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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1538
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Posted - 2013.12.01 01:55:00 -
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Rainbow Dash wrote:Everyone wants sov to be revamped, but no one has a good idea how. Not true this guy from pl has a solid idea on features and ideas... ill link it when I find it There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

Lucine Delacourt
The Covenant of Blood
71
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:00:00 -
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Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:Rainbow Dash wrote:Everyone wants sov to be revamped, but no one has a good idea how. Some have ideas but they would be highly impopular with the current dominating alliances. Null sec needs to be a lively mosaic of smaller blocs warring each other with less juggernaut fleets else it'll forever be an out of scale engagement where power projection makes distances too small, structures need zillions of hit points to withstand gargantuan fleets, servers can't keep up with the ever growing blob sizes.
Most agree with this sentiment. As Malcanis mentioned though, the sentiment is not a solution, it is only a vague direction in which to look for a solution. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1538
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:01:00 -
[33] - Quote
This has the be the most dolid idea so far... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=266270&find=unread There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6535
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:06:00 -
[34] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:That's ******* bullshit. Not really Yes really. EVE Online - An Unstable Game |

Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:30:00 -
[35] - Quote
If it's taxing to release 2 new ships and change a few specs on others, what do you expect.
And they call it an expansion. |

Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1184
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:32:00 -
[36] - Quote
How about the last 2 sides join up and hang out in one system with competitions to see how many times a day they can crash it.
Its the natural last step of what's been happening. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA Apex.
57
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:34:00 -
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Reiisha wrote:Instead of complaining about it, why not offer solutions that could actually work? CCP is just a stumped about it as you guys and are looking for a proper way to do it.
I somehow doubt this. I would guess there is another reason.
If they were stumped, there would be an open call for feedback with a list of their current thoughts.
They have done similar in the past.
Unless of course, they don't have any thoughts. Possible, I suppose. |

Rekon X
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
56
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:37:00 -
[38] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:never sov overhaul
Yea, don't attack us, we'll give you isk. |

