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wargallow	Posted - 2006.05.19 16:59:00 - [31] hi all i just got my blackbird a few days ago and i am trying to fit it out what i have now actually is high: 3 x heavies 1 x 200mm rail mids: 1 ladar jammer 1 radar jammer 1 multspec jammer 1 large shield extender 1 small shield extender 1 Explosive hardener lows: PDUs after reading the post on this thread, can someone tell me what the racial jammers are? is it that say the amarr use ladar so a ladar is a racial? and say caldari use grav so grav jammers for them? planning to go in a gang with 1 ferrox and i moa for now. and maybe a frig allow for company. thanks
Xianthar	Posted - 2006.05.25 04:35:00 - [32] Originally by: Cade Morrigan Originally by: Aneeda I also dont use Multi's on my blackbird. I run with 3 caldari and 1 minmatar jammer. I carry others with me so I can dock and re-fit if needed. I fit an MWD on mine because if you come up against smaller or faster ships they will get in under your minimum jammer range. You need to be able to outmaneuver and maintain your distance. minimum jammer range will screw you every time! there, in fact is a minimum jammer range, weather its intentional or a bug under a certain range you will not be able to jam a target(1500m - 2000m) it is testable and repeatable so feel free to give it a try.... -xian
Ifyouknew	Posted - 2006.05.25 11:52:00 - [33] Recently got a Blackbird for a really good deal. Tryin to mod it but I notice it only has 2 low slots. Not sure what the best low and high mods for this ship. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Im mainly looking to use it as support for pvp gangs.
Ralara	Posted - 2006.05.27 03:59:00 - [34] Edited by: Ralara on 27/05/2006 04:02:50 Originally by: Ifyouknew Recently got a Blackbird for a really good deal. Tryin to mod it but I notice it only has 2 low slots. Not sure what the best low and high mods for this ship. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Im mainly looking to use it as support for pvp gangs. I use a Damage Control I and a Local Hull Conversion Nanofiber Structure I Hi 3x Advanced Limos Heavy Missile Launcher 1x Heavy NOS Med 1x invulnerability field 1x anointed I EM ward reinforcement field (em shield hardner) 2x Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction (large shield ext) 1x Medium Shield Extender 1x Langour Drive (stasis web) Lo: 1x Damage Control I 1x Local Hull Conversion Naofiber Structure 1 It has 5827 shield HP and with the hardners and DC turned on, it can tank most rats in 0.0 (but then this character is only 3 weeks old hehe). Siggy Please read the forum rules relating to Signature size. -Ductoris
Waenn Ironstaff	Posted - 2006.05.27 04:06:00 - [35] Originally by: Ralara Edited by: Ralara on 27/05/2006 04:02:50 Originally by: Ifyouknew Recently got a Blackbird for a really good deal. Tryin to mod it but I notice it only has 2 low slots. Not sure what the best low and high mods for this ship. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Im mainly looking to use it as support for pvp gangs. I use a Damage Control I and a Local Hull Conversion Nanofiber Structure I Hi 3x Advanced Limos Heavy Missile Launcher 1x Heavy NOS Med 1x invulnerability field 1x anointed I EM ward reinforcement field (em shield hardner) 2x Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction (large shield ext) 1x Medium Shield Extender 1x Langour Drive (stasis web) Lo: 1x Damage Control I 1x Local Hull Conversion Naofiber Structure 1 It has 5827 shield HP and with the hardners and DC turned on, it can tank most rats in 0.0 (but then this character is only 3 weeks old hehe). That has to be the worst setup I have ever seen for a damn Blackbird... It's so horrible I'm actually tring to look for irony to perceive it as a joke...
Ralara	Posted - 2006.05.27 05:06:00 - [36] Well I'm sorry my setup isn't to your liking; it works fine for me. Siggy Please read the forum rules relating to Signature size. -Ductoris
Ryysa	Posted - 2006.05.27 08:20:00 - [37] Originally by: Ralara 1x Heavy NOS WTB: blackbird with 2500+ grid.... All about target jamming
Waenn Ironstaff	Posted - 2006.05.27 17:56:00 - [38] Originally by: Ralara Well I'm sorry my setup isn't to your liking; it works fine for me. It's just the fact I can use a a Caracal for better effectiveness and less cost compared to a BB. Plus if you get jumped in a belt, you're doomed no matter what since you have no ECM jammers to fend off the enemy.
