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Frostys Virpio
Lame Corp Name
771
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Posted - 2013.11.25 16:33:00 -
[31] - Quote
With many people giving PLEX, we won`t have to deal with the potential hilarity of the shirts hitting the market at above PLEX price right? |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4886
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:47:00 -
[32] - Quote
PLEX for good is a great way for people to donate that don't necessarily have the spare cash to do so, and CCP are already saying "Thank you for your donation" by creating the SOE Tshirts for your characters... so I don't necessarily see the need for a badge as well.
That being said, giving a sign of recognition for donations or aid to charity is a precedent that has long been set.
So the question is, at what point did we decide that saying "Thank you for your donation" (which is all a virtual Tshirt or badge actually is) is somehow wrong or devalues the contribution that was made.
If you asked a person that receives aid through this method "Do you realize that some of this money only was contributed because some Icelandic company gave away a pixel Tshirt with each donation?" do you really think any of them would object?
Not on your life!
In fact their gratitude would be split between those that contributed and the company that actively solicited to maximize those contributions. The end result is even more money is generated to help those that desperately need it.
It is that end result that is important. Not the motivations behind the donation, or any feeling of moral superiority people might aspire to for not needing said acknowledgement.
There is nothing wrong with saying thank you, especially when the company organizing the event is covering the "cost" of creating the thank you gift.
Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with feeling proud you donated... whether you got some sort of acknowledgement for the donation or not.
Insinuating that a person should not feel proud of their act if they get a thank you in exchange is wrong headed in the extreme, and suggesting that such incentives should be removed is in fact putting your own personal taste ABOVE the vastly more important issue at hand... aid to those in desperate need.
I don't care if they have CCP Guard put on something sexy and perform a lap dance for each donation, as long as it brings in more donations.
More importantly, the people receiving the aid don't care either. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

embrel
BamBam Inc.
78
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:50:00 -
[33] - Quote
Only if lootable. |

Felicity Love
Nighthawk Exploration
1013
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:53:00 -
[34] - Quote
Dunpeal Hunter wrote:I was just thinking, it would be awesome if CCP could give out standard badges to everyone who donates to the Plex for Good campaign that is currently running.
The Badge would be just like any other badge out there that are handed out by corporations, meaning that people can decide for themselves if they want to show it or not, and it would not give any kind of bonus.
It would just be a recognition towards the players themselves and others so that everyone can see that they are (at least at the moment they donated) kind of heart and think of other people who are in desperate need of help outside this game.
No.
This is a game, not a civic service club or a humanitarian aid organization.
You want "danglies" and awards, then join any number of civic organization with an awards system in place to pat each other on the bum every time they get a warm fuzzy feeling about sending a bag of powdered milk to "Wherever".

