Originally by: Don ZOLA

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Lifewire, no one else has that bloodseeking cruelty :D

ryan routine is awesome pvper but i wouldnt add him to pirates list tbh, unless he went to some pirate corp and left G.

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Originally by: SargeMonkey

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Since we are on the topic of Pirates, is it common for pirate corps to fight each other over high travel gates? I dont plan on becoming a pirate but knowing what they do can help me keep from becoming there next victam. I also have a non-pirate question, is it common that POS's will not let you dock?

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Originally by: SargeMonkey

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Since we are on the topic of Pirates, is it common for pirate corps to fight each other over high travel gates? I dont plan on becoming a pirate but knowing what they do can help me keep from becoming there next victam. I also have a non-pirate question, is it common that POS's will not let you dock?

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Originally by: slapp

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Originally by: Don ZOLA

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Lifewire, no one else has that bloodseeking cruelty :D

ryan routine is awesome pvper but i wouldnt add him to pirates list tbh, unless he went to some pirate corp and left G.

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time when he was in tdg is simply legendary

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Originally by: Deathhawk

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i wouldnt wanna run into someone called 'Deathhawk' hes quite mean

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Originally by: Verone

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Originally by: Deathhawk

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i wouldnt wanna run into someone called 'Deathhawk' hes quite mean

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I heard he likes fluffy bunnies and prancing through fields of flowers

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Originally by: Verone

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Originally by: Deathhawk

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i wouldnt wanna run into someone called 'Deathhawk' hes quite mean

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I heard he likes fluffy bunnies and prancing through fields of flowers

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Originally by: Verone

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I heard he likes fluffy bunnies and prancing through fields of flowers

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Originally by: tiller

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Originally by: slapp

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Originally by: Don ZOLA

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Lifewire, no one else has that bloodseeking cruelty :D

ryan routine is awesome pvper but i wouldnt add him to pirates list tbh, unless he went to some pirate corp and left G.

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time when he was in tdg is simply legendary

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yes in fact so legendary I've never heard of him.

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Originally by: Bonaventure Augustus

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Because lets be honest, the number of people who play this game drunk on the weekends is astounding.

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Originally by: Don ZOLA

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Originally by: tiller

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Originally by: slapp

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Originally by: Don ZOLA

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Lifewire, no one else has that bloodseeking cruelty :D

ryan routine is awesome pvper but i wouldnt add him to pirates list tbh, unless he went to some pirate corp and left G.

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time when he was in tdg is simply legendary

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yes in fact so legendary I've never heard of him.

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that must mean much cuz no one heard of u either :/ and im pretty sure much ppl heard of lifewire and ryan routine.

but wait u must be mean pirate too u r in pirate coalition ¼_¼

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Originally by: tiller

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Originally by: slapp

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Originally by: Don ZOLA

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Lifewire, no one else has that bloodseeking cruelty :D

ryan routine is awesome pvper but i wouldnt add him to pirates list tbh, unless he went to some pirate corp and left G.

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time when he was in tdg is simply legendary

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yes in fact so legendary I've never heard of him.

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Originally by: Rikkard Strofeldt

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Hmm, thats a poser.

Was on the recruitment chanel looking for real crezzy bastards, and some noob was complaining about losing his ship 3 times at a gatecamp. I was thinking about heading over there and smacking him about a few times myself, and then he said who was there.... Keta Min. oooh bubby, I'm not going past her without asking her first, no sir! She gets tonnes of airtime on the Concord billboards, and my understanding is she's so fast you're waking up in your clone before you know she's there.

As for other pirates, I wouldn't mind flying with Malka, and making a pain of myself. As for Ander, Verone, and Nuggan, I'll be passing them soiling my shreddies, with my arm out of the ship whipping it to make it go faster.

Actually, if I see any of those I'll probably go to a safe spot and log. Crazy, not stupid.

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Originally by: Deathhawk

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Originally by: Don ZOLA

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Originally by: tiller

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Originally by: slapp

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Originally by: Don ZOLA

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Lifewire, no one else has that bloodseeking cruelty :D

ryan routine is awesome pvper but i wouldnt add him to pirates list tbh, unless he went to some pirate corp and left G.

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time when he was in tdg is simply legendary

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yes in fact so legendary I've never heard of him.

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that must mean much cuz no one heard of u either :/ and im pretty sure much ppl heard of lifewire and ryan routine.

but wait u must be mean pirate too u r in pirate coalition ¼_¼

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TBH ive never heard of him either?

must be the PC (pirate coalition) thing!

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0w9 m4aT 4app3n2ed..

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Originally by: Saerid

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Originally by: tiller

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Originally by: slapp

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Originally by: Don ZOLA

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Lifewire, no one else has that bloodseeking cruelty :D

ryan routine is awesome pvper but i wouldnt add him to pirates list tbh, unless he went to some pirate corp and left G.

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time when he was in tdg is simply legendary

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yes in fact so legendary I've never heard of him.

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To be honest not knowing Lifewire says more about you than him.

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Originally by: tiller

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Originally by: Verone

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Originally by: Deathhawk

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i wouldnt wanna run into someone called 'Deathhawk' hes quite mean

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I heard he likes fluffy bunnies and prancing through fields of flowers

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and apparently if you run into someone called Verone he'll do this to you

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Originally by: Verone

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Originally by: tiller

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Originally by: Verone

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Originally by: Deathhawk

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i wouldnt wanna run into someone called 'Deathhawk' hes quite mean

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I heard he likes fluffy bunnies and prancing through fields of flowers

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and apparently if you run into someone called Verone he'll do this to you

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My charisma attribute is way higher than that

Still I've heard that tiller fella has a parrot called mary, and likes to snuggle with puppies and eat chocolate.

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Originally by: tiller

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...and mary my parrot ?, we don't actually like each other, it's just for the sex

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Originally by: kessah

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Then again i reckon ivkar could be a fatty?? gota be pretty big i reckon

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Originally by: Necrologic

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The people i'd be most worried about are Shamis, Drosssk, Psyborg and DigitalCommunist.

I'm really tired of this sort of thread though. The only pirates that get any recognition are the ones that make lots of forum posts or make videos when there are tons of ones who are just as good if not better. I don't mean this as a bash to the people who do post alot (i do myself but i always avoid talking about myself), but tbh credit is not going where it is due.

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Originally by: tiller

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Edited by: tiller on 26/02/2006 21:35:42

Originally by: Necrologic

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The people i'd be most worried about are Shamis, Drosssk, Psyborg and DigitalCommunist.

I'm really tired of this sort of thread though. The only pirates that get any recognition are the ones that make lots of forum posts or make videos when there are tons of ones who are just as good if not better. I don't mean this as a bash to the people who do post alot (i do myself but i always avoid talking about myself), but tbh credit is not going where it is due.

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gratz on getting your post in the thread though

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Originally by: Atom HeartMother

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i would say DigitalCommunist but now hes in guiding hands socal club he's just plain evil, then i would say Lytcus, Verone or Sun Ra co dey got big respect innit.

