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Kaylana Syi
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Posted - 2006.03.05 02:06:00 -
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 Originally by: TomB
Blasters are getting looked into for next patch, there was not enough time to get them fixed for the Blood patch. Aiming for tests to start on SiSi in the upcoming week, you will see a post from a dev once it's on.
I will be there with several characters. One uber Matari skills and one with 'meh' matari skills both phoonable. I will also be there with a char with 5mil SP to test hybrids as well as a char with 25mil SP to test Hybrids.
How about a nice thread sticky once these changes go in dedicated to L Hybrids and one to the Phoon so we can be subjective across the board.
Also, can you do something about Howies? I think they deserve a looking at too.
Originally by: "Oveur"
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.03.05 07:59:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Dash Ripcock
Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: Selim
What exactly is the problem with small and medium blasters? Large ones could use a tracking boost though.
never noticed a huge problem with mids, unless there on my deimos, but thats the deimos itself not the blasters
I don't mind medium blasters, I'd just like to be able to fit some to my Deimos. Thanks!
thats what i meant, