice to have the launcher close on play (maybe a checkbox next to the auto-play checkbox?). Well, I usually keep the launcher open, in case I want to switch character. Then I just close the game and restart it from the launcher. But if I'd have a commandline option to select account, that's a small extra step.
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TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
275
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:33:00 -
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Fraucha Tanakoh wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:CCP karkur wrote:wizardz wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) this! No. We would love to be able to do that, but that is not at all a "character selection screen" issue. Once a connection has been made, both the server code and client code make a lot of assumptions that the characterID will not change, and it's very far from trivial to change that (otherwise we probably would have done that a long time ago) Alright, but is this issue something you guys are keeping in mind as you are rewriting mentioned code? It would indeed be nice to have a proper log off button that takes you back to the character selection screen. Interesting that you can't implement this. Blizzard (WoW) has been doing just that for 9 years. 10 characters per server, a one key exit to the character selection screen and back in game with a different character AND selecting new servers to boot if you so desire. I am sure YOU have seen it as many others here have used it at one time or another, and it is not like WoW's characters and amount of crap they have tied to each character including where they last logged off is any less than EvE's ... well I guess you can see why we wonder why you haven't implemented a similar system over just ONE server with far less characters.
What about "whole fucktons of code would have to be re-written" do you not understand? WoW was probably written with the functionality in mind and EVE wasn't. Design flaw on CCP's part back in 2003 maybe, but like Karkur said, not something that is easily fixed now without taking the code throughout the entire game apart. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |

ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters
23
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:34:00 -
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Salpun wrote:Looks good, works good.
An option to lock the location would be nice becouse it goes by past log in time I have logged in the same character a couple times when trying to switch.
Indeed. Many people are very spatially oriented. I'd really like to have the option to keep the order of accounts the same.
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Byrrssa Crendraven
Anti - Social Eternal Pretorian Alliance
10
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:35:00 -
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CCP Fear,
Just a quick note - There was no link to this forum in your blog.
Also, I love the selection screen and would also like to see the logoff back to the character selection screen. |

Freelancer117
so you want to be a Hero
90
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:38:00 -
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Please add 4 character slots into the new selection screen (seen it on a presentation during Eve Vegas 2013) I need more alts and less accounts, plus with the new alt training for plex it will make me a happy Freelancer  Eve rule no.1: The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
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ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters
23
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:40:00 -
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TigerXtrm wrote:Fraucha Tanakoh wrote:TigerXtrm wrote:CCP karkur wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) No. We would love to be able to do that, but that is not at all a "character selection screen" issue. Once a connection has been made, both the server code and client code make a lot of assumptions that the characterID will not change, and it's very far from trivial to change that (otherwise we probably would have done that a long time ago) Alright, but is this issue something you guys are keeping in mind as you are rewriting mentioned code? It would indeed be nice to have a proper log off button that takes you back to the character selection screen. Interesting that you can't implement this. Blizzard (WoW) has been doing just that for 9 years. 10 characters per server, a one key exit to the character selection screen and back in game with a different character AND selecting new servers to boot if you so desire. I am sure YOU have seen it as many others here have used it at one time or another, and it is not like WoW's characters and amount of crap they have tied to each character including where they last logged off is any less than EvE's ... well I guess you can see why we wonder why you haven't implemented a similar system over just ONE server with far less characters. What about "whole fucktons of code would have to be re-written" do you not understand? WoW was probably written with the functionality in mind and EVE wasn't. Design flaw on CCP's part back in 2003 maybe, but like Karkur said, not something that is easily fixed now without taking the code throughout the entire game apart.
But it's a matter of implementation. Instead of a simple 'quit' functionality, you add a bit to create a 'restart' functionality. That closes the client and restarts it to get to the character selection.
Especially with multiple accounts and a single launcher (with account selection), it would be nice to restart the client for the current account without having to go through the launcher. That can save an extra login action.
And perhaps if you look at it from that angle, you can even find a place to go back to in the initialisation of the game client, so you don't have to actually restart it completely.
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CCP Fear
C C P C C P Alliance
247