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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I think Droen(Hupa) has the most hatemail in eve.

There is no "biggest" pirate; there is always somebody better in some aspect that the person before him.

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Originally by: vile56

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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I think Droen(Hupa) has the most hatemail in eve.

There is no "biggest" pirate; there is always somebody better in some aspect that the person before him.

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hes just being modest for more attention. i see threw it

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Originally by: Verone

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Joking in this thread aside, I'd agree with Parm on this subject. Everyone is different in their own respect, so it's hard to guage people against eachother.

I'm really thankful for the positive comments regarding me that have been posted here, but even then I owe my inspiration to a lot of key figures in Eve from before and during my time, such as Zarquon Beeblebrox, Lord Zap, Daakkon, Tank, Tekka, Lifewire, Liu Kaskakka (change your fricking name so I can spell it) and many more.

In light of present day piracy I'd nominate Trey Azagthoth as probably the "biggest" pirate in Eve. Frankly the guy's skills with a blastertron scare the hell out of me.

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Originally by: Na'Axin

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I'd say verone.... dunno why though, not like he ever blew me up :)

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Originally by: Blind Man

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daniel jackson

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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I think Droen(Hupa) has the most hatemail in eve.

There is no "biggest" pirate; there is always somebody better in some aspect that the person before him.

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Originally by: Superbus Maximus

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Back in the day I would give it to Swisher and Borg fusion, but now I dont really know of anyone that spectacular mabey I should get out more often....

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Originally by: Verone

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.. Liu Kaskakka (change your fricking name so I can spell it)

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Originally by: Verone

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A difficult question to answer, it solely relies on your definition of a pirate

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Originally by: Skywalker

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What defines a good pirate ?
I would say, how many people he/she have killed.
This is the only way to measure success, since ransoming and blackmailing don't qualify. There is no use in talking about honourable pirates all that matters is ship kills wich produces loot. Forum whoring, well that's another issue. There are alot of big forum pirates out there...

I would like to give some credits to Lo3d3r / MAFIA since he is on top on both major killboards www.podbase.com and killboard.eve-extra.com

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Originally by: Lifewire

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This kind of topic reflects the deep wish of humans to have a winner in a game. Unfortunatly EVE does not really support the feature to have winners.

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Why would people want a winner?

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Originally by: Lifewire

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This kind of topic reflects the deep wish of humans to have a winner in a game. Unfortunatly EVE does not really support the feature to have winners.

But there are only 3 things that count: kills, kills and kills! I have to admit that Lo3d3r has a crazy ammount of kills. He must be a fanatic and stubborn farmer if he tops my kills - lol.

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Why would people want a winner?

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Don¦t ask me - nearly all games and even the olympic games have winners. You must analyse the nature of games itself to find out why humans want winners in all kind of games. I guess it¦s because it helped mankind to improve and allways keep working on improvement. Games = training. And training is good to be a better human being.

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Originally by: Skywalker

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What defines a good pirate ?
I would say, how many people he/she have killed.
This is the only way to measure success, since ransoming and blackmailing don't qualify. There is no use in talking about honourable pirates all that matters is ship kills wich produces loot. Forum whoring, well that's another issue. There are alot of big forum pirates out there...

I would like to give some credits to Lo3d3r / MAFIA since he is on top on both major killboards www.podbase.com and killboard.eve-extra.com

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Originally by: Necrologic

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Originally by: Skywalker

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What defines a good pirate ?
I would say, how many people he/she have killed.
This is the only way to measure success, since ransoming and blackmailing don't qualify. There is no use in talking about honourable pirates all that matters is ship kills wich produces loot. Forum whoring, well that's another issue. There are alot of big forum pirates out there...

I would like to give some credits to Lo3d3r / MAFIA since he is on top on both major killboards www.podbase.com and killboard.eve-extra.com

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I disagree. There is alot more to piracy than just your kills. Kills just reflect how much time you are able to spend online, and weather your gate camping or belt pirating. I'd judge a pirate on thigs like charisma, style, and how much of an impression they leave before looking at the amount of kills.

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Don¦t get me wrong - i liked the noble Jokers too...but it¦s evolution (not the corp EVOL) that decides who is successfull and who not. Jokers as example for the most noble pirate corp is quite fair, i guess. But in the end, what did they achieve? They quitted EVE because they didn¦t want to adapt.

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Originally by: Superbus Maximus

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Back in the day I would give it to Swisher and Borg fusion, but now I dont really know of anyone that spectacular mabey I should get out more often....

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Originally by: Necrologic

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I disagree. There is alot more to piracy than just your kills. Kills just reflect how much time you are able to spend online, and weather your gate camping or belt pirating. I'd judge a pirate on thigs like charisma, style, and how much of an impression they leave before looking at the amount of kills.

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Kills certainly are not a top deciding factor

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Only kills count...

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I would say that it's how you get your kills that count,

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Originally by: Malka Badi'a

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I would say that it's how you get your kills that count,

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QFT. The method of carnage is more admirable than the carnage itself.

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Logically the 'best' pirate would be one who had the highest financial gain to financial loss ratio from pirating.

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It's more fun that way as well isn't it?

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Erk we just agreed on something didn't we? I hope it doesnÆt cause spontaneous combustion

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Originally by: Malka Badi'a

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It's more fun that way as well isn't it?

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I agree. I could gate camp all day and end up with an ego the size of Jita, but in reality I'm doing nothing more than ignoring the rest of EVE mechanics.

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Erk we just agreed on something didn't we? I hope it doesnÆt cause spontaneous combustion

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Psy, you may hate me for my annoying, prideful attitude. But that doesn't mean I don't respect you as a pirate for having the tactics and proper attitude of a murderer. We can agree and I'm sure the worst that will happen is that the devs will lock the thread because of their initial fear of an overthrow of the forums.

Cheers ♥

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Originally by: Lifewire

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but I've never seen or heard of them doing anything other than sniping

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We did 0.0 piracy for 2 years. I personally have left the PVP state and now am a PVD player (player vs DEVS).

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and I witnessed the transformation into PvD

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Originally by: Necrologic

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Originally by: Skywalker

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What defines a good pirate ?
I would say, how many people he/she have killed.
This is the only way to measure success, since ransoming and blackmailing don't qualify. There is no use in talking about honourable pirates all that matters is ship kills wich produces loot. Forum whoring, well that's another issue. There are alot of big forum pirates out there...

I would like to give some credits to Lo3d3r / MAFIA since he is on top on both major killboards www.podbase.com and killboard.eve-extra.com

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I disagree. There is alot more to piracy than just your kills. Kills just reflect how much time you are able to spend online, and weather your gate camping or belt pirating. I'd judge a pirate on thigs like charisma, style, and how much of an impression they leave before looking at the amount of kills.

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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri

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Damn so much pirate love starting to make me sick.

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Originally by: Psycarne

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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri

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Damn so much pirate love starting to make me sick.

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Sure you don't want a hug Famine?