Kara Trix
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
38
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:39:00 -
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corporal hicks wrote:Easy way to fix the Sov situation in 0.0 is to have the systems slowly start to increase in security rating as long as they are claimed by the same alliance. .
That idea seems reasonable for all of EVE.
What is a Security Rating anyway, if it doesn't represent the CURRENT state of the system.
If you have a system, say like JITA with loads of battles, why not have it change security status over time. By now JITA would certainly be a LowSec system due to Concord sort of losing their grip trying to control the law.
If NullSec Alliances don't fight (system is calm for a certain period of time), then their systems sec status goes up a .1 along with resources changing, NPC values changing, etc.. If it changes enough, one of the Factions move in to police and it becomes a HS or LS area until changed.
That would at least keep the game dynamic and far less boring.... Yes, this game is both very interesting at times, but incredibly the same most of the time... that's why the forums are so busy, they are more exciting then the game. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3720
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:58:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Who cares about SOV?
Just trespass. CCP is providing a new tool for that, and has already provided a frigate and cruiser to that end.
Don't like it? Stop camping the gate and try warping around a bit. Have you even been to null?
Yes.
But not on terms you would understand.
Hint: the gates and wormholes work even if you are not in an alliance.
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Lunaleil Fournier
StarFleet Enterprises Fatal Ascension
30
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Posted - 2013.12.01 02:59:00 -
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Surely there's things they can do to to lessen the pain on sov players while waiting for someone to design a more perfect system.
Local intel? Getting rid of double reinforcement on structures? Tweaks like that should be looked at for the very short term instead of making players wait yet another year (or 3). |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6543
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Posted - 2013.12.01 05:05:00 -
[42] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Who cares about SOV?
Just trespass. CCP is providing a new tool for that, and has already provided a frigate and cruiser to that end.
Don't like it? Stop camping the gate and try warping around a bit. Have you even been to null? Yes. But not on terms you would understand. Hint: the gates and wormholes work even if you are not in an alliance. Don't presume to know what I would and wouldn't understand. EVE Online - An Unstable Game |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3720
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:18:00 -
[43] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Who cares about SOV?
Just trespass. CCP is providing a new tool for that, and has already provided a frigate and cruiser to that end.
Don't like it? Stop camping the gate and try warping around a bit. Have you even been to null? Yes. But not on terms you would understand. Hint: the gates and wormholes work even if you are not in an alliance. Don't presume to know what I would and wouldn't understand.
Don't presume to know where I have been, or have not, and where I'm going.
Deal? |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6543
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:22:00 -
[44] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Don't presume to know where I have been, or have not, and where I'm going.
Deal? I can though, because it's pretty clear that you have almost no experience with nullsec.
I say almost because I just looked at your killboard and... lol. EVE Online - An Unstable Game |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1732
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:24:00 -
[45] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Don't presume to know where I have been, or have not, and where I'm going.
Deal? I can though, because it's pretty clear that you have almost no experience with nullsec. I say almost because I just looked at your killboard and... lol.
At which point he began bankrolling Harry Forever's misadventures. Well, that and Harry's scamming the already beleaguered victims of the Goons.
I judge a man by the company he keeps. And the first time I ever heard of Herzog is when he was hand in hand with Harry, arguably the biggest idiot and biggest jackass in the last few years of the forums. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
1561
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:37:00 -
[46] - Quote
Why is anyone surprised by this announcement? What did you truly expect? What did you really want?
CCP has built a construct that benefits a tiny amount of players at the top, who enjoy vast income streams, while these same players at the top assure CCP that they will provide subs as the blue blanket grows.
It is a very nice symbiotic relationship, one that benefits both parties quite richly.
So why on earth would you expect CCP to rock the steady gravy train by creating a new null sec environment that might appeal to more people in the long run, while risking a substantial short term drop in subs if the existing null sec construct was dismantled. Business these days, at least in North America, is all about immediate profits, not profits 5 years from now. No CEO thinks "you know, if I do this action, my stock options will take a hit tomorrow, but 5 years from now, long after I have been fired by the board of directors for giving them a loss this past quarter, the company will flourish".
No, it all about immediate gain. And given the vast amount of money we are talking about, the cartel leaders will do their utmost to shut down any dev who as the temerity to threaten these income streams with changes to the null sec construct. Eve, for a certain group of players, evolved past "just a game" a long time ago. And that group will do everything to maintain the status quo, or even enhance their position, like they just did with high sec PoCo's. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
8906
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:37:00 -
[47] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Don't presume to know where I have been, or have not, and where I'm going.
Deal? I can though, because it's pretty clear that you have almost no experience with nullsec. I say almost because I just looked at your killboard and... lol. At which point he began bankrolling Harry Forever's misadventures. Well, that and Harry's scamming the already beleaguered victims of the Goons. I judge a man by the company he keeps. And the first time I ever heard of Herzog is when he was hand in hand with Harry, arguably the biggest idiot and biggest jackass in the last few years of the forums.
Harry Forever, the bane of VFK. We will soon collapse under the strain of cyno frig replacements. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
8906
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:41:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Why is anyone surprised by this announcement? What did you truly expect? What did you really want?
CCP has built a construct that benefits a tiny amount of players at the top, who enjoy vast income streams, while these same players at the top assure CCP that they will provide subs as the blue blanket grows.
It is a very nice symbiotic relationship, one that benefits both parties quite richly.
So why on earth would you expect CCP to rock the steady gravy train by creating a new null sec environment that might appeal to more people in the long run, while risking a substantial short term drop in subs if the existing null sec construct was dismantled. Business these days, at least in North America, is all about immediate profits, not profits 5 years from now. No CEO thinks "you know, if I do this action, my stock options will take a hit tomorrow, but 5 years from now, long after I have been fired by the board of directors for giving them a loss this past quarter, the company will flourish".
No, it all about immediate gain. And given the vast amount of money we are talking about, the cartel leaders will do their utmost to shut down any dev who as the temerity to threaten these income streams with changes to the null sec construct. Eve, for a certain group of players, evolved past "just a game" a long time ago. And that group will do everything to maintain the status quo, or even enhance their position, like they just did with high sec PoCo's.
You post this after every null power block has said the current system sucks and needs to be changed... Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1732
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:43:00 -
[49] - Quote
So, Dinsdale, how do you reconcile that assertion you just made with the fact that the people most loudly pushing for a change in sov are the Goons themselves?
Or do you just ignore that minor inconvenience? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2013.12.01 06:47:00 -
[50] - Quote
we're the space koch brothers npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |

Laserak
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
184
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Posted - 2013.12.01 07:01:00 -
[51] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:So, Dinsdale, how do you reconcile that assertion you just made with the fact that the people most loudly pushing for a change in sov are the Goons themselves?
Or do you just ignore that minor inconvenience?
Fix sov dammit, the current system is pretty terrible. Hitpoint based objectives and timezone issues are my personal pet peeves. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3720
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Posted - 2013.12.01 07:02:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Don't presume to know where I have been, or have not, and where I'm going.
Deal? I can though, because it's pretty clear that you have almost no experience with nullsec. I say almost because I just looked at your killboard and... lol.
Exploration is my main nullsec activity, and that means using intel so I achieve my goal without padding someone else's killboards. You see, not everybody just blobs and engages in stupid ship loss. I care as much for your precious killboard as much as I care for ISK (not much really). I don't have enough Ritalin in my system to obsess over "stats". I enjoy solo exploration and since I am not going to out-tank and out-DPS a 10 to 1 bubble camp I... avoid them.
Since you don't see a lot of losses on my board, you can tell I am pretty good at getting past people who would kill me. Unfortunately the whole concept of the stats is by and for the aspergers crowd who just gotta alpha it over everybody else so my playstyle is not tracked by any means.
So you can continue to cling to red and green and all that and I'm going to be using the new exploration ships in the near future. Maybe you'll see me in local and you'll probably bring some friends and outnumber me, and I'll be cloaked because my goal is to get loot and not engage any hostiles. I'm very good at that. And I am thankful that CCP gives us such a sandbox that I don't have to play the game like this was Modern Warfare. But best of all, I don't have to play it like you.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3721
|
Posted - 2013.12.01 07:15:00 -
[53] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Don't presume to know where I have been, or have not, and where I'm going.
Deal? I can though, because it's pretty clear that you have almost no experience with nullsec. I say almost because I just looked at your killboard and... lol. At which point he began bankrolling Harry Forever's misadventures. Well, that and Harry's scamming the already beleaguered victims of the Goons. I judge a man by the company he keeps. And the first time I ever heard of Herzog is when he was hand in hand with Harry, arguably the biggest idiot and biggest jackass in the last few years of the forums.
Harry's only problem is that's he's a little obsessed with goons - and joining in on a T3 KM already peeled by the very goons he was hunting was a bit much. The entertainment was worth the trouble.
But any endeavor to get people out of highsec in an independent manner I am for, no matter who it comes from. I'm sorry you are too tied up in a kind of statist mentality to grasp this. Free thinkers must really bother you. They do it because they can.
I did have an ulterior motive. I wanted to show people how all those "nerf highsec/people need to go to nullsec" threads that plague us in these forums are a red herring. When someone comes along trying to promote raw "go to nullsec and PVP" ideas, they get shot down by the same people pushing the red herring. Why is that? Because what those endless threads are really all about is racking up cannon fodder. How many in CFC now? Over 35K? If they were independent operators seeking to make nullsec a cauldron of PVP and not some gentrified blue donut, that would be damaging to some individuals who take their lordships a little too seriously. Things are the way they are now because Western society upon which the player base has its core churns out a lot of people who were raised with either a low self esteem or a need to conform (or "betas" in the case of MMOs).
And that's why suggesting people should just go out and roam null and do whatever they hell they want garners almost as much hate as popping highsec Sansha motherships within the hour they appear.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1733
|
Posted - 2013.12.01 07:38:00 -
[54] - Quote
Quote:Harry's only problem is that's he's a little obsessed with goons - and joining in on a T3 KM already peeled by the very goons he was hunting was a bit much. The entertainment was worth the trouble.
No, his primary problem is that he is a barely literate child who gets noticeably butthurt over the slightest disagreement, upon which he throws a hissy fit for all the world to see and laugh at.
Quote:But any endeavor to get people out of highsec in an independent manner I am for, no matter who it comes from. I'm sorry you are too tied up in a kind of statist mentality to grasp this. Free thinkers must really bother you. They do it because they can.
No, not really. You just lost any respect I might have had for you by throwing your lot with the biggest idiot I have ever encountered. I literally have more respect for the people I scam than Harry Forever.
Quote:And that's why suggesting people should just go out and roam null and do whatever they hell they want garners almost as much hate as popping highsec Sansha motherships within the hour they appear.
And I think that's a total fallacy, nevermind hubris. Nullsec isn't afraid of highsec. They have no reason to be. The best highsec can muster is to whelp into a battle hardened CFC gatecamp during a live event. The only thing that keeps highsec existing at all is the unstoppable force of CONCORD. Without it they would be fodder in days.
Furthermore, your statement is demonstrably untrue. The alliance this character is in? We roam null and low on a weekly basis at least, typically daily. No one cares. I do exploration in Stain and Great Wildlands. No one cares.
If people say they're striking a blow for freedom by doing relic sites in Deklein, or killing cyno alts, whatever. To me that's just self important fluffing. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
6545
|
Posted - 2013.12.01 08:29:00 -
[55] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Don't presume to know where I have been, or have not, and where I'm going.
Deal? I can though, because it's pretty clear that you have almost no experience with nullsec. I say almost because I just looked at your killboard and... lol. Exploration is my main nullsec activity, and that means using intel so I achieve my goal without padding someone else's killboards. You see, not everybody just blobs and engages in stupid ship loss. I care as much for your precious killboard as much as I care for ISK (not much really). I don't have enough Ritalin in my system to obsess over "stats". I enjoy solo exploration and since I am not going to out-tank and out-DPS a 10 to 1 bubble camp I... avoid them. Since you don't see a lot of losses on my board, you can tell I am pretty good at getting past people who would kill me. Unfortunately the whole concept of the stats is by and for the aspergers crowd who just gotta alpha it over everybody else so my playstyle is not tracked by any means. So you can continue to cling to red and green and all that and I'm going to be using the new exploration ships in the near future. Maybe you'll see me in local and you'll probably bring some friends and outnumber me, and I'll be cloaked because my goal is to get loot and not engage any hostiles. I'm very good at that. And I am thankful that CCP gives us such a sandbox that I don't have to play the game like this was Modern Warfare. But best of all, I don't have to play it like you. I don't give a rat's ass about efficiency or whether you've lost anything stupidly. My point was that you didn't seem to be doing much of anything. EVE Online - An Unstable Game |

