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Phaade The Lonetrek Militia Rapidus Incitus Pactum 115	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:34:00 - [1] - Quote This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts. It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely ****** by it. Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life.
James Tzashi Ministry of War Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:37:00 - [2] - Quote I dont see how its an advantage if your getting buy a guy with 2boxes why didnt you just bring a friend?
Dariusz Betonowy Psychopathic CareBears Hand of Despair 6	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:37:00 - [3] - Quote Eve most likely is "dying" since day one, so I am not worried at all...
ElQuirko Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us 2680	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:40:00 - [4] - Quote Phaade wrote: This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts. It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely ****** by it. Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life. To address the first splurge: No, it's not. To address the second splurge: I have a miracle solution for you. It's called "Neutron Blaster II". It comes in Light, Heavy and Cannon. Go pop some alts, have fun. To address the third splurge: Alternatively you could pay for a new character? Or will mom not let you have more than one account? Dodixie > Hek
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 3343	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:41:00 - [5] - Quote I have a lot of accts, but I don't multi-box much. I just use whatever character suits what I'm doing at the moment. I don't feel that my game suffers in the least that some guy has 15 Retrievers in a belt in my system. In fact, I find it makes a nice target rich environment. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Tul Breetai Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud. 372	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:44:00 - [6] - Quote I only use one account to evict farmers from w-space. That's got to count for something. There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency.
Jered Hakaaros Viziam Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:46:00 - [7] - Quote ElQuirko wrote: [quote=Phaade] To address the third splurge: Alternatively you could pay for a new character? Or will mom not let you have more than one account? Well, there are actually many gamers, me included, that simply do not want to multibox. Its not a matter of ability, just a matter of belief, because it ruins the immersion, and the connection you feel to the game world through your character. It is not at all an uncommon thing. I however disagree that it is ruining the game itself. Sure, its quite immersion-breaking if you find that the three people you were talking to in local are actually the same person. On the other hand, every multiboxer pays a heavy price for his advantage, credit- and time wise. If someone is ready to play like that, I dont see the problem with that.
shadowhearth Eto XYRESIC. 16	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:48:00 - [8] - Quote Such treads reminds of that picture: "Pc gaming successfully dying since 1985" So in EVE spirit: "EVE successfully dying since 2003".
Jarod Garamonde Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 772	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:48:00 - [9] - Quote Phaade wrote: This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts. The game isn't being ruined... just you can't mine. That is the only time a 5-or-more account multiboxer can do anything to your experience. In PvP, it just makes everything more sluggish. And honestly not worth any potential advantages. Phaade wrote: It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely **** by it. Playing an MMO by yourself is like going to an orgy and just jacking off. It's wrong, and honestly, kind of creepy. Phaade wrote:** Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life. CCP condones the practice of having alts. It's not going to change. And honestly, if it keeps giving the Devs their paychecks, so I can keep playing this game... I'm likely not to care one way or the other. I'm sure if I was an ice miner, I'd hate multiboxers.... but, dude.... I'm a pirate. Unaffected. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
ElQuirko Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us 2680	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:49:00 - [10] - Quote Jered Hakaaros wrote: Well, there are actually many gamers, me included, that simply do not want to multibox. Its not a matter of ability, just a matter of belief, because it ruins the immersion, and the connection you feel to the game world through your character. It is not at all an uncommon thing. And I have great respect for those who restrain themselves to just one account. But these players aren't the ones who actively complain about multiboxing and call it "gamebreaking" - those players are in fact the ones who are terminally short of the means or effort to get an alt. Dodixie > Hek
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 778	Posted - 2013.11.28 19:50:00 - [11] - Quote Jered Hakaaros wrote: ElQuirko wrote: [quote=Phaade] To address the third splurge: Alternatively you could pay for a new character? Or will mom not let you have more than one account? Well, there are actually many gamers, me included, that simply do not want to multibox. Its not a matter of ability, just a matter of belief, because it ruins the immersion, and the connection you feel to the game world through your character. It is not at all an uncommon thing. I however disagree that it is ruining the game itself. Sure, its quite immersion-breaking if you find that the three people you were talking to in local are actually the same person. On the other hand, every multiboxer pays a heavy price for his advantage, credit- and time wise. If someone is ready to play like that, I dont see the problem with that. To me, it is always about "everything in EVE has consequence" when so much things can done on an alt to avoid said consequence but in the end, it can't really be controled anyway so meh...
