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Ginger Magician
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Posted - 2006.02.28 09:47:00 -
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I think u hit the nail on the head with the original topic starter post.There is no doubt that I am the most well known pirate.But pirates can be divided up - some are good at some things others at other things.But in general if you are a good pirate and respected/feared/hated then your name tends to get banded about on these forums.For example I dont think anyone who has not posted in this thread or been menetioned would be missing from a list of EVE's biggest pirates.
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Llucia
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Posted - 2006.02.28 10:02:00 -
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Back in the day i would have to say Jokes too. Was only 3 or 4 of them but they were well organised, had the ships setup right. You would normally get one or two in inties, a Raven and a Scorp.
Luckly i only ran into them a few times in Pure Blind and manged to get away!
Also known peeps like TankCEO
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Zeromancer
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Posted - 2006.02.28 10:15:00 -
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Edited by: Zeromancer on 28/02/2006 10:15:51
Well her is a caerbear's take on this topic.
I have played over two years and therfore i will say that the oldscool pirates are for me the biggest.
Jexter, Fist, Lord Zap, Tank CEO, Lifewire, Bobbeh(first guy to pod me) as individuals.
Old m0o, Jokers, Space invaders, killer clowns and tundragon as corps,
There are a few more but thats the ones that pops up in my head.
Remeber these guys had 30% of the playerbase that current pirates have to kill.
Now you can sit in a 0.4 sys and get 200 kills a night, killing shuttles and frigs at gates.
The corps that i respect now as good and fair fighters are Mafia, S******dly, tundragon.
There may be others but those are the corps that i have run into lately.
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Lanfear's Bane
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Posted - 2006.02.28 11:17:00 -
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Well after then I vote myself to the 'EVE's Young Pirate List'. I'm sort of in the middle, not really very well know, but then not totally unknown.
Also credit to my wingman Lady Abaris, we work together a lot but poor darling always seems to get overlooked. Perhaps it's my charm?
Lanfear's Bane.
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boo3916
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Posted - 2006.02.28 11:52:00 -
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there is no biggest pirates
all pirates use there own methods. i remember the jokers, jexter, fist and co.
we were at war with them after only a few months of playing, it was fun and they were honourable and got my respect. we learnt to pvp then we even took some of the jokers down in even fights with less skills.
we even had an 8 week war against sniggs after a while and that swung it, i got the pvp bug and my corp have now become pirates/pvpers ourselves, come pay us a visit in lonetrek we will always greet u warmly
anyway the names i respect most are jexyer, fist, verone shamis and co and i thank them for making me intrested in pvp, i cant get enough now and needless to say never mined since my first war against the jokers.
i class myself as a pirate but 99% of my kills come in 0.0 so whether i,m a pirate or not is debatable i just like pvp
nice to see tank ceo get a mention too, didnt know he was so well respected, if i had known i perhaps wouldnt have attacked his cerb in my cerb 1 v 1 in 93ip-4
however i won so it dosent matter
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Drommy
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Posted - 2006.02.28 13:17:00 -
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i had a 140 mil bounty once if that counts 
IF YOU AINT BLUE... YOUR GOO
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velocoraptor
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Posted - 2006.02.28 13:33:00 -
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From all of the above I have only met gingy and I can't say I have much respect for him, what with always running when we try to catch him (I'm not talking blob here, was only me tackling in a ranis and a scorpion friend against his mega, both much noober than him). Of course I like to think that all of his 'attitude' is mostly role play (no offence m8).
Still I guess his does have a lot of kills under his belt (not from belt piracy though).
However I'd have to agree with some posters that 'most kills make not best pirate'. Gate snipping does not require much skills, specially if you have support near by. Good knowledge of game mechanics (scanner etc), good tactics and not being afraid to loose a ship now and then would win my vote.I hear good things about verone too, but who can tell really?
P.S. Now with the eve^2 offer I'm seriously thinking of making a pirate alt so soon(tm) i'll be the bestest piwate in the universe. Fear my achura of doom
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Lanfear's Bane
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Posted - 2006.02.28 14:38:00 -
[128]
 Originally by: velocoraptor
Still I guess his does have a lot of kills under his belt (not from belt piracy though).
Ever tried to belt hunt? Typical hunt goes like this:
1) I enter system - there are 9 other people.
2) I find a suitable scanning point and warp to it.
3) I arrive at my scanning point. There are now 7 other people in local.
4) I scan the area and locate 1 person. I do some quick warps and narrow down their position. There are now 4 people in local. The person I have found is at a gate. They leave.
5) I am now in local with 3 other people. 1 is missioning and 2 are docked. 1:30 minutes elapsed total.
6) I give up and put a sniper setup on.
Getting belt kills in a 'pirate' fashion. IE not against other pirates or huge blob squads is hard and boring work.
Pirate has to be about the hardest profession in EVE yet it receives the most and worst criticism. We have to suffer consant abuse in local, convos and EVEmail. We have no 'reliable' source of income. We can't go into high sec. Anyone can shoot us anywhere. We get flagged. Ships and modules can be a pain to aquire. We have this all on our backs and carry it for you yet we have the rest of the community standing over us smacking us with sticks. Be nice to a pirate for a change.
People are awfully quick to preach about what they don't know / understand.
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Lanfear's Bane.
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Revara
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Posted - 2006.02.28 14:43:00 -
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I thought i was the biggest, meanest, downright nastiest pirate in the eve world but the other pirates picked on me and poked me in the eye now i have to wear a patch
YARRRRRRRRRR
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.02.28 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Lanfear's Bane
Originally by: velocoraptor
Still I guess his does have a lot of kills under his belt (not from belt piracy though).
Ever tried to belt hunt? Typical hunt goes like this:
1) I enter system - there are 9 other people.
2) I find a suitable scanning point and warp to it.
3) I arrive at my scanning point. There are now 7 other people in local.
4) I scan the area and locate 1 person. I do some quick warps and narrow down their position. There are now 4 people in local. The person I have found is at a gate. They leave.
5) I am now in local with 3 other people. 1 is missioning and 2 are docked. 1:30 minutes elapsed total.
6) I give up and put a sniper setup on.
Getting belt kills in a 'pirate' fashion. IE not against other pirates or huge blob squads is hard and boring work.
Pirate has to be about the hardest profession in EVE yet it receives the most and worst criticism. We have to suffer consant abuse in local, convos and EVEmail. We have no 'reliable' source of income. We can't go into high sec. Anyone can shoot us anywhere. We get flagged. Ships and modules can be a pain to aquire. We have this all on our backs and carry it for you yet we have the rest of the community standing over us smacking us with sticks. Be nice to a pirate for a change.
People are awfully quick to preach about what they don't know / understand.
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Lanfear's Bane.
Everybody is in a mission, I catch the odd bs at gates/stations, but most players have insta jumps/docks. Most of kills are made up of cruisers/bcs and its damm annoying.
I woulda thought scan probes 4tw, but 99.9999% of missions are deadspace and the guys move away from the warp beacon as they cruise through their spawns.
Also getting these probes to work is pretty damm hard in the first place.
In the end Ive come to the conclusion that empire piracey is a hell of alot harder, more time consuming and less rewarding than 0.0 pvp.
/me heads back to 0.0 once again
And Wrangler > j00 -Eldo
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.02.28 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician
There is no doubt that I am the most well known pirate.
No.
Tank ceo is probably still much more well know than you. Your self-inflationary ego is impressive though.
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
I Luv Teh Parm!!1 - Imaran |
Shin Ra
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Posted - 2006.02.28 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: kessah
Originally by: SATAN
All this forum posting from all these little piwats, you guys all already know who are the best pirates in eve but I guess denial is not just a river in Egypt.
A pirates success should be based on kills/wealth, after all isnt that why we all do it? Unfortunatly there is no way to know what someones wallet looks like so there is no way to know wealth. Many of you so called pirates also have alts that make you isk, because your "pirating" cant even cover your losses.
Fact of the mater is that except for a few of you, the rest are and always have been afraid of your own shadows and unless there is a blob of friends sitting next to you running is the only thing you are good at.
Knowing that just look at kills then, take out useless kills like frigs and such and I can all but assure you Burn Eden will take the cake for best 0.0 pirate corp. Empire pirating probably Snig or Tund, maybe biomass.
Some people that impressed me personaly is Tank, he is very slippery and really was great at 1v1's. Zombie and the original mOo crew, they inspired us to do what we do.
lol steady on my aggrogant friend. now i may not like burn eden for the most part but if you guys didnt fill your low 'completly' *i dont discourage 1 or 2* with warp core stabilizers you'd prolly get the vote. Yes i know your tierd of hearing about it but when you say "the rest are and always have been afriad of your own shadows" it really does give me that 'wow' reaction.