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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:49:00 -
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re; returning to login-screen.
This has been a personal pet-peeve of mine for quite many years. I have suggested on a few occasions to change this, however this requires some changes to how the server/client communication happens and that is some major work that takes a lot of time and effort to do.
So as much as I wanted (and many more) to make this happen it just did wasn't suitable, but you never know if that will change! |
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
777
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:56:00 -
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CCP Fear wrote:re; returning to login-screen.
This has been a personal pet-peeve of mine for quite many years. I have suggested on a few occasions to change this, however this requires some changes to how the server/client communication happens and that is some major work that takes a lot of time and effort to do.
So as much as I wanted (and many more) to make this happen it just did wasn't suitable, but you never know if that will change! Give it to CCP Masterplan, he will get it sorted. If he could unwind the warp acceleration code he can unwind the character swapping code. Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Mashie Saldana
BFG Tech
777
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Posted - 2013.11.11 20:57:00 -
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PinkKnife wrote:So, for those of us with computers that aren't pre-millennium, can we get the full character load screens as an option? This so very much. Mashie Saldana Dominique Vasilkovsky
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Hashi Lebwohl
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
35
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:12:00 -
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I notice you don't have more than one character on your screen shots in the dev blog - done because people might notice how the unselect characters' corporation logo are rendered so badly?
If you were thinking of rendering characters in full at one point how come corporation logos are currently defeating you?
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Lord Battlestar
CALIMA COLLABORATIVE Atrox Urbanis Respublique Abundatia
101
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:19:00 -
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Looks really awesome, I am looking foreward to it. I once podded myself by blowing a huge fart. |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
1196
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:36:00 -
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I miss news feed.
BTW why exactly this expansion is named "Rubicon"? CCP is starting war against big alliances or what? |

Tora Hamaji
Republic University Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:50:00 -
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I don't know if what's on SiSi is the final version, but it's taking ages longer than what's on Tranq to load.
Also, TOO much red! please tone it down or let us choose alternative themes. |

Verlaine Glariant
Amphysvena
41
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Posted - 2013.11.11 21:57:00 -
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wizardz wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) this! Yes, this VERY MUCH. We've been asking for it for years (literally!).
www.amphysvena.org |

Agoma Akira
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:00:00 -
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I must say yes it looks pretty, but again You lovey people @ ccp keep dissapointing me.
As ccp you lot have been endorsing multiboxing/dualaccounting/ or whatever one would call it. with the introduction of the first launcher gething into game has only gotten more steps to actualy login another account or just switching a toon in one account. (yes I know by only one step but still)
well pre launcher you could just launch multiple clients at the same time, now it's back and forth with the switch user thingy.
When are we getthing some nice upgrades for a function wich you lot actually try having as much players as possible do (having more then 1 account).
can we finaly get something that just remembers or logs in multiple accounts in one go (up to character selection ofcourse.)
yes there is the security thing: clients already remember account names in the pretty dropdown menu so there's always been a small issue (internet cafe's, schools)
security fix: just make it only remember passwords and loggins with an explicit yes of the player.
thanks for your attention :)
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Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
180
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:00:00 -
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Will CCP eventually support n characters per account rather than just 3?
I would love a long term vision to include:
- One (1) account can have n characters
- One (1) account can have n simultaneous logins.
- One (1) account can have n active skill queues.
- Accounts may login one (1) character per login.
- Accounts may have one (1) active skill queue per active login + additional skill queues
- A monthly subscription purchases: three (3) characters, one (1) login, one (1) skill queue.
- PLEX can be used to purchase additional skill queues.
- PLEX can be used to purchase additional character slots.
- PLEX can be used to purchase additional logins.
Basically, separate "account" from "character" from "login" from "skill queue", though support product bundling.
One requirement for such a system: APIs cannot provide any means of showing the number of characters on an account. A given API should be able to show multiple characters, but not the total number of characters. This would support spying and other metagame activities. Fix POSes.-á Every player should want one (even if all players can't have one). |
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Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
358
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:01:00 -
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My biggest problem with your new "simpler" screen is this. YOU have decided exactly what small bit of info the players wished to know...and how to prioritize that info.
My biggest problem with that is....i don't care 'how many' skills i have completed since my last log-in....i DO want to know how many SP i have. It's not like we have the option of looking at the skills that are so proudly displayed in the log-in screen.
Please remove this useless feature...as it currently stands, if i've completed ANY skills since my last log-in, it no longer displays my current SP, but proudly shows the number of skills i've completed. Next. To. Useless. And you guys seriously play this game? http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing -á-á < Unified Inventory is NOT ready... |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2473
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:07:00 -
[52] - Quote
Well, it's not the old loginanimated screen (gonna miss them for a while, sigh) but at least it's meant to be a welcome page, unlike the old character selection screen...  The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |

