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Avon
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:42:00 -
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 Originally by: Raid
The whole idea in brining BOB and the waggon in was so SA would stop attacking FIX
Interesting view ... if only it hadn't been SA that brought BoB in to the conflict ... so I guess you need to rethink.
You are forgetting that BoB negotiated an end to the FIX / SA conflict with Trigger, only for that peace to be rejected by Orc A and his meglomanic cronies.
Trigger could clearly see SA's limitations, and acted as any good leader would - unfortunately those around him believed their own propoganda a little more than was healthy.
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Raid on 23/02/2006 15:48:10
Originally by: ponieus
Considering any spie would of known excatly what we were doign and would of made any ALL attemps of stoping us from forming probally the biggest capitol ship fleet in game..
Who needs a spy when you're willing to tell everyone what your doing 
Edit: just to add.. Stain is al NPC stations... so unless your planning a parade i dont think SA is worried about a fleet of carriers and dreads.
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
Originally by: ponieus
Considering any spie would of known excatly what we were doign and would of made any ALL attemps of stoping us from forming probally the biggest capitol ship fleet in game..
Who needs a spy when you're willing to tell everyone what your doing
SirMolle posted this on the forums after we left the North.
I guess you must have missed that announcement.
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
Originally by: ponieus
Considering any spie would of known excatly what we were doign and would of made any ALL attemps of stoping us from forming probally the biggest capitol ship fleet in game..
Who needs a spy when you're willing to tell everyone what your doing
You can't stop it once its done.
The moment is gone, the opportunity lost.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
Raid
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:51:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher
SirMolle posted this on the forums after we left the North.
I guess you must have missed that announcement.
dbp
Indeed i only have forum ***** up to lvl 4. But as i said in my Edit... SA wouldnt really care about a capital ships fleet when they live in NPC stations. Unless your planning a parade with santa claus at the end SA wouldnt really care.
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 23/02/2006 15:56:54
Originally by: Raid
Originally by: DB Preacher
SirMolle posted this on the forums after we left the North.
I guess you must have missed that announcement.
dbp
Indeed i only have forum ***** up to lvl 4. But as i said in my Edit... SA wouldnt really care about a capital ships fleet when they live in NPC stations. Unless your planning a parade with santa claus at the end SA wouldnt really care.
OMG!
You mean there aren't other alliances out there we can use these ships against?
You know, real alliances with territory and stuff?
The kind that are actually worth taking the time out to fight.
Jeez.
Okay boys, recycle the ships. SA are the only alliance in the game, and they don't want to get involved with high end content.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2006.02.23 15:59:00 -
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Edited by: FolkoDemon on 23/02/2006 15:59:23
Originally by: TWD
Edited by: TWD on 23/02/2006 14:06:50
Originally by: Orc A
Struggle to see us waging war on anyone?
Because of the Vast BoB fleets in our area?
No, wait...
we're just bored cuz everyone are running and we aren't dead (yet again) as promised after 5 days.
SA has no fleet.
Only time SA remotely had a decent sized fleet was when they visited NOL and got promptly spanked by us.
SA is no big player, and is removed from the map by losing their conquerable stations.
Only thing you have left is small roaming gangs and are now not able to enter the high end gaming experience, good game.
In this way you are already beaten.
HAHAHAHA!!! U mean that NOL fleet that entered Nol, bacause we tricked your bubbled gate guards to move away, same fleet that consisted of 4-5 t1 cruisers and few interceptors? :P Or was there other fleet I missed? ;)
Also, Somehow I remember moving around Stain and killing BoB, especially smaller BoB gangs, that were not part of main enemy fleet in our land at that time, but hey - why we should go after your blob when we can be anihilating your gangs? Face it, we'll fight you at our terms, you don't like it? Feel free to selfdestruct.
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Kaldani Malankori
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:05:00 -
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Cannonfodder \o/
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
OMG!
You mean there aren't other alliances out there we can use these ships against?
You know, real alliances with territory and stuff?
The kind that are actually worth taking the time out to fight.
Jeez.
Okay boys, recycle the ships. SA are the only alliance in the game, and they don't want to get involved with high end content.
I refer you to your alliance mates comments...
Originally by: ponieus
Considering any spie would of known excatly what we were doign and would of made any ALL attemps of stoping us from forming probally the biggest capitol ship fleet in game..
