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Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.02.27 09:41:00 - [181] 23k players online... must have come from some crap hole. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.02.27 09:41:00 - [182] 23k players online... must have come from some crap hole. ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
Gariuys	Posted - 2006.02.27 09:48:00 - [183] Originally by: GlimmerMan Don't be such a big baby Mac Knife, if that happened to me I'd just laugh at how pitiful Mr ***** is and get on with my life. If you can't handle a little name calling you're every bit as immature as he is. Most people learn to deal with name calling at a very early age. Repeat after me: Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me! Bull**, mental abuse causes more permanent damage then physical abuse in most cases. And most of the damage from physical abuse is it's mental effect. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Gariuys	Posted - 2006.02.27 09:48:00 - [184] Originally by: GlimmerMan Don't be such a big baby Mac Knife, if that happened to me I'd just laugh at how pitiful Mr ***** is and get on with my life. If you can't handle a little name calling you're every bit as immature as he is. Most people learn to deal with name calling at a very early age. Repeat after me: Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me! Bull**, mental abuse causes more permanent damage then physical abuse in most cases. And most of the damage from physical abuse is it's mental effect. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
UGWidowmaker	Posted - 2006.02.27 10:01:00 - [185] if that is smack i sugest u go deeper in space, cause that aint even close to smack... lol.... ive been threatend in rl on some ocasions.. now thst is bad.. not ingame chat. thats just some part of the game and its quite funneh to see it.. I will make u into biosource...
Rells	Posted - 2006.02.27 10:12:00 - [186] Edited by: Rells on 27/02/2006 10:12:52 The sad part is that Im NOT shocked by that stuff anymore. Eve GMs are mostly MIA and non-responsive.But even if they werent, its nto a good statment on society that we produce people like this now. Smack talking is bloody stupid. -- Rells ◄ Replacing Local with a practical alternative.
James Lyrus	Posted - 2006.02.27 10:14:00 - [187] Edited by: James Lyrus on 27/02/2006 10:15:01 Obscenities have no place in EVE. Heckling in local, I'm prepared to tolerate. The odd swear word when you lose a ship is fair enough. (Although that's not quite what the rules say, I'm not going to petition it :)). Abuse of that kind though, is out of line. EVE seems to be mostly adult, but that doesn't change the fact that this is a game of all ages. Nasty stuff like that isn't needed, and spoils the game for almost all concerned. Especially on 'public' channels. (Again, I'm more tolerant in private ones, but appreciate that GMs might not be :)). Petition it is the way to go, and ... well if it's a repeated offense, then EVE is better off without. Edit: And for what it's worth, that's _not_ common. -- We are recruiting We sell carriers.
Sam Spacey	Posted - 2006.02.27 10:14:00 - [188] I had some idiot threaten to come up from GANG "Star" Bristol to shoot me over an eve shooting. He was an idiot in game and sounds like an idiot out of game. IT'S A GAME. Let me repeat this for the CHAV inclined in UK. I T I S A G A M E. Some people are such losers, be it in a game it probably reflect's in real life as well.
Kryss Darkdust	Posted - 2006.02.27 10:17:00 - [189] Originally by: Grimwalius d'Antan Edited by: Grimwalius d''Antan on 27/02/2006 09:08:53 Originally by: Kryss Darkdust [...]In fact Grief Players, Bored Players and A-Hole players are the only ones who find any use for Jump Gate camping near noobie zones because they are the only ones without vision or purpose in the game outside of killing players that pose no challenge to them. I don't wanna go offtopic, but this remark is somewhat deluded. The "newbie" systems also tend to be the ones with the most people and most commerce (Jita, Oursulaert). Camping anywhere near high population zones is smarter than sitting somewhere you will only find a handful of people in one day. Alot of people try and blend in with the crowd when they move valuable stuff, hoping that people will think they are insignificant newbies. Even more so: Newbies tend to run around with named mods they don't understand the value of! When I was a carebearing newbie with no understanding how dangerous my low sec home potentially was, I was running around using a Local hull expander worth over 50 mil at the time, not knowing I had such a prized posession on my hands. I remember someone telling us he PVPed in a Kestrel with an officer module fitted, unaware of it's value because he was a newbie. On the subject of smacktalking: I've been smacked recently without provocation, the people who smacked me were just pubertal morons. It made me sad, because I realized that people like them may very well have confirmed people's prejudices about the 0.0 population and piracy. Also, the things they said were so horrible I wouldn't wish