Niko Lorenzio
United Eve Directorate
272
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:19:00 -
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Very nice overall, however, I think the mail icon with the count somewhere on the portrait would be much more visible. It seems like there will be a lot of unnecessary scanning involved to see if any characters have unread mail. Either way, nice work. |

mechtech
Ice Liberation Army
562
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:48:00 -
[54] - Quote
Great to see the expansion themes back, hopefully they're animated and have an expansion specific soundtrack too, like the old launcher! |

Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
528
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Posted - 2013.11.11 22:48:00 -
[55] - Quote
CCP Fear wrote:re; returning to login-screen.
This has been a personal pet-peeve of mine for quite many years. I have suggested on a few occasions to change this, however this requires some changes to how the server/client communication happens and that is some major work that takes a lot of time and effort to do.
So as much as I wanted (and many more) to make this happen it just did wasn't suitable, but you never know if that will change!
That's what I think about the situation.  Protect yourself from CONCORD today! Tinfoil hats, quality product. Styled after pirate hats. |

Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
410
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:09:00 -
[56] - Quote
This feature is now Maul555 approved...
You are welcome. |

Liner Xiandra
Sparks Inc Zero Hour Alliance
236
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:09:00 -
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Please make the expansion background animated. Its so 1990 with the static wallpaper. The current does not look like you're about to enter a living universe. |

Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
410
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:10:00 -
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Liner Xiandra wrote:Please make the expansion background animated. Its so 1990 with the static wallpaper. The current does not look like you're about to enter a living universe.
da fuq? its static? eve has had an animated login screen since beta! |

Mr Beardsley
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2013.11.11 23:16:00 -
[59] - Quote
CCP Fear wrote:re; returning to login-screen.
This has been a personal pet-peeve of mine for quite many years. I have suggested on a few occasions to change this, however this requires some changes to how the server/client communication happens and that is some major work that takes a lot of time and effort to do.
So as much as I wanted (and many more) to make this happen it just did wasn't suitable, but you never know if that will change!
We're about five or six years overdo for an end-to-end code overhaul. Unfortunately adding new features that are either broken at launch or which get broken in the following expansion always seem to take precedence. |

Moonaura
The Dead Rabbit Society
314
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:14:00 -
[60] - Quote
I love you guys, and for the Dev's who worked on this, this isn't aimed at you, as it isn't you guys who decide what is done next etc - that is where the designers/producers come in.
But clearly, if you asked the players. what you spent your time on developing stuff, I can't imagine this was at the top of the list for well... anyone.
And shoving it under the remit of 'NPE' is a copout - because, frankly, if new players can't figure out how to use the existing login screen, well honestly - they are going to fail very hard at playing EVE :)
There is a long list of things that still need fixing in this game that would help CCP make more money and retain more players than a new login screen, that most of us spend about 5 seconds looking at.
Edit: I should add: 5 seconds looking at before we spend the next hour ship spinning and watching the spin counter go up. Now there was dev time well spent. Boldly going forward, still can't find reverse - name that tune kids! |
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Ramman K'arojic
Deep Black Industries Yulai Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.11.12 00:18:00 -
[61] - Quote
CCP Fear wrote:re; returning to login-screen.
This has been a personal pet-peeve of mine for quite many years. I have suggested on a few occasions to change this, however this requires some changes to how the server/client communication happens and that is some major work that takes a lot of time and effort to do.
So as much as I wanted (and many more) to make this happen it just did wasn't suitable, but you never know if that will change!
Instead of major subsystems re-writes; cant you just add a 'Swap Character' button that automatically quits and restarts the client again - using the same login / password token used previously.
Sure its not sexy as a turn key solution complete with air condition waiting room for your characters to chilax in but it solves 80% of the issue hate..
Also great Dev Blog. |

Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S Northern Associates.
148
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:28:00 -
[62] - Quote
Panhead4411 wrote:My biggest problem with your new "simpler" screen is this. YOU have decided exactly what small bit of info the players wished to know...and how to prioritize that info.
My biggest problem with that is....i don't care 'how many' skills i have completed since my last log-in....i DO want to know how many SP i have. It's not like we have the option of looking at the skills that are so proudly displayed in the log-in screen.
Please remove this useless feature...as it currently stands, if i've completed ANY skills since my last log-in, it no longer displays my current SP, but proudly shows the number of skills i've completed. Next. To. Useless. And you guys seriously play this game? With your specific thing of preferring SP of Skills finished, I disagree, I don't care how much SP I have, but if a skill has finished I might mean that I have finished a pre-req for another skill and that I should sign into that Character to check if I can inject a new skill. |

