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Asestorian	Posted - 2006.02.14 21:53:00 - [1] Is this supposed to happen? It's kinda annoying, especially as my computer starts beeping at me every now and again if I leave EVE opened (instead of minimized where its fine) for a long time, which I am assuming is it complaining that the CPU is under a silly amount of stress. So.. if this isn't supposed to happen, is there any way to reduce the usage? CPU: Athlon 64 3500+ Was fine till RMR... --- --- YARRR!!1111 - Imaran Imaran is a n00b - Wrangler Wrangler suxx0rz... ner ner ner ner - Imaran
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.14 21:57:00 - [2] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 14/02/2006 21:57:24 Originally by: Asestorian Is this supposed to happen? It's kinda annoying, especially as my computer starts beeping at me every now and again if I leave EVE opened (instead of minimized where its fine) for a long time, which I am assuming is it complaining that the CPU is under a silly amount of stress. So.. if this isn't supposed to happen, is there any way to reduce the usage? CPU: Athlon 64 3500+ Was fine till RMR... Doesn't every game in existence put your CPU to 100% usage? If its beeping, that would mean that your cooling isn't good enough to handle your CPU. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is \| Jorauk was, but got hungry and left Everytime you turn down a duel, 1 unit of chicken appears on market -zhuge liang
Asestorian	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:01:00 - [3] Edited by: Asestorian on 14/02/2006 22:01:50 No other game I have played keeps my CPU at 100% usage all the time. I accept that the CPU will reach that sometimes, but all the time? Isn't that just going over the top a little for something like EVE? I'm just sitting in a station half the time ffs Oh yeah and my cooling is probably ok.. I have another fan in my case that I unplugged ages ago because it was too loud when watching a movie and I was too lazy to plug it back in --- --- YARRR!!1111 - Imaran Imaran is a n00b - Wrangler Wrangler suxx0rz... ner ner ner ner - Imaran
Kim Chee	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:05:00 - [4] Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 14/02/2006 21:57:24 Originally by: Asestorian my computer starts beeping at me every now and again if I leave EVE opened (instead of minimized where its fine) Doesn't every game in existence put your CPU to 100% usage? If its beeping, that would mean that your cooling isn't good enough to handle your CPU. No, most games don't use anywhere near 100% of the CPU that's available to them. They all have to wait on real-time events such as mouse movement, network packets, disk I/O, or simply a "reasonable" delay for NPC actions. :) However, if your machine is beeping, and if it only does it with the game opened, I would suggest it's overheating, probably caused by your video card (which will work harder and generate more heat when rendering things). I would check the video card's fan, and also make sure you don't have cables that block the airflow when things are assembled. *Vila Restal: I'm entitled to my opinion. Kerr Avon*: It is your assumption that we are entitled to it as well that is irritating.
Aneksi	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:05:00 - [5] Originally by: Asestorian Edited by: Asestorian on 14/02/2006 22:01:50 No other game I have played keeps my CPU at 100% usage all the time. I accept that the CPU will reach that sometimes, but all the time? Isn't that just going over the top a little for something like EVE? I'm just sitting in a station half the time ffs EVE uses whatever CPU it can find on my system. I can run a single instance and it uses 100% CPU. I can run two, and they use 50% each. Roughly. If I load other stuff alongside they just work around it. I can run single instances of EVE and EQ2 together with no trouble. As far as I know this isn't a problem.
Angry Sheep	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:10:00 - [6] Mine used to do that running at 90 - 95% CPU all the time, disable sound in game and I bet it drops right down!! obviously we could have different problems but give it a go! It's a Dog eat Dog World out there and I'm wearing Milky Bone underwear
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:13:00 - [7] Originally by: Kim Chee Originally by: Dark Shikari Edited by: Dark Shikari on 14/02/2006 21:57:24 Originally by: Asestorian my computer starts beeping at me every now and again if I leave EVE opened (instead of minimized where its fine) Doesn't every game in existence put your CPU to 100% usage? If its beeping, that would mean that your cooling isn't good enough to handle your CPU. No, most games don't use anywhere near 100% of the CPU that's available to them. They all have to wait on real-time events such as mouse movement, network packets, disk I/O, or simply a "reasonable" delay for NPC actions. :) Huh? Even if I don't move my mouse, counterstrike keeps rendering frames! All games that have a continual refresh of the screen without a framerate cap (thus nearly all 3D games) will max out your CPU. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is \| Jorauk was, but got hungry and left Everytime you turn down a duel, 1 unit of chicken appears on market -zhuge liang
Asestorian	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:18:00 - [8] I can run HL2 and other stuff fine. The main problem is EVE making my CPU constantly max out.. I don't know that much about them but I know that thats not really a good thing. The overheating problem could be there, but the last time I had overheating problems (which went away..) the computer locked up, rather than beeping randomly. I will plug my second fan back in tomorrow and see if the beeping stops. --- --- YARRR!!1111 - Imaran Imaran is a n00b - Wrangler Wrangler suxx0rz... ner ner ner ner - Imaran
Dave Day	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:36:00 - [9] Glad it's not just me!! I run a 3.4 gig Pentium 4 with a dirty great big fan in the case. I can run HL2 etc etc and the fan (and presumably the CPU) barely break a sweat. it's the same with everything i run till i fire up EVE. Then the the thing sounds like it's taxiing across a runway for take off. I think I'm gonna need to wedge it with bricks to stop it moving round the room. As soon as I bring up IE, or an excel sheet on top of it though it drops right down. It's 100% flat out ALL of the time in with EVE on top, even if I'm just sat in station. I'm not expecting a long life from the fan, if not the CPU...
