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Zysco	Posted - 2006.03.01 17:50:00 - [211] Originally by: Bazman Originally by: Zysco Originally by: Bazman Real men use Dual 250mm II's tbh, nobody expects to be drilled by railguns when they see a Dominix! :P go watch my vid, d250 II 4tw! I have so many vids yours is probably buried amongst them, If only i could be arsed frapsing my fights too :p New one baz, in the sig, some blasterthron action New vid: "we're back"
Lienzo	Posted - 2006.03.01 18:06:00 - [212] Edited by: Lienzo on 01/03/2006 18:06:44 I dislike screwing around with the guns tbh. What about just giving out another midslot to Mega, Apoc, Tempest, and Raven? When you get right down to it, almost every ship is lacking in mids. They're too essential. Make tactical lows maybe? Otherwise, I think most Mega and Apoc pilots at least would gladly sacrifice a low for another mid.
Zysco	Posted - 2006.03.01 18:29:00 - [213] Originally by: Lienzo Edited by: Lienzo on 01/03/2006 18:06:44 I dislike screwing around with the guns tbh. What about just giving out another midslot to Mega, Apoc, Tempest, and Raven? When you get right down to it, almost every ship is lacking in mids. They're too essential. Make tactical lows maybe? Otherwise, I think most Mega and Apoc pilots at least would gladly sacrifice a low for another mid. Um, so you solution to making a blasterthron better is to make every other bs better as well? Brilliant. New vid: "we're back"
Dreez	Posted - 2006.03.01 20:18:00 - [214] Originally by: Zysco Um, so you solution to making a blasterthron better is to make every other bs better as well? Brilliant. Forgive him, for he know not what he speaks of. Please resize your signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques Current Location: In my Blasterthron chasing TomB with a blowtorch
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.03.01 20:53:00 - [215] Well i use lots of low-cpu modules and have like 3-4 cpu left with -5% cpu implant. So another med. slot would not really help me. I use no guns... i smack to death.
Outa Rileau	Posted - 2006.03.01 21:11:00 - [216] Originally by: Aakron Seriously please just boost the damage of mega blasters so that if you get into range you do the damage you deserve to do They already do Can beat a non-stop boosting raven with no probs...
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.03.01 21:14:00 - [217] o rly? I use no guns... i smack to death.
Zysco	Posted - 2006.03.01 21:21:00 - [218] Originally by: Outa Rileau Originally by: Aakron Seriously please just boost the damage of mega blasters so that if you get into range you do the damage you deserve to do They already do Can beat a non-stop boosting raven with no probs... Lol maybe if he was boosting with a civ booster or was tanked for killing Bloods. New vid: "we're back"
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.03.01 21:27:00 - [219] Edited by: LUKEC on 01/03/2006 21:28:46 Originally by: Zysco Originally by: Outa Rileau Originally by: Aakron Seriously please just boost the damage of mega blasters so that if you get into range you do the damage you deserve to do They already do Can beat a non-stop boosting raven with no probs... Lol maybe if he was boosting with a civ booster or was tanked for killing Bloods. Those are armor tanked :). But taking blasterthron solo into Gurista / serpentis space is just waste of ammo. You probably do better if you fit dual heavy pulses on thron. I use no guns... i smack to death.