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Originally by: Superbus Maximus

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Back in the day I would give it to Swisher and Borg fusion, but now I dont really know of anyone that spectacular mabey I should get out more often....

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Originally by: Tenacha Khan

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Originally by: Psycarne

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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri

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Damn so much pirate love starting to make me sick.

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Sure you don't want a hug Famine?

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Hugs all round!!

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Originally by: SATAN

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All this forum posting from all these little piwats, you guys all already know who are the best pirates in eve but I guess denial is not just a river in Egypt.

A pirates success should be based on kills/wealth, after all isnt that why we all do it? Unfortunatly there is no way to know what someones wallet looks like so there is no way to know wealth. Many of you so called pirates also have alts that make you isk, because your "pirating" cant even cover your losses.

Fact of the mater is that except for a few of you, the rest are and always have been afraid of your own shadows and unless there is a blob of friends sitting next to you running is the only thing you are good at.

Knowing that just look at kills then, take out useless kills like frigs and such and I can all but assure you Burn Eden will take the cake for best 0.0 pirate corp. Empire pirating probably Snig or Tund, maybe biomass.

Some people that impressed me personaly is Tank, he is very slippery and really was great at 1v1's. Zombie and the original mOo crew, they inspired us to do what we do.

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Originally by: velocoraptor

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Still I guess his does have a lot of kills under his belt (not from belt piracy though).

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Originally by: Lanfear's Bane

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Originally by: velocoraptor

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Still I guess his does have a lot of kills under his belt (not from belt piracy though).

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Ever tried to belt hunt? Typical hunt goes like this:

1) I enter system - there are 9 other people.
2) I find a suitable scanning point and warp to it.
3) I arrive at my scanning point. There are now 7 other people in local.
4) I scan the area and locate 1 person. I do some quick warps and narrow down their position. There are now 4 people in local. The person I have found is at a gate. They leave.
5) I am now in local with 3 other people. 1 is missioning and 2 are docked. 1:30 minutes elapsed total.
6) I give up and put a sniper setup on.

Getting belt kills in a 'pirate' fashion. IE not against other pirates or huge blob squads is hard and boring work.

Pirate has to be about the hardest profession in EVE yet it receives the most and worst criticism. We have to suffer consant abuse in local, convos and EVEmail. We have no 'reliable' source of income. We can't go into high sec. Anyone can shoot us anywhere. We get flagged. Ships and modules can be a pain to aquire. We have this all on our backs and carry it for you yet we have the rest of the community standing over us smacking us with sticks. Be nice to a pirate for a change.

People are awfully quick to preach about what they don't know / understand.

[/rant]

Lanfear's Bane.

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Originally by: Ginger Magician

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There is no doubt that I am the most well known pirate.

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Originally by: kessah

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Originally by: SATAN

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All this forum posting from all these little piwats, you guys all already know who are the best pirates in eve but I guess denial is not just a river in Egypt.

A pirates success should be based on kills/wealth, after all isnt that why we all do it? Unfortunatly there is no way to know what someones wallet looks like so there is no way to know wealth. Many of you so called pirates also have alts that make you isk, because your "pirating" cant even cover your losses.

Fact of the mater is that except for a few of you, the rest are and always have been afraid of your own shadows and unless there is a blob of friends sitting next to you running is the only thing you are good at.

Knowing that just look at kills then, take out useless kills like frigs and such and I can all but assure you Burn Eden will take the cake for best 0.0 pirate corp. Empire pirating probably Snig or Tund, maybe biomass.

Some people that impressed me personaly is Tank, he is very slippery and really was great at 1v1's. Zombie and the original mOo crew, they inspired us to do what we do.

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lol steady on my aggrogant friend. now i may not like burn eden for the most part but if you guys didnt fill your low 'completly' *i dont discourage 1 or 2* with warp core stabilizers you'd prolly get the vote. Yes i know your tierd of hearing about it but when you say "the rest are and always have been afriad of your own shadows" it really does give me that 'wow' reaction.

I generally feel if i dont have more than -6 scramble strength in my gang i generally pass you guys by simply becus you will turn tail as soon as your Dampening fails and your taking armour hit your ravens.

I think your corp is very coordinated and quite organised but dont let all them kills go to your head and start feeling that your superior.

Tundragon altho i dislike members, are and it pains me to admit, are honourable and as soon as summin is done in the corp that isnt how the game is really ment to be used they discourage it or kick you. Which if you took a lesson from em then u may get alittle more respect.

Also the history of some of your members is a damn disgrace. Some of you guys have acted worse than Ginger magician or fatballs in your sportsmanship, but again i suppose this is all meaningless if brute effeciant killing using any and all mean nessary to score points then sure if u will you guys are it...

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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Originally by: Ginger Magician

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There is no doubt that I am the most well known pirate.

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No.

Tank ceo is probably still much more well know than you. Your self-inflationary ego is impressive though.

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Originally by: SATAN

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A pirates success should be based on kills/wealth, after all isnt that why we all do it? Unfortunatly there is no way to know what someones wallet looks like so there is no way to know wealth. Many of you so called pirates also have alts that make you isk, because your "pirating" cant even cover your losses.

Fact of the mater is that except for a few of you, the rest are and always have been afraid of your own shadows and unless there is a blob of friends sitting next to you running is the only thing you are good at.

Knowing that just look at kills then, take out useless kills like frigs and such and I can all but assure you Burn Eden will take the cake for best 0.0 pirate corp. Empire pirating probably Snig or Tund, maybe biomass.

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Originally by: Androclese

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Most of you are known only because of your forum whoring and your continual sycophantic name dropping. I'd be more impressed if the carebear population which I am part of named you in this thread!

That statement refers to the majority of you not all though. LOL at Ginger who said that people who haven't posted or been mentioned here are not in this catagory. I know plenty of low sec pirates who have both podded me and loads of others for that matter, successfully ransomed and extorted money out of players like myself but dont post here at all.

Sure most of you know each other not because you have worked or indeed shot at each other but because you spank each others monkeys all the time saying how good you are in this forum.

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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The above poster knows what hes talking about :)

"Carebears" dont frequent this section of the forums much though

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Originally by: Dark Shikari

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Ginger is just an attention whore, nothing else.

The most feared?

Tank CEO used to be, at least. Not as well-known nowadays.

Verone is definitely one of the most respected.

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Originally by: Lanfear's Bane

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Originally by: velocoraptor

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Still I guess his does have a lot of kills under his belt (not from belt piracy though).

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Ever tried to belt hunt? Typical hunt goes like this:

1) I enter system - there are 9 other people.
2) I find a suitable scanning point and warp to it.
3) I arrive at my scanning point. There are now 7 other people in local.
4) I scan the area and locate 1 person. I do some quick warps and narrow down their position. There are now 4 people in local. The person I have found is at a gate. They leave.
5) I am now in local with 3 other people. 1 is missioning and 2 are docked. 1:30 minutes elapsed total.
6) I give up and put a sniper setup on.

Getting belt kills in a 'pirate' fashion. IE not against other pirates or huge blob squads is hard and boring work.