Proud Beta Tester for "Bumping Uglies for Dummies" |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4887
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Posted - 2013.11.25 18:58:00 -
[35] - Quote
Felicity Love wrote:Dunpeal Hunter wrote:I was just thinking, it would be awesome if CCP could give out standard badges to everyone who donates to the Plex for Good campaign that is currently running.
The Badge would be just like any other badge out there that are handed out by corporations, meaning that people can decide for themselves if they want to show it or not, and it would not give any kind of bonus.
It would just be a recognition towards the players themselves and others so that everyone can see that they are (at least at the moment they donated) kind of heart and think of other people who are in desperate need of help outside this game. No. This is a game, not a civic service club or a humanitarian aid organization. You want "danglies" and awards, then join any number of civic organization with an awards system in place to pat each other on the bum every time they get a warm fuzzy feeling about sending a bag of powdered milk to "Wherever". People are all too eager just to throw "money" at a charity or disaster. Try joining one, rolling up your sleeves and making an effort. I'm sure, that in many places, there's a soup kitchen or old folks home or homeless shelter nearby. 
Nobody is forcing anyone to donate.
Nobody is forcing anyone to redeem the thank you gift if you do donate. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6402
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:04:00 -
[36] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:PLEX for good is a great way for people to donate that don't necessarily have the spare cash to do so, and CCP are already saying "Thank you for your donation" by creating the SOE Tshirts for your characters... so I don't necessarily see the need for a badge as well.
That being said, giving a sign of recognition for donations or aid to charity is a precedent that has long been set.
So the question is, at what point did we decide that saying "Thank you for your donation" (which is all a virtual Tshirt or badge actually is) is somehow wrong or devalues the contribution that was made.
If you asked a person that receives aid through this method "Do you realize that some of this money only was contributed because some Icelandic company gave away a pixel Tshirt with each donation?" do you really think any of them would object?
Not on your life!
In fact their gratitude would be split between those that contributed and the company that actively solicited to maximize those contributions. The end result is even more money is generated to help those that desperately need it.
It is that end result that is important. Not the motivations behind the donation, or any feeling of moral superiority people might aspire to for not needing said acknowledgement.
There is nothing wrong with saying thank you, especially when the company organizing the event is covering the "cost" of creating the thank you gift.
Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with feeling proud you donated... whether you got some sort of acknowledgement for the donation or not.
Insinuating that a person should not feel proud of their act if they get a thank you in exchange is wrong headed in the extreme, and suggesting that such incentives should be removed is in fact putting your own personal taste ABOVE the vastly more important issue at hand... aid to those in desperate need.
I don't care if they have CCP Guard put on something sexy and perform a lap dance for each donation, as long as it brings in more donations.
More importantly, the people receiving the aid don't care either. There's a difference between receiving thanks, and asking for it. EVE Online - An Unstable Game |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4888
|
Posted - 2013.11.25 19:13:00 -
[37] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:PLEX for good is a great way for people to donate that don't necessarily have the spare cash to do so, and CCP are already saying "Thank you for your donation" by creating the SOE Tshirts for your characters... so I don't necessarily see the need for a badge as well.
That being said, giving a sign of recognition for donations or aid to charity is a precedent that has long been set.
So the question is, at what point did we decide that saying "Thank you for your donation" (which is all a virtual Tshirt or badge actually is) is somehow wrong or devalues the contribution that was made.
If you asked a person that receives aid through this method "Do you realize that some of this money only was contributed because some Icelandic company gave away a pixel Tshirt with each donation?" do you really think any of them would object?
Not on your life!
In fact their gratitude would be split between those that contributed and the company that actively solicited to maximize those contributions. The end result is even more money is generated to help those that desperately need it.
It is that end result that is important. Not the motivations behind the donation, or any feeling of moral superiority people might aspire to for not needing said acknowledgement.
There is nothing wrong with saying thank you, especially when the company organizing the event is covering the "cost" of creating the thank you gift.
Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with feeling proud you donated... whether you got some sort of acknowledgement for the donation or not.
Insinuating that a person should not feel proud of their act if they get a thank you in exchange is wrong headed in the extreme, and suggesting that such incentives should be removed is in fact putting your own personal taste ABOVE the vastly more important issue at hand... aid to those in desperate need.
I don't care if they have CCP Guard put on something sexy and perform a lap dance for each donation, as long as it brings in more donations.
More importantly, the people receiving the aid don't care either. There's a difference between receiving thanks, and asking for it. Yes there is, however I took the OP as more of a suggestion as to how to encourage more donations. I'm sure every charitable institution on the planet has critical meetings to discuss that very subject all the time.
Discussing idea's like this hurt no one, and potentially do a lot of good for those that need it most. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Zions Child
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
547
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:22:00 -
[38] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:OP is clearly a fan of silicone bracelets.
To be fair, the Done Vida bracelets are nice, because they might possibly get someone to ask what they are, and it's nice to get the other recognition from organ donation (in the sense that it's nice knowing that the organs helpedpeople).
As for the thread, if people get something for donating then oh well. Companies and those who make larger sums of money get tax breaks from donating, so it's not exactly without precedent, and in this case a badge (or the t-shirt we're already getting) isn't even a monetary benefit.
However, asking for something in return for donating is ******.
Basically, if you get stuff for donating, you shouldn't be made to feel bad for displaying it (e.g. by wearing a t-shirt, in real life or in EVE). At the same time, you shouldn't EXPECT things in return for donating.
Also, funnily enough, if people didn't get something out of charity, they wouldn't do it. Altrusim makes us feel better, and anyone who says "I donate out my ideological duty!" is over simplifying the underlying reasons as to their behavior. |

Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
806
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:48:00 -
[39] - Quote
Sounds like this is about Ego, not charity.
CCP, trading shiny pictures for playability since 2003.. EvE, a cutting edge game. The only game to provide Matrix style gameplay for the masses! (trouble is, most people don't have 9 hours to waste on a one hour fight.) |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
603
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Posted - 2013.11.25 19:57:00 -
[40] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:PLEX for good is a great way for people to donate that don't necessarily have the spare cash to do so, and CCP are already saying "Thank you for your donation" by creating the SOE Tshirts for your characters... so I don't necessarily see the need for a badge as well.
That being said, giving a sign of recognition for donations or aid to charity is a precedent that has long been set.
So the question is, at what point did we decide that saying "Thank you for your donation" (which is all a virtual Tshirt or badge actually is) is somehow wrong or devalues the contribution that was made.
If you asked a person that receives aid through this method "Do you realize that some of this money only was contributed because some Icelandic company gave away a pixel Tshirt with each donation?" do you really think any of them would object?
Not on your life!
In fact their gratitude would be split between those that contributed and the company that actively solicited to maximize those contributions. The end result is even more money is generated to help those that desperately need it.
It is that end result that is important. Not the motivations behind the donation, or any feeling of moral superiority people might aspire to for not needing said acknowledgement.
There is nothing wrong with saying thank you, especially when the company organizing the event is covering the "cost" of creating the thank you gift.
Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with feeling proud you donated... whether you got some sort of acknowledgement for the donation or not.
Insinuating that a person should not feel proud of their act if they get a thank you in exchange is wrong headed in the extreme, and suggesting that such incentives should be removed is in fact putting your own personal taste ABOVE the vastly more important issue at hand... aid to those in desperate need.
I don't care if they have CCP Guard put on something sexy and perform a lap dance for each donation, as long as it brings in more donations.
More importantly, the people receiving the aid don't care either. There's a difference between receiving thanks, and asking for it. Yes there is, however I took the OP as more of a suggestion as to how to encourage more donations. I'm sure every charitable institution on the planet has critical meetings to discuss that very subject all the time. Discussing idea's like this hurt no one, and potentially do a lot of good for those that need it most.
I'm POSITIVE they have lots of meetings. How else can they turn someone's pain and sickness into a paycheck for themselves?
Wanna buy some blank yellow t-shirts to print your "charities" logo on it? I have lots for sale super cheap becauase it's a "good cause".
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4893
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Posted - 2013.11.25 20:19:00 -
[41] - Quote
Quote:I'm POSITIVE they have lots of meetings. How else can they turn someone's pain and sickness into a paycheck for themselves?
Wanna buy some blank yellow t-shirts to print your "charities" logo on it? I have lots for sale super cheap becauase it's a "good cause".
If those groups don't put some of the money taken in for living expenses, how to you realistically expect them to devote their lives to the cause? Do you expect them to survive on fresh air and sunshine?
They also invest some of those funds in advertising and promotional events/rewards... because those generate even more donations. DONATIONS THAT HELP THOSE IN NEED.
I'm assuming you are an adult, so at least pretend to be realistic.
This is beside the point anyway, no one is taking any money donated to pay for salaries in this case... which makes it a big win for all concerned. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Batelle
Komm susser Tod
497
|
Posted - 2013.11.25 20:28:00 -
[42] - Quote
Dunpeal Hunter wrote:
It would just be a recognition towards the players themselves and others so that everyone can see that they are (at least at the moment they donated) kind of heart and think of other people who are in desperate need of help outside this game.
You're getting a shirt.
Which someone else can purchase off the market and use as proof that they donated. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |

Jenahl
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
33
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Posted - 2013.11.25 20:45:00 -
[43] - Quote
If I remember correctly, anyone who donated a PLEX would be receiving SOE t-shirts in game, or something like that. Why does this special snowflake deserve a medal for his charitable giving again?
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LittleTerror
Illuminated Foundation Trust
112
|
Posted - 2013.11.25 21:08:00 -
[44] - Quote
Dunpeal Hunter wrote:I was just thinking, it would be awesome if CCP could give out standard badges to everyone who donates to the Plex for Good campaign that is currently running.
The Badge would be just like any other badge out there that are handed out by corporations, meaning that people can decide for themselves if they want to show it or not, and it would not give any kind of bonus.
It would just be a recognition towards the players themselves and others so that everyone can see that they are (at least at the moment they donated) kind of heart and think of other people who are in desperate need of help outside this game.
So your only reason for donating is for the recognition?
Not self interested I see. |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
603
|
Posted - 2013.11.26 00:43:00 -
[45] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:I'm POSITIVE they have lots of meetings. How else can they turn someone's pain and sickness into a paycheck for themselves?
Wanna buy some blank yellow t-shirts to print your "charities" logo on it? I have lots for sale super cheap becauase it's a "good cause".
If those groups don't put some of the money taken in for living expenses, how to you realistically expect them to devote their lives to the cause?
That's one of the naive things people always say. It's called volunteerism.
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Trillian Stargazer
Origin. Black Legion.
11
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Posted - 2013.11.26 03:22:00 -
[46] - Quote
OP probably bought one of the XBONE achievements that are selling on EBAY.
Did you know you can make your own "badge" or as we call them, Medals. |

CETA Elitist
The Prometheus Society
9
|
Posted - 2013.11.26 03:26:00 -
[47] - Quote
I demand every family who benefited from my contribution to the Plex for Good campaign pay me back with 10% interest. |

Lailyana Enaka
Saved Before Death Industries
85
|
Posted - 2013.11.26 04:14:00 -
[48] - Quote
I honestly will probably sell my shirts, i didnt donate because i wanted merch i dontated because a country just got ravaged by a horrible storm, im not sure I would accept anything other than a thank you for my contribution |

Diamond Zerg
The Scope Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.11.26 04:22:00 -
[49] - Quote
Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Doesn't everyone know it's chic to donate these days to get the t-shirt, ribbon or other useless piece of crap to show everyone how hip you are? Most "charitable" organizations are making boatloads of money off of these "causes".
Ask someone to donate on a regular basis to something like the center for missing and exploited children and you'll just get a blank stare because they don't do "fun runs" or have a specific colored wristband to wear. On the other hand tell them there is a branded breast cancer thing that gives away pink shirts and recognition junkies scramble to get one to "show their support".
Pathetic...but I don't expect much more from subjugated subhumans.
Was that last part a racist remark? O_o
Also, i'm all for it OP.
Tbh I wish they'd make a PLEX for good donation fund for faster than light travel. Going to make a separate thread for that now. |

Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
371
|
Posted - 2013.11.26 05:30:00 -
[50] - Quote
/emote gets to work crafting Public Double Cheek Aperture medal.
Respect. Fist-pound-lateral-peace-sign If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg |

Knights Armament
But I p0op from there
118
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Posted - 2013.11.26 10:48:00 -
[51] - Quote
I would like to donate, but money doesn't solve these problems. The problem is one not of economics, but of butt **** from God, you see when Godless people exist they are punished, as evidenced by what happened to the Japanese. What we need is to pray for these people, and hope that God shows mercy on these infidels. https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=29554516-05f9-4eca-a942-32e1701a6569&action=buddy |

Dunpeal Hunter
Zervas Aeronautics The Unthinkables
20
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Posted - 2013.11.26 12:29:00 -
[52] - Quote
Can this topic be locked? It did not get the result i was hoping for, which was likes to this character.  |