Reave Ven'har	Posted - 2006.06.08 22:22:00 - [39] my setup against Guritas in 0.3 and 0.2 3 heavy missiel launcher 1 200 mm rail 3 racial jammer 1 med cap battery 1 large shild extender 1 hardener 2 pdu
Xenia Souljah	Posted - 2006.06.09 16:53:00 - [40] Originally by: Ralara Edited by: Ralara on 27/05/2006 04:02:50 I use a Damage Control I and a Local Hull Conversion Nanofiber Structure I Hi 3x Advanced Limos Heavy Missile Launcher 1x Heavy NOS Med 1x invulnerability field 1x anointed I EM ward reinforcement field (em shield hardner) 2x Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction (large shield ext) 1x Medium Shield Extender 1x Langour Drive (stasis web) Lo: 1x Damage Control I 1x Local Hull Conversion Naofiber Structure 1 It has 5827 shield HP and with the hardners and DC turned on, it can tank most rats in 0.0 (but then this character is only 3 weeks old hehe). Go buy a Caracal or a Moa if you want a setup like that. BB's are designed to be used for EW/Jamming.
Anders Kraneled Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.28 19:56:00 - [41] I've been playing around with QuickFit today, and I came up with this for some solo'ing. Highs: 3 x Heavy missile launcher I `- Widowmaker heavy missiles Mediums: 1 x Spatial destabiliser I 1 x Phase inverter I 1 x Ion field projector I 1 x White noise generator I 1 x Warp disruptor I 1 x Stasis webifier I Lows: 2 x Ballistic control system I Any comments?
Cory Amash Skunk Works Corp.	Posted - 2006.08.02 12:22:00 - [42] Originally by: Anders Kraneled I've been playing around with QuickFit today, and I came up with this for some solo'ing. Highs: 3 x Heavy missile launcher I `- Widowmaker heavy missiles Mediums: 1 x Spatial destabiliser I 1 x Phase inverter I 1 x Ion field projector I 1 x White noise generator I 1 x Warp disruptor I 1 x Stasis webifier I Lows: 2 x Ballistic control system I Any comments? Well even with my limited experince with ecms I my self would go for the multi specs unless you know what shiptypes you will be up against.
T Nex	Posted - 2006.08.06 11:31:00 - [43] What do you think about this fit??? Hi: 3x hvy missiles, med nosferatu Med: 1x sensor booster, 5x ECM (2x magneto,2x gravi,1x multi) Low: Medium Armor Repairer, 400mm Plates
velmistr Ecco Caldari Rytiri Lva	Posted - 2006.09.05 12:02:00 - [44] Originally by: Ginaz For Gang: High: Med remote Repper, 3x small remote repper Mid: 4x multis, Sensor booster, cap battery Lows: cpr, 800mm no tech2 no expensive named, Blackbirds are victims I like it. Are there any skill that helps with range of remote repairers or it's just for Osprey and Basilisk (I prefer caldarian ships). May be I will try 1 more multispec instead of cap battery.
CaptainMabufo	Posted - 2006.09.23 19:00:00 - [45] Could someone advise me on a BB setup that would work against belt rats in 0.3/0.2? Preferably involving multis, on account of the player pirates I run into all the time.
Taram Caldar Caldari Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.10.17 11:24:00 - [46] Originally by: CaptainMabufo Could someone advise me on a BB setup that would work against belt rats in 0.3/0.2? Preferably involving multis, on account of the player pirates I run into all the time. Highs: 3x Assault Launcher (named if you prefer) 1x Med NOS (or a rail) Mids: 1x Sensor Booster 1x Cap Battery 4x Multispec (named if you feel wealthy) Lows: 1x CPR 1x PDU (gives extra cap, extra shield, extra power and a little extra shield regen) Enjoy!
velmistr Ecco Caldari Rytiri Lva	Posted - 2006.10.17 11:52:00 - [47] Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 17/10/2006 11:33:32 Mids: 1x Sensor Booster 1x Small Armor Repper 4x Multispec (named if you feel wealthy) Enjoy! Well, I usually put armor repairer in low slot. IMHO BB is not a good ship for ratting. Take caracal - you will deal with rats much faster. BB is EW ship and is suitable for PvP/support ship. It is neither a damage dealer nor tank.
