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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.02.25 16:18:00 -
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you forgot to add in the bit about the gnw part 1 atuk showed up late and did some mining
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StiZum Hilidii
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Posted - 2006.02.25 16:21:00 -
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stfu did we
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Posted - 2006.02.25 16:21:00 -
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 Originally by: StiZum Hilidii
you forgot to add in the bit about the gnw part 1 atuk showed up late and did some mining
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.02.25 16:37:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 25/02/2006 16:43:51
Okay IÆll take a go at answering your questions Professor Sek.
The GNW formally began when Reikoku Corporation publicly declared war on the Phoenix Alliance in the summer of 2004. In the days that followed Jericho Fraction, several other independent corps, Black Nova, Evolution, Unicor Alliance and eventually Fade Union and Confederation of Deklein all declared war against the PA as well in a coordinated effort to isolate the most powerful northern state at that time.
On the ôrebel allianceö / NCA (Northern Coalition of Alliances) as the anti ôPAö side was initially known:
Reikoku (veteran merc corp of the first venal wars, who had won glory and respect in the campaign against Taggart Transdimensional and the Pirate alliances in the time of the NVA)
Jericho Fraction (political troublemakers and radical freespacers, not militarily powerful but very skilled in the art of building coalitions and manipulating public opinion û long term allies and friends of Reikoku and their support in the GNW was payback and mutual interest for RKK support in times before.)
Black Nova (members of NORAD and allies of Reikoku who helped the veteran mercs establish the first major alliances in Fade and Deklein regions and who similarly aided those fledgling alliances alongside RKK in the defeat of the 2nd incarnation of the Forsaken Empire in tribute.)
Evolution (long term powerhouse of a corp whoÆd had an interest in Venal since Ragnar of TTI tried messing with them in politics and intrigue in the VA (first venal alliances) vs FA (original fountain alliance) days.
Unicor Alliance (a number of anti PA corps building a holding in Tribute and Vale and Geminate who saw the PA as a threat to their independence and didnÆt like PA deals with the pirates of TPS û the pirate syndicate)
Fade Union (alliance in Fade who owed RKK and Black NOVA friendship and favours following the latter corps support of FU against Forsaken Empire pirates)
Confederation of Deklein (alliance in Deklein who owed their existence to RKK corp pretty much, since RKK had actually captured the first capturable station in eve and handed it onto CoD alliance to boost their settlement û CoD was also an ally of the anti Forsaken Empire wars).
On the ôempireö / ôPro Phoenix Allianceö side:
The Phoenix Alliance (and this was the proper phoenix alliance complete with all its famous member corps who have now left and gone onto other things. Industrial giants like RONA and Oberon and CDI, combat experts like BladeRunners and Occasius Republica and RONA-KIA and Northstar Networks and GODS and Cutting Edge and Cataclysm Enterprises, the list goes on, and make no bones about it, at the time the GNW began the PA was one of the most powerful entities in the whole of Eve and the things its corporations have gone onto achieve since their departure should leave nobody in any doubt of that.)
The Pirate Syndicate (initially involved primarily to neutralise Unicor alliance the TPS was a very cunning and skilled alliance of pirate nere-do-wells and schemers who won their theatre handily and ensured the Tribute, Vale front of the GNW was generally secure for the PA throughout.)
The Curse Alliance/Curse successors (in pretty much their last ride of glory the CA fighters came to support the PA in varying numbers both in their original colours and later in their C4/Imperium colours, their interest was making sure the PA stayed alive long enough for their own problems in the south to be resolved without interference from the NCA allies and various other interests).
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.02.25 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 25/02/2006 16:43:00
In the course of the fighting the following Alliances died.
1. Unicor was destroyed and partially assimilated by the Pirate Syndicate (who by a strange quirk of fate were later destroyed and partially assimilated by the Forsaken Empire (mk3) who would evolve into the current Forsaken Empire which has much of the decent corps from Unicor inside it.
2. Confederation of Deklein was pretty much destroyed by the fighting and eventually sued for peace with the PA special ops team ôRONA-KIAö who were consistently the GNWÆs most effective anti alliance fighters of the war. (the remnants of CoD would go onto join the short-lived NSA alliance (Northern Stars Alliance).
3. Fade Union was pretty much destroyed by internal issues and some of its members went onto Band of Brothers, and some of its corps went briefly to the NSA alliance. It was replaced by a soundalike alliance also called Fade Union but this one was full of exiles from the collapse of the Curse Alliance in the far south and was itself destroyed by Band of Brothers.