Uma D Uma D Ltd. 33	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:00:00 - [12] - Quote Yeah. let us get rid of all alt accounts.... In the end who cares if half of 0.0 cancels their sub because they are forced to either have their single account stuck in a Mothership /Titan or being able to fly other ships . Who cares when you allways have to rely on other people (which in big alliances is not the big problem of course) to move ships like jumpfreighters and carriers around. Who cares if things like corp infiltration and spying on other corps and alliances completly dies. If you would say ban tools like ISBoxer.. sure nothing against that. But limiting all players to only one account would let some of the most interesting parts of eve completly die and i really doubt that this in any way would have a positive effect on subscriptions.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 12674	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:01:00 - [13] - Quote Phaade wrote: This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box well played good sir 1 Kings 12:11
Jered Hakaaros Viziam Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:04:00 - [14] - Quote ElQuirko wrote: Jered Hakaaros wrote: Well, there are actually many gamers, me included, that simply do not want to multibox. Its not a matter of ability, just a matter of belief, because it ruins the immersion, and the connection you feel to the game world through your character. It is not at all an uncommon thing. And I have great respect for those who restrain themselves to just one account. But these players aren't the ones who actively complain about multiboxing and call it "gamebreaking" - those players are in fact the ones who are terminally short of the means or effort to get an alt. That is very true. I dont feel sorry for those kinds of players either, because even for a solo pilot the universe in its current state (with half of null void of almost any player activity and a lot of WHs deserted) offers multiple easy ways to have an income of at least 2-3B a month with casual play without even belonging to any decent corporation. Complaining about those evil multiboxers however is none of those ways :D Those people just end up in Highsec for the rest of their lives grinding L4s for breadcrumbs.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 12674	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:05:00 - [15] - Quote Phaade wrote: Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life. Seriously though if CCP did ban multi accounts, it probably wouldn't be very long afterwards that EVE died off completely. really man, it's been ten years, This argument was resolved in 2003. Get over it. 1 Kings 12:11
Praetor Meles Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 160	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:06:00 - [16] - Quote Jarod Garamonde wrote: Playing an MMO by yourself is like going to an orgy and just jacking off. It's wrong, and honestly, kind of creepy. +1'ed for this. Got tea up my nose laughing. [insert random rubbish that irritates you personally] is further evidence that Eve is dying/thriving* * delete as required to make your point
flakeys Antwerpse Kerels Fidelas Constans 1626	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:12:00 - [17] - Quote Phaade wrote: This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts. It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely ****** by it. Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life. You do realise that usually the ones with a lot of accounts ARE those that play solo ? We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Ptraci 3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel 1402	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:16:00 - [18] - Quote Phaade wrote: This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts. It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely ****** by it. Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life. Confirming that this is an "EvE is dying" thread. Tell me what advantage I have over you when I pay $105 a month for EvE versus your $15? Surely any in-game "advantages" that I may have need to be averaged out across all of my accounts? Or is the math only allowed to work to support your point and no one else's? I live EVE. I give more money to CCP than you. So pardon me when I say if you feel so strongly that EVE is dying then WoW is that way and I don't even want your stuff...