anyone to have to listen to that crap. A corp mate forced them to write an apology though, which I recieved shortly after (threats of war decs ftw). You know Grim you sound like a legit player but the problem is that your the exception not the rule. The large majority of pirates in this game fall into one of the three categories I mentioned. In fact to date I have never been killed by a legit player and I've been killed at least 15 times. Every single time I contact them to ask them hey how come you killed me I get a response like "Cause your a F or cause your mama is a W**". No one has ever role-played, no one has ever told me.. Hey cause I'm a pirate!! . No respect at all, no in game context and absolutly no purpose other then simple grief, boredom or just being a play A hole. When I return to the system with a friend who might pose even the slightest challenge, while offering far better loot then I could, they run, always. The point here is that Eve suffers from many of the problems associated with Full PvP games. For one it attracts a bad element of people (notice I didn't say players), just down right bad human beings. Secondly it brings out a lot of anger and frustration in people and until PvE games, they actually have a person they can vent to. Again PvP players tend to be immature and that's why in this game you can expect to get cursed out with all manner of profanity on a daily basis, immature people just don't have any self control. Third there is very little roleplaying or in game conversation, for the most part the theme of the game, storyline, the whole world as a whole is irrelevant to everyone, its simply about the mechanics. What is the best ship, best weapon, best skills to have to be able to have the biggest advantage over other players in a fight. Besides piracy should be a very small part in this game, there is soo much that is possible with Corporations, Manufacturing system, mining.. etc.. yet Piracy is the focus of most of the guilds and they do very little else.
Tas Devil	Posted - 2006.02.27 10:24:00 - [190] Such animals as the OP describe in this thread can be encountered mainly in low sec... AUNENEN is the closest zoo near empire space where you will find a full collection of such animals... from the nature of the quotes I'm pretty sure this was the regular aunenen animals you are referring to. Petition it ... but frankly lets get real ... if there are idiots in RL you'll find them in Eve too... its not worth getting miffed over this ... ignoring them is the best thing you can do as most of these players seek recognition and acceptance one way or another ... The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to TheKiller8 for this :)

Esaam DeVries	Posted - 2006.02.27 10:41:00 - [191] Originally by: Mac Knife ... I agree with you. You can read some sad things from local those days. And it often comes from the same immature people. Some level of swearing is ok but I have some screenshots with local chats on them that could make Howard Stern cry... But eventually, people get tired of hearing those kids and after a while, they are basically told to STFU by the whole galaxy. There is a thin red line between swearing and vulgarity (and verbal agression) and it tends to be crossed far more too often those days. --
Valen L'eganas	Posted - 2006.02.27 10:57:00 - [192] @ Kryss Darkdust; All times I got killed by pirates (or a pilot whom we where at war at) I seldome got an un-mature response from the person who killed or podded me. Quite polite now and then, and I had a normal convo with some pirates in the Oldman-Star system. Must have been my luck I guess. Only time I had a guy yell and swear at me, was of my own fault; I accidently killed his ore-can. ---------------------- Homo Sapiens non Urinat in ventum
Simon Illian	Posted - 2006.02.27 11:20:00 - [193] me i'm goind to be fed up of all the racist smack ... yes we are french .. and ... what the point of insult us cause of that ? i will petition and petition it all over the place, if you can't kill use don't smack talk us, if we do'nt fight some times it's maybe you are 300 vs 10 ... hum out of purpose, but yes smack talk ppl about this type of things is nto good for a game. Now i want to know what type of action are taken, for exemple 20 petition about the same ppl send him a warn, a ban ??? what is the effect of our petition, only waste of time for all the ppl ??
Lisa Run	Posted - 2006.02.27 11:22:00 - [194] Edited by: Lisa Run on 27/02/2006 11:22:04 Originally by: GlimmerMan Don't be such a big baby Mac Knife, if that happened to me I'd just laugh at how pitiful Mr ******* is and get on with my life. If you can't handle a little name calling you're every bit as immature as he is. Most people learn to deal with name calling at a very early age. Well, if he thinks it's funny, you can also write your petition and have a laugh. Seriously, I've never petitioned someone, but most of the smack I heard was funny and not so low-level. Perhaps a petition teaches these people that not everything is acceptable. I mean I don't cry if somebody says something like that to me, I'm rather disgusted that such idiots play the game.
