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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2151
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Posted - 2013.12.04 04:13:00 -
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Samael Pserad wrote:Jim Era wrote:HTFU
Also, eve isn't for everyone. Maybe we enjoy being evil? Yes, that is very apparent. And somewhere in the background the giant empires of game companies like Blizzard stand back and laugh at CCP like a Goonswarm Titan Pilot laughs at the battle venture trying to gank it. I bet even Turbine makes more money.
There's more to life than being the biggest and best. The fact that Eve is alive, vibrant and constantly gaining subscribers despite gameplay mechanics that almost harken back to the MUD days says they are doing something right.
I have no problem with critiques of the game, but this was just a dumb jab. |

Crumplecorn
Eve Cluster Explorations
494
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Posted - 2013.12.04 04:41:00 -
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Samael Pserad wrote:I played the game for five months [...] This game sucks and its subscription numbers prove it. So the sub numbers prove the game sucks yet it took you five months to figure it out? Neat trick mathsman.
Anyway, thanks for an entertaining thread. Nothing quite like watching EVE chew them up and spit them out. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |

Bel Tika
Dirty Rotten Scoundrel's
27
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Posted - 2013.12.04 04:59:00 -
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Quote:Oh well, I don't really have anything constructive to say
you're right you dont |

Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2058
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Posted - 2013.12.04 05:09:00 -
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Samael Pserad wrote:I'm done with this game. I've already transferred several billions in assets to another member of BNI who was just about the only tolerable person I've met on this game so we can skip the "can I has your stuffs" replies.
People love to announce they're leaving Eve, and I'm happy to join the club. The skill training queue in this game is about the most foolish implantation I've seen in an MMO. To achieve reasonable revenge against those who repeatedly gank you, you just have to hold off for a year until you have the skills to fly a ship of moderate caliber against those who go after you. I finally realized that waiting a year was not worth it. I don't mind PvP games, I've enjoyed them when they're about skill or done in a balanced environment. Eve provides the opposite of a balanced environment and one gets sick of never being able to punish people who agress you for no reason. I also don't really consider ganking my industrial as I put through low-sec or what not as "PvP" so much as "Pv." I figured no big deal, I would train blockade runner. Then I realized I had to spend a month training that and that's a month I can't dedicate to combat skills or anything else. That's right, I have to give CCP $20 and wait a whole month just to make my character capable of running away.
It's a very creative business model, honestly. You prey simply on the hope that things will get better and one day, two years later, for doing nothing at all but paying CCP $15-$20 a month, you too can be effective in PvP which most companies work to ensure is plausible for players in the first place.
Oh well, I don't really have anything constructive to say. I was playing X3 Albion and I realized I was having fun playing a game... And then I remembered that I used to think playing MMO's was also fun, until I started playing Eve, and then I was just playing because I wanted to make the jerks who make the game so frustrating to play pay. However, after careful consideration, I realized that, not only is it really not worth waiting around for a year for, it's also a huge waste of real life money that I could be spending on MMO's that don't suck by being unwilling to reward active playing of the game.
At least I can take solace in the fact that CCP called you all evil when they named the Eve Gate after, well, Eve. I tend to agree with them - I've never played a game that really brought out the worst in people in a video gaming environment.
I had a few options for a reply to this, and couldn't decide between them, so I'll lay all three on you.
1. Well then.... you weren't a very brave newbie after all, were you?
2. WAIT!! You can't go!!!
I haven't ganked you yet 
3. Do you think the best PVP'ers became the best by quitting? I've beat players more than 3-4 years older than me, so good riddance to bad rubbish. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2058
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Posted - 2013.12.04 05:13:00 -
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Samael Pserad wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Gotta ask, what ship were you wanting to fly that takes a whole year of skilling for?
My go-to ship for PeeVeePee is typically Hurricane. Sometimes I'll throw down in a Scythe for frig fun roams. Neither took over a year to skill into.
I thinks, this complaint is less a "skillpoints" issue and more a "skill" issue. Anyway, best of luck finding a game you fit better. You win the math fail of year award if you think 4 million SP has a chance against 20 million. But maybe you're just a complete dumb dumb.
You win the math fail of the century for thinking all 20 million sp will be devoted to that one ship your opponent is flying.
/woops You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Remiel Pollard
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
2058
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Posted - 2013.12.04 05:16:00 -
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Samael Pserad wrote:Rayo Atra wrote:Brave Newbies Inc
Members5539
Seriously you cant get a group together to protect a hauler?
I think your problem is you're doing it wrong. If you look at eve in a "skills/assets" to the rescue methodology you will always be on the defensive. Nah, I really expected the hauler to get ganked. But I'm the kind of person who, no matter how many skill points I have, I'm not going to gank that industrial going through low or null. Honestly, ask the corp, I gave away 5 billion ISK in assets - I'm not so much worried about the fact that my industrial got ganked in null (shocking) so much as I realized this game is a giant waste of time that isn't very fun as opposed to MMO's that are great fun and are still a waste of time. Enjoy yourself.
500mil isk says this guy's close personal 'friend' got to know how carebear he was, got close and personal and ganked him repeatedly with alts until he wanted to quit in order to claim his assets. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Jarao
Capital Storm. JIHADASQUAD
5
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Posted - 2013.12.04 05:18:00 -
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Don't feed the troll
http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-don-t-feed-the-troll-22.png |