Pirate has to be about the hardest profession in EVE yet it receives the most and worst criticism. We have to suffer consant abuse in local, convos and EVEmail. We have no 'reliable' source of income. We can't go into high sec. Anyone can shoot us anywhere. We get flagged. Ships and modules can be a pain to aquire. We have this all on our backs and carry it for you yet we have the rest of the community standing over us smacking us with sticks. Be nice to a pirate for a change.

People are awfully quick to preach about what they don't know / understand.

[/rant]

Lanfear's Bane.

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Originally by: Tenacha Khan

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Originally by: Lanfear's Bane

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Originally by: velocoraptor

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Still I guess his does have a lot of kills under his belt (not from belt piracy though).

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Ever tried to belt hunt? Typical hunt goes like this:

1) I enter system - there are 9 other people.
2) I find a suitable scanning point and warp to it.
3) I arrive at my scanning point. There are now 7 other people in local.
4) I scan the area and locate 1 person. I do some quick warps and narrow down their position. There are now 4 people in local. The person I have found is at a gate. They leave.
5) I am now in local with 3 other people. 1 is missioning and 2 are docked. 1:30 minutes elapsed total.
6) I give up and put a sniper setup on.

Getting belt kills in a 'pirate' fashion. IE not against other pirates or huge blob squads is hard and boring work.

Pirate has to be about the hardest profession in EVE yet it receives the most and worst criticism. We have to suffer consant abuse in local, convos and EVEmail. We have no 'reliable' source of income. We can't go into high sec. Anyone can shoot us anywhere. We get flagged. Ships and modules can be a pain to aquire. We have this all on our backs and carry it for you yet we have the rest of the community standing over us smacking us with sticks. Be nice to a pirate for a change.

People are awfully quick to preach about what they don't know / understand.

[/rant]

Lanfear's Bane.

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Everybody is in a mission, I catch the odd bs at gates/stations, but most players have insta jumps/docks. Most of kills are made up of cruisers/bcs and its damm annoying.

I woulda thought scan probes 4tw, but 99.9999% of missions are deadspace and the guys move away from the warp beacon as they cruise through their spawns.

Also getting these probes to work is pretty damm hard in the first place.

In the end Ive come to the conclusion that empire piracey is a hell of alot harder, more time consuming and less rewarding than 0.0 pvp.

/me heads back to 0.0 once again

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Originally by: Cummilla

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BUT, tbh, strongly thinking about returning to 0,0....numbers of kills were far fewer there but the gear was almost in every case better than the crap some of these carebears fit to their ships these days.

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Originally by: Tenacha Khan

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Originally by: ParMizaN

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Originally by: Ginger Magician

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There is no doubt that I am the most well known pirate.

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No.

Tank ceo is probably still much more well know than you. Your self-inflationary ego is impressive though.

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Ive never seen Ginger mentioned as a pirate ingame or on the forums, all I see is his ego posting and people writing threads about his ego posting.

thats not a wellknown pirate, thats a nobody with a forum addiction

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Originally by: Lanfear's Bane

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Pirate has to be about the hardest profession in EVE yet it receives the most and worst criticism.

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I mean people still talk about him now and *shock* he dosen't post on the forums.

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Originally by: Malka Badi'a

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I mean people still talk about him now and *shock* he dosen't post on the forums.

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That's because he was banned due to his forums posts.

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Originally by: kessah

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lol steady on my aggrogant friend. now i may not like burn eden for the most part but if you guys didnt fill your low 'completly' *i dont discourage 1 or 2* with warp core stabilizers you'd prolly get the vote. Yes i know your tierd of hearing about it but when you say "the rest are and always have been afriad of your own shadows" it really does give me that 'wow' reaction.

I generally feel if i dont have more than -6 scramble strength in my gang i generally pass you guys by simply becus you will turn tail as soon as your Dampening fails and your taking armour hit your ravens.

I think your corp is very coordinated and quite organised but dont let all them kills go to your head and start feeling that your superior.

Tundragon altho i dislike members, are and it pains me to admit, are honourable and as soon as summin is done in the corp that isnt how the game is really ment to be used they discourage it or kick you. Which if you took a lesson from em then u may get alittle more respect.

Also the history of some of your members is a damn disgrace. Some of you guys have acted worse than Ginger magician or fatballs in your sportsmanship, but again i suppose this is all meaningless if brute effeciant killing using any and all mean nessary to score points then sure if u will you guys are it...

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Originally by: Malka Badi'a

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I've always pictured Burn Eden as the "Ginger Magician" of corporations. It's only fair they get nominated too.

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Originally by: SATAN

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Speaking of stabs, just recently we ran accross maybe 10 of you with 4 of us. As usuall in 0.0 you guys wont dare bring anything bigger than a cruiser, but the one cruiser we got -2 on still warped away. We may or may not use stabs, but we NEVER use stabs on through away ships.

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Originally by: Lanfear's Bane

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Originally by: velocoraptor

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Still I guess his does have a lot of kills under his belt (not from belt piracy though).

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Ever tried to belt hunt? Typical hunt goes like this:

1) I enter system - there are 9 other people.
2) I find a suitable scanning point and warp to it.
3) I arrive at my scanning point. There are now 7 other people in local.
4) I scan the area and locate 1 person. I do some quick warps and narrow down their position. There are now 4 people in local. The person I have found is at a gate. They leave.
5) I am now in local with 3 other people. 1 is missioning and 2 are docked. 1:30 minutes elapsed total.
6) I give up and put a sniper setup on.

Getting belt kills in a 'pirate' fashion. IE not against other pirates or huge blob squads is hard and boring work.

Pirate has to be about the hardest profession in EVE yet it receives the most and worst criticism. We have to suffer consant abuse in local, convos and EVEmail. We have no 'reliable' source of income. We can't go into high sec. Anyone can shoot us anywhere. We get flagged. Ships and modules can be a pain to aquire. We have this all on our backs and carry it for you yet we have the rest of the community standing over us smacking us with sticks. Be nice to a pirate for a change.

People are awfully quick to preach about what they don't know / understand.

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Lanfear's Bane.

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Originally by: velocoraptor

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Originally by: Lanfear's Bane

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Originally by: velocoraptor

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Still I guess his does have a lot of kills under his belt (not from belt piracy though).

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Ever tried to belt hunt? Typical hunt goes like this:

1) I enter system - there are 9 other people.
2) I find a suitable scanning point and warp to it.
3) I arrive at my scanning point. There are now 7 other people in local.
4) I scan the area and locate 1 person. I do some quick warps and narrow down their position. There are now 4 people in local. The person I have found is at a gate. They leave.
5) I am now in local with 3 other people. 1 is missioning and 2 are docked. 1:30 minutes elapsed total.
6) I give up and put a sniper setup on.

Getting belt kills in a 'pirate' fashion. IE not against other pirates or huge blob squads is hard and boring work.