Aijle Mijleroff
Infernal laboratory Infernal Octopus
31
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:30:00 -
[63] - Quote
All good, but I don't like new button for terminate character. New button for terminate character screen looks like button in windows for close program screen , it may confuse people. If only not 10 hour delay for terminate characters YOU CCP will have big problems after patch 
draw a skull in place of the cross there |

Caldari 5
D.I.L.L.I.G.A.F. S.A.S Northern Associates.
148
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:33:00 -
[64] - Quote
Salpun wrote:Looks good, works good.
An option to lock the location would be nice becouse it goes by past log in time I have logged in the same character a couple times when trying to switch.
With news now only on the launcher, a Neocom short cut to either the current news using the browser or a link out side the news scroll to the last weeks "This week in EVE" Forum post would make it easier for those that do not go in the CC or the forums to find this info. .... There was News on the old character screen???? Logs into Eve.... SO there was, I've never paused long enough on the Character selection screen to let that load before. |

John McCreedy
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
112
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Posted - 2013.11.12 01:48:00 -
[65] - Quote
Cool. Now if you can just do away with the outmoded "Accounts" and replace them with blocks of character slots so we don't have to have a bazillion different log in details, that would be round this off nicely. |

Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
367
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Posted - 2013.11.12 03:22:00 -
[66] - Quote
Thats great and all.... but the background looks rather RED....
Can I please have mine in BLUE...?
(It's medical - thanks) |

ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters
25
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Posted - 2013.11.12 06:52:00 -
[67] - Quote
Ramman K'arojic wrote:CCP Fear wrote:re; returning to login-screen.
This has been a personal pet-peeve of mine for quite many years. I have suggested on a few occasions to change this, however this requires some changes to how the server/client communication happens and that is some major work that takes a lot of time and effort to do.
So as much as I wanted (and many more) to make this happen it just did wasn't suitable, but you never know if that will change! Instead of major subsystems re-writes; cant you just add a 'Swap Character' button that automatically quits and restarts the client again - using the same login / password token used previously. Sure its not sexy as a turn key solution complete with air condition waiting room for your characters to chilax in but it solves 80% of the issue hate.. Also great Dev Blog. Since my own exact same comment was ignored by the dev, I'll quote yours "for truth". |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
4607
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Posted - 2013.11.12 08:06:00 -
[68] - Quote
I read this is a "goal oriented" change.
What if the goal is wrong?
I mean, do we care to have some nicer looking, somewhat better streamlined buttons, when what we need since a decade is simply a button to swap characters without leaving the game?
Wouldn't it be anyway much quicker to switch characters in game than re-loading the client, despite you make that quicker?
Also, about the devblog call about aesthetics, immersion etc.: which goal did you achieve by brutally taking away one of the most beloved start up features, that is a beautiful music and awesome log in animated scene?
THOSE things, and not 3 buttons, defined EvE since the first glance.
So, please re-evaluate your goals on the light of what players need and liked, not just to speed up a couple of clicks. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Camper101
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
880
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Posted - 2013.11.12 08:22:00 -
[69] - Quote
Ramman K'arojic wrote:CCP Fear wrote:re; returning to login-screen.
This has been a personal pet-peeve of mine for quite many years. I have suggested on a few occasions to change this, however this requires some changes to how the server/client communication happens and that is some major work that takes a lot of time and effort to do.
So as much as I wanted (and many more) to make this happen it just did wasn't suitable, but you never know if that will change! Instead of major subsystems re-writes; cant you just add a 'Swap Character' button that automatically quits and restarts the client again - using the same login / password token used previously. Sure its not sexy as a turn key solution complete with air condition waiting room for your characters to chilax in but it solves 80% of the issue hate.. Also great Dev Blog.
Yup. I don't care about a fancy login screen. But I do care about restarting the game everytime I just wanna check prices in Jita. Or relog Cyno toonies. Or just wanna relog for reloggings sake.
I've been asking for this for years. Others even longer, time to get that work done finally.
Edit: But yeah, the login screen looks cool :P 2013.03.01 13:30:58 notify For participating in the General Discussion Forum Section your trustworthiness has been adjusted by -2.5000.
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Zappity
Kurved Space
623
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Posted - 2013.11.12 08:50:00 -
[70] - Quote
The feature I am most interested in is having 233 trillion isk in MY account. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
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SpaceSaft
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
10
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Posted - 2013.11.12 09:13:00 -
[71] - Quote
Quote:Two of our most important goals on this project were fast loading and an improved user experience.
Quote:The concept conflicted with our main goal, and had to go.
Quote:Improving the user experience was another of our top priorities.
Slow down please, what where your goals and why did you think removing the old log in screen would be a step closer to them? Also I don't see how the new screen is more aesthetically pleasing or more useful than the last, except for the PLEX expiration timer. But you could have put that anywhere. Not sure if I like... Besides that I also hold the oppinion that CCP should make a PC version for Dust 514. |