Baden Luskan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
46
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Posted - 2013.12.01 08:31:00 -
[56] - Quote
CCP has a really simple formula they need to follow over the next year: Fix the major problems with the game BEFORE Solar Citizen launches. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3721
|
Posted - 2013.12.01 08:35:00 -
[57] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:No, not really. You just lost any respect I might have had for you by throwing your lot with the biggest idiot I have ever encountered. I literally have more respect for the people I scam than Harry Forever.
If people say they're striking a blow for freedom by doing relic sites in Deklein, or killing cyno alts, whatever. To me that's just self important fluffing.
Um... you show your sense of self importance by thinking your respect matters, then attempt to call out self importance.
Maybe you are a little tired. I understand. |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3721
|
Posted - 2013.12.01 08:40:00 -
[58] - Quote
James Amril-Kesh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Don't presume to know where I have been, or have not, and where I'm going.
Deal? I can though, because it's pretty clear that you have almost no experience with nullsec. I say almost because I just looked at your killboard and... lol. Exploration is my main nullsec activity, and that means using intel so I achieve my goal without padding someone else's killboards. You see, not everybody just blobs and engages in stupid ship loss. I care as much for your precious killboard as much as I care for ISK (not much really). I don't have enough Ritalin in my system to obsess over "stats". I enjoy solo exploration and since I am not going to out-tank and out-DPS a 10 to 1 bubble camp I... avoid them. Since you don't see a lot of losses on my board, you can tell I am pretty good at getting past people who would kill me. Unfortunately the whole concept of the stats is by and for the aspergers crowd who just gotta alpha it over everybody else so my playstyle is not tracked by any means. So you can continue to cling to red and green and all that and I'm going to be using the new exploration ships in the near future. Maybe you'll see me in local and you'll probably bring some friends and outnumber me, and I'll be cloaked because my goal is to get loot and not engage any hostiles. I'm very good at that. And I am thankful that CCP gives us such a sandbox that I don't have to play the game like this was Modern Warfare. But best of all, I don't have to play it like you. I don't give a rat's ass about efficiency or whether you've lost anything stupidly. My point was that you didn't seem to be doing much of anything.
Well I can't get wrapped up in min-maxing due to a low amount of playtime. So all I can do is chug along with what little I have. If I try to make the most out of too little time to make the most ISK, or start up kills, or some other game goal, it'll start feeling like a job. And I already have one of those. After 7 years I have probably seen only 30 percent of the game. |

Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1734
|
Posted - 2013.12.01 08:42:00 -
[59] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:No, not really. You just lost any respect I might have had for you by throwing your lot with the biggest idiot I have ever encountered. I literally have more respect for the people I scam than Harry Forever.
If people say they're striking a blow for freedom by doing relic sites in Deklein, or killing cyno alts, whatever. To me that's just self important fluffing. Um... you show your sense of self importance by thinking your respect matters, then attempt to call out self importance. Maybe you are a little tired. I understand.
Negative. I was correcting you. You suggested that free thinkers bother me because I have a statist mindset or whatever. I said no, just the ones who throw in with morons like Harry Forever.
I do not care whether the fact that you do not have my respect matters to you or not. It is, however, a fact that I do not respect you because of your association with one of the single stupidest people I have ever encountered.
But puffing oneself up for killing cyno alts? Yeah, that's over inflated self importance. I am curious why you insist on defending the absurd actions of your colleague however. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
396
|
Posted - 2013.12.01 09:30:00 -
[60] - Quote
From a marketing aspect, throwing out statements of "at least one year", "five year plan", etc. is a good way to keep a player base that revolves around long term timers subscribed. After so many years playing a game, what would be one more year waiting for a possible change? |
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