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NocturN	Posted - 2003.09.10 23:21:00 - [61] spy or no spy, they still mine till they drop first heheh. Word of advice, you know who your core members are, setup a seperate channel and discuss stuff in there.
NocturN Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2003.09.10 23:21:00 - [62] spy or no spy, they still mine till they drop first heheh. Word of advice, you know who your core members are, setup a seperate channel and discuss stuff in there.
Skillz	Posted - 2003.09.11 01:16:00 - [63] Edited by: Skillz on 11/09/2003 01:20:16 Yes, you don't have to be a member of a corp to snoop their channels. You could be a dev but if you were, you'd propably think that corporations are just b0rk. Keep on flaming, lamers.
Skillz Amarr	Posted - 2003.09.11 01:16:00 - [64] Edited by: Skillz on 11/09/2003 01:20:16 Yes, you don't have to be a member of a corp to snoop their channels. You could be a dev but if you were, you'd propably think that corporations are just b0rk. Keep on flaming, lamers.
Huxan Nerbra Amarr Allied Forces	Posted - 2007.07.20 10:47:00 - [65] Originally by: Sedsiss No spies in Evol. Helps that we don't recruit:P Yes, this actually helps very much.
Stradiot Minmatar Amarryan Nations GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 11:01:00 - [66] it's me..i'm da spy in da op
Grainsalt Free Corp	Posted - 2007.07.20 11:44:00 - [67] Necroooooooooooooooooooooooo!! ---
Lube Myholes Nekkid Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.20 11:46:00 - [68] Originally by: Huxan Nerbra Originally by: Sedsiss No spies in Evol. Helps that we don't recruit:P Yes, this actually helps very much. Win
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.20 12:01:00 - [69] I know that something was wrong, specially when I saw a post from skillz and a mention to Ragnar ibtl --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote: "Players are fine, boost guns"
Cippalippus Primus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 13:07:00 - [70] There are no spies. -dpb
munchy Alcatraz Inc.	Posted - 2007.07.20 13:17:00 - [71] Originally by: Ulstan And I hear they can rob your hangar blind as well and then leave the corp! i hear you can restrict accesses too! but tbh, the op is right imo, spies are a large part of warfare, in eve and otherwise, and you should always take HUGE precautions with assets, and releasing intel. but i think most people already know that =] .... or should do ---
Del Narveux Dukes of Hazard	Posted - 2007.07.20 13:40:00 - [72] A spy in my midst? O SNAP it must be that damn alt of mine again, always up to no good. This post brought to you by our fine sponsors, and the letters I, B, T, and L. (but seriously, necros are usually bad but thats a wicked sick selfown, definitely worth it) _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
Manic Mole VENOM72 Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.07.20 13:47:00 - [73] I lol'd. also ibtl, awesome and BRAAAAAAAAIIIINS!! ---[sig starts here]--- a proud member of Venom72 & Sylph. eveything i say is my personal feeling etc, etc, etc...
Fuglife Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.07.20 13:53:00 - [74] Mmmmm, necro my favourite type of phillia.
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2007.07.20 14:00:00 - [75] Nice to see some of the suggested features are in place, now if we could only get the two man unlocking procedure ingame. Also Known As
Audri Fisher Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.07.20 14:37:00 - [76] Originally by: Revolution Edited by: Revolution on 06/09/2003 04:41:42 I think if you let a spy into your midst and he gets access to your secure forums, it is your responsibiltiy to make sure that no private (ie rl info) is accesable to them or anyone else who has access(I mean wtf, you meet people over the internet for 2 weeks then let them know all your personal details?? yeah right you do...) By putting the private info on your forums, all you are doing is setting up an OOG insurance policy, as people will be hesitant to spy due to fear of legal action, and any caught will be sued. BTW I think this tactic is known as "entrapment" Entrapment is covering up the speed limit sighns with bushes just as it changes from 55 to 35. Putting a radar trolley that shows your speed and the legal limit is not, even though cops know that people tend to speed UP to see how high they can make it go. The seeding forums with private info to deter spying is actually a rather nice idea, nothing like a a jail sentence to deter wannabe spies. The problem with spying in eve is that there is no active counter measures available whatsoever. You simply cannot catch a spy until the damage has been done. This is because of OOG communications channels. I can SS BoB's fleet orders, and email them to the goons, and there is no way BoB can 1: know that they have been had, 2: catch the information, or me. No matter how good the spy, they are worthless unless they can get the pertinent information out.