Fergus Runkle
Truth and Reconciliation Council
39
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Posted - 2013.11.12 09:33:00 -
[72] - Quote
CCP karkur wrote:wizardz wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) this! No. We would love to be able to do that, but that is not at all a "character selection screen" issue. Once a connection has been made, both the server code and client code make a lot of assumptions that the characterID will not change, and it's very far from trivial to change that (otherwise we probably would have done that a long time ago)
Umm, so why if we bypass that launcher do-hicky do we have the ability to log off and return to the character selection screen then?
This IS something you did a long time ago, the introduction of the launcher BROKE this ability. |

Rionan Nafee
Industrie und Handels Konsortium Tribunal Alliance
258
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Posted - 2013.11.12 10:05:00 -
[73] - Quote
I like it very much. 
But why only the remaining days for PLEX, ETC and trial acounts will be displayed. It would be very nice if the remaining days to the next recurring payment with e.g. credit card will be displayed, too.
I find it would be more understandable if you change the simple X to a skull icon for deleting a character.
Finally I would be happy about if also new notifications would be displayed not only new mails.
When the left charater is selected per default for entering with Enter maybe it should be highlighted per default.
EDIT: I think it would be great if there is an confirmation question when you drag and drop an redeeming item on a charakter. Addidional the possibility of splitting stacks.
Thank you |
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CCP Fear
C C P C C P Alliance
253

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Posted - 2013.11.12 10:35:00 -
[74] - Quote
Caldari 5 wrote:Panhead4411 wrote:My biggest problem with your new "simpler" screen is this. YOU have decided exactly what small bit of info the players wished to know...and how to prioritize that info.
My biggest problem with that is....i don't care 'how many' skills i have completed since my last log-in....i DO want to know how many SP i have. It's not like we have the option of looking at the skills that are so proudly displayed in the log-in screen.
Please remove this useless feature...as it currently stands, if i've completed ANY skills since my last log-in, it no longer displays my current SP, but proudly shows the number of skills i've completed. Next. To. Useless. And you guys seriously play this game? With your specific thing of preferring SP of Skills finished, I disagree, I don't care how much SP I have, but if a skill has finished I might mean that I have finished a pre-req for another skill and that I should sign into that Character to check if I can inject a new skill.
It does show both. If there is a completed skill since last log-in then it will display that. If there is no change, i.e. no completed skills, then it will show the total SP. |
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CCP Fear
C C P C C P Alliance
253

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Posted - 2013.11.12 10:37:00 -
[75] - Quote
Rionan Nafee wrote:I like it very much.  But why only the remaining days for PLEX, ETC and trial acounts will be displayed. It would be very nice if the remaining days to the next recurring payment with e.g. credit card will be displayed, too. I find it would be more understandable if you change the simple X to a skull icon for deleting a character. Finally I would be happy about if also new notifications would be displayed not only new mails. When the left charater is selected per default for entering with Enter maybe it should be highlighted per default. EDIT: I think it would be great if there is an confirmation question when you drag and drop an redeeming item on a charakter. Addidional the possibility of splitting stacks. Thank you
We did consider having recurring subscription as a timer as well, but as it is not showing "expiry" but rather "time until renewal" we decided to not include it as it wouldn't fit thematically.
We opted for not splitting stacks for now, for simplicity sakes as we determined that most players do not need to split stacks. But we have it on our radar. |
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CCP Fear
C C P C C P Alliance
253

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Posted - 2013.11.12 10:38:00 -
[76] - Quote
Vyktor Abyss wrote:Thats great and all.... but the background looks rather RED....
Can I please have mine in BLUE...?
(It's medical - thanks)
Maybe in the next expansion! |
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CCP Fear
C C P C C P Alliance
253