Pirate has to be about the hardest profession in EVE yet it receives the most and worst criticism. We have to suffer consant abuse in local, convos and EVEmail. We have no 'reliable' source of income. We can't go into high sec. Anyone can shoot us anywhere. We get flagged. Ships and modules can be a pain to aquire. We have this all on our backs and carry it for you yet we have the rest of the community standing over us smacking us with sticks. Be nice to a pirate for a change.

People are awfully quick to preach about what they don't know / understand.

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Lanfear's Bane.

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Yes lanfear's bane, I have belt-hunted quite a few times, though trying to find pirates, not miners to kill. I know the drill with scanning etc and yes it can be annoying and boring sometimes.
Still, i firmly believe that piracy in general is much easier than anti-piracy. At least when trying to kill prats you are up against a fighting fitted ship, even when blobing them. A massive gate camp killing an indy (or a sniper doing the same) is easier imho.

Now, I don't say I'm a big bad pirate hunter (usually i'm just trying miserably to help some friends when i Π-hunt, but you Do try it too and let me know what you think.

So, i think u're right, "people are awfully quick to preach about what they don't know / understand"

And honestly, what you expect being a pirate? lub? cookie?
I have nothing (xcept rp issues perhaps) against pirates per se, I just can't stand the pirate+whinner combination *cough* ginger *cough* (just kidding gingy, plllllssssss don't hunt me down and kill me repeatedly like the dog I am).

Don't pirate if u think it's too hard. Mine some veld or something, u'll find it's easier and maybe even less boring than belt-hunting

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Originally by: Necrologic

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I only know of a couple real anti pirates. Most of the ones i've seen are wannabe's, smacktalkers, noobs, loggers, login trappers, etc.

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Lets end this discussion - it cannot be found out who is the biggest pirate. Some players have a RL and play less, others more and that¦s why they have more kills. Some play 3 years, some less longer, some do 0.0 piracy, some low sec piracy, some do ransom, others not. No way to find out who is TEH WINNER! EVE isn¯t meant to have winners because it¦s a MMOG and DEVs allways balance the game in a way to nerf winners and to help loosers. CCP want¦s to make $$$.

What i know is that the pirate corps that are still active are all very good corps that where able to adapt and survive till now. I¦ve hunted with 4Life (Zombie leader), with Tank (Jumpin-camping, when i was in Biomass), Hupa (in the Fade assault), Xpohoc (my CEO), Tenacha (my UK english teacher), Axel (my favorite gunship pilot), Frankinator (he hates me), Zarquon B (hates me too), much others and all the guys that are still in TDG. Also know those of battles: I shot down Joker and m0o pilots and so did they when they could do with us. Fighted Biomass, Mafia and ASS. Never fighted SNIGGS (because i dont mine in belts and am no target for belt rats) - i know them all and i can state: all these players are good at what they do.

Pray carebears that these people will never fit to each other, because if they would, they would set EVE into flames! A corp with this members would destroy anything and beat the $hit out of all the so called PVPers in alliances. They have the instinkt and the unstopable will to kill other players - pray that they stay in their small corps or inactive or alliance leaders or whatever they do now and pray they never merge into one team...

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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri

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Originally by: Malka Badi'a

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I've always pictured Burn Eden as the "Ginger Magician" of corporations. It's only fair they get nominated too.

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Heh that's pretty funny but yet somewhat not the same. BE does have skill in a lot of good areas. Least from my opinion that is. Yet there ego's heh yeah. Why have it to begin with. Be so much more better if ginger and or BE just be cool and not act like it matters "Im Uber *slobbering on self* and I made you flee last night *slobbering more on self* so who are you again *mom walks in*?"

Originally by: SATAN

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Speaking of stabs, just recently we ran accross maybe 10 of you with 4 of us. As usuall in 0.0 you guys wont dare bring anything bigger than a cruiser, but the one cruiser we got -2 on still warped away. We may or may not use stabs, but we NEVER use stabs on through away ships.

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10 vs 4. If I had 4 decent BS pilots. I would do that too. If we had warp core stabs. I think I would do that even more. Hell I would engage more than 10 if I had BS weaponry going for me. Pick a few off then warp out. You know the typical tactics to weaken your opponents. Does that mean anything really? Nope... If It was 10 cruisers and I was one of them. Would I fear 4 BE BS's? Nope... Are they good threat? Yeah of course there in battleships prob running good EW setups and warp core stabs. Do I want to be on a BE gank flick of how you guys think it's mad skill to gank a few here and flee? Nope not really. Would I be glad I escaped -2 strength. Yeah of course, don't you? Does the ship really matter if I lost it? Nope... My pod does though. My life being taken by a BE pilot does. I think that's why you fit stabs on your battleships. Don't act like your battleship builds really cost that much. Anyone seen the battleship prices compared to elite cruiser prices latly? I wouldn't care about losing my Raven. More of losing my pod or losing period. That's the reason you fit stabs. It's not the ISK lost. It's the honor/ego loss. Don't try to twist it around SATAN. =)

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Lets end this discussion - it cannot be found out who is the biggest pirate. Some players have a RL and play less, others more and that¦s why they have more kills. Some play 3 years, some less longer, some do 0.0 piracy, some low sec piracy, some do ransom, others not. No way to find out who is TEH WINNER! EVE isn¯t meant to have winners because it¦s a MMOG and DEVs allways balance the game in a way to nerf winners and to help loosers. CCP want¦s to make $$$.

What i know is that the pirate corps that are still active are all very good corps that where able to adapt and survive till now. I¦ve hunted with 4Life (Zombie leader), with Tank (Jumpin-camping, when i was in Biomass), Hupa (in the Fade assault), Xpohoc (my CEO), Tenacha (my UK english teacher), Axel (my favorite gunship pilot), Frankinator (he hates me), Zarquon B (hates me too), much others and all the guys that are still in TDG. Also know those of battles: I shot down Joker and m0o pilots and so did they when they could do with us. Fighted Biomass, Mafia and ASS. Never fighted SNIGGS (because i dont mine in belts and am no target for belt rats) - i know them all and i can state: all these players are good at what they do.

Pray carebears that these people will never fit to each other, because if they would, they would set EVE into flames! A corp with this members would destroy anything and beat the $hit out of all the so called PVPers in alliances. They have the instinkt and the unstopable will to kill other players - pray that they stay in their small corps or inactive or alliance leaders or whatever they do now and pray they never merge into one team...

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Originally by: GoGo Yubari

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My inspiration back in my youthful pirate days came from the people who made up the original gangster groups like Jokers and Space Invaders, to name the oldest and biggest.

But Eve is constantly evolving and other guys step out, while others come to the front .. almost every month it seems there's a new hot pirate crew making the rounds. I also think it is becoming more difficult to earn your place in the hall of infamy, with so many more out there trying.

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Originally by: Lifewire

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I don¦t have that many kills - but my corp has
We are teamplayers and i don¦t care much being not killer no. 1. I know what TDG is: the last original pirate corp in EVE. That¦s enough for me to feel like a winner

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Originally by: Zysco

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Edited by: Zysco on 01/03/2006 06:58:05
This is insane. I agree with everything famine has said, on every issue, in ever one of his posts in this thread. I must be crazy.