Tron 3K
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
173
|
Posted - 2013.11.26 12:34:00 -
[53] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:I'm POSITIVE they have lots of meetings. How else can they turn someone's pain and sickness into a paycheck for themselves?
Wanna buy some blank yellow t-shirts to print your "charities" logo on it? I have lots for sale super cheap becauase it's a "good cause".
If those groups don't put some of the money taken in for living expenses, how to you realistically expect them to devote their lives to the cause? Do you expect them to survive on fresh air and sunshine? They also invest some of those funds in advertising and promotional events/rewards... because those generate even more donations. DONATIONS THAT HELP THOSE IN NEED. I'm assuming you are an adult, so at least pretend to be realistic. This is beside the point anyway, no one is taking any money donated to pay for salaries in this case... which makes it a big win for all concerned. Have you seen what the CEO's and higher ups make in a charity? Its astronomical! To top it off they may have some workers work for them that do barely minimum wage but the rest are VOLUNTEERS. Thats right no money to them because they are volunteering their time to help a cause. I have no problem with people making money but if you are making millions of dollars yourself in a charity something needs to be looked at and people need to stop giving to that charity till their pay is decreased.
Goodwill is a prime example. Everything is given to them for free but they make money off it and iirc the ceo of that company rakes it in, into the millions of dollars on "helping" people. Its sad.. People should stop giving to them and give to charities that actually are a charity. Maybe the Salvation Army (not sure if they are money grubbers or not) |

Tron 3K
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
173
|
Posted - 2013.11.26 12:35:00 -
[54] - Quote
Knights Armament wrote:I would like to donate, but money doesn't solve these problems. The problem is one not of economics, but of butt **** from God, you see when Godless people exist they are punished, as evidenced by what happened to the Japanese. What we need is to pray for these people, and hope that God shows mercy on these infidels. I hope you are ******* joking.. If you are good trolling.. If not you are probably the same sick **** as the westboro people saying it was gods will for the dude to kill the children and for men to **** women, yada yada.. |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
1368
|
Posted - 2013.11.26 13:51:00 -
[55] - Quote
If you care about quasi-philosophical mumbo-jumbo like "if you need recognition it's not giving", "you don't understand concept of giving" more than actual result - you are very wrong. People are dying there and it's amount of money that matters, not motivation of donators.
If there were tiered rewards - most likely people would give more. Yet community is trying to shame people who want to give more but have a bit different motives. This is wrong.
OP is correct: more money gathered = better. If badges will help to gather few more thousands - it's good. |

