She meant that you can fit multiple warp scramblers on the cane to catch stabbed ships.

Points not stabs, Tippy-top

But I like the concept.

Good point. Then it's more like a newbie-frigate, period. Only this time in speed and hitpoints.

What?

Im genuinely puzzled by what you said Tippia

Usually your logic is flawless but I dont understand that

Oh fine! Keep explaining so it makes me wrong. Meanie.

I meant that if you fill the mids on a Cane with points (as in modules, not warp scrambling points), you'd be left with no propulsion and very little in the way of tank, unless you compromised your ability to shred stuff, which would go against the initial condition.

Meanie.

So you are saying THEY need skill to get away from you, but YOU shouldn't need skill to stop them?

It's got nothing to do with "e-honour".
I'm just discomforted by people who fill all their lowslots with WCS modules then go into my hunting grounds. It's annoying is all.

I wish CCP would give some kind of incentive for people to stop being so risk-averse, and actually fight back.

But I might be showing a gap in my knowledge here, but why would you shield tank a Cane?

Its armour tank is superlative even with two Gyros

I'll admit that I haven't played with it since the BC updates so the meta around its fitting may have changed, butGǪ

GǪfor the same reason as always: because you can. Gyros, TEs and a suitcase in the lows, propulsion, point and shield in the mids, which saves you both speed an a bunch of PG that you could use for more fun things.

OP character is aptly named, 'lazy' indeed.

its FW faction warfare not....

But... you can fit so much more armour than shield.....

And so many more points.....

Im not disagreeing, but when it comes to staying alive, I prefer "because I have more tank" than "just because lol"

Meh. It only looks like about 5% more (but that's before sig bloom) and a lot of compromises as far as positioning goes.

Ok well Im not sure how thats worked out, and I have no idea what positioning is, I just figure more slots = better

But that's just comparing directly. Every battle has its own set of circumstances.

Need to GTFO of the game tbh they just sucks :)

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But thats down to gun calibre though surely rather than a deficency in the tank?

Not picking armor lets you fit the larger guns, and lets you use tracking enhnacers, and lets you choose nanofibers for more maneuverability.

It's not so much a deficiency as it is a trade-off. Armor tanked would be harder to kill and have more tackle and ewar options like web(s), ECCM, tracking disruptors or whatever.

If two canes had to warp in at 0 and duke it out, I'd put money on a good armor cane fit. Allowing them to engage from anything over 15km starting distance and I'd lean towards the shield cane.

Actually, its not really that hard to either as it turns out


Cool time for a redesign

But... you can fit so much more armour than shield.....

And so many more points.....

Im not disagreeing, but when it comes to staying alive, I prefer "because I have more tank" than "just because lol"

Shield Canes were the go-to roaming BC for a long, long time. Even though its use in that role has been pretty well trounced by the Talos (Heelooo, Null kiting), I still think "Shield BC" when I hear "Cane."

More Damage, More Speed, Longer Range, why would you ever plate the pre-nerf Cane? Since the nerf, I'm not sure I've even flown one, so I don't know the new meta.

FW would be better without them.

solo pvp would be better with out them.

1v1 somone take them dow win the fight. out dps out fly out play them. and they warp off in low armour or hull becasue of this little module.

its bolllox I can see a need for them on things like haulers and cloaky haulers but its nuts to have them on pvp ships

Need to GTFO of the game tbh they just sucks :)

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FW would be better without them.

solo pvp would be better with out them.

1v1 somone take them dow win the fight. out dps out fly out play them. and they warp off in low armour or hull becasue of this little module.

its bolllox I can see a need for them on things like haulers and cloaky haulers but its nuts to have them on pvp ships

FW would be better without them.

solo pvp would be better with out them.

1v1 somone take them dow win the fight. out dps out fly out play them. and they warp off in low armour or hull becasue of this little module.

its bolllox I can see a need for them on things like haulers and cloaky haulers but its nuts to have them on pvp ships