Leonardo Sabrioski Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.28 15:39:00 - [48] Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 17/10/2006 11:33:32 Originally by: CaptainMabufo Could someone advise me on a BB setup that would work against belt rats in 0.3/0.2? Preferably involving multis, on account of the player pirates I run into all the time. Highs: 3x Assault Launcher (named if you prefer) 1x 720mm Howitzer (yes, a projectile weapon ;) - No Cap Drain - Named if you prefer) Mids: 1x Sensor Booster 1x Small Armor Repper 4x Multispec (named if you feel wealthy) Lows: 1x CPR 1x PDU (gives extra cap, extra shield, extra power, extra cap recharge and a little extra shield regen) Enjoy! Some things conflicting with each other... 1x small armor repairer is a low slot... My Set up for a "recon" blackbird Hi: 3x Heavy Launchers (or Assault launchers) 1x Cloaking device Med: 1x Sensor Booster 3x Multispectral ECM 1x 7500 scram 1x MWD Low: 2x Med Reps A blackbird must first take into account that it is NOT a tanking ship. It is NOT a ratting ship, and is based on a "sub-recon" ship. Making the most of your med slots will utilize your potential on the battlefield. Some people might disagree with me on the cloaking device saying that the blackbird is too clumsy and awkward, but it helps for those certain times... Feel free to critique, just don't be too mean
Aurelius Antoninus	Posted - 2006.11.20 21:21:00 - [49] Edited by: Aurelius Antoninus on 20/11/2006 21:23:03 Low sec pirating support. 3x heavy launchers, 1x Med. Smartbomb 3x Jammers (muti or racial if you know what you're targeting) 2x Sensor Damps 1x Sensor Booster 2x Cap Power Relay 100km + locking range, excellent support boat. Can run both damps indefinitely. Set jammers on manual so you dont waste cap and you can keep everyone on the battlefield all effed up
Alowishus Shadow Company Alektorophobia	Posted - 2006.11.20 21:40:00 - [50] Blackbird does horrible horrible horrible DPS. Getting around 41DPS with assults/2x BCU/Structure and 63DPS with heavies/2x BCU/Structure. If you're not using EW on it then it's not a very usefull ship at all. Maybe back in the dual MWD days... The moderators here are excellent at policing signatures.
Taram Caldar Caldari Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.11.20 21:46:00 - [51] Originally by: Aurelius Antoninus Edited by: Aurelius Antoninus on 20/11/2006 21:23:03 Low sec pirating support. 3x heavy launchers, 1x Med. Smartbomb 3x Jammers (muti or racial if you know what you're targeting) 2x Sensor Damps 1x Sensor Booster 2x Cap Power Relay 100km + locking range, excellent support boat. Can run both damps indefinitely. Set jammers on manual so you dont waste cap and you can keep everyone on the battlefield all effed up Nice... just wish the BB got a bonus to damp range.
Taram Caldar Caldari Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.11.20 21:47:00 - [52] Originally by: Leonardo Sabrioski Originally by: Taram Caldar Edited by: Taram Caldar on 17/10/2006 11:33:32 Originally by: CaptainMabufo Could someone advise me on a BB setup that would work against belt rats in 0.3/0.2? Preferably involving multis, on account of the player pirates I run into all the time. Highs: 3x Assault Launcher (named if you prefer) 1x 720mm Howitzer (yes, a projectile weapon ;) - No Cap Drain - Named if you prefer) Mids: 1x Sensor Booster 1x Small Armor Repper 4x Multispec (named if you feel wealthy) Lows: 1x CPR 1x PDU (gives extra cap, extra shield, extra power, extra cap recharge and a little extra shield regen) Enjoy! Some things conflicting with each other... 1x small armor repairer is a low slot... My Set up for a "recon" blackbird Hi: 3x Heavy Launchers (or Assault launchers) 1x Cloaking device Med: 1x Sensor Booster 3x Multispectral ECM 1x 7500 scram 1x MWD Low: 2x Med Reps A blackbird must first take into account that it is NOT a tanking ship. It is NOT a ratting ship, and is based on a "sub-recon" ship. Making the most of your med slots will utilize your potential on the battlefield. Some people might disagree with me on the cloaking device saying that the blackbird is too clumsy and awkward, but it helps for those certain times... Feel free to critique, just don't be too mean OOPS you are correct I dunno what I was thinking on the repper...
Majin82 Caldari g guild	Posted - 2006.11.21 22:27:00 - [53] This is the set up I am currently using. I swap out the ECM depending on the Targets, so I am always using 4 racial. This is obviously an expensive set up, but I am always flying with 2 or 3 Crows. Blackbird Medium Diminishing Power System Drain I 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher 'Arbalest' Heavy Missile Launcher BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM BZ-5 Neutralizing Spatial Destabilizer ECM Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I (150 charges) Medium Shield Booster II Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II 1426 shield, 5.32/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/20/40/60 970 armor, E/T/K/Ex=60/44/25/10 1077.6937500000001 cap, +12.92/s, -28.416/s 228.0 m/s ------------------------------------- Proud member of G Guild!
Riddick06	Posted - 2006.11.22 00:05:00 - [54] highs: stuff Meds: cap booster/multispecs/sensor booster lows: SAR/1600mm plate Fly another ship if you want to solo.
