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Luci Ambrye
The Service Crew
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Posted - 2013.12.06 11:49:00 -
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Does anyone else think that CCP are completely wrong in making this an exploit and that it should be regarded as a genuine game mechanic?
POS Bumpin
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Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.12.06 11:52:00 -
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No. Read the announcement again, this time with eyes open. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Polarized.
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Posted - 2013.12.06 11:53:00 -
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It shouldn't be possible in the first place but that is CCPs problem.
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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.12.06 11:54:00 -
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I'd be quite happy to see the elimination of POS bubbles, replacing it with a different mechanic. Such as the ability to anchor a super cap to a structure, locking it down.
That's certainly been suggested by CCP as the way things will be going. AOE effects like POS bubbles make CCP Veritas cry.
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Luci Ambrye
The Service Crew
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Posted - 2013.12.06 11:55:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:No. Read the announcement again, this time with eyes open.
Eyes are wide enough open to know that you sound butthurt as if its already happened to you/your alliance. |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.06 11:59:00 -
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Luci Ambrye wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:No. Read the announcement again, this time with eyes open. I got caught out misreading or failing to pass elementary english and now I need to resort to personal insults to hide my sore epeen
FTFU
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Keno Skir
Vectis Covert Solutions
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Posted - 2013.12.06 12:10:00 -
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Luci Ambrye wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:No. Read the announcement again, this time with eyes open. Eyes are wide enough open to know that you sound butthurt as if its already happened to you/your alliance.
Heh. He makes a fair point tho doesn't he, you did misunderstand..
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.06 12:16:00 -
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It's not an exploit to bump a ship out of the pos if you're legitimately able to enter the pos shields. This includes guessing the password or learning it through espionage.
If the shields are supposed to keep you out though, then you shouldn't be able to bump something out of them.
I'm not aware of how this exploit works but I agree with CCP's call here.
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Samillian
Angry Mustellid
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Posted - 2013.12.06 12:16:00 -
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Luci Ambrye wrote:Does anyone else think that CCP are completely wrong in making this an exploit and that it should be regarded as a genuine game mechanic? POS Bumpin
No
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I Love Boobies
All Hail Boobies
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Posted - 2013.12.06 12:17:00 -
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I thought they made this an exploit a long time ago? Or was that warping to an enemy POS in a cap ship or titan and bouncing the ships out to kill them? I had assumed that it meant bumping any ships out of a POS was an exploit. |
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Loki Proteus
Wild Knights
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Posted - 2013.12.06 12:28:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:I thought they made this an exploit a long time ago? Or was that warping to an enemy POS in a cap ship or titan and bouncing the ships out to kill them? I had assumed that it meant bumping any ships out of a POS was an exploit.
This is called POS Bowling and is the reason you land 15km off the shields when you warp to a pos without the password entered nowdays
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Zol Interbottom
Theft and Taxes
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Posted - 2013.12.06 12:30:00 -
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It's only an exploit if you have to exploit your way trough the shield
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.12.06 12:30:00 -
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I Love Boobies wrote:I thought they made this an exploit a long time ago? Or was that warping to an enemy POS in a cap ship or titan and bouncing the ships out to kill them? I had assumed that it meant bumping any ships out of a POS was an exploit.
POS bowling in its various forms has been an exploit for ages. This is probably just a friendly reminder as some party or another has taken it up anew as a hobby.
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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1064
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Posted - 2013.12.06 12:35:00 -
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Old 'mechanic' er exploit. ^says it better then I could have^ |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2013.12.06 12:36:00 -
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Yup, it was declared an exploit many years ago. Then the mechanics allowing this were fixed. Apparently someone found a new way around it. But guess what, the ruling still stands. |
Setsune Rin
Collapsed Out
Shadow Cartel
108
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Posted - 2013.12.06 13:15:00 -
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so some idiot that parks an avatar with its butt sticking out of the shields is off-limits now? |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.06 13:25:00 -
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Setsune Rin wrote:so some idiot that parks an avatar with its butt sticking out of the shields is off-limits now?
No
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Rhes
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.06 13:28:00 -
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Setsune Rin wrote:so some idiot that parks an avatar with its butt sticking out of the shields is off-limits now?
You might want to try actually reading the announcement before making dumb comments about it.
EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2338
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Posted - 2013.12.06 16:48:00 -
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I'm trying to figure out how you can get into the POS force field without rights. The only two things I can think of are
Go real fast and penetrate in a bit before getting bumped out.
Micro-jump drive. This one I would expect CCP to have covered by game mechanics.
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NEONOVUS
Diabolically Sexy Eureka-Secret Science R Us
533
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:10:00 -
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So who died to cause this ruling?
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2013.12.06 17:33:00 -
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NEONOVUS wrote:So who died to cause this ruling?
Don't know who the victim was this time, but it seems CCP logs have improved over the years. They went from "Our logs show nothing" to "Our logs show everything". |
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.12.06 18:16:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:NEONOVUS wrote:So who died to cause this ruling?
Don't know who the victim was this time, but it seems CCP logs have improved over the years. They went from "Our logs show nothing" to "Our logs show everything".