Thats what im posting in reply too. I'm not mentioning any other alliances out there. OF COURSE they can be used against anyone. However im replying to thsi particular post refering to SA stoping BOB from forming the largest capital ships fleet.... why would they care?
As for the whole SA doesnt hold real territory... Thats a matter of opinion. You obviously like the industrial side as well as the PVP side. Some people do not and therefore have no reason to hold conquerable stations.
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and they don't want to get involved with high end content.
high end content? You mean everyone NEEDS to fly capital ships? High end content INCLUDES all the new tech2 toys.. capital ships are only used for people who wish to setup or take down POS's or take conquerable stations... and like i said before, everyone plays the game differently. So, please enjoy your "high end" experience.
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Avon
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:13:00 -
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Raid, if all the things you say are true (ie, an alliance in 0.0 with nothing to call its own) is still a valid alliance, how do you propose to destroy FIX?
At best all you could do is reduce them to the same level as you, and if you call that defeated, what are SA now?
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
TWD
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: FolkoDemon
HAHAHAHA!!! U mean that NOL fleet that entered Nol, bacause we tricked your bubbled gate guards to move away, same fleet that consisted of 4-5 t1 cruisers and few interceptors? :P Or was there other fleet I missed? ;)
Nope. Look it up at our killboard on 31 Januari.
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thebold
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:16:00 -
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Gal: Me and Mauxir are on MSN having a laugh ;) we donÆt care about our image on the forum if it makes us look like idiots great when we finally get a fight in game lets hope you think were still idiots then.
And the infestation of these enemy alliances of Stain you speak off? I am confused apart from the bob fleet of a hac next to T-NNJZ Stain is only full of friends like VC and FOS corps.
O and X13 have vanished thereÆs like 3 npc alts that live in T-NNJZ I am unsure why they even got to claim that part of space?
However SE lives here still. It is easy to say to SA haha your weak you havenÆt killed them. The truth is in EVE you can not kill someone that does not want to die. SE has discovered this and they remain strong every day. It will be the same thing with you and us on a larger level.
And when you finally invade you will end up eventually fighting SE as well and then you will quickly understand they don't run when the going gets tough... They too will adapt there tactics to your need's as well as continue to kill us.
I gave Shifu a reason to keep doing what he does every day that makes his game fun and I am happy for him XB poded me not long ago :D its all enjoyment thats what eve is about
And picking FIX over us was basically saying hey were big BOB biggest meaning mofos in eve donÆt step on our shoes, But we cba to camp A2-V2 because were to good for that and thatÆs a waist of our time. What should we do today: æI know lets kill a alliance.Æ > EVE-Online Forums. I declare X Alliance Dead.
Done! Huzzah WE WON A WAR!
O TWD Fleet fights win or loose prove nothing. Boo Hoo Cry me a river. Maybe were not worth your time mate why donÆt you go declare on another alliance that would offer you amazing fleet fights of epic proportions instead of another thorn in your side alliance. Because we have no fleet we are far from dead.
All forum crap is sticks and stones.
Orc is still a diplomat because he has the enthusiasm allot of us lack to do the role, thats why we love our Orcy Poo :)
PS Were still waiting to be wiped out. Would you please get out of your dammed complex in NOL and invade already geeze were bored with nothing to shoot.
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Simply put, your not worth the effort
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FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: FolkoDemon on 23/02/2006 16:19:25
re Avon:
SA are pvp alliance, that lives in Stain and defends it, but has no or little intrest in holding conquerable stations. We do pvp for fun, and kill sansha in meantime, since mining is not an option in Stain as well.
We will kill fix using our pvp gangs, we'll take their stations with our capital ships. Yarrr!
I also suggest you look up the movie 'Where have all good Fixians gone' or similar title, amazing footage from battles for FAT, that ended with us (and Huzzah, yay!) taking station. Worth downloading for music too. Should be max on 5th page of proper forum.
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Raid, if all the things you say are true (ie, an alliance in 0.0 with nothing to call its own) is still a valid alliance, how do you propose to destroy FIX?
At best all you could do is reduce them to the same level as you, and if you call that defeated, what are SA now?