I generally feel if i dont have more than -6 scramble strength in my gang i generally pass you guys by simply becus you will turn tail as soon as your Dampening fails and your taking armour hit your ravens.
I think your corp is very coordinated and quite organised but dont let all them kills go to your head and start feeling that your superior.
Tundragon altho i dislike members, are and it pains me to admit, are honourable and as soon as summin is done in the corp that isnt how the game is really ment to be used they discourage it or kick you. Which if you took a lesson from em then u may get alittle more respect.
Also the history of some of your members is a damn disgrace. Some of you guys have acted worse than Ginger magician or fatballs in your sportsmanship, but again i suppose this is all meaningless if brute effeciant killing using any and all mean nessary to score points then sure if u will you guys are it...
Since when did sportsmanship have anything to do with piracy. We don't log in combat or dishonour 1v1s, but thats about it. Boasting cause we killed so many people is something we have earned. And I don't know why you would ever have a gang that had such few scramble strength, other ppl wear stabs too you know.
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Tenacha Khan
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Posted - 2006.02.28 15:18:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN
Originally by: Ginger Magician
There is no doubt that I am the most well known pirate.
No.
Tank ceo is probably still much more well know than you. Your self-inflationary ego is impressive though.
Ive never seen Ginger mentioned as a pirate ingame or on the forums, all I see is his ego posting and people writing threads about his ego posting.
thats not a wellknown pirate, thats a nobody with a forum addiction
And Wrangler > j00 -Eldo
I pwnt Wrangler - Tenacha |
Famine Aligher'ri
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Posted - 2006.02.28 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
A pirates success should be based on kills/wealth, after all isnt that why we all do it? Unfortunatly there is no way to know what someones wallet looks like so there is no way to know wealth. Many of you so called pirates also have alts that make you isk, because your "pirating" cant even cover your losses.
Fact of the mater is that except for a few of you, the rest are and always have been afraid of your own shadows and unless there is a blob of friends sitting next to you running is the only thing you are good at.
Knowing that just look at kills then, take out useless kills like frigs and such and I can all but assure you Burn Eden will take the cake for best 0.0 pirate corp. Empire pirating probably Snig or Tund, maybe biomass.
Rofl a non-solo corp talking about people fearing shadows. Big diffrence from 5-7 vs 30 than 1 vs 30 or dieing with friends than dieing solo. But then again I'm glad BE isn't another Verone handing out flowers. So cheers to that.
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Androclese
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:16:00 -
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Most of you are known only because of your forum whoring and your continual sycophantic name dropping. I'd be more impressed if the carebear population which I am part of named you in this thread!
That statement refers to the majority of you not all though. LOL at Ginger who said that people who haven't posted or been mentioned here are not in this catagory. I know plenty of low sec pirates who have both podded me and loads of others for that matter, successfully ransomed and extorted money out of players like myself but dont post here at all.
Sure most of you know each other not because you have worked or indeed shot at each other but because you spank each others monkeys all the time saying how good you are in this forum.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:19:00 -
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The above poster knows what hes talking about :)
"Carebears" dont frequent this section of the forums much though
Phenomena of ironies, cast the litany aside
How intelligible, blessed be the forgetful
I Luv Teh Parm!!1 - Imaran |
Lanfear's Bane
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: Androclese
Most of you are known only because of your forum whoring and your continual sycophantic name dropping. I'd be more impressed if the carebear population which I am part of named you in this thread!
That statement refers to the majority of you not all though. LOL at Ginger who said that people who haven't posted or been mentioned here are not in this catagory. I know plenty of low sec pirates who have both podded me and loads of others for that matter, successfully ransomed and extorted money out of players like myself but dont post here at all.
Sure most of you know each other not because you have worked or indeed shot at each other but because you spank each others monkeys all the time saying how good you are in this forum.
Well yay, my mention was from a total unknown. Go me!
First thing my wing man said however was - 'ALT!'. Ya she's a nub.
Lanfear's Bane.
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Androclese
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN
The above poster knows what hes talking about :)
"Carebears" dont frequent this section of the forums much though
They're daft if they don't. All the advice given by Pirates for Pirates, tips for avoiding gatecamps and things like that can only help them avoid losses. If it wasn't for this forum i'd probably lost billions due to suicide ravens or such in hi-sec space as well.