Fluffernator	Posted - 2006.11.22 08:24:00 - [55] Here is my fit: Lows: 2 RCU Mids: Active sensor backup array, 4 jammers,MEdium Shield Extender Smart bomb: 3 assault launchers This setup is designed to lower the blackbirds susceptability to drones. IF the BB comes across a cruiser wiht a 25m3 drone bay the BB can just smartbomb all 5 drones. 2-3 pulses and most light drones will be dead. This means BB needs to be able to tank the drones for about 15 seconds depending on your smart bomb skill. Once the drones are gone you toggle your jammers keeping your target jammed while your missles slowly kill your foe. A ship with any decent tank would be able to tank this for a very long period of time so you must be able to sustain the jammers. This stratedgy is intentded for cruisers or frigats. Let me know what you guys think
Gyro DuAquin1 Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.22 11:11:00 - [56] Originally by: Fluffernator Here is my fit: Lows: 2 RCU Mids: Active sensor backup array, 4 jammers,MEdium Shield Extender Smart bomb: 3 assault launchers This setup is designed to lower the blackbirds susceptability to drones. IF the BB comes across a cruiser wiht a 25m3 drone bay the BB can just smartbomb all 5 drones. 2-3 pulses and most light drones will be dead. This means BB needs to be able to tank the drones for about 15 seconds depending on your smart bomb skill. Once the drones are gone you toggle your jammers keeping your target jammed while your missles slowly kill your foe. A ship with any decent tank would be able to tank this for a very long period of time so you must be able to sustain the jammers. This stratedgy is intentded for cruisers or frigats. Let me know what you guys think so on the one side we got a medium smart bomb, which does round about a 120 damage at a target with no resitances with a rat of fire of 10 seconds @ 75 cap usage. on the other side we got probally a medium drone with round about a 120 shield and 240 armor. With some skills should be no big deal to have those stats at a 120% so id say lets make it 5 acivations. Ur ship is a blackbird with ~1000 cap. so u have someone jameed, which is using cap, ur using a smart bomb, which is hittin drones. Id guess 30 secs before ur out of cap, easier is to shot drones with ur assault missle launchers, should deal with those drones better then a smart bomb. Cause with drones on u , and only a medium extender u dont have hp nor u have resitances, so u need to deal with those as fast as possible.
Fluffernator	Posted - 2006.11.22 19:40:00 - [57] Edited by: Fluffernator on 22/11/2006 19:48:04 Well, Like I said, this strategy is for cruisers and frigats. well.. your right, if I get 5 mediums on me im in big trouble. but for 5 light drones, I think the smart bomb will take them out the quickest in all honesty. Give it 2 maybe 3 pulses and all 5 drones are gone, and I believe the BB will be able to tank 5 drones for long enough to deliver two pulses. I've tried fitting those launchers designed to take out drones/frigats and the launchers didnt kill the drones nearly fast enough. This isnt the master setup but works effectively against similar cruisers/frigats. If I come across mutliple ships, I will most likely die. But keep in mind the BB is a 3 mil cruiser so you can't expect too much out of it. If you run into something that deploys 5 light drones on you, get ready to run.
Aurelius Antoninus	Posted - 2006.11.26 17:21:00 - [58] Originally by: Taram Caldar Nice... just wish the BB got a bonus to damp range. Yea, but the range bonus on the jammers is nice. Something like an 89km optimal on one of the racials i use. I also fly a celestis; the bonus it gets to damp effectiveness is sexy. Plus it's got a drone bay.
Cletus Graeme Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels	Posted - 2006.11.27 02:08:00 - [59] hi - 3 assaults + 1 med smartbomb mid - 4 ecm, sensor booster, med cap battery/booster slot - med armor rep, gravimetric backup array Explanation ----------- Your role is to jam from afar so the hi slots are used for frigate/inty/drone defence as these can cause problems if they get close to you. If your gang is so small that you also need to deal damage you can fit heavies instead but only if you expect to engage below 60km as you won't have any ship range bonus for your missiles. mids - As many jammers as you can fit with a cap battery/booster to provide you with enough cap to run them. A mix of racials and multispecs is versatile - e.g 1 caldari, 1 gallente, 2 multispecs. Add a sensor booster for increased targetting range and quicker lock times to prevent being jammed by someone else first. lows - armor repairer will buy you time to warp away if you are targetted and backup array will help prevent you being jammed yourself - a jammed BB is worse than useless...
FFGR Maza Nostra Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.30 05:41:00 - [60] Originally by: Groke Edited by: Groke on 30/11/2006 05:40:02 Help me with BB fiting after Kali-1 High : stuff Medium : 6x dampeners Low : 1600mm plate and small armor repairer _______ Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

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