4. NCA itself (the informal alliance of alliances) was a casualty about 3months into the war because it had become apparent that CoD and Unicor had effectively died off and the PA was scoring kills against the remnants to build up their own morale.
5. The Pirate Syndicate (as mentioned already fell to civil war and arguments about corp thefts and general hassles and left the scene for a long while)
6. Curse Alliance (declared its own death and pulled out of the conflict)
7. Northern Stars Alliance (NSA, was formed by the remnants of Cod and FU and Unicor and pursued a policy of neutrality with the PA and supported the settlement of curse exiles as the new FU. This was a disaster because the new FU attacked Band of Brothers and their northern alliances which led NSA swiftly into war with Band of Brothers which lasted about a week before the NSA was utterly crushed.
8. The original Phoenix Alliance. (PA, died about 5months into the conflict when the IGA was disbanded and a majority of the founding corps left Venal for other things û all of the corps I listed earlier as the ôgreatsö of the PA left. The heart and soul went from the alliance and all that was left was a shell. Now Cochise of 20th Legion continued fighting with that ôshellö and never surrendered or gave up until the point when he was effectively ousted by this own alliance and went onto form Xelas. He was a courageous and talented leader in truth, but the moment the original PA died was the moment when the IGA folded and everyone formally at war with it received dozens of surrender mails for posterity. That was the date the champagne corks popped and celebrations occurred.
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Posted - 2006.02.25 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 25/02/2006 16:39:46
(please remove this bit mods if you could - finger slipped :)
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.02.25 16:39:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 25/02/2006 16:46:05
In the course of the fighting the following Alliances were born.
1. Band of Brothers. (Sir Molle of Evolution and Blacklight and Galavet and DB Preacher and others formed Band of Brothers (called something else originally) as a way of uniting the fighters and continuing the war against PA while the soft targets of CoD and Unicor and Fade etc were able to seek a ceasefire with the PA leadership and stay out of it. They had a vision for a pure combat alliance with no fluff or territorial defence duties. The founding of Band of Brothers tore the heart out of NORAD and obliterated NSA while continuing to terrorise and murder the remnants and exiles of the PA and their allies. It was truly a defining moment in Eve and changed the face of warfare forever.)
2. Northern Stars Alliance. (The immediate successors of COD and FU and Unicor who had grown tired of the war with PA and wanted to build an empire in peace. Sadly for them they made the wrong diplomatic choices and didnÆt last long.)
3. Imperium Alliance. (Formed from a melding of Curse Exiles and the economic powerhouse of the exiled RONA and combat power of RONA KIA û they flourished for a while in the west until they tested the power of Band of Brothers months later and submerged forever.)
4. G Alliance. (The German pilots from the PA united with their friends from elsewhere decided to form an alliance a bit like Band of Brothers with discipline and combat smarts. They have been pretty successful.)
5. IRON alliance. (The defeated remnants of the Northern Stars Alliance (NSA) reformed a month or two later as IRON (Imperial Republic of the North) under the twin dictatorship of Buddrow and Destable of Exodus and Venturecorp. They got rid of a lot of non-combatants from their own roster and have generally been an anti-BoB force ever since.)
6. RAZOR Alliance. (Bladerunners and Cutting Edge from the PA formed an alliance in Pureblind to fight enemies of the PA and people they donÆt like. They live in 5zxx and went onto unify with G and IRON.)
7. Mercenary Coalition. (IÆm going add this one since I think Merc Coalition became a proper alliance when North Star Networks/NSN from the PA joined them)
There are of course many many other changes and births and deaths of small corps and alliances but I think these were the significant ones.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.02.25 16:39:00 -
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As for what started it, well it was actually pretty simple:
Halseth Durn of the PA had a dream to unite all the north in one huge super alliance to dominate the northern territories in power and peaceful commerce and control the approach to Jove space when the jump gates opened to those distant territories. To do this he tried to sign up all the northern alliances to a mutual defence pact. Problem was that individual corps were not invited and this left them out in the cold and targets for alliance malfeasance. Case in point was the Tribute stations that Reikoku had captured from the old Forsaken Empire (mk2) û CDI and Oberon corps within the PA moved on these stations and wanted to add them to the general PA NAP plan/patrolled space. Tensions flared and shots were exchanged. This led to a lot of bad feeling and RKK ships kept getting shot by CDI pilots and eventually RKK and friends went to the PA and gave them an ultimatum to kick CDI out of the alliance or face war. PA refused the ultimatum and the war started.