Xearal
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
757
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Posted - 2013.12.04 05:33:00 -
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OP, please tell me who you gave your stuffs to, so I can go and see if I can haz some of it from him.
Also, Blockade runners can be a lot of fun, some people might think all there is to PvP is pew pew, but they are wrong.
Here's some lovely examples of PvP in Eve that do not involve blowing people up:
1) Masterminding a market manipulation scheme that nets you billions while other players are paying through the nose and getting hosed by it.
2) Infiltrating a corp and robbing it for every penny they have, then awox all their shinies with your friends.
3) Dodge a 20 man gatecamp with your blockade runner, wave at them in local, then come back and do it again.
4) Work out a highly profitable set of manufacturing lines, setting up regular purchases from people at cut rate prices, then sell your goods at a premium.
5) Sneak into enemy held territory in a cover ops, and steal all their relic and data sites from under their noses, then escape with your hundreds of millions in phat loot.
This is just the tip of the iceberg. And none of these things require a single skillpoint in pew pew skills. Personally, I have done items, 3, 4 and 5, and hope to work out something to do number 1 on that list at some point. |

Big Lynx
Aliastra Gallente Federation
34
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Posted - 2013.12.04 06:17:00 -
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cannz ii haazzz your stuuffzz?? |

Prince Sanguine
82
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Posted - 2013.12.04 06:39:00 -
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Why are you feeding the troll? Just another miner gone, nothing of value lost. Everytime you read this you are required to send 100 million isk directly to me. |

Jake Peters
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
11
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Posted - 2013.12.04 06:56:00 -
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Maybe I'm missing out on a lot of what this whole game is about, but when I read threads like this I'm kinda glad I only like playing PvE.  |

Mr Pragmatic
746
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Posted - 2013.12.04 07:11:00 -
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I see you said you have yo wait a year before you can implement any sort of revenge? Why not get friends more skilled than you to come along....jusayin. Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness. -á-Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling. |

Gigan Amilupar
No Code of Conduct Fluffeh Bunneh Murder Squad
83
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Posted - 2013.12.04 07:27:00 -
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I'm just going to leave this right here. |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1134
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Posted - 2013.12.04 07:52:00 -
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Samael Pserad wrote:At least I can take solace in the fact that CCP called you all evil when they named the Eve Gate after, well, Eve. I tend to agree with them - I've never played a game that really brought out the worst in people in a video gaming environment. It's impossible to be good if you don't have the option to be evil. Only by creating an environment that allows evil and quite frequently seems to reward it more than it does reward good (just like this world we live in), CCP allows players to play really good characters. Doing the right thing in a game that doesn't allow you to do anything else is meaningless. In EVE doing the right thing is a meaningful decision that comes at a cost. |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
2015
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Posted - 2013.12.04 07:57:00 -
[45] - Quote
Bye. Rifterlings pirate corporation is now recruitng members for lowsec PvP operations. Newbie friendly, free T1 frigate and dessy hangar, solo tutoring and PvP classes for new members. Join our in game channel 'weflyrifters' and speak to a recruiter today. |

I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
754
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Posted - 2013.12.04 08:01:00 -
[46] - Quote
You'll be back. Kind of silly to give your stuff away. |