BTW I do like pirates I think they are an essential part of the game plus all the stuff you destroy means more things for me to make money from when people replace them. Keep up the good work and pod more people as well. We need to make the implant prices rise!
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Captain Merkin
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Posted - 2006.02.28 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Ginger is just an attention whore, nothing else.
The most feared?
Tank CEO used to be, at least. Not as well-known nowadays.
Verone is definitely one of the most respected.
Tank is a good un..
Remember he single handedly wiped out a mining op with 3 battleships and 2 cruisers guarding it some years ago (i was a guard in cruiser).
glad he is in our alliance now.
Proving natural selection and Charles Darwin wrong since 1981.
The Kamikaze pilot
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2006.02.28 18:51:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Lanfear's Bane
Originally by: velocoraptor
Still I guess his does have a lot of kills under his belt (not from belt piracy though).
Ever tried to belt hunt? Typical hunt goes like this:
1) I enter system - there are 9 other people.
2) I find a suitable scanning point and warp to it.
3) I arrive at my scanning point. There are now 7 other people in local.
4) I scan the area and locate 1 person. I do some quick warps and narrow down their position. There are now 4 people in local. The person I have found is at a gate. They leave.
5) I am now in local with 3 other people. 1 is missioning and 2 are docked. 1:30 minutes elapsed total.
6) I give up and put a sniper setup on.
Getting belt kills in a 'pirate' fashion. IE not against other pirates or huge blob squads is hard and boring work.
Pirate has to be about the hardest profession in EVE yet it receives the most and worst criticism. We have to suffer consant abuse in local, convos and EVEmail. We have no 'reliable' source of income. We can't go into high sec. Anyone can shoot us anywhere. We get flagged. Ships and modules can be a pain to aquire. We have this all on our backs and carry it for you yet we have the rest of the community standing over us smacking us with sticks. Be nice to a pirate for a change.
People are awfully quick to preach about what they don't know / understand.
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Lanfear's Bane.
"They" know you, by name. The biggest compliment is the FEAR generated by your name. If you weren't effective, they'd continue doing whatever. Whether you got one, two, or twenty kills in the system over the last week, you did enough to earn there attention and action.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2006.02.28 18:53:00 -
[141]
Originally by: Tenacha Khan
Originally by: Lanfear's Bane
Originally by: velocoraptor
Still I guess his does have a lot of kills under his belt (not from belt piracy though).
Ever tried to belt hunt? Typical hunt goes like this:
1) I enter system - there are 9 other people.
2) I find a suitable scanning point and warp to it.
3) I arrive at my scanning point. There are now 7 other people in local.
4) I scan the area and locate 1 person. I do some quick warps and narrow down their position. There are now 4 people in local. The person I have found is at a gate. They leave.
5) I am now in local with 3 other people. 1 is missioning and 2 are docked. 1:30 minutes elapsed total.
6) I give up and put a sniper setup on.
Getting belt kills in a 'pirate' fashion. IE not against other pirates or huge blob squads is hard and boring work.
Pirate has to be about the hardest profession in EVE yet it receives the most and worst criticism. We have to suffer consant abuse in local, convos and EVEmail. We have no 'reliable' source of income. We can't go into high sec. Anyone can shoot us anywhere. We get flagged. Ships and modules can be a pain to aquire. We have this all on our backs and carry it for you yet we have the rest of the community standing over us smacking us with sticks. Be nice to a pirate for a change.
People are awfully quick to preach about what they don't know / understand.
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Lanfear's Bane.
Everybody is in a mission, I catch the odd bs at gates/stations, but most players have insta jumps/docks. Most of kills are made up of cruisers/bcs and its damm annoying.
I woulda thought scan probes 4tw, but 99.9999% of missions are deadspace and the guys move away from the warp beacon as they cruise through their spawns.
Also getting these probes to work is pretty damm hard in the first place.
In the end Ive come to the conclusion that empire piracey is a hell of alot harder, more time consuming and less rewarding than 0.0 pvp.
/me heads back to 0.0 once again
One of the things I do with my cov ops alts are to scan and try to correlate mission activity in a certain system with the presence of certain ship types on scanner. Saves me time from really even bothering with the system under some situations.
BUT, tbh, strongly thinking about returning to 0,0....numbers of kills were far fewer there but the gear was almost in every case better than the crap some of these carebears fit to their ships these days.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.02.28 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 28/02/2006 19:12:23
Originally by: Cummilla
BUT, tbh, strongly thinking about returning to 0,0....numbers of kills were far fewer there but the gear was almost in every case better than the crap some of these carebears fit to their ships these days.