embrel
BamBam Inc.
79
|
Posted - 2013.11.26 14:27:00 -
[56] - Quote
Knights Armament wrote:I would like to donate, but money doesn't solve these problems. The problem is one not of economics, but of butt **** from God, you see when Godless people exist they are punished, as evidenced by what happened to the Japanese. What we need is to pray for these people, and hope that God shows mercy on these infidels.
Your God sounds just as merciful as Satan.
STFU or go back to the 15th century where you belong. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
4907
|
Posted - 2013.11.26 14:46:00 -
[57] - Quote
Tron 3K wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:I'm POSITIVE they have lots of meetings. How else can they turn someone's pain and sickness into a paycheck for themselves?
Wanna buy some blank yellow t-shirts to print your "charities" logo on it? I have lots for sale super cheap becauase it's a "good cause".
If those groups don't put some of the money taken in for living expenses, how to you realistically expect them to devote their lives to the cause? Do you expect them to survive on fresh air and sunshine? They also invest some of those funds in advertising and promotional events/rewards... because those generate even more donations. DONATIONS THAT HELP THOSE IN NEED. I'm assuming you are an adult, so at least pretend to be realistic. This is beside the point anyway, no one is taking any money donated to pay for salaries in this case... which makes it a big win for all concerned. Have you seen what the CEO's and higher ups make in a charity? Its astronomical! To top it off they may have some workers work for them that do barely minimum wage but the rest are VOLUNTEERS. Thats right no money to them because they are volunteering their time to help a cause. I have no problem with people making money but if you are making millions of dollars yourself in a charity something needs to be looked at and people need to stop giving to that charity till their pay is decreased. Goodwill is a prime example. Everything is given to them for free but they make money off it and iirc the ceo of that company rakes it in, into the millions of dollars on "helping" people. Its sad.. People should stop giving to them and give to charities that actually are a charity. Maybe the Salvation Army (not sure if they are money grubbers or not)
And what would you determine to be an appropriate salary for the CEO of an international organization that oversee's thousands of employee's and thousands more volunteers, handling the logistics of moving supplies across the globe daily?
It takes education and skill to run an organization like that, so you need a CEO that knows their stuff. I think you'll find that the salary range for comparable jobs pays considerably more.
Charity and relief organizations can't run on all volunteers, with talent from people that do other things for a living. It is a huge undertaking, and it requires money to run.
If you can't understand that this is what some people do for a living, and how they support their families, you need to seriously grow up. There is not, and hopefully never will be, a law that demands people that devote themselves to charity work must do only be able to make less than anyone else would doing the same level of job.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
606
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Posted - 2013.11.26 14:50:00 -
[58] - Quote
CETA Elitist wrote:I demand every family who benefited from my contribution to the Plex for Good campaign pay me back with 10% interest.
That form of development aid exists and seems to actually do some good.
Won-¦t work with disasters such as this one, though. Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Need to advertise your Corp or service? Look no further, this space is now for rent!
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
8779
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:07:00 -
[59] - Quote
Tron 3K wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Quote:I'm POSITIVE they have lots of meetings. How else can they turn someone's pain and sickness into a paycheck for themselves?
Wanna buy some blank yellow t-shirts to print your "charities" logo on it? I have lots for sale super cheap becauase it's a "good cause".
If those groups don't put some of the money taken in for living expenses, how to you realistically expect them to devote their lives to the cause? Do you expect them to survive on fresh air and sunshine? They also invest some of those funds in advertising and promotional events/rewards... because those generate even more donations. DONATIONS THAT HELP THOSE IN NEED. I'm assuming you are an adult, so at least pretend to be realistic. This is beside the point anyway, no one is taking any money donated to pay for salaries in this case... which makes it a big win for all concerned. Have you seen what the CEO's and higher ups make in a charity? Its astronomical! To top it off they may have some workers work for them that do barely minimum wage but the rest are VOLUNTEERS. Thats right no money to them because they are volunteering their time to help a cause. I have no problem with people making money but if you are making millions of dollars yourself in a charity something needs to be looked at and people need to stop giving to that charity till their pay is decreased. Goodwill is a prime example. Everything is given to them for free but they make money off it and iirc the ceo of that company rakes it in, into the millions of dollars on "helping" people. Its sad.. People should stop giving to them and give to charities that actually are a charity. Maybe the Salvation Army (not sure if they are money grubbers or not)
So go out and buy things they need out there like water purifiers, solar power fridges, food and large tents and donate that. The people in the uk have raised -ú60 million or the disaster relief fund plus the -ú30 million from the uk govenment. We are litterally donating more than most nations governments and all of it will be used. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
605
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Posted - 2013.11.26 15:18:00 -
[60] - Quote
Diamond Zerg wrote:Minmatar Citizen160812 wrote:Doesn't everyone know it's chic to donate these days to get the t-shirt, ribbon or other useless piece of crap to show everyone how hip you are? Most "charitable" organizations are making boatloads of money off of these "causes".
Ask someone to donate on a regular basis to something like the center for missing and exploited children and you'll just get a blank stare because they don't do "fun runs" or have a specific colored wristband to wear. On the other hand tell them there is a branded breast cancer thing that gives away pink shirts and recognition junkies scramble to get one to "show their support".
Pathetic...but I don't expect much more from subjugated subhumans. Was that last part a racist remark? O_o
No, it was slight against people who act with an intelligence level that is less than human. As in: I acted like a subhuman by only reading the one sentence provided by the top google search item and didn't look up the actual definition before making a stupid remark.
I have to say I do find people hitting the "like" button on that post amusing. So you like that I wrote something that calls out lemmings and then you hit a button designed for them? Put the zombie phone down and start thinking for yourselves. |
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