Dreez	Posted - 2006.03.01 22:46:00 - [220] Originally by: LUKEC But taking blasterthron solo into Gurista / serpentis space is just waste of ammo. You probably do better if you fit dual heavy pulses on thron. , Im using my blasterthron with 7xion-II against guristas and it works like a charm. You must be doing something wrong then. Please resize your signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques Current Location: In my Blasterthron chasing TomB with a blowtorch
Farjung	Posted - 2006.03.01 23:03:00 - [221] Originally by: Dreez Originally by: LUKEC But taking blasterthron solo into Gurista / serpentis space is just waste of ammo. You probably do better if you fit dual heavy pulses on thron. , Im using my blasterthron with 7xion-II against guristas and it works like a charm. You must be doing something wrong then. LUKEC meant taking a blasterthron to Guristas/serp space to hunt NPCers is a waste, I think. Double kin/therm tanked ravens take an age and a half to kill :[.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2006.03.03 14:51:00 - [222] 5% Large Hybrid Turret Damage per lvl 10% Drone HP per lvl 10% Drone Damage per lvl This is 3 bonuses, two of which are 10%!?! I wonder how the meeting went where the person proposed 10% bonuses for the dominix. I can imagine beer was involved. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Zysco	Posted - 2006.03.03 17:35:00 - [223] Originally by: Imhotep Khem 5% Large Hybrid Turret Damage per lvl 10% Drone HP per lvl 10% Drone Damage per lvl This is 3 bonuses, two of which are 10%!?! I wonder how the meeting went where the person proposed 10% bonuses for the dominix. I can imagine beer was involved. Um... those "10% bonuses" are to replace the previous bonus, and are balanced exactly the same as the previous bonus. New vid: "we're back"
LUKEC	Posted - 2006.03.03 17:37:00 - [224] Originally by: Farjung Originally by: Dreez Originally by: LUKEC But taking blasterthron solo into Gurista / serpentis space is just waste of ammo. You probably do better if you fit dual heavy pulses on thron. , Im using my blasterthron with 7xion-II against guristas and it works like a charm. You must be doing something wrong then. LUKEC meant taking a blasterthron to Guristas/serp space to hunt NPCers is a waste, I think. Double kin/therm tanked ravens take an age and a half to kill :[. That's what i had in mind. I use no guns... i smack to death.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2006.03.04 22:11:00 - [225] Originally by: Zysco Um... those "10% bonuses" are to replace the previous bonus, and are balanced exactly the same as the previous bonus. A lot of changes have gone on to all aspects of the game. Thats no excuse to give one ship 3 bonuses. Besides, an extra drone is hardly as valuable as a stronger drone. ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Zysco	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:35:00 - [226] Edited by: Zysco on 04/03/2006 23:35:03 Originally by: Imhotep Khem Originally by: Zysco Um... those "10% bonuses" are to replace the previous bonus, and are balanced exactly the same as the previous bonus. A lot of changes have gone on to all aspects of the game. Thats no excuse to give one ship 3 bonuses. Besides, an extra drone is hardly as valuable as a stronger drone. Apparently you are a little slow. Pre change: max skills domi has can use 15 drones. Post change: max skills domi can use 5 drones which do the damage of 15 and roughly have the hps of 15. In fact, with bs 4 a domi now does significantly less damage post change than it did prechange. callon > I don't like traveling much, i think its cause my father used to beat me with a globe. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=300438New vid: "we're back
Meridius	Posted - 2006.03.04 23:40:00 - [227] Edited by: Meridius on 04/03/2006 23:40:03 Originally by: Imhotep Khem Originally by: Zysco Um... those "10% bonuses" are to replace the previous bonus, and are balanced exactly the same as the previous bonus. A lot of changes have gone on to all aspects of the game. Thats no excuse to give one ship 3 bonuses. Besides, an extra drone is hardly as valuable as a stronger drone. Comprehension and you don't seem to get along. During the drone balancing changes, the Dominix (and all ships)were nerfed down to 5 drones instead of 15 so to match pre-nerf damage it requires a 10% drone hp/drone damage bonus. If it didn't it would be a horrid piece of ****. _ __
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2006.03.05 00:08:00 - [228] Edited by: Imhotep Khem on 05/03/2006 00:08:59 Unsavvy. 1 drone that does the damage of 5 drones and has the HP of 5 drones is worth more than those 5 drones put together. Pre-patch, those with limited drone skills would always use 1-2 large drones over their damage/HP equivalent in smaller drones. This needs to be accounted for. And saying that dominix does less damage is a joke. Drones do more damage, dominix did not loose any drone damage or HP, thus Dominix does more damage. Have you forgotten about the new skills and the T2 drones? ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
dalman	Posted - 2006.03.05 00:16:00 - [229] Congrats, Imhotep Khem. You are now posting on a subject where you are as wrong as you were with the stacking penatly 24 hours ago. In other words, completely wrong. Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
Taketa De	Posted - 2006.03.05 16:32:00 - [230] Originally by: Zysco Apparently you are a little slow. Pre change: max skills domi has can use 15 drones. Post change: max skills domi can use 5 drones which do the damage of 15 and roughly have the hps of 15. In fact, with bs 4 a domi now does significantly less damage post change than it did prechange. Acutally, the hps are a lot less then 15 equivalent, Drone interfacing gives no HP bouns. --- The Advanced Drone Control Panel.