Now this whole process took a month or so and truth to tell some of RKKÆs friends (like us, evolution, and others) knew that PA would never kick CDI regardless so plans were made to ensure that if war came it would be on our terms. Jade and Alexandra Belani and Molle and Galavet and Lion and Phonix and Taz and Blacklight and others had plans made of the coming war and it was no surprise when PA told RKK to go to hell so the plans triggered immediately. ThatÆs why it got so big so fast.
It was a proper plan for a general multiregional war. All the corps involved had deployed forces and ships in the build up. It was like a superpower showdown and explosion of failed brinksmanship. The greatest Alliance power of the age against a grand coalition of enemies ready to claim its corpse, all that was needed was to light the blue touch paper.
When PA told Galavet of RKK that they refused his ultimatum to eject CDI all he had to do was switch RKK to PA standings to -10 and pick up the communicators and say ôits onö. And the biggest war in the history of eve ignited.
As for its greatest moments?
The massive sense of anticipation during the build up was very very special.
Being the second corporation to formally declare and watching the PA laugh at little Reikoku and insignificant Jericho daring to bark at the big dog alliance was pretty funny too. First 24 hours we had a fight in Venal and were outnumbered about 30 to 1 and it was hilarious to listen to the smack talk from those guys saying how weÆd be crushed and fiscally annihilated in the full knowledge that the next 72 hours would bring another 3-4 full alliances into the war against them.
It was also the war that saw the first major use of interceptors in the game and everyone seemed to be flying them and having a blast. I flew Ares and Taranis and did pretty well but Crows were the order of the day, back then they could fit cruise missiles!
Some of the fights were truly epic and you got a sense of scale from the shared channels and intel source and some nights there were multi front battles raging the length and breadth of the north. Dek, Venal, Tribute, Vale, the whole place was alive with dead ships and people expecting reinforcements from the results of other fights.
Legends were made. The siege of BKG, the raids of RONA-KIA, the big Raven squadrons of BNC, the use of rotating war decs, the latter stages we (JF) declared war on each of the major PA corps operating in empire to keep up the pressure and when they upgraded to a formal IGA we maintained it for the bargain price of 1m isk per week! (those were the days) So the moment when the final surrender game was very very sweet for all involved.
As for the propaganda and such, the wardecs were good, the press releases about them were entertaining and the personalities were great too. In retrospect the whole thing was a blast and its definitely the way that Eve should be played.
Anyways hope this all helps you a bit.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.02.25 16:57:00 -
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Legends were made. The siege of BKG, the raids of RONA-KIA, the big Raven squadrons of BNC, the use of rotating war decs, the latter stages we (JF) declared war on each of the major PA corps operating in empire to keep up the pressure and when they upgraded to a formal IGA we maintained it for the bargain price of 1m isk per week! (those were the days) So the moment when the final surrender game was very very sweet for all involved.
As for the propaganda and such, the wardecs were good, the press releases about them were entertaining and the personalities were great too. In retrospect the whole thing was a blast and its definitely the way that Eve should be played.
Anyways hope this all helps you a bit.
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Janeereer
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Posted - 2006.02.25 16:59:00 -
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Edited by: Janeereer on 25/02/2006 17:04:34
Good to see your essay writing skills are still up to scratch Jade :p
Would just like to add to one of your points, many of the UNICOR PvPers left the alliance before it was disbanded and set-up a PvP corp called equilibrium, which eventually merged, primarily, into EVOL. Strangely, many of the best TPS pilots joined RKK, Diana and blocko to name a few.
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2006.02.25 16:59:00 -
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omg long :|
nice read though ;p since i was never in it ><
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the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that
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Isidor Sek
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Posted - 2006.02.25 17:08:00 -
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THANKK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU
Your reply is indeed most appreciated Madam Constantine..
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Martaak Xaphir
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Posted - 2006.02.25 17:09:00 -
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Great Writing Jasmine Constantine. Thxs for the Information. *bow*
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Pepperami
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Posted - 2006.02.25 17:10:00 -
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Nice post, very informative!
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.02.25 17:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 25/02/2006 17:33:21
Originally by: Janeereer
Edited by: Janeereer on 25/02/2006 17:04:34
Good to see your essay writing skills are still up to scratch Jade :p
Would just like to add to one of your points, many of the UNICOR PvPers left the alliance before it was disbanded and set-up a PvP corp called equilibrium, which eventually merged, primarily, into EVOL. Strangely, many of the best TPS pilots joined RKK, Diana and blocko to name a few.