Going by "volume of kills" the best solo pirate is prolly painball, as hes solo killed prolly 50 BS, although he actually sucks skillwise. Ryan Routine is pretty nuts too, but hes not technically a pirate anymore. Axel was also insane. But the best solo pirate in eve is dirtball.

The best gang of pirates is Callonious, Hellspawn, and Crusher.

PS Is it just me or does every post by a pirate coalition member (besides mafia, some of whom are decent) just make you "lol"?

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Originally by: Necrologic

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Originally by: Zysco

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Edited by: Zysco on 01/03/2006 06:58:05
This is insane. I agree with everything famine has said, on every issue, in ever one of his posts in this thread. I must be crazy.

Going by "volume of kills" the best solo pirate is prolly painball, as hes solo killed prolly 50 BS, although he actually sucks skillwise. Ryan Routine is pretty nuts too, but hes not technically a pirate anymore. Axel was also insane. But the best solo pirate in eve is dirtball.

The best gang of pirates is Callonious, Hellspawn, and Crusher.

PS Is it just me or does every post by a pirate coalition member (besides mafia, some of whom are decent) just make you "lol"?

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I know many people who have more than 50 solo bs kills.

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Originally by: Malka Badi'a

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Only kills count...

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That doesn't even make sense. Someone can post all the kills in the world and still be a horrible pirate, such as a multi-kill covetor hunter against single-kill dreadnought. Killmails can be faked and are often a bad representation of what actually occured in battle.

Piracy and murder isn't about your kills, but your presence. Ginger is someone who has quite a few kills under his belt but is generally taken with a muffled laugh due to his attitude, style, and battle philosophy. Others like Verone and Tank CEO are both well known because of their tactics, personalities, style, and contributions back to the community. There is much more to EVE than the killmails, especially when numbers don't equal actual skill. Gate camping is a peice of cake, but I have more respect for belt hunters due to additional pilot skill required.

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Lets end this discussion - it cannot be found out who is the biggest pirate. Some players have a RL and play less, others more and that¦s why they have more kills. Some play 3 years, some less longer, some do 0.0 piracy, some low sec piracy, some do ransom, others not. No way to find out who is TEH WINNER! EVE isn¯t meant to have winners because it¦s a MMOG and DEVs allways balance the game in a way to nerf winners and to help loosers. CCP want¦s to make $$$.

What i know is that the pirate corps that are still active are all very good corps that where able to adapt and survive till now. I¦ve hunted with 4Life (Zombie leader), with Tank (Jumpin-camping, when i was in Biomass), Hupa (in the Fade assault), Xpohoc (my CEO), Tenacha (my UK english teacher), Axel (my favorite gunship pilot), Frankinator (he hates me), Zarquon B (hates me too), much others and all the guys that are still in TDG. Also know those of battles: I shot down Joker and m0o pilots and so did they when they could do with us. Fighted Biomass, Mafia and ASS. Never fighted SNIGGS (because i dont mine in belts and am no target for belt rats) - i know them all and i can state: all these players are good at what they do.

Pray carebears that these people will never fit to each other, because if they would, they would set EVE into flames! A corp with this members would destroy anything and beat the $hit out of all the so called PVPers in alliances. They have the instinkt and the unstopable will to kill other players - pray that they stay in their small corps or inactive or alliance leaders or whatever they do now and pray they never merge into one team...

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Originally by: Ginger Magician

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There is no way that guy Painball has 250 solo bs kills.I have never even heard of him.
If you can prove that then he is undoubtedly the best pvper in eve or the luckiest, one or the other.

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0w9 m4aT 4app3n2ed..

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Originally by: Lifewire

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BTW: i am pretty sure that people like Tank have enough kills to be on the winner side

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Originally by: Lanfear's Bane

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This picture makes me the 'biggest' pirate.

Arrrrrrr.

Lanfear's Bane.

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Originally by: SATAN

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The point was not that they ran, after all they had cruisers/ceptors. It was that they fit at least 2 stabs on a cruiser, and have the nerve to say something about our BS's wearing stabs.

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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri

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Originally by: SATAN

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The point was not that they ran, after all they had cruisers/ceptors. It was that they fit at least 2 stabs on a cruiser, and have the nerve to say something about our BS's wearing stabs.

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Why do you fit stabs on your Raven? Not to save the cost of the ship. Don't act like you fear the isk sink of losing your Raven. Frigates can catch cruisers in a split second. Why wouldn't you fit stabs on a cruiser? They're not invuln to anything. They're much easier to kill than a Raven with stabs. Remember it's not about fitting stabs to save isk from the isk sink of a Maller or something. It's about getting ganked and losing your pod as well pride. The same reasons you fit on a Raven silly.

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Originally by: Famine Aligher'ri

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Originally by: SATAN

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The point was not that they ran, after all they had cruisers/ceptors. It was that they fit at least 2 stabs on a cruiser, and have the nerve to say something about our BS's wearing stabs.

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Why do you fit stabs on your Raven? Not to save the cost of the ship. Don't act like you fear the isk sink of losing your Raven. Frigates can catch cruisers in a split second. Why wouldn't you fit stabs on a cruiser? They're not invuln to anything. They're much easier to kill than a Raven with stabs. Remember it's not about fitting stabs to save isk from the isk sink of a Maller or something. It's about getting ganked and losing your pod as well pride. The same reasons you fit on a Raven silly.

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Originally by: Ginger Magician

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There is no way that guy Painball has 250 solo bs kills.I have never even heard of him.
If you can prove that then he is undoubtedly the best pvper in eve or the luckiest, one or the other.

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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 01/03/2006 19:27:21

Originally by: Ginger Magician

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There is no way that guy Painball has 250 solo bs kills.I have never even heard of him.
If you can prove that then he is undoubtedly the best pvper in eve or the luckiest, one or the other.

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I'm sure he's close to that. All he used to do was run around the outer fringe of 0.0 and kill alliance miners/npc'ers in his vagabond. I bumped into him out in ASCN space one night and we teamed up for some double vagabondage...and we got plenty of bs kills just that one night. If he does that every night, he'd easily get up to 250 bs kills. The funny part is that he doesn't even bother picking up most of the loot...

Shamis

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Originally by: Androclese

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Most of you are known only because of your forum whoring and your continual sycophantic name dropping. I'd be more impressed if the carebear population which I am part of named you in this thread!

That statement refers to the majority of you not all though. LOL at Ginger who said that people who haven't posted or been mentioned here are not in this catagory. I know plenty of low sec pirates who have both podded me and loads of others for that matter, successfully ransomed and extorted money out of players like myself but dont post here at all.

Sure most of you know each other not because you have worked or indeed shot at each other but because you spank each others monkeys all the time saying how good you are in this forum.

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Originally by: Lifewire

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Lets end this discussion - it cannot be found out who is the biggest pirate. Some players have a RL and play less, others more and that¦s why they have more kills. Some play 3 years, some less longer, some do 0.0 piracy, some low sec piracy, some do ransom, others not. No way to find out who is TEH WINNER! EVE isn¯t meant to have winners because it¦s a MMOG and DEVs allways balance the game in a way to nerf winners and to help loosers. CCP want¦s to make $$$.