Mattduk Gallente Universal Army	Posted - 2007.07.20 15:19:00 - [77] Originally by: Fortoye Drak Quote: If a spy sees something on a forum like "ABC corp will attack DEF corp tonight at midnight GMT" that is certainly ingame info. But posting that information publically on another medium is not proper. He can tell it like a source to the president of DEF "Hey, I have reliable information that ABC is going to attack you". But to cut and paste that on the public eve forum for all to see isn't proper in my view. The rest was quite sensibly but this doesnt make sense, other than to back-cover something that TTi has allready objected to on that very basis. ABC corp is either attacking at midnight or it isnt - the wording in the context is irrelvant. To suggest somebody only gives part of the information , and in this case the msot useless part, is, frankly, inane. Its a bout as useful as me telling TTi "Evolution are going to attack you." VERY useful that. The key information IS the timing, your example, Calladen is not a good one at all, indeed it is terrible. The only reason I would want a spy to report is to tell me the time and place, if he just told me "TTi are miffed with BBBB" i'd probably pod him myself then and there. I don't think you understand his example... He didn't mention timing in his example at all. I'll break down what he is getting at. Player X finds out that corp A is going to attack Corp B at H-hour, somewhere. What he is saying is that, armed with that information, it is ok for Player X to go to the CEO of Corp B and tell them, personally, or via an evemail. What he doesn't think is ok is for Player X to post the information, verbatim, for everyone in the world to see on a public forum. There is a difference. Kind regards Mattduk
Mattduk Gallente Universal Army	Posted - 2007.07.20 15:20:00 - [78] Doh! I got necroed! lol /me holds head in shame..
Fabricati Diem Burleigh and Strong	Posted - 2007.07.20 17:41:00 - [79] There is not enough unidentified alt posting in this thread.
MortyM Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.07.20 17:46:00 - [80] lol @ the mods snipping all the 4 year old posts
Belial02 Amarr The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.07.20 18:21:00 - [81] Yeah, but then spying kinda ruins the game as well. Plus they often negate each other. Those plots worthy of the worst Higgins Clark's books are often resulting into such thing as not very 'glorious' titan takedown, thefts, and people waiting for hours just because some cretin coudlnt keep his mouth shut or think its cool to ruin ppls experiences. Thx but no thx. Lets just slaughter each other, to the last, thats why i log on and those old- lady games sicken me. To the OP, that kind of 'spies' are exactly the same as the people you describe ; they take the game to a below 0 level and feel great about it. Wanna get rid of someone? Grab a gun and shoot him dead. Dont just talk about it and how you're beeing evil and cunning and bla bla bla. Damn... Originally by: Omeega diplomacy is f1, f2, f3, really...
Silvestri Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.07.20 18:25:00 - [82] your mom espionaged her way into my pants....damn spy yes...I shot her....no guns though.
Junkie Beverage GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.07.20 19:11:00 - [83] booya
Mimiru Gallente Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.07.20 19:42:00 - [84] Originally by: MortyM lol @ the mods snipping all the 4 year old posts haha OOps. Thread Locked click -Eldo ([email protected]) ---------
Arsicas Dinon	Posted - 2007.07.20 19:48:00 - [85] I think that the most interesting topic associated with corporate spying is when will one of these incidents actually make their way into court. A corporation in EVE may not have a tangible product but neither do service based companies in real life. There is a definite dollar value associated with in game products produced by corporations. ISK can be purchased and therefore has a dollar value assigned to it. Some people's entire income(farmers) is based on this game. If there can be a dollar value associated with the losses that say evolution suffered recently or any other corp theft/spying that has happened before then where exactly is the line drawn? I would think the only reason a court would not hear a current case is because these businesses(corps) do not pay taxes - however wasn't there some stuff with goons and taxes...something or another. It will happen some day - I just hope I am around to see it b/c it should make for an interesting read.

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