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Posted - 2013.11.12 10:40:00 -
[77] - Quote
Niko Lorenzio wrote:Very nice overall, however, I think the mail icon with the count somewhere on the portrait would be much more visible. It seems like there will be a lot of unnecessary scanning involved to see if any characters have unread mail. Either way, nice work.
I tend to agree with this. Will bring it up with the team. We are very close to the release however so it might have to wait. |
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Xqpvqsvs Qr'atyuqink
20
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:32:00 -
[78] - Quote
Still only 3 character slots?. Its silly, we got 2013 not 2003. |

Max Kolonko
High Voltage Industries Ash Alliance
356
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:34:00 -
[79] - Quote
Xqpvqsvs Qr'atyuqink wrote:Still only 3 character slots?. Its silly, we got 2013 not 2003.
Its UI change, not design change... Read and support: Don't mess with OUR WH's What is Your stance on WH stuff? |

Xqpvqsvs Qr'atyuqink
20
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Posted - 2013.11.12 11:48:00 -
[80] - Quote
No one is prohibiting ccp from doing usefull changes except of ccp itself. Three character slots was viable in previous decade. Too bad eve isnt evolving like other games which does not limiting player experience in such way.
Looks like ccp is putting all money eve earns, into dust (which is garbage anyway) and this just cant end well. Thats why we wont see expansions with new content like wormholes, just endless rebalance of old ships, trials, along with new warp and jump animation each year and free christmas shuttle. |
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BugraT WarheaD
67
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Posted - 2013.11.12 12:10:00 -
[81] - Quote
Have you noticed that when you try to toggle to remove, in that log in screen, the UI by pressing CTRL+F9 you only have a black screen ? |

Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
253
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Posted - 2013.11.12 12:17:00 -
[82] - Quote
Aijle Mijleroff wrote:All good, but I don't like new button for terminate character. New button for terminate character screen looks like button in windows for close program screen , it may confuse people. If only not 10 hour delay for terminate characters YOU CCP will have big problems after patch  draw a skull in place of the cross there
This same thing caught my eye. In UI's the cross is, generally, very much related to closing a window whereas what's done here is something completely different.
Closing a window, terminating a character.
Two distinctly different things, wouldn't you agree? Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Labs Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |

Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
368
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Posted - 2013.11.12 13:46:00 -
[83] - Quote
CCP Fear wrote:Vyktor Abyss wrote:Thats great and all.... but the background looks rather RED....
Can I please have mine in BLUE...?
(It's medical - thanks) Maybe in the next expansion!
I got nothing but time. Thanks. |

Maul555
Nuts and Vindictive Remix Technologies
410
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Posted - 2013.11.12 14:03:00 -
[84] - Quote
Sable Moran wrote:Aijle Mijleroff wrote:All good, but I don't like new button for terminate character. New button for terminate character screen looks like button in windows for close program screen , it may confuse people. If only not 10 hour delay for terminate characters YOU CCP will have big problems after patch  draw a skull in place of the cross there This same thing caught my eye. In UI's the cross is, generally, very much related to closing a window whereas what's done here is something completely different. Closing a window, terminating a character. Two distinctly different things, wouldn't you agree?
This, yeah... I want a minefield of warnings and very clear messages between me and character termination... And even then, I want a way to undo the termination...
BTW, on a slightly related note: If this character is ever deleted, call the cops, because I have probably been kidnapped or killed, or otherwise coerced by force... |

Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
361
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Posted - 2013.11.12 14:16:00 -
[85] - Quote
CCP Fear wrote: It does show both. If there is a completed skill since last log-in then it will display that. If there is no change, i.e. no completed skills, then it will show the total SP.
Thats my point. It shows one, or the other, not "both"....if i've completed a skill since my last log-in, it no longer displays my SP total, it switches to show the number of skills i've completed since my last log-in. It does not "show both". That would require it to show BOTH how many skills have been completed since last log-in AND SP total...at the same time.
That was my point, its one or the other, not both.
But as others have asked, what was inherently so wrong and broken with the old log-in that it required dev time devoted to it, instead of known broken mechanics and other parts of the game that many consider need fixing? http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing -á-á < Unified Inventory is NOT ready... |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2493
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Posted - 2013.11.12 14:25:00 -
[86] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:(...)
Also, about the devblog call about aesthetics, immersion etc.: which goal did you achieve by brutally taking away one of the most beloved start up features, that is a beautiful music and awesome log in animated scene?
THOSE things, and not 3 buttons, defined EvE since the first glance.
So, please re-evaluate your goals on the light of what players need and liked, not just to speed up a couple of clicks.
Well, they implemented their own version of yet another godawful industry-standard launcher, which served some goal.
Albeit the new screen is obviously better than the old one, even the worst of the old login screens beat it to a pulp. And to me, EVE will always be associated to this.
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Ashlar Vellum
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:37:00 -
[87] - Quote
No news feeds on the side.  Please bring them back. |

Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
701
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Posted - 2013.11.12 17:44:00 -
[88] - Quote
Will we get a new login music at each expansion again ? G££ <= Me |

ArmEagle Kusoni
Knights of Nii The 20 Minuters
25
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Posted - 2013.11.12 18:24:00 -
[89] - Quote
Ashlar Vellum wrote:No news feeds on the side.  Please bring them back. But how long do you keep the client open? Also, that's already in the launcher. |

Zappity
Kurved Space
624
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Posted - 2013.11.12 19:15:00 -
[90] - Quote
ArmEagle Kusoni wrote:Ashlar Vellum wrote:No news feeds on the side.  Please bring them back. But how long do you keep the client open? Also, that's already in the launcher. News feeds are very useful. I don't use the launcher because it is awful, slow and needs more clicks. Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec. |
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Reachok
Full Circle Research Corporation
14
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Posted - 2013.11.13 00:17:00 -
[91] - Quote
Will we ever be able to log out to the character selection screen to change characters? As opposed to how we currently have to re-launch the game from the launcher in order to do so?
The bad guys went the other way, seriously.... |

ASadOldGit
School of Applied Knowledge
226
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Posted - 2013.11.13 01:47:00 -
[92] - Quote
I realise that you have branding issues to consider, but perhaps one day you could allow us to choose a particular wallpaper from a past expansion (or make a variety of wallpapers available per expansion)?
A couple of issues though; could be trickier if they're also animated with their own soundtrack, and which expansion name would you display - the current one or the one the wallpaper belonged to?
I like the look of it, though. But, if there's a skill in training, does it just list the skill, or also how much time is left on it? Meh. |

Ashlar Vellum
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
67
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Posted - 2013.11.13 14:14:00 -
[93] - Quote
ArmEagle Kusoni wrote:Ashlar Vellum wrote:No news feeds on the side.  Please bring them back. But how long do you keep the client open? Also, that's already in the launcher. Actually I have no idea for how long, but I do read some news there. You can read almost entire article if it's short and a few paragraphs if it's long and decide for yourself is it interesting or not for you and should you read on, you can't do that in the launcher 'cause it shows only headers. It was a neat feature in my opinion and it would be nice to have it back. |

Lasairiona Raske
Aurea Litai Industries Defiance Enterprises
38
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Posted - 2013.11.13 15:33:00 -
[94] - Quote
Will there be an option to switch characters without logging out completely? Apologies, I don't have time to sift through this thread to see if it's been answered. |

Raketefrau
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Insidious Empire
31
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Posted - 2013.11.13 16:22:00 -
[95] - Quote
CCP karkur wrote:wizardz wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) this! No. We would love to be able to do that, but that is not at all a "character selection screen" issue. Once a connection has been made, both the server code and client code make a lot of assumptions that the characterID will not change, and it's very far from trivial to change that (otherwise we probably would have done that a long time ago)
Booooooooooooo |

Tasha Saisima
State War Academy Caldari State
57
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Posted - 2013.11.13 21:39:00 -
[96] - Quote
Screen needs to show if you have contracts assigned to you. It's a pain just to fully log in, check for contacts, and then log off again if you don't have any.
Also need to switch characters without relaunching the client |

Naes Mlahrend
KINGS OF EDEN Sev3rance
176
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Posted - 2013.11.14 03:10:00 -
[97] - Quote
Posting in a give us a switch character button thread and I agree +10.
On a side note, someone mentioned a character screen. Looks good!  |

Lijhal
Innoruuks Wrath
14
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Posted - 2013.11.14 10:34:00 -
[98] - Quote
honestly, i dont like it! why? 2 words
needlessly simple
The character selection comes without any pewpew effects or fancy crazy moving character models which doesnt really fit into a game like EVE !
CCP Ytterbium As designers, we can tell Caldari have three main points going for them as a race and that is, missile, hybrids and ECM. To be an all-rounded Caldari pilot, one must realize all aspects have to be considered and learned! |