Kryss Darkdust	Posted - 2006.02.27 11:26:00 - [195] Originally by: Lisa Run Edited by: Lisa Run on 27/02/2006 11:22:04 Originally by: GlimmerMan Don't be such a big baby Mac Knife, if that happened to me I'd just laugh at how pitiful Mr ******* is and get on with my life. If you can't handle a little name calling you're every bit as immature as he is. Most people learn to deal with name calling at a very early age. Well, if he thinks it's funny, you can also write your petition and have a laugh. Seriously, I've never petitioned someone, but most of the smack I heard was funny and not so low-level. Perhaps a petition teaches these people that not everything is acceptable. I mean I don't cry if somebody says something like that to me, I'm rather disgusted that such idiots play the game. I totally agree that Vulgarity like the OP mentioned is completetly unaccetable, but to be frank, cursing and vulgarity aren't acceptable in this game at all as far as I'm concerned, ever... Not trying to be overly sensitive here, but its a game and there is no age limit you never know if your cursing out a 40 year old man or a 13 year old kid. A few very public account cancellation would for the most part put a stop to this type of stuff.
Wanoah	Posted - 2006.02.27 11:49:00 - [196] Those who can, fight. Those who can't, smack. IMO either fight or shut up...preferably both. Some people really don't have a clue what is appropriate. When I'm with my mates, we're all pretty foul-mouthed and abusive to each other, but you automatically tone it down depending on where you are. The same applies to Eve. You can say what you like in private channels like corp chat, but when it comes to public channels like Local, you have to show a little bit of respect for others who are just trying to have fun and play a game. I will petition anyone who is genuinely abusive in a public channel. Either these people learn what is acceptable (how hard can it be?) or they get banned. Barriers - An Eve Novel Interlude out now
Nafri	Posted - 2006.02.27 11:55:00 - [197] petiton
Alexis DeTocqueville	Posted - 2006.02.27 12:05:00 - [198] Originally by: Sam Spacey I had some idiot threaten to come up from GANG "Star" Bristol to shoot me over an eve shooting. He was an idiot in game and sounds like an idiot out of game. Tell him you're from America, where the deaths from a single running street gang battle are greater than the annual number of deaths in the U.K.
000Hunter000	Posted - 2006.02.27 12:06:00 - [199] People who are either: a. Immature little brats who shouldn't have access to daddies creditcard. b. People who use the game to feel big and important cause they are whimps and losers in RL. c. Just plain B@st@rds in RL as well. d. All of the above. I never ever call people names ingame, allthough i do sometimes try to get into conversation with them to find out what they were thinking doing something silly like that.
Usul Faust	Posted - 2006.02.27 12:08:00 - [200] Don't petition it. Instead give him a SmackRating (TM) based on his spelling & grammar, originality, offensiveness and number of times he desribes sex acts with your mother. Offer an in-depth analysis of where his smack could be improved, and offer some example scenarios for him to roleplay smacking you. With a little help, we can turn these guys into veritable SMACK GODS.

Usul Faust	Posted - 2006.02.27 12:12:00 - [201] Edited by: Usul Faust on 27/02/2006 12:17:09 Quote: I had some idiot threaten to come up from GANG "Star" Bristol to shoot me over an eve shooting. He was an idiot in game and sounds like an idiot out of game. But he's from Bristol, surely he's suffered enough? EDIT: incidentally, i live near bristol and am more than happy to come and meet anybody that wants to beat me up IRL.
Rellik B00n	Posted - 2006.02.27 12:17:00 - [202] hang on hang on hang, let me get this straight: your corpmates blew this guys BS up then he shouted abuse at you? This is what? A surprise? besides his smacktalk is not really that impressive is it? The whole 'your mom' scenario is done to death and people using that form of abuse are often great fun to wind up as they will bite back if you throw them a line. I honestly dont see what the fuss is about, Ive had everything from death threats to hack threats to extreme abuse in the years ive been internet gaming all of which resulted in nothing at all happening get a petition in and move on imagine how much satisfaction this guy will get if he notices you have spent time making a thread about him?
