Because loosing 500m in implants to a wardec would be stupid?

I am sorry, but even a full set of +4s do not cost 500m.

And then, why do you need more than 2 learning implants which you can change every 24 hours anyway, especially if you are in low/high sec?

If you are saying that they are still too pricey for your taste, then what are you flying? +4 cost is approximately 20mill that is a little bit more than price of a unfitted Crusader, bare Drake cost a little bit less than 2 +4s.

So again, why?

No, I'm arguing that learning implants don't reward anything, they are a choice given to you. Plug in, get SP at a slightly accelerated rate. Why would a person who just started buy +5s? Right, because he is stupid. He doesn't get a single day of training advantage out of those in his first year.

If it so cheap why you discard?

it removes choices

Because the sooner he plugs in the +5s, the sooner that year elapses and he gets the benefit.

Which is the exact same reason people spent their first two months of Eve being bored with their ship choices while they trained learning skills. That didn't pay off for two years.

Which is the exact reason why learning skills were removed. The made new players chose between fun choices now, or boredom now and more fun choices in 2 years.

Learning implants are worse because they keep asking players to make that choice.

Ermmm no. Because he has to train Cyber V, he has the same skills at the end of the year as his pal who only plugged in +4s.

Bored with ship choices? Frigs, dessies and cruisers, the least boring ships in game.

"I hate having to lose something because I don't want to risk."

"CCP, please remove this element of risk so that I no longer have to make a meaningful choice."

Does that about sum it up?

If you think it's a good idea to remove learning implants because they're expensive, don't you think it would also be a good idea if CCP simply removed all implants from the game and gave everyone the equivalent of having 4% hardwirings to every skill? It would eliminate the need to risk expensive implants when you fly in PvP.

Now. You have 100mil ISK. You buy 2 imps +4. 100 - 40 = 60mil of choices.
Will be. You have 100mil ISK. You not buy 2 imps +4. 100mil of choices.

Someone completely missed the point. Other expensive implants only reward you if you actively use them. Expensive training implants reward you for sitting in a station and doing nothing other than station activities (trading and manufacturing for instance). No one in this thread is arguing against all expensive implants. We are pointing out that expensive training implants encourage passivity and are therefore problematic. Not sure why that's hard to understand.

Someone completely missed the point. Other expensive implants only reward you if you actively use them. Expensive training implants reward you for sitting in a station and doing nothing other than station activities (trading and manufacturing for instance). No one in this thread is arguing against all expensive implants. We are pointing out that expensive training implants encourage passivity and are therefore problematic. Not sure why that's hard to understand.

+1

People say "risk/reward" but there really is no interesting reward here. It's a useless game mechanic.

So, are you saying the only thing that stops people from PVP are those 40mills, really?

btw. what about removing clone cost entirely?

And just because people are too lazy or unwilling to switch clones, these implant effects have to go away?

Given CCP have discussed the possibility of removing clone cost, your argument kinda shoots itself in the foot. It's an obvious thing to remove learning implants that make risk averse behaviour of doing nothing more rewarding than risky behaviour.
All the other implants require you to take risks to get their advantage. There are enough 1-5 slot implants already that you wouldn't be left with empty slots and would actually see significantly more LG sets being used I'm sure. And lost at the same time.

...I'd be PVPing with LG slaves most of the time...

At first, I came here to flame at you. But then I read you wall of text, and it totally makes sense.
Especially since I'm a wormholer (CCP dun wanna give us jumpclones hurdur).

-1. Idiotic idea.

I am joining this conversation late. However I am a proponent of not only doing away with learning implants, but attributes and remaps also. This would mean that every character would train at 2700SP/hr from birth which would be deposited in to a SP pool that is capped at some finite number (around 1-3 mil SP ). To gain skills you would apply SP directly from the pool. This would also mean no more training queues.

There are several very nice positives to this situations:
1. No more remaps. No more attributes. Which means you can train what you want, when you want to train it, without having to worry about it not being optimal.
2. This system is very easy to understand. There is really no way for a noob to screw it up. Unlike trying to get them to understand training plans, certain skills need certain remaps, to competently fly a ship you need skills from a lot of different attributes, how often they get remaps, etc. Keeps it simple.
3. Those of us that are in the military and deploy, go on business trips or vacations, computer crashed, or for some other reason Eve isn't really available don't have to worry about switching skills as there is no more training queue and the SP goes in to a pool.
4. If the server is DDoSed you don't have a bunch of idiots trying to claim that CCP owes them SP as they keep training.
5. No more noobs fearful of losing their +3 learning implants in nullsec PvP. I know it seems petty, but it makes a difference.
6. Attributes do add choices and consequences to Eve. There is no denying that. However, those are not meaningful choices. A meaningful choices matters a great deal in your enjoyment in the game. The choice to fit a scram or a point on your frigate is meaningful. With one choice you get a kill. With the other you die. The choice to train optimally or not is, as our wonderful OP posted, benefiting those who don't really play Eve instead of those that do. The choice to enjoy the game or stay docked up safe so you can train faster should never have been a choice presented to the player. Remove it and I assure you Eve will be better for it.

I dig this +1

Dont touch remaps. Eve is about planning.

Holy crap yeah, I was going to do the same... In general I play the game without implants to avoid precisely what the OP is talking about. His reasoning makes some very surprising sense.