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:38:00 - [10] EVE is definitely much more CPU intensive than games like HL2. Its probably because it engages more parts of the CPU at once--in my experience my computer will crash during EVE when it can encode videos and play UT2004 just fine. If all else fails, underclock your CPU. But an A64 3500+ should run pretty cool and run EVE just fine unless your cooling is horrible. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is \| Jorauk was, but got hungry and left Everytime you turn down a duel, 1 unit of chicken appears on market -zhuge liang
Prince Asmodai	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:41:00 - [11] Edited by: Prince Asmodai on 14/02/2006 22:43:12 My personal opinion is that if you comp is using 100% cpu then you may have a bottleneck somewhere.. Like maybe the video card. That processor is not one that AMD lovers like to build their own systems around. So is it a prebuilt comp? If so..find out what videocard you have. And HOPE you dont have some integrated video motherboard. The main reason a cpu is running at full speed cause it trying to make up for video graphics inadequecy(sp) Or maybe even SLow ram. I didnt say NOT ENOUGH RAM....just SLOW ram. IE timings. Check those and you might find a problem and a solution.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:43:00 - [12] Edited by: Dark Shikari on 14/02/2006 22:43:45 Originally by: Prince Asmodai My personal opinion is that if you comp is using 100% cpu then you may have a bottle neck somewhere.. Like maybe the video card. That processor is not one that amd lovers like to build their own systems around. So is it a prebuilt comp. If so..find out what videocard you have. Then main reason a cpu is running at full speed cause it trying to make up for video graphics inadequecy(sp) Or maybe even SLow ram. I didnt say NOT ENOUGH RAM....just SLOW ram. IE timings. Check those and you might find a problem and a solution. What are you talking about? EVE is not very video card dependant at all--unless you have a card slower than an FX5200 your system will be CPU-bottlenecked when playing EVE. That's why having a top end A64 is more important than having fancy SLId videocards when playing EVE. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is \| Jorauk was, but got hungry and left Everytime you turn down a duel, 1 unit of chicken appears on market -zhuge liang
Snake Jankins	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:47:00 - [13] Any application is using as much CPU as it can get, as long as it isn't waiting / doesn't have to wait for something. It's normal. E.g. if you play with v-sync on, then the application doesn't draw the scene repeatedly as fast as it can to the framebuffer, but waits after drawing one picture, until the framebuffer is displayed on the screen and the next picture can be drawn to 2nd buffer. This might lead to a CPU usage to a lower CPU usuage. With v-sync off the application usually draws full-speed without waiting, which might lead to a higher cpu usage. It isn't just about the graphics. If the application has to wait for something, it 'gives' the CPU back to the system and if there isn't another application running that wants the CPU, the system goes idle. So as long as there is something to do, the applications will use as much CPU as they can get. Totally normal and a maching should work without problem under this condition. P.S.: Sorry, if it was too technical. ___________ 'Only ships can be assembled, this is a Frigate.'