What i know is that the pirate corps that are still active are all very good corps that where able to adapt and survive till now. I¦ve hunted with 4Life (Zombie leader), with Tank (Jumpin-camping, when i was in Biomass), Hupa (in the Fade assault), Xpohoc (my CEO), Tenacha (my UK english teacher), Axel (my favorite gunship pilot), Frankinator (he hates me), Zarquon B (hates me too), much others and all the guys that are still in TDG. Also know those of battles: I shot down Joker and m0o pilots and so did they when they could do with us. Fighted Biomass, Mafia and ASS. Never fighted SNIGGS (because i dont mine in belts and am no target for belt rats) - i know them all and i can state: all these players are good at what they do.

Pray carebears that these people will never fit to each other, because if they would, they would set EVE into flames! A corp with this members would destroy anything and beat the $hit out of all the so called PVPers in alliances. They have the instinkt and the unstopable will to kill other players - pray that they stay in their small corps or inactive or alliance leaders or whatever they do now and pray they never merge into one team...

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Originally by: Zysco

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Yeah, well when you have a vaga bpo and get free vagas I guess you dont really need loot. Hes a perfect example of a "pirate" who gets tons of kills, but generally sucks. He has prolly lost close to 40-50 vagas, and all of his kills are mining/npcers. But still, props on all those solo kills.

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Originally by: Ginger Magician

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There is no way that guy Painball has 250 solo bs kills.I have never even heard of him.
If you can prove that then he is undoubtedly the best pvper in eve or the luckiest, one or the other.

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HE FLAMED US FOR WEARING STABS, WHILE HIS CORP WEARS MORE OF THEM.

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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz

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Originally by: Zysco

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Yeah, well when you have a vaga bpo and get free vagas I guess you dont really need loot. Hes a perfect example of a "pirate" who gets tons of kills, but generally sucks. He has prolly lost close to 40-50 vagas, and all of his kills are mining/npcers. But still, props on all those solo kills.

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He may not be the best, but he's 10x more skilled than the average sniper. Having a vagabond bpo probably causes him to take more risks than most, which would explain all the losses. Flying solo in 0.0 in a vaga can be dangerous. In order for me to make it profitable I had to stay consciously focused on getting kills, getting loot and getting out. If you don't care about the loot, and you don't even really care if you make a profit, then the losses would come quickly.

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Originally by: Ginger Magician

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Edited by: Ginger Magician on 01/03/2006 21:25:33
Well if tbats true I'm surprised I must say.I know there are some easy kills to be had in 0.0 but 250 solo is pretty impressive nevertheless.The loss of 50 vagabonds at 100mill each is less so however.Just been checkign him out on battleclinic
http://www.battleclinic.com/eve_online/pk/view.php?type=player&name=PainBall
A good record but the 250 is somewhat of an exageration I would say.32 tech 2 cruisers confirmed as lost.A good number of bs kills but certainly not all solo.However it is certainly a record making him worthy of menetion on this thread.

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Originally by: Ginger Magician

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Edited by: Ginger Magician on 01/03/2006 22:07:52
Maybe not but no killboard contains complete records.I was merely extrapolating from the stats contained therein.If u look up the records of those proposed as the biggest pirates here it gives u a general idea of their overall record.My record on this killboard is far from complete and its the one I use atm.Actually i have more than 1000kills still to be posted.Killing so many noobs creates a lot of paperwork

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Originally by: themule

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Originally by: Ginger Magician

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Edited by: Ginger Magician on 01/03/2006 22:07:52
Maybe not but no killboard contains complete records.I was merely extrapolating from the stats contained therein.If u look up the records of those proposed as the biggest pirates here it gives u a general idea of their overall record.My record on this killboard is far from complete and its the one I use atm.Actually i have more than 1000kills still to be posted.Killing so many noobs creates a lot of paperwork

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Ginger your eve-mail box wont store that many...

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Originally by: Tenacha Khan

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Originally by: themule

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Ginger your eve-mail box wont store that many...

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Is the cut off 1000 or something, as I had 900 or so. Get a few, think ah, I will add them tomorrow, then it just drags on and on till you say **** it, delete

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Originally by: Ginger Magician

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Don't question the word of Gods little boy.My current mails from Concord stands at well over 1000 I can assure u.While I may be guilty of boasting/ego boosting etc etc I never lie about facts.

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Originally by: Malka Badi'a

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I've always pictured Burn Eden as the "Ginger Magician" of corporations. It's only fair they get nominated too.

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Originally by: DigitalCommunist

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Piracy is what exactly? You're asking for the biggest pirate when there could be up to a dozen different definitions of what constitutes a pirate in EVE and what doesn't. Piracy is not a real profession, its something the players came up with. You can't go on the market and buy skills/modules to become a true pirate.

So being a pirate is not much different from being a PVPer with nbsi ruleset. The only difference is you lose security status, and maybe ransoms are involved. But that implies corps like DNA are not pirates, because they operate in Syndicate? Or does that imply you're not a pirate if you don't bother with ransoms? Or maybe piracy is all about earning isk from people's death, which makes suiciding pests in Jita the biggest pirates ever, or the tech 2 bpo profiteers who revel in 200mil HAC prices.

Piracy is image, and the biggest pirate is the one that can retain this image throughout the billion nerfs and game mechanic changes that manage to weed out the wannabes. That doesn't mean you have the best pirate labelled. As pointed out a lot of that image gets built up from forum whoring, or for doing something ridiculously easy two years ago, like sitting at a JIP or camping an empire chokepoint, or abusing broken mechanics to annoy people.

The best pirate is also the best pvper, because he is the one you can't kill, and that has nothing to do with the above.

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Originally by: Ginger Magician

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Edited by: Ginger Magician on 01/03/2006 22:07:52
Maybe not but no killboard contains complete records.I was merely extrapolating from the stats contained therein.If u look up the records of those proposed as the biggest pirates here it gives u a general idea of their overall record.My record on this killboard is far from complete and its the one I use atm.Actually i have more than 1000kills still to be posted.Killing so many noobs creates a lot of paperwork

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Originally by: Zafriel

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you should not post killmails on the forums

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Originally by: Masta Killa

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Originally by: Superbus Maximus

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Back in the day I would give it to Swisher and Borg fusion, but now I dont really know of anyone that spectacular mabey I should get out more often....

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For a so called pirate, swisher sure has lost his npc raven often to my old corp and smacktalked without daring to fight me 1v1 or even 2v1.

I'm not old enough to know much about the Jokers but I do know that Tank was the one of the oldie pirates I knew most of.

As for newer ones, I'd say Ryan Routine was the best one... soloing is ftw no matter what anyone says.
I remember when he was in G while I was in RKK and all the bobbits shook in their boots at the mention of his name and they tracked him almost whereever he went

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Originally by: Zafriel

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you should not post killmails on the forums

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Originally by: swisher

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Made it to the last page..for my comments on the subject..