Gariuys	Posted - 2006.02.27 12:20:00 - [203] Originally by: Rellik B00n hang on hang on hang, let me get this straight: your corpmates blew this guys BS up then he shouted abuse at you? This is what? A surprise? besides his smacktalk is not really that impressive is it? The whole 'your mom' scenario is done to death and people using that form of abuse are often great fun to wind up as they will bite back if you throw them a line. I honestly dont see what the fuss is about, Ive had everything from death threats to hack threats to extreme abuse in the years ive been internet gaming all of which resulted in nothing at all happening get a petition in and move on imagine how much satisfaction this guy will get if he notices you have spent time making a thread about him? It is unaccetable behavior, doesn't matter if nothing happens, and that you've suffered throught it all twenty times over, it does NOT belong in a game, period. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool
Rellik B00n	Posted - 2006.02.27 12:24:00 - [204] it belongs anywhere people are. gg
Laocoon	Posted - 2006.02.27 12:26:00 - [205] Originally by: Gariuys Originally by: GlimmerMan stuff Bull**, mental abuse causes more permanent damage then physical abuse in most cases. And most of the damage from physical abuse is it's mental effect. Personally, i wouldn't take offence. I'd probably reply 'Why thankyou. Have a nce day.' or something, and not petitioned it. Of course, it does not** belong in a game, and whether you take it personally or not is a personal trait. I get the brunt of so much abuse it's untrue, but i just laugh at people and, like GlimmerMan said, just laugh at tehir pitifulness. But no matter how you take it , it is still offencive, and if you want to petition it, then i say go for it. (Not really sure what i was trying to say there but meh ) -------------------------------------------- Channels 'Bar Veto' (IC) & Public Channel 'Veto' for info.
Coconut Joe	Posted - 2006.02.27 12:32:00 - [206] I called a guy a stupid b******d once, but that was simply because he put a medium nos on me and expected me to capitulate there and then and give him 15mil ISK. (I'd never been so offended as someone's noobishness before). However, I never swear at people, and I've been killed dozens of times, and not killed a single person once. I prefer to take the mick out of them, slowly annoy them untill they cant stand me any more. God bless staying in stations, while playing with your other account to pass the time ---- Sneeze and the whole world sneezes with you, fart, and you fart alone.
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.02.27 12:36:00 - [207] Originally by: Coconut Joe I called a guy a stupid b*****d once, but that was simply because he put a medium nos on me and expected me to capitulate there and then and give him 15mil ISK. (I'd never been so offended as someone's noobishness before). However, I never swear at people, and I've been killed dozens of times, and not killed a single person once. I prefer to take the mick out of them, slowly annoy them untill they cant stand me any more. God bless staying in stations, while playing with your other account to pass the time You can say bastard on the forums. -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108! Stop whining about my signature - Wrangler \o/ ~kieron [\"] -Capsicum <3 -eris you wanted colours now you have them :) -eris..again Donuts and cAKe anyone? Jacques' Nikolai can post twice as fast as me, and i'm uber -zhuge liang Uhm, I'm new to this, does this work? clickety* Oveur
Khalii	Posted - 2006.02.27 12:36:00 - [208] Originally by: Da Death I would just ignore it -simple, not one min time I would waste on crap like this petition just wastes my time I disagree. Too many people get away with too much these days because too many other people are willing to 'just ignore' it. Maybe it's too much hassle to do anything about it. Maybe they're just too frightened to challenge or report the behaviour in case there are reprisals. There're a lot of reasons why people 'don't want to get involved'. And each and every reason gives the antisocial/aggressive/obnoxious types one more reason why they think they can do whatever the h.. eck they like. This is 'just a game', it's true. But this is a problem that exists in gameworlds and outside them in the real world. And, as the OP suggested, the abuse received from this kid, who had - as someone else has pointed out - committed an implicit act of aggression by following the OP in low-sec, is not acceptable. The OP's response to that act of aggression was entirely within the mechanics and the spirit of the game. Any attempt by the offender to hide behind "well, it's just a game" as a way to try to excuse this pitiful abuse should not cut any ice here. However the OP and friend choose to deal with this is their choice - but 'ignore it' is an option I wouldn't recommend.
Lyra VX	Posted - 2006.02.27 12:40:00 - [209] I genuinely fail to understand the posters commenting on the "unimpressive" smack the OP posted. When is smack impressive?
Matthew	Posted - 2006.02.27 12:40:00 - [210] Originally by: Rellik B00n Edited by: Rellik B00n on 27/02/2006 12:23:27 hang on hang on hang, let me get this straight: your corpmates blew this guys BS up then he shouted abuse at you? This is what? A surprise? It's not a surprise for him to be unhappy, but there is a great deal of difference between expressing that unhappiness, and the level of crudeness and abuse that we're talking about in this case. After all, put it into context. Eve is just a game, and losing at it doesn't give you the right to behave that badly. Imagine if a footballer shouted these sort of things out in public - would the fact they had lost a match be any sort of excuse for it? Of course not. Originally by: Rellik B00n I honestly dont see what the fuss is about, Ive had everything from death threats to hack threats to extreme abuse in the years ive been internet gaming all of which resulted in nothing at all happening Just because you're willing to put up with it, doesn't mean that other people should have to. ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines.



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