Volster
Backwater Redux Tactical Narcotics Team
8
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Posted - 2013.11.14 14:07:00 -
[99] - Quote
[sheds a single tear for the old character screen]
No doubt a lot of time and hard work's gone into this, and I know at this stage bitching about it is largely futile but for what it's worth, i really don't care for the new character selection screen.
Admittedly my main gripe is mainly stemming from a particularly severe case of bittervet syndrome. Nevertheless the fact that the character screen remained unchanging through all these years gave me solace against the relentless onslaught of ui changes, and i'll be sad to see yet another part of eve's legacy swept into the abyss. |

IceGuerilla
Poseidon's Wingmen Perihelion Alliance
48
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Posted - 2013.11.14 17:40:00 -
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So, we still can't return to character selection by logging out? 8+ years since I started playing and this is still not implemented?
So, overall the work you've done is good. The only thing left now is to throw it into a ******* bin, for all the useful functionality you've added. |
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Windle Poons
Ankh-Morpork City Watch
15
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Posted - 2013.11.14 21:24:00 -
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CCP karkur wrote:wizardz wrote:Makoto Priano wrote:Awesome!
So-- when will we be able to go back to the character selection screen from in-game? ;) this! No. We would love to be able to do that, but that is not at all a "character selection screen" issue. Once a connection has been made, both the server code and client code make a lot of assumptions that the characterID will not change, and it's very far from trivial to change that (otherwise we probably would have done that a long time ago)
Although the odd thing is long ago, you could do this in the client.... |

Mr Fizz
Industrial Waste Removal Services
0
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Posted - 2013.11.16 09:17:00 -
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1) You would garner great kudos with all manner of players if you could exit one of your characters to enter another character from ANYWHERE in the game, at any time, without having to return to the game launcher screen.
2) You would receive unending fan mail, if you allowed multiple account holders to select ANY of their characters held on the SAME E-MAIL ADDRESS from any point in the game.
3) You would be loved endlessly, if a player had paid for three months ahead, could apply sequential training to the paid characters for the 'paid-for' period and not be limited to 24 hours.
And finally: 4) The only real consistent artefact in EvE-Online, is our skill point collection, everything else is transitory, so why, after paying for the training time with one character, if I need to delete that character because the name is wrong or I am finding myself on the wrong training path, why oh why, when I delete the character, don't I get BACK the training skill points I spent on said character, after all, I did PAY for them and they are the only consistent thing in the game. To get the paid-for skill points refunded for onward transfer to another paid for character of my choosing would make eve-online so much better, believe me.
And, when you make changes in the game, that can for a player, invalidate the reasons they trained their characters, and are now redundant, why cannot the player receive a refund for the training skills they trained for, that now have no reason to be there. You did in that past refund Sp when you removed a lot of training books and steps, so I know it is very possible.
I am sorry CCP, but your reasons for NOT returning to the character selection screen from in-game, sounds like armpits, everyone has them and they all stink.
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
474
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Posted - 2013.11.20 20:31:00 -
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I love everything you did with the client screen. Red is my favorite color! (in RL)
Very, very well done.
I think you guys have squashed the memory leaks - time to enable the insta-switch character function! CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Robby Altair
60
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Posted - 2013.11.20 21:43:00 -
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Love the larger portrait of the characters. Like the new non-busy and clean interface. Good job.  It is GIGO application development. |

Szczurek
BSX Industries Inver Brass
0
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Posted - 2013.11.20 22:31:00 -
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Question related to the changes in redeeming: are the expiry dates on certain items gone? if not, how they are displayed ? |

Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices Masters of Flying Objects
665
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Posted - 2013.11.23 21:49:00 -
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Could we have a select all functionality added in the redeem window. Please Thanks. |

Lucy Riraille
Aliastra Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.12.15 10:39:00 -
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Well, I like the new Character selection screen!
I especially like the info top left corner, remaining sub time!!! I suggested this feature in a petition pne of my alts wrote and was heartily surprised when I received a friendly answer that CCP was looking to implement it.
Although I read that some people dislike the new screen because it only displays the current skill and not the end of the skill queue anymore, I disagree with those critics. EVEMon is a tool that everybody I know who plays EVE is using. So, no problem there!
As suggested in this thread, a link to the EVE news channels via ingame browser or neocom or F12 would be nice to have. I usually log in without thoroughly reading the headlines, so I regularly have to go bakc to the launcher to re-read/follow the interesting links...
Overall, nicely done with lots of additional info, benefits and comfort. Well done CCP! |

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
18108
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Posted - 2013.12.15 23:54:00 -
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Just posting my appreciation for those who worked on the Character Selection screen.
+1 for a job very well done.
DMC |
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