Actually this would be a pretty good response to every single whine.
"Our logs show everything."
*were you expecting anything to be done about it? |
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.06 18:25:00 -
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Sooo, ummm .... why can a small ship bump a large and insanely heavier ship? Yeah.
Also do we need a class to memorize all the exploits due to silly game mechanics?
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seth Hendar
I love you miners
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Posted - 2013.12.06 18:57:00 -
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that's bullshit, which CCP ppl is coming from a big alliance, pretty sure a titan of said alliance died this way not long ago......
clearly, CCP, stop that ****, after that you will also say it's an exploit to bump? then to undock?
stop dumbing eve down, if one is dumb enought to park a titan in a small, with it's bare ass sticking out, he deserve to loose it. |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2013.12.06 18:59:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:that's bullshit, which CCP ppl is coming from a big alliance, pretty sure a titan of said alliance died this way not long ago......
clearly, CCP, stop that ****, after that you will also say it's an exploit to bump? then to undock?
stop dumbing eve down, if one is dumb enought to park a titan in a small, with it's bare ass sticking out, he deserve to loose it.
Which part is bullshit, exactly?
As others have noted, this isn't a new exploit. It's been known and regarded as an exploit for years.
Whatever prompted the reminder, hopefully they doled out some punishment with it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. |
Pedo Thellere
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.12.06 19:00:00 -
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Abdiel Kavash wrote:No. Read the announcement again, this time with eyes open.
What about the announcement could he have possibly misread? They say we can no longer take advantage of idiot cap/supercap pilots who are sitting in a small pos with their asses hanging out in the breeze. How is that an exploit? There are many ways to prevent this such as BUY A BIGGER POS. It really is a bullshit call. |
seth Hendar
I love you miners
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Posted - 2013.12.06 19:09:00 -
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SurrenderMonkey wrote:seth Hendar wrote:that's bullshit, which CCP ppl is coming from a big alliance, pretty sure a titan of said alliance died this way not long ago......
clearly, CCP, stop that ****, after that you will also say it's an exploit to bump? then to undock?
stop dumbing eve down, if one is dumb enought to park a titan in a small, with it's bare ass sticking out, he deserve to loose it. Which part is bullshit, exactly? As others have noted, this isn't a new exploit. It's been known and regarded as an exploit for years. Whatever prompted the reminder, hopefully they doled out some punishment with it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
two reasons:
calling this an exploit, it as been used for so long, it's one of the only way to actually kill a titan (wich CCP already aknowledge hey don't die often enought), and protecting someone for being dumb, wich go against the moto of eve, where being dumb lead to consequences.
the recent events, it's almost like CCP is claiming that killing a titan is an exploit....seriously this is bad.
at lerast we are now sure CCP doesn't give a F*** about emergent / clever gameplay, despite what they claim.
while i agree the bumping mechanic need to be adressed for the titan (the current easyness is ridiculous), this particular "solution" is dumb (to stay polite) |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2338
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Posted - 2013.12.06 19:12:00 -
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Pedo Thellere wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:No. Read the announcement again, this time with eyes open. What about the announcement could he have possibly misread? They say we can no longer take advantage of idiot cap/supercap pilots who are sitting in a small pos with their asses hanging out in the breeze. How is that an exploit? There are many ways to prevent this such as BUY A BIGGER POS. It really is a bullshit call.
It sounds to me like CCP needs to define when a ship is in a POS force field. I see two definitions:
1) When all parts of its collision bubble are in the force field
2) When it is sufficiently far in the force field that it cannot be targeted or boarded.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
316
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Posted - 2013.12.06 19:16:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:SurrenderMonkey wrote:seth Hendar wrote:that's bullshit, which CCP ppl is coming from a big alliance, pretty sure a titan of said alliance died this way not long ago......
clearly, CCP, stop that ****, after that you will also say it's an exploit to bump? then to undock?
stop dumbing eve down, if one is dumb enought to park a titan in a small, with it's bare ass sticking out, he deserve to loose it. Which part is bullshit, exactly? As others have noted, this isn't a new exploit. It's been known and regarded as an exploit for years. Whatever prompted the reminder, hopefully they doled out some punishment with it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. two reasons: calling this an exploit, it as been used for so long, )
What in the actual **** are you on about?
POS bowling has always been an exploit. Nothing changed here. CCP didn't alter the rules. This isn't new. It was a reminder for imbeciles who forgot. |
Pedo Thellere
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.12.06 19:26:00 -
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SurrenderMonkey wrote:seth Hendar wrote:that's bullshit, which CCP ppl is coming from a big alliance, pretty sure a titan of said alliance died this way not long ago......
clearly, CCP, stop that ****, after that you will also say it's an exploit to bump? then to undock?
stop dumbing eve down, if one is dumb enought to park a titan in a small, with it's bare ass sticking out, he deserve to loose it. Which part is bullshit, exactly? As others have noted, this isn't a new exploit. It's been known and regarded as an exploit for years. Whatever prompted the reminder, hopefully they doled out some punishment with it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
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