Sniser	Posted - 2006.03.05 18:10:00 - [231] i cant understand why all ships get 1 damage bonus + 1 utility bonus but some gallente ships get 2 damage bonus + 1 utility. they should get only 10% hp bonus to their drones
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.03.05 18:26:00 - [232] Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 05/03/2006 18:26:22 Only problem I have with Large Blasters is their tracking. I would say increase Large Blasters tracking and replace the Tracking Bonus on the Megathron with a Falloff Bonus, like the Deimos.. "We brake for nobody"
Zysco	Posted - 2006.03.05 18:28:00 - [233] Edited by: Zysco on 05/03/2006 18:32:22 Edited by: Zysco on 05/03/2006 18:29:46 Originally by: Imhotep Khem Edited by: Imhotep Khem on 05/03/2006 00:08:59 Unsavvy. 1 drone that does the damage of 5 drones and has the HP of 5 drones is worth more than those 5 drones put together. Pre-patch, those with limited drone skills would always use 1-2 large drones over their damage/HP equivalent in smaller drones. This needs to be accounted for. And saying that dominix does less damage is a joke. Drones do more damage, dominix did not loose any drone damage or HP, thus Dominix does more damage. Have you forgotten about the new skills and the T2 drones? The new skills dont affect (for heavys) damage besides the t2 drone skill. And seeing that drone skills affect everyone using drones, and not just a dominix, so i dont really see why you are bringing it up? Dominix does pretty much the same damage it did before it got the "2 omgwtf unbalaced 10% bonuses!!!11," while its 5 drones are (overall) weaker hp-wise (thx for correcting me!) than 15. I dont really know if i can put it any simpler for you. Originally by: Sniser i cant understand why all ships get 1 damage bonus + 1 utility bonus but some gallente ships get 2 damage bonus + 1 utility. they should get only 10% hp bonus to their drones Hi, that point has been addressed, read the thread before posting. Let me try all caps as that seems to be the only language some posters understand: THE DOMINIX IS BASICALLY THE SAME AS IT WAS WHEN IT HAD ONLY 2 BONUSES. IT HAS 3 BONUSES BECAUSE 2 OF THOSE BONUSES ARE THERE TO REPLACE THE CHANGED DRONE INTERFACING SKILL AND THE CHANGED DOMI SKILL SO IT CAN STILL EFFECTIVELY WIELD "15" DRONES. callon > I don't like traveling much, i think its cause my father used to beat me with a globe. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=300438New vid: "we're back
Pottsey	Posted - 2006.03.05 18:32:00 - [234] ôi cant understand why all ships get 1 damage bonus + 1 utility bonus but some gallente ships get 2 damage bonus + 1 utility. they should get only 10% hp bonus to their dronesö There is no rule saying ships have to have 2 bonusÆs only and sometimes 3 bonusÆs on 1 ship is fair and compares well to 2 bonusÆs on another ship. You have to look at what the bonusÆs are. That and the Domi had drones taken away from it. The 3rd drone bonusÆs is to make up for taking those 5 to 10 drones away from the drone ship. For comparison it would be like taking away 3 of the Megathron turrets but giving it a 3rd damage bonusÆs. ThatÆs sort of what happened to the Domi. It had its damage output reduce from less drones then a 3rd bonus to boost the damage output. _________________________________________________ Nominate famous people in Eve who had an impact on you.
Zysco	Posted - 2006.03.05 18:34:00 - [235] Originally by: Pottsey For comparison it would be like taking away 3 of the Megathron turrets but giving it a 3rd damage bonusÆs. ThatÆs sort of what happened to the Domi. It had its damage output reduce from less drones then a 3rd bonus to boost the damage output. Great comparison. Its kind of like complaining that the tempest gets 2 damage bonuses while an apoc gets none, so thats unbalanced. callon > I don't like traveling much, i think its cause my father used to beat me with a globe. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=300438New vid: "we're back
Kyguard	Posted - 2006.03.05 18:39:00 - [236] A megathron could beat a dominix, but he'd have to know exactly what he's doing and hope that the domi pilot isn't too experienced or makes a mistake. But generally a megathron won't beat a dominix -\|- Join LFC, become someone, become family.

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