First im not SA 
Second they have conquerable stations that can be taken away. Diference is SA can live and operate as normal within Stain and have no conquerable assets in space (or at least none that can be seen on the map). Fix on the other had, if reduced to a few corps cannot maintain their conquerable stations from any dedicated enemy. Thats the difference...thats why destroying SA would be so hard vs distroying FIX. SA have nothing to lose but ships and money.. Fix has their stations, their POS's and their region.
AFAIK the onyl real benefits in being in a none NPC region are.
1. Less fuel consumption for POS's.
2. Mothership/Titan production
2. High end minerals in belts.
I must be missing some other benefits here.. what else is there?
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: FolkoDemon
AHAHAHA!!! U mean that NOL fleet that entered Nol, bacause we tricked your bubbled gate guards to move away, same fleet that consisted of 4-5 t1 cruisers and few interceptors? :P Or was there other fleet I missed? ;)
No, he means another fleet - are you referring to the fleet that we let in to NOL, trapped it there and forced it to log off, that consisted of about 15 pilots total?
Originally by: Thomas Jefferson
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Calderio
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:25:00 -
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does anyone have a good setup for my zealot against sansha rats?
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FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: FolkoDemon
AHAHAHA!!! U mean that NOL fleet that entered Nol, bacause we tricked your bubbled gate guards to move away, same fleet that consisted of 4-5 t1 cruisers and few interceptors? :P Or was there other fleet I missed? ;)
No, he means another fleet - are you referring to the fleet that we let in to NOL, trapped it there and forced it to log off, that consisted of about 15 pilots total?
Yup, i'm referring to fleet that we moved to NOL after tricking your gate guards, after killing some of yours allies ships on the way. 
(What's sense in plan, to let enemy gang into NOL, when u have gate bubbled with 3 med bubbles and you can easly wipe it off when it's stuck in bubble anyway?)
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KirikaPhoenix
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: FolkoDemon
Edited by: FolkoDemon on 23/02/2006 16:19:25
I also suggest you look up the movie 'Where have all good Fixians gone' or similar title, amazing footage from battles for FAT, that ended with us (and Huzzah, yay!) taking station. Worth downloading for music too. Should be max on 5th page of proper forum.
Because i'm an absolute ***** for pimping my own work 
Where Have All The Good Fix Gone
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Recluse XXX
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: FolkoDemon
SA are pvp alliance, that lives in Stain and defends it.
But...there is nothing to defend is it..or am I wrong?? I always thought that the NPCs that actually owned the stations and had sov were defending "their" space. But again, I might be wrong. No smack intended I am just curious on what it is you are defending, is it your right to dock?
//Rec
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Edited by: sausage jockey on 01/02/2006 22:02:39
We will not give up until we have penetrated the rear entrance to Stain, we hope this will hurt SA to the point they start to cry.
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Righteous Fury
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:52:00 -
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I am now a good percentage less intelligent for having read this thread.
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FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Recluse XXX
Originally by: FolkoDemon
SA are pvp alliance, that lives in Stain and defends it.
But...there is nothing to defend is it..or am I wrong?? I always thought that the NPCs that actually owned the stations and had sov were defending "their" space. But again, I might be wrong. No smack intended I am just curious on what it is you are defending, is it your right to dock?
//Rec
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It's territory. We allow Sansha to hold stations for us, but we are trying to control territory, chaining rights, mining rights (veldspar, heheh), moon mining etc, complexes (lol), and everything else u can find in 0.0.
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Orc A
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Posted - 2006.02.23 16:58:00 -
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Edited by: Orc A on 23/02/2006 16:58:35
My right to shoot red squares without going a single jump.
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Raid
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Recluse XXX
But...there is nothing to defend is it..or am I wrong?? I always thought that the NPCs that actually owned the stations and had sov were defending "their" space. But again, I might be wrong. No smack intended I am just curious on what it is you are defending, is it your right to dock?
//Rec
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If theres nothing to defend then why would anyone go into stain to shoot SA? Defence isnt just about conquerable assets.. its about your right to exist in that part of space with relative safety.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:31:00 -
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to summarize,
SA breaks its word.
SA Launches a pre emptive war on BoB because someone says gang me on the forums.
SA comes to NOL and gets spanked. Took 24 hrs for some of your pods to get out.
SA goes back to stain and sits on there ass waiting for us to carry out the war they started.