The best pirate

This as some others agree is very hard to label one person with the title cause there are all styles and defs to a pirate.

From my 3 years ingame...

I would say best well known EVE would be Tank CEO w/ respect.
Personally I would say Borg Fusion who is inactive only to train ...due to RL ....and I know if Borg was posting he would say Tank also.. I know Tank mentored Borg back in the day when Ravens where rare...and thus made borg who he is today ..

But it will always be hard to find the perfect pirate..cause us pirates are from our own breed some came ingame as pirate some like myself came in as a miner...then saw the light of the big picture and did our own thing and did anything we could to make a buck..then evolved into who we are today..

Each pirate has there story...each pirate has there honor or none ..each pirate is different...but you will always find the ones that brag the most arent anything only wishing to be something in eve.

The ones you find elite in the group to be Elite Pirates are the ones with class and style stick to there own play of the game and except nothing less to the ones that try to claim there title or level of respect...cause that only comes with time and kills and class....

As to some of the posts about me...I dont think of myself as the best...I think myself as a pirate and a player that does what he has to without suckering in with 2nd accounts to make my billions or lifestyle in eve. I gank people cause I enjoy it but always try to keep to myself never looking for fame or whatever...But I always respect the people I know oldschoolers back in the day such as Tank CEO and others...


To the noobs that want to be pirates and blah blah about there killz..that fine..we just sit back and laugh..cause who do you think made your way for you to claim ...HEY I"M a pirate with -10 sec...

I'll keep on being in eve as a pirate and doing what I do but in the end its always about yourself your tactics and your play n game...make it your worth and enjoy your path you make...cause one min you might be everything ..next..your solo...will you make something of yourself or attach yourself to a allaince or a name just to get respect..or will you hold your own ..and do what you have to and not care about what anyone else might think... thus every pirate is different and unique.

-swish

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Originally by: tiller

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Originally by: swisher

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Made it to the last page..for my comments on the subject..

The best pirate

This as some others agree is very hard to label one person with the title cause there are all styles and defs to a pirate.

From my 3 years ingame...

I would say best well known EVE would be Tank CEO w/ respect.
Personally I would say Borg Fusion who is inactive only to train ...due to RL ....and I know if Borg was posting he would say Tank also.. I know Tank mentored Borg back in the day when Ravens where rare...and thus made borg who he is today ..

But it will always be hard to find the perfect pirate..cause us pirates are from our own breed some came ingame as pirate some like myself came in as a miner...then saw the light of the big picture and did our own thing and did anything we could to make a buck..then evolved into who we are today..

Each pirate has there story...each pirate has there honor or none ..each pirate is different...but you will always find the ones that brag the most arent anything only wishing to be something in eve.

The ones you find elite in the group to be Elite Pirates are the ones with class and style stick to there own play of the game and except nothing less to the ones that try to claim there title or level of respect...cause that only comes with time and kills and class....

As to some of the posts about me...I dont think of myself as the best...I think myself as a pirate and a player that does what he has to without suckering in with 2nd accounts to make my billions or lifestyle in eve. I gank people cause I enjoy it but always try to keep to myself never looking for fame or whatever...But I always respect the people I know oldschoolers back in the day such as Tank CEO and others...


To the noobs that want to be pirates and blah blah about there killz..that fine..we just sit back and laugh..cause who do you think made your way for you to claim ...HEY I"M a pirate with -10 sec...

I'll keep on being in eve as a pirate and doing what I do but in the end its always about yourself your tactics and your play n game...make it your worth and enjoy your path you make...cause one min you might be everything ..next..your solo...will you make something of yourself or attach yourself to a allaince or a name just to get respect..or will you hold your own ..and do what you have to and not care about what anyone else might think... thus every pirate is different and unique.

-swish

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well I don't claim to be the best, but imho I'm the first to reach a TRUE -10. If anyone can prove otherwise with a screenshot then of course you are worthy to camp a gate with me anytime.

I suppose this makes me the most ebil, not biggest...

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This is why I hate noobs...first off I didnt calm I was the best....2nd you try to pull my sec currently atm...with a -10...notice when I said -10 was ref to noobs that get -10 and think there the hot stuff....I've been at -10 for over a year before...have to remember...I've been ingame forever...so I think I made my point ..hope you can keep up ..just sit back and dont say anything at all too me unless you have a soild point..or if I know you ..mmmk..makes you look really blunt when you come out with statements you can't back ..

-swish

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Originally by: PainBall

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Edited by: PainBall on 02/03/2006 20:51:32
Well pvp-ing in 0.0 for miners/npc-ers maybe its not so good looked at but at least its better in my opinion then to sit at a gate for inncoent passangers. Thats empire basicly for n00bs passing by and i dont think in 0.0 are few weeks n00bs like u can find in empire ... Anyway 0.0 pvp-ing is really hard now and CCP should do something like eliminating the cloacked person in local cos is boring to travel so many jumps and they jst jump at their pos when they sniff u ... its so annoying. Good thing i hear now they`ll make most dmg dealer gets the mail as well so npc`s wont steal so many kills :) So ginger i maybe look for fame to kill peeps cos i`m not interest in their loot but its jst a game man and frankly i was really depressed beeing blobbed and beeing camped with bubbles and such but i guess thats life ... cruel :P Cya in space and hf at whatever u do! cos thats all this game`s about :)

PS i also like alot ryan routine but man flying a bs its really hard solo cos of the lack of speed so u really have to be patient after getting 1 kill cos of the blobbin` :)

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Originally by: Tyrrant

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As much respect as possible to all piarates. Lately ill admit my pvp skills have been slipping. But thats another story. I have flown with Swish, Borg, and Tank. All 3 are very talented and should be feared. My vote for over all revered and feared name goes to tank. my vote for over all good guy and knows how to kill lots of **** and gets the bigger picture of things goes to swish. But for over all best piarate ive ever known who always looked for a fight and who i would love to fly with again one day if he ever comes back, would have to be Borg Fusion.

No disrespect to anyone else, but Borg is a great guy to talk to, fly with, and hell he will even shoot the sh*t with you after he kills you.

Much love,

Tyrr-

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Originally by: Ginger Magician

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Yes I do kill a lot of noobs when I camp a system I have never denied it.The fact is I pirate because I like the fame and I like to make isk out of it.For around 1200 or more kills I lost one bs.Obviously with the loot that was collected from those kills I have made a substantial profit on this particular camp.I even destroyed another tech 2 bpo while doing it unluckily for me.
Your kill/loss ratio is substantially inferior to mine and u have lost a hell of lot of very expesnive tech 2 cruisers and apparently u dont even collect the loot from your kills.But that is way u prefer to play and I have no objection to it.Like I previously posted every pirate is different and if they are truely successful they can afford to pirate on their own terms.
A lot of pirates come and go from -10 to postive.One test of 'biggest' is longevity.Those who can stay the course and maintain their noteriety and kills for years and successive patches are clearly in that category.

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