Lugalbandak
Anunnaku Warfare Corp.
267
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Posted - 2013.12.04 08:06:00 -
[47] - Quote
Samael Pserad wrote:I'm done with this game. I've already transferred several billions in assets to another member of BNI who was just about the only tolerable person I've met on this game so we can skip the "can I has your stuffs" replies.
People love to announce they're leaving Eve, and I'm happy to join the club. The skill training queue in this game is about the most foolish implantation I've seen in an MMO. To achieve reasonable revenge against those who repeatedly gank you, you just have to hold off for a year until you have the skills to fly a ship of moderate caliber against those who go after you. I finally realized that waiting a year was not worth it. I don't mind PvP games, I've enjoyed them when they're about skill or done in a balanced environment. Eve provides the opposite of a balanced environment and one gets sick of never being able to punish people who agress you for no reason. I also don't really consider ganking my industrial as I put through low-sec or what not as "PvP" so much as "Pv." I figured no big deal, I would train blockade runner. Then I realized I had to spend a month training that and that's a month I can't dedicate to combat skills or anything else. That's right, I have to give CCP $20 and wait a whole month just to make my character capable of running away.
It's a very creative business model, honestly. You prey simply on the hope that things will get better and one day, two years later, for doing nothing at all but paying CCP $15-$20 a month, you too can be effective in PvP which most companies work to ensure is plausible for players in the first place.
Oh well, I don't really have anything constructive to say. I was playing X3 Albion and I realized I was having fun playing a game... And then I remembered that I used to think playing MMO's was also fun, until I started playing Eve, and then I was just playing because I wanted to make the jerks who make the game so frustrating to play pay. However, after careful consideration, I realized that, not only is it really not worth waiting around for a year for, it's also a huge waste of real life money that I could be spending on MMO's that don't suck by being unwilling to reward active playing of the game.
At least I can take solace in the fact that CCP called you all evil when they named the Eve Gate after, well, Eve. I tend to agree with them - I've never played a game that really brought out the worst in people in a video gaming environment.
what a lies , i kill evry week older guys , yesterday even one from 2004 The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back |

Jove Death
The Jovian Navy
234
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Posted - 2013.12.04 08:21:00 -
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Samael Pserad wrote:Abrazzar wrote:Wait. You managed to get several billion of assets but didn't get over the training times? You know, with that amount of ISK you could have just bought yourself a PvP character on the Bazaar! Meh... I don't like how you people design characters. They all look like **** supersoldier Silvester Stallone wannabes.
Your saying I look like Silvester Stallone.... Shoulda gone Specsavers
Samael Pserad wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Gotta ask, what ship were you wanting to fly that takes a whole year of skilling for?
My go-to ship for PeeVeePee is typically Hurricane. Sometimes I'll throw down in a Scythe for frig fun roams. Neither took over a year to skill into.
I thinks, this complaint is less a "skillpoints" issue and more a "skill" issue. Anyway, best of luck finding a game you fit better. You win the math fail of year award if you think 4 million SP has a chance against 20 million. But maybe you're just a complete dumb dumb.
Im sorry its your math that actually sucks. I was blowing up 2 year old chars with 1.5 mill sp and if you dont beleive me check my KB and yes they were solo without rem reps.
The skill queue can be a pain and in the olden days you could start a char with sp for combact, science and pvp.
However having a moan cos thats what you are doing is like a 13 year old having all his playboy mags taken away.
You joined a **** alliance which are constantly being whacked by war targets and null pvpers who have actually taken the time
to look at fits, read and learn. Your stuff has been given to a char who has prob been sucking up to you since day one.
If your going to leave log off dont come back. On the other hand you can start a fresh, look at the game and actually read and learn again. Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1602
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Posted - 2013.12.04 08:37:00 -
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Dear Op, if you made 'several billions' in five months of playing, you are doing something right.
Also, (as I am not sure and cannot be bothered to check) it does not take a year to train all the relevant skills for a Frigate or Cruiser to level V.
Anyway, I never want players to leave the game (apart from Erotica 1) so hang on in there, Eve is worth the pain. This is not a signature. |

Dangirdas Bachir
Direct Support Initiative
713
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Posted - 2013.12.04 08:39:00 -
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can i plz haz itms?? EVE EVE STARGALACTIC CITY B I T C H |

