I was just thinking, it would be awesome if CCP could give out standard badges to everyone who donates to the Plex for Good campaign that is currently running.

The Badge would be just like any other badge out there that are handed out by corporations, meaning that people can decide for themselves if they want to show it or not, and it would not give any kind of bonus.

It would just be a recognition towards the players themselves and others so that everyone can see that they are (at least at the moment they donated) kind of heart and think of other people who are in desperate need of help outside this game.

We already get a cool (in game) shirt as part of this promotion. If there are more freebies awarded, won't there come a point where people will be participating for the merchandise rather than the disaster relief?

Basically its just a worthless badge that only says you have donated a Plex for the Plex for good campaign. i dont see why people would spend isk or real money just to get a badge. And even if thats the case, that would only be good since it would mean that at least a few more plexes are being sold for the Philippines.

I understand that Charity shouldn't need recognition, but still its sometimes nice to let others know that you did something good for someone else outside of this game.

So, public shaming of those who didn't ?

Are you out of your mind ?

I don't think you quite understand the concept of giving.

Doesn't everyone know it's chic to donate these days to get the t-shirt, ribbon or other useless piece of crap to show everyone how hip you are? Most "charitable" organizations are making boatloads of money off of these "causes".

Ask someone to donate on a regular basis to something like the center for missing and exploited children and you'll just get a blank stare because they don't do "fun runs" or have a specific colored wristband to wear. On the other hand tell them there is a branded breast cancer thing that gives away pink shirts and recognition junkies scramble to get one to "show their support".

Pathetic...but I don't expect much more from subjugated subhumans.

I was just thinking, it would be awesome if CCP could give out standard badges to everyone who donates to the Plex for Good campaign that is currently running.

The Badge would be just like any other badge out there that are handed out by corporations, meaning that people can decide for themselves if they want to show it or not, and it would not give any kind of bonus.

It would just be a recognition towards the players themselves and others so that everyone can see that they are (at least at the moment they donated) kind of heart and think of other people who are in desperate need of help outside this game.

we're already getting a badge. its a Sisters of Eve Food Relief shirt, which is awesome.

I was just thinking, it would be awesome if CCP could give out standard badges to everyone who donates to the Plex for Good campaign that is currently running.

The Badge would be just like any other badge out there that are handed out by corporations, meaning that people can decide for themselves if they want to show it or not, and it would not give any kind of bonus.

It would just be a recognition towards the players themselves and others so that everyone can see that they are (at least at the moment they donated) kind of heart and think of other people who are in desperate need of help outside this game.

I don't think you quite understand the concept of giving.

Charity shouldn't need recognition. By bragging about the fact that you have given, you lessen the deed.

OP is clearly a fan of silicone bracelets.

It's not exactly "charity" if you get something out of it.

Hu?

I was just thinking, it would be awesome if CCP could give out standard badges to everyone who donates to the Plex for Good campaign that is currently running.

The Badge would be just like any other badge out there that are handed out by corporations, meaning that people can decide for themselves if they want to show it or not, and it would not give any kind of bonus.

It would just be a recognition towards the players themselves and others so that everyone can see that they are (at least at the moment they donated) kind of heart and think of other people who are in desperate need of help outside this game.

No.

This is a game, not a civic service club or a humanitarian aid organization.

You want "danglies" and awards, then join any number of civic organization with an awards system in place to pat each other on the bum every time they get a warm fuzzy feeling about sending a bag of powdered milk to "Wherever".

People are all too eager just to throw "money" at a charity or disaster. Try joining one, rolling up your sleeves and making an effort. I'm sure, that in many places, there's a soup kitchen or old folks home or homeless shelter nearby.

PLEX for good is a great way for people to donate that don't necessarily have the spare cash to do so, and CCP are already saying "Thank you for your donation" by creating the SOE Tshirts for your characters... so I don't necessarily see the need for a badge as well.

That being said, giving a sign of recognition for donations or aid to charity is a precedent that has long been set.