I made a couple of edits and notes thank you for the additional intel. And though we share a surname I'm not my CEO. Jade's the one who starts wars, I'm the one that makes our Websites  I do enjoy all this eve history though, its one of the reasons I keep paying my subs and training skills in waiting for the next big cataclysmic conflict to get involved in.
thx for all the kind words everyone btw - cheers, its appreciated.
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Mad Mackem
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Posted - 2006.02.25 17:29:00 -
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Just a FYI, but COD was the Coalition of Deklein, still the only alliance named after a fish btw 
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Xanta
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Posted - 2006.02.25 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
10. NBSI (Not Blue Shoot It) Alliance. More combatative offshoot of the PA that were given tenal in exchange for shooting up Xelas and driving them out)
that doesn't sound right :/
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Star Commander
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Posted - 2006.02.25 17:35:00 -
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The North is like a landmine, you survive it with very careful steps, walk carefully
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Ramireza
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Posted - 2006.02.25 17:43:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 25/02/2006 17:20:38
IRON/G/RAZOR hate JF with a passion and we'll never be free while they live ... go figure
Wrong...
We dont hate you.
Why should we ? You are REALY not important.
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Galaxion
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Posted - 2006.02.25 17:50:00 -
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Jade, or Jasmine, or JF or whatever - he/she/it/they've still got it. A pleasure to read.
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Baun
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Posted - 2006.02.25 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: slip66
just goto the vids section and download anything from NSN,Rona-kia, BOB. Then cross ref with any Sirmolle, Jade Constantine or Halsath (sp?) post.
Halseth Durn I think.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.02.25 17:51:00 -
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I'll quote the OP.
Quote:
(PLEASE NOTE: express your own version of events, do not crtique others here, we are trying to collect peoples memories together then deduce an overall picture ourselves)
If anyone disagrees with anything I posted feel free to post your own account but picking mine about with oneliners is not really in the spirit of the thread i think,
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.02.25 18:04:00 -
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whoah nice read JC 
Originally by: Oveur
****! Lets nerf it!
To the nerfmobile!
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.02.25 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Mad Mackem
Just a FYI, but COD was the Coalition of Deklein, still the only alliance named after a fish btw
Regards
thx, edited it right 
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.02.25 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: ParMizaN on 25/02/2006 18:14:38
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
[Forsaken Empire (mk3) who would evolve into the current Forsaken Empire
ohmygod. - most of the old school forsaken empire guys retired or are now in biomass; the ALLIES of Forsaken Empire corporation are now Forsaken Empire Alliance.
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
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King Dave
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Posted - 2006.02.25 18:15:00 -
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Edited by: King Dave on 25/02/2006 18:15:52
The Curse/SA was bigger. So stop calling it the great war.
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Gunstar Zero
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Posted - 2006.02.25 18:18:00 -
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Good read JC.
for me the GNW was about 'educating' what I perceived as the 'arrogant' PA leadership with which I had bad experience.
Crucial to RKK imho was Evolution's influence, they taught us alot, especially discipline - which we lacked initially.
We were labelled upstarts and lapdogs but that only made us fight harder. It was the attitudes of our enemies that helped us win the war.
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Jasmine Constantine
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Posted - 2006.02.25 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN
Edited by: ParMizaN on 25/02/2006 18:14:38
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
[Forsaken Empire (mk3) who would evolve into the current Forsaken Empire
ohmygod. - most of the old school forsaken empire guys retired or are now in biomass; the ALLIES of Forsaken Empire corporation are now Forsaken Empire Alliance.
I've done a little re-editting to better portray that. Its a complex story in its own right. Hope you like it.
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2006.02.25 18:25:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 25/02/2006 18:26:44
I led the very first fleet battle of the GNW. Over 400 ships were involved (a huge number for those days), and it was absolutely mental.
LLenbings GNW vid is well worth a watch.
KIA (rona-kia) lived and breathed that war. The PA of old was one of honour.
ps. Nice Work Jade.
KIA Piccys
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Fred0
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Posted - 2006.02.25 18:31:00 -
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Even I can agree to that summary of the GNW Jade, except for some small thingies that's very accurate. Well done. What I think set it apart from any other war was the intensity of it however and thats why CA/SA pales in comparison. Trying to always live in the same place breeds a different conflict compared to sending fleets....
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