That's why I like tanking sentries. 95% of the wealth in empire never leaves the protection of the sentry guns.
But yeah, 0.0 can be good, if you are really good with the scanner.
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Ginger Magician
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Posted - 2006.02.28 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Tenacha Khan
Originally by: ParMizaN
Originally by: Ginger Magician
There is no doubt that I am the most well known pirate.
No.
Tank ceo is probably still much more well know than you. Your self-inflationary ego is impressive though.
Ive never seen Ginger mentioned as a pirate ingame or on the forums, all I see is his ego posting and people writing threads about his ego posting.
thats not a wellknown pirate, thats a nobody with a forum addiction
Yes its a crying shame no one menetioned u or that noob ex-carebear Velsharoon u work with.Yet amazingly enough my name was the first in this entire thread and repeated many times thereafter.Cant understand it myself
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.28 19:19:00 -
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Quote:
Yet amazingly enough my name was the first in this entire thread and repeated many times thereafter.Cant understand it myself
Most of us understand completely why you are mentioned often. Easy Entertainment
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:09:00 -
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Edited by: Psycarne on 28/02/2006 20:13:21
Originally by: Lanfear's Bane
Pirate has to be about the hardest profession in EVE yet it receives the most and worst criticism.
No pirate hunting is much harder.
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EDIT: Ginger you are not the most well known pirate in EVE, just because you say it as often as you possibly can dosen't make it true man.
Tank CEO was probably the pirate who has been the most well known and feared for the longest period of time. I mean people still talk about him now and *shock* he dosen't post on the forums.
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:31:00 -
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Quote:
I mean people still talk about him now and *shock* he dosen't post on the forums.
That's because he was banned due to his forums posts.
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
Quote:
I mean people still talk about him now and *shock* he dosen't post on the forums.
That's because he was banned due to his forums posts.
Yeah I know, but my point was that he hasn't been able to post on the forums in well over a year and still has a reputation.
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.28 20:39:00 -
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Edited by: Malka Badi''a on 28/02/2006 20:42:08
Good point.
And for those new to the Tank CEO fanboi/gurl club, watch this. Linkage
Be sure to smooth the video with the option found on the bottom right down arrow found to the right of the player's volume control.
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SATAN
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Posted - 2006.02.28 22:08:00 -
[149]
Originally by: kessah
lol steady on my aggrogant friend. now i may not like burn eden for the most part but if you guys didnt fill your low 'completly' *i dont discourage 1 or 2* with warp core stabilizers you'd prolly get the vote. Yes i know your tierd of hearing about it but when you say "the rest are and always have been afriad of your own shadows" it really does give me that 'wow' reaction.
I generally feel if i dont have more than -6 scramble strength in my gang i generally pass you guys by simply becus you will turn tail as soon as your Dampening fails and your taking armour hit your ravens.
I think your corp is very coordinated and quite organised but dont let all them kills go to your head and start feeling that your superior.
Tundragon altho i dislike members, are and it pains me to admit, are honourable and as soon as summin is done in the corp that isnt how the game is really ment to be used they discourage it or kick you. Which if you took a lesson from em then u may get alittle more respect.
Also the history of some of your members is a damn disgrace. Some of you guys have acted worse than Ginger magician or fatballs in your sportsmanship, but again i suppose this is all meaningless if brute effeciant killing using any and all mean nessary to score points then sure if u will you guys are it...
Funny how you had no problems with us when we resided in the same area. And in fact persuaded us to be friendly towards you.
Oddly enough you also had no problem with asking us to come out and fight along side of you. And asking for our help on many many occasions.
Also very amuzing how you say that you just pass us by, when in fact all you do is run. No matter what you guys are doing at the time if we jump into local its skirts up and to a safe spot.
Speaking of stabs, just recently we ran accross maybe 10 of you with 4 of us. As usuall in 0.0 you guys wont dare bring anything bigger than a cruiser, but the one cruiser we got -2 on still warped away. We may or may not use stabs, but we NEVER use stabs on through away ships.
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Malka Badi'a
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Posted - 2006.02.28 22:12:00 -
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I've always pictured Burn Eden as the "Ginger Magician" of corporations. It's only fair they get nominated too.
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