So the question is, at what point did we decide that saying "Thank you for your donation" (which is all a virtual Tshirt or badge actually is) is somehow wrong or devalues the contribution that was made.

If you asked a person that receives aid through this method "Do you realize that some of this money only was contributed because some Icelandic company gave away a pixel Tshirt with each donation?" do you really think any of them would object?

Not on your life!

In fact their gratitude would be split between those that contributed and the company that actively solicited to maximize those contributions. The end result is even more money is generated to help those that desperately need it.

It is that end result that is important. Not the motivations behind the donation, or any feeling of moral superiority people might aspire to for not needing said acknowledgement.

There is nothing wrong with saying thank you, especially when the company organizing the event is covering the "cost" of creating the thank you gift.

Furthermore, there is nothing wrong with feeling proud you donated... whether you got some sort of acknowledgement for the donation or not.

Insinuating that a person should not feel proud of their act if they get a thank you in exchange is wrong headed in the extreme, and suggesting that such incentives should be removed is in fact putting your own personal taste ABOVE the vastly more important issue at hand... aid to those in desperate need.

I don't care if they have CCP Guard put on something sexy and perform a lap dance for each donation, as long as it brings in more donations.

More importantly, the people receiving the aid don't care either.

There's a difference between receiving thanks, and asking for it.

OP is clearly a fan of silicone bracelets.

Yes there is, however I took the OP as more of a suggestion as to how to encourage more donations. I'm sure every charitable institution on the planet has critical meetings to discuss that very subject all the time.

Discussing idea's like this hurt no one, and potentially do a lot of good for those that need it most.

I'm POSITIVE they have lots of meetings. How else can they turn someone's pain and sickness into a paycheck for themselves?

Wanna buy some blank yellow t-shirts to print your "charities" logo on it? I have lots for sale super cheap becauase it's a "good cause".

It would just be a recognition towards the players themselves and others so that everyone can see that they are (at least at the moment they donated) kind of heart and think of other people who are in desperate need of help outside this game.

I was just thinking, it would be awesome if CCP could give out standard badges to everyone who donates to the Plex for Good campaign that is currently running.

The Badge would be just like any other badge out there that are handed out by corporations, meaning that people can decide for themselves if they want to show it or not, and it would not give any kind of bonus.

It would just be a recognition towards the players themselves and others so that everyone can see that they are (at least at the moment they donated) kind of heart and think of other people who are in desperate need of help outside this game.

If those groups don't put some of the money taken in for living expenses, how to you realistically expect them to devote their lives to the cause?

Doesn't everyone know it's chic to donate these days to get the t-shirt, ribbon or other useless piece of crap to show everyone how hip you are? Most "charitable" organizations are making boatloads of money off of these "causes".

Ask someone to donate on a regular basis to something like the center for missing and exploited children and you'll just get a blank stare because they don't do "fun runs" or have a specific colored wristband to wear. On the other hand tell them there is a branded breast cancer thing that gives away pink shirts and recognition junkies scramble to get one to "show their support".

Pathetic...but I don't expect much more from subjugated subhumans.

If those groups don't put some of the money taken in for living expenses, how to you realistically expect them to devote their lives to the cause? Do you expect them to survive on fresh air and sunshine?

They also invest some of those funds in advertising and promotional events/rewards... because those generate even more donations. DONATIONS THAT HELP THOSE IN NEED.

I'm assuming you are an adult, so at least pretend to be realistic.

This is beside the point anyway, no one is taking any money donated to pay for salaries in this case... which makes it a big win for all concerned.

I would like to donate, but money doesn't solve these problems. The problem is one not of economics, but of butt **** from God, you see when Godless people exist they are punished, as evidenced by what happened to the Japanese. What we need is to pray for these people, and hope that God shows mercy on these infidels.

I would like to donate, but money doesn't solve these problems. The problem is one not of economics, but of butt **** from God, you see when Godless people exist they are punished, as evidenced by what happened to the Japanese. What we need is to pray for these people, and hope that God shows mercy on these infidels.