SA kills a few roaming BoB. BoB kills some roaming SA. Idiots on both sides pretend this means anything at all, and debate on hac values vs min prices breaks out ffs.
SA stops paying for war dec and try to turn it into a PR victory. heh.
Lessons=
War deccing BoB or any real 0.0 alliance is retarded. If MASS were still running SA (with the exception of this new smacktard which is outside the MASS mold I must say) the war dec would never of happened.
Declaring war on someone and expecting them to come to you is retarded.
BoB is not so easily manipulated.
SA intel sux
Raid has a very clear SA bias. Maybe he forgets who got tyrell into SA in the first place.
This thread in general is rather low quality.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Ashelth
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
I am now a good percentage less intelligent for having read this thread.
Try reading my evemail :p It's about the same only less coherent.
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Recluse XXX
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Raid
If theres nothing to defend then why would anyone go into stain to shoot SA?
I dont know, I moved in to SA space for 3 days to fight them, the first 2 days were fun but on the 3rd day they started to avoid fights even tho they were outnumbering us. And this is the biggest problem whit an alliance like SA. If they dont want to fight they just stay docked and have nothing to loose by doing that. They dont have any stations to defend, they dont have any outposts and they dont have any POS (anymore ;)).
Any alliance that have these things are forced to undock to actually defend their space and their assests in their space. SA can just log out and wait until the enemy is bored sensless, wait for them to leave and then log back on and claim victory and defenders of their space.
So, I really dont know why anybody would go to SA space to fight them beacuse SA cant be beat, SA have nothing to loose...
//Rec
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Edited by: sausage jockey on 01/02/2006 22:02:39
We will not give up until we have penetrated the rear entrance to Stain, we hope this will hurt SA to the point they start to cry.
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Bedrock
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Posted - 2006.02.23 17:56:00 -
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Good to see the forums back in action again. All those North Alliance threads were becoming really boring. This is where the fun is in Eve. THE SOUTH \o/ GL to all involved.
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Wizie
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Posted - 2006.02.23 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Recluse XXX
Originally by: Raid
If theres nothing to defend then why would anyone go into stain to shoot SA?
I dont know, I moved in to SA space for 3 days to fight them, the first 2 days were fun but on the 3rd day they started to avoid fights even tho they were outnumbering us. And this is the biggest problem whit an alliance like SA. If they dont want to fight they just stay docked and have nothing to loose by doing that. They dont have any stations to defend, they dont have any outposts and they dont have any POS (anymore ;)).
Any alliance that have these things are forced to undock to actually defend their space and their assests in their space. SA can just log out and wait until the enemy is bored sensless, wait for them to leave and then log back on and claim victory and defenders of their space.
So, I really dont know why anybody would go to SA space to fight them beacuse SA cant be beat, SA have nothing to loose...
//Rec
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So, SA win Eve.
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FolkoDemon
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Posted - 2006.02.23 18:22:00 -
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ProphetGuru
OMG I'm a new smacktard? Last thig I expected to hear from guru clanner o.O
Sorry for smack, just some BoB's always putting SA in bad light, and never mentioning anything except their victories **** me off.
Or did u ment thebold?
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Galaxion
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Posted - 2006.02.23 18:45:00 -
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Originally by: ProphetGuru
to summarize,
SA breaks its word.
SA Launches a pre emptive war on BoB because someone says gang me on the forums.
SA comes to NOL and gets spanked. Took 24 hrs for some of your pods to get out.
SA goes back to stain and sits on there ass waiting for us to carry out the war they started.
SA kills a few roaming BoB. BoB kills some roaming SA. Idiots on both sides pretend this means anything at all, and debate on hac values vs min prices breaks out ffs.
SA stops paying for war dec and try to turn it into a PR victory. heh.
Lessons=
War deccing BoB or any real 0.0 alliance is retarded. If MASS were still running SA (with the exception of this new smacktard which is outside the MASS mold I must say) the war dec would never of happened.
Declaring war on someone and expecting them to come to you is retarded.
BoB is not so easily manipulated.
SA intel sux
Raid has a very clear SA bias. Maybe he forgets who got tyrell into SA in the first place.
This thread in general is rather low quality.
Mods may as well delete the whole thread but for this post. *applause*
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