Mhax Arthie
192
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Posted - 2013.12.04 09:33:00 -
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Darth Peaches wrote:Can I have ur stuff? You can have mine. If you wish I can rage quit too so the whole business will look legit.
Also, you need to ask like a pro. Something like this:
Dangirdas Bachir wrote:can i plz haz itms??
PS: Samael, no need for wall of text. Just be a bit more dramatic than those who quit in Jita, it's enough to make your mail flashing. Easy money is best money. |

Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1256
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Posted - 2013.12.04 09:38:00 -
[52] - Quote
Samael Pserad wrote: At least I can take solace in the fact that CCP called you all evil when they named the Eve Gate after, well, Eve.
WAT
One less misogynist in the game is a win for us all.
Brings out the worst in people? Maybe but I have met few as obnoxious as the OP High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |

TharOkha
0asis Group
657
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Posted - 2013.12.04 09:51:00 -
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LOL dude, for several Billions, you could have decent character from character bazaar and you could just "skip" years of training.
This just proves that EVE is for wiser ones only. 
GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldnt the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |

ner00n
Dead's Prostitutes Li3 Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.12.04 09:53:00 -
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Samael Pserad wrote:Jim Era wrote:I was wrong, this is a troll thread.
I want to look like Sly. There's little left to do but troll now. Honestly, I played the game for five months and met one person who was moderately friendly. 99% of people don't even respond if you try to message them or talk to them in local. This game sucks and its subscription numbers prove it.
Thats kind of funny as eve is the largest MMO about at the moment
and are you one of the people btw that flys though high sec in a tech 1 hauler filled with 2 bil worth of stuff as that might be one of the issues you are having with getting ganked |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
584
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Posted - 2013.12.04 10:05:00 -
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ner00n wrote:Samael Pserad wrote:Jim Era wrote:I was wrong, this is a troll thread.
I want to look like Sly. There's little left to do but troll now. Honestly, I played the game for five months and met one person who was moderately friendly. 99% of people don't even respond if you try to message them or talk to them in local. This game sucks and its subscription numbers prove it. Thats kind of funny as eve is the largest MMO about at the moment and are you one of the people btw that flys though high sec in a tech 1 hauler filled with 2 bil worth of stuff as that might be one of the issues you are having with getting ganked No, he flies a hauler into low sec choke points and gate camps and wonders why he gets shot instead. |

Gazzinho
Fat Dragon Mining Co. JIHADASQUAD
0
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Posted - 2013.12.04 10:13:00 -
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OH MY GAWD !!!!
I can swim in a pool of tears from this guy. Who'd say that 100mill iteron kill can bring this much joy?
P.S. Can I haz your stuff?
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Kris Xavier
StarHunt Insidious Empire
18
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Posted - 2013.12.04 10:14:00 -
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TL:DR
I am bad at Internet spaceships. I have no stuff to giveaway, because i am bad. Because i have no stuff and I am bad, I quit and re sub my WoW account.
WoW is hard, but i am good at it. EvE is easy, but i am bad at it.
Everyone in EvE is a scrub.
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Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1256
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Posted - 2013.12.04 10:23:00 -
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Kris Xavier wrote:
I am bad at Internet spaceships. I have no stuff to giveaway, because i am bad. Because i have no stuff and I am bad, I quit and re sub my WoW account.
WoW is hard, but i am good at it. EvE is easy, but i am bad at it.
Everyone in EvE is a scrub.
How do you know what Im secretly thinking as I type my ship toasts?!  High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |

Kris Xavier
StarHunt Insidious Empire
18
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Posted - 2013.12.04 10:29:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Kris Xavier wrote:
I am bad at Internet spaceships. I have no stuff to giveaway, because i am bad. Because i have no stuff and I am bad, I quit and re sub my WoW account.
WoW is hard, but i am good at it. EvE is easy, but i am bad at it.
Everyone in EvE is a scrub.
 How do you know what Im secretly thinking as I type my ship toasts?! 
Because you are speaking aloud, and i'm staring in through your windows. |

Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1256
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Posted - 2013.12.04 10:30:00 -
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Kris Xavier wrote:
Because you are speaking aloud, and i'm staring in through your windows.
Considering what else is going on in here, I think its highly irresponsible that you haven't called the police yet High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
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