Phaade The Lonetrek Militia Rapidus Incitus Pactum 115	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:19:00 - [19] - Quote ElQuirko wrote: Phaade wrote: This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts. It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely **** by it. Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life. To address the first splurge: No, it's not. To address the second splurge: I have a miracle solution for you. It's called "Neutron Blaster II". It comes in Light, Heavy and Cannon. Go pop some alts, have fun. To address the third splurge: Alternatively you could pay for a new character? Or will mom not let you have more than one account? Hey someone with clown shoes from why so serious! Not surprising. No, unfortunately i do not have the desire for a game to turn into a cable bill LOL. Also, interestingly enough, 1 person with a neutron blaster cannon II is worse than 2 people with neutron blaster cannon II's! CRAZY AS **. The people with multiple accounts are so easy to spot
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 781	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:28:00 - [20] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Phaade wrote: This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box well played good sir They can still do it with one hand!!! :D
Frostys Virpio Lame Corp Name 781	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:29:00 - [21] - Quote Phaade wrote: The people with multiple accounts are so easy to spot Just like the idiots
Vera Algaert Republic University Minmatar Republic 1131	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:30:00 - [22] - Quote Phaade wrote: The people with multiple accounts are so easy to spot just point at a random EVE player and you'll probably have found one of these dirty scoundrels. CCP does a much better job at selling additional subscriptions to existing players than at getting new players into the game. Killing multiboxing would probably kill EVE at this point. /12chars
Lailyana Enaka Saved Before Death Industries 88	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:34:00 - [23] - Quote puts on tinfoil hat yup EvE is dying, just today i went to jita and there was only 1200 in local. btw can I haz your stuff
Phaade The Lonetrek Militia Rapidus Incitus Pactum 116	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:39:00 - [24] - Quote Ptraci wrote: Phaade wrote: This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts. It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely ****** by it. Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life. Confirming that this is an "EvE is dying" thread. Tell me what advantage I have over you when I pay $105 a month for EvE versus your $15? Surely any in-game "advantages" that I may have need to be averaged out across all of my accounts? Or is the math only allowed to work to support your point and no one else's? I live EVE. I give more money to CCP than you. So pardon me when I say if you feel so strongly that EVE is dying then WoW is that way and I don't even want your stuff... Well, it probably isn't dying due to the niche it fills. However, a lot of things are terribly unbalanced, driving away those of us who play a game solo (how it should be played IMO). 50,000 users online, prob 20,000 are alts. maybe more.
Odithia Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:39:00 - [25] - Quote I too think EVE would have been better if only 1 character per player was ever allowed, however it is too late to come back on that now. Along with more "fairness" it certainly would have ad an effect on anti-social behavior (like corp awoxing) and have generated more player interaction.
Jarod Garamonde Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 774	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:55:00 - [26] - Quote If CCP had ever intended for alt accounts to be against the rules, this would be a fleet-commanding strategy game, not an open, real-time sandbox. That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
Ptraci 3 R Corporation Boarderline Cartel 1403	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:57:00 - [27] - Quote Phaade wrote: However, a lot of things are terribly unbalanced, driving away those of us who play a game solo (how it should be played IMO). 50,000 users online, prob 20,000 are alts. maybe more. How does it drive away solo players? Have you ever multi-boxed PvP? That stuff is NOT EASY. In fact, it's a fantastic way to lose two ships instead of just one. So if you think a multiboxer has an advantage over you - do something unpredictable and chances are you'll throw him off balance and get a couple kill mails. As for multi-boxing for mining, etc, yeah, the m3 I make per hour is very large, but again, you need to average this out per account. Then it works out to exactly what you would make - a little bit more perhaps, because of better organization between hauling and mining, and none of my alts is going to steal my stuff, but not much of an advantage. Remember I pay for 7 subs. So the actual minerals per US dollar paid in subs is exactly what you will get. How is that unfair? You might as well scream that life is unfair because I can afford more than you. Well, that's up to you.
The Spod Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 117	Posted - 2013.11.28 21:28:00 - [28] - Quote EVE would not have survived with only 1 account allowed methinks. The game is too slow paced and boring on single box with the exception of scheming and organizing stuff.
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1179	Posted - 2013.11.28 22:00:00 - [29] - Quote Phaade wrote: This game is single-handedly ruined by those which multi-box 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, etc accounts. It is an almost insurmountable advantage, and those of us who actually like to do things solo are completely ****** by it. Something CCP really should address before Eve dies off completely as it truly ruins the experience for those of us with other things to do in life. The real truth about multiboxing is people do it so they don't have to deal with babies like you. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Toshiro Ozuwara SniggWaffe WAFFLES. 330	Posted - 2013.11.28 22:06:00 - [30] - Quote Level the game for the lowest common denominator. That's a good idea. We teach ruthlessness and hazing. No blues. Kill everything. In-game channel - Join Sniggwaffe

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