Have you seen what the CEO's and higher ups make in a charity? Its astronomical! To top it off they may have some workers work for them that do barely minimum wage but the rest are VOLUNTEERS. Thats right no money to them because they are volunteering their time to help a cause. I have no problem with people making money but if you are making millions of dollars yourself in a charity something needs to be looked at and people need to stop giving to that charity till their pay is decreased.

Goodwill is a prime example. Everything is given to them for free but they make money off it and iirc the ceo of that company rakes it in, into the millions of dollars on "helping" people. Its sad.. People should stop giving to them and give to charities that actually are a charity. Maybe the Salvation Army (not sure if they are money grubbers or not)

I demand every family who benefited from my contribution to the Plex for Good campaign pay me back with 10% interest.

Have you seen what the CEO's and higher ups make in a charity? Its astronomical! To top it off they may have some workers work for them that do barely minimum wage but the rest are VOLUNTEERS. Thats right no money to them because they are volunteering their time to help a cause. I have no problem with people making money but if you are making millions of dollars yourself in a charity something needs to be looked at and people need to stop giving to that charity till their pay is decreased.

Goodwill is a prime example. Everything is given to them for free but they make money off it and iirc the ceo of that company rakes it in, into the millions of dollars on "helping" people. Its sad.. People should stop giving to them and give to charities that actually are a charity. Maybe the Salvation Army (not sure if they are money grubbers or not)

Was that last part a racist remark? O_o

I was just thinking, it would be awesome if CCP could give out standard badges to everyone who donates to the Plex for Good campaign that is currently running.

The Badge would be just like any other badge out there that are handed out by corporations, meaning that people can decide for themselves if they want to show it or not, and it would not give any kind of bonus.

It would just be a recognition towards the players themselves and others so that everyone can see that they are (at least at the moment they donated) kind of heart and think of other people who are in desperate need of help outside this game.

If you give just to get recognition, it's not giving.

And what would you determine to be an appropriate salary for the CEO of an international organization that oversee's thousands of employee's and thousands more volunteers, handling the logistics of moving supplies across the globe daily?

It takes education and skill to run an organization like that, so you need a CEO that knows their stuff. I think you'll find that the salary range for comparable jobs pays considerably more.

Charity and relief organizations can't run on all volunteers, with talent from people that do other things for a living. It is a huge undertaking, and it requires money to run.

If you can't understand that this is what some people do for a living, and how they support their families, you need to seriously grow up. There is not, and hopefully never will be, a law that demands people that devote themselves to charity work must only be able to make less than anyone else would doing the same level of job.

No! It does not work like that. Donations and gifts to the poor should be given in secrecy...
If you let the poor and friends praise you because you let them know, then that is your reward. Praise from humans.
If the reciever does not know who to thank. Then they can thank God for the help. And God shall investigate and remember your good deed.

Now you know...

You could ask yourself if it matters why people donate in the first place, as long as money is raised?

I was just thinking, it would be awesome if CCP could give out standard badges to everyone who donates to the Plex for Good campaign that is currently running.

The Badge would be just like any other badge out there that are handed out by corporations, meaning that people can decide for themselves if they want to show it or not, and it would not give any kind of bonus.

It would just be a recognition towards the players themselves and others so that everyone can see that they are (at least at the moment they donated) kind of heart and think of other people who are in desperate need of help outside this game.

If it doesn't matter how the money is raised, does that mean it is okay for charity collectors to accost people in the street and hold them at knife-point, demanding money? Charity muggers (or "chuggers") are a symptom of the disease, where the disease is charity organisations believing that the end justifies the means.

Who are these modern day Robin Hoods, the chuggers?

Where do I sign up?

Sorry for taking your post so light-hearted. I just think it is funny to compare someone asking for a badge in an internet game to the use of unethically derived research findings, or the use of RL muggings to raise money for charity. Classic over analysis of the issue.

Ganking shouldn't need recognition. By bragging about the fact that you have ganked, you lessen the deed.

I vote that we give a badge to the Philippine government for also figuring out a way to profit from your donations.

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