JamesTalon	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:49:00 - [14] Originally by: Dave Day Glad it's not just me!! I run a 3.4 gig Pentium 4 with a dirty great big fan in the case. I can run HL2 etc etc and the fan (and presumably the CPU) barely break a sweat. it's the same with everything i run till i fire up EVE. Then the the thing sounds like it's taxiing across a runway for take off. I think I'm gonna need to wedge it with bricks to stop it moving round the room. As soon as I bring up IE, or an excel sheet on top of it though it drops right down. It's 100% flat out ALL of the time in with EVE on top, even if I'm just sat in station. I'm not expecting a long life from the fan, if not the CPU... You think you got problems playing Eve and having your comp prepare for take off? My laptop does that with just about anything Caldari Navy Surplus Me < all mods ~JamesTalon Please don't lie in your sig in the future - Wrangler Is sitting down ok? PS I changed it to worstest :) - Cortes
crom ralphfao	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:50:00 - [15] i have a 3.4 pent4, 2 gigs ram, radeon mobility 9700 i usually run eve in a wide window...whatever the res is called. when i click in the area of the window, my temps are around 63c. if i click outside that window on my desktop, the temps go down to 54c or less. i can still watch the action, the graphics are being rendered, i am flying through space, etc. wtf and why should that happen....could this be related to eve flopping around in my proc when it really doesnt need to? seems a little odd
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2006.02.14 22:57:00 - [16] naa, eve is flakey. I have dual monitors and if I put the window touching both monitors then the whole computer begins to studder. Also anytime I have my browser open and there is some animated icon like a gif or maybe flash, then eve stutters. Its a mess really. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Hoshi	Posted - 2006.02.14 23:08:00 - [17] Here is an interesting thing about eve cpu usage that is very strange. I use a dual core system (amd x2 3800+) and run 2 clients on 2 screens. I have each client assigned to it's own core. I have both running rendering frames as each show on its screen. BUT when I have one client active (as in last clicked in that window) the cpu usage of the core the other client is assigned to goes down to around 30-40% and fps for that window drop around 30%. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jackson S	Posted - 2006.02.14 23:09:00 - [18] Sounds like you need better cooling, especially if your using the stock heatsink that came with your CPU/PC. This worked great on my 3800+ (until I switched to watercooling) and my prescot http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835109118. Combine that with a 30-50 cfm low noise 120mm fan, and you'll have plenty of cooling with very little noise.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.14 23:57:00 - [19] Originally by: Hoshi Here is an interesting thing about eve cpu usage that is very strange. I use a dual core system (amd x2 3800+) and run 2 clients on 2 screens. I have each client assigned to it's own core. I have both running rendering frames as each show on its screen. BUT when I have one client active (as in last clicked in that window) the cpu usage of the core the other client is assigned to goes down to around 30-40% and fps for that window drop around 30%. That's because EVE uses less CPU when not the active window, as do all windows programs IIRC. -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is \| Jorauk was, but got hungry and left Everytime you turn down a duel, 1 unit of chicken appears on market -zhuge liang
Capsicum	Posted - 2006.02.15 00:10:00 - [20] EVE will always use 100% of CPU when it's the active application, even if you use the taskmanager to set it's priority to Low (as I often do). It's the way that the Windows message loop works. forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our new Website! Tulips are great hey?
Aneksi	Posted - 2006.02.15 00:19:00 - [21] Originally by: Dave Day I run a 3.4 gig Pentium 4 with a dirty great big fan in the case. I can run HL2 etc etc and the fan (and presumably the CPU) barely break a sweat. it's the same with everything i run till i fire up EVE. Then the the thing sounds like it's taxiing across a runway for take off. It's not a pre-build Advent, by any chance, is it? I went the pre-built route when my previous home-built machine needed a number of big upgrades doing at once... Thought "it'll be cheaper to buy a whole new machine". Hah. Learned from THAT mistake. Anyway, I also have a 3.4GHz P4 with hyperthreading (pfft - sounds good, at least). Anything more strenuous than Excel and it... well, talking of aeroplanes, did you ever hear a Vulcan bomber?
branodn lee	Posted - 2006.02.15 00:23:00 - [22] well i guess im lucky since my eve dont take but around 30% of my cpu. when i run 2 accounts it only takes like 60-70%.
Skunkaben	Posted - 2006.02.15 00:40:00 - [23] Originally by: Angry Sheep Mine used to do that running at 90 - 95% CPU all the time, disable sound in game and I bet it drops right down!! obviously we could have different problems but give it a go! damn, i always forget ppl still use eve sound DISABLE SOUND PPL its a major major major bug, i dont care what any1 says, turn it off and u will have a much better game.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.15 00:53:00 - [24] Originally by: Skunkaben Originally by: Angry Sheep Mine used to do that running at 90 - 95% CPU all the time, disable sound in game and I bet it drops right down!! obviously we could have different problems but give it a go! damn, i always forget ppl still use eve sound DISABLE SOUND PPL its a major major major bug, i dont care what any1 says, turn it off and u will have a much better game. Its less of a bug with EVE and more of a bug with Creative drivers -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is \| Jorauk was, but got hungry and left Everytime you turn down a duel, 1 unit of chicken appears on market -zhuge liang
Skunkaben	Posted - 2006.02.15 00:56:00 - [25] ill take ur word for it, but i didnt use creative with my last or current puter, and eve is much much better with sound disabled.
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.02.15 00:58:00 - [26] Originally by: Skunkaben ill take ur word for it, but i didnt use creative with my last or current puter, and eve is much much better with sound disabled. I was referring more to the massive bluescreening some people get with EVE and Creative drivers, and the stuttering. I don't know of any problems with EVE sound... especially since I don't use it -- Proud member of the [23]. The Tachikomas are DEAD! Click sig for video. <3 Tachikomas -Eldo But I'm the cutest of them all, and I'm not even a blue robot - Wrangler I have seen you. You cannot deny it anymore - Vanamonde You used to be one of the twenty three, now you are a part of me - Cortes Immy > You All - Imaran Tachikomas > All ~kieron POKEMON -eris Jacques was 'ere Capsicum still is \| Jorauk was, but got hungry and left Everytime you turn down a duel, 1 unit of chicken appears on market -zhuge liang
Nyphur	Posted - 2006.02.15 01:01:00 - [27] Originally by: Dark Shikari Huh? Even if I don't move my mouse, counterstrike keeps rendering frames! All games that have a continual refresh of the screen without a framerate cap (thus nearly all 3D games) will max out your CPU. You're right. most games still run on a main rendering loop. However, most of them have the number of loops per second restricted to the same as your monitor's refresh rate in order to reduce wastage of CPU usage. Eve happens not to make much use of graphics cards but instead uses a lot of CPU. I think eve doesn't restrict the number of loops per second executed because people report frame rates in excess of 100 with monitor refresh rates of 60-75Hz. So either Eve just uses 100% of the CPU it can get a hold of by running on a continual loop or there's an option to enable sync with the refresh rate and most people have it off. Either way, the OP needs to get his CPU cooling sorted out as it overheats at 100%, regardless of whether or not you think eve should run it at 100%. Eve-Tanking.com - For the ultimate tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Eternal Fury	Posted - 2006.02.15 02:47:00 - [28] Edited by: Eternal Fury on 15/02/2006 02:49:19 If there is an issue with Creative drivers and eve, then the two companies need to get together and fix it. I know that the AC97 codec is probobly the most common sound driver, but creative is one of the most prevalent sound cards out there. if the game runs bad with the sound on, you guys need to send an email/petittion to CCP and let them know this. My self, If I can't play a game with sound, I won't play it. Sound tells you a LOT about the game. Hense why it's there. Try watching TV with subtitles on and the sound off. You miss a lot of the show because you spend too much time focusing on the text. As for CPU usage, i've yet to see a game that is the ACTIVE game, meaning it's the currently running program and not running in the background, that idn't use 100% of the CPU, or what ever was left. The program that is currently running, the main one, will use as much of the CPU as it wants. So if it's Eve, Eve will use all it wants. Unless a background app is useing some cycles. It's the nature of computers. To the OP, if your computer is beeping at you, and you notice your fans are running harder when the game is going, check the cooling. you REALLY REALLY should plug that "noisy" fan back in. It was put there for a reason. It'd be like removeing the Rad on your car becuase you hated filling it. They are both put there for a reason. Beeping is usually a sign that something is overheating. Most likely it's your CPU, and the beeping is your motherboard telling you that it's going into the danger zone. - - - - Q: Can I change skills without logging in or Que skills? A: no. to both. End of story. Q: Wheres the Search button on the forums? A: There isn't one. go here. www.eve-search.com

Chribba	Posted - 2006.02.15 08:53:00 - [29] Originally by: Skunkaben Originally by: Angry Sheep Mine used to do that running at 90 - 95% CPU all the time, disable sound in game and I bet it drops right down!! obviously we could have different problems but give it a go! damn, i always forget ppl still use eve sound DISABLE SOUND PPL its a major major major bug, i dont care what any1 says, turn it off and u will have a much better game. I have sound disabled but still uses lots of CPU, not that it bothers me since I can still run 2 clients ok on my 2.4 EVE-Files \| EVE-Search \| Get Email if thread updates

MysticNZ	Posted - 2006.02.15 08:56:00 - [30] Edited by: MysticNZ on 15/02/2006 08:56:11 Every single game i've played uses 100% cpu inless it's from 1995. Games will use ALL the cpu power avaible to them. If your computer is beeping it is overheating, that is because of poor cooling, not because of eve. - You got pwnd by us too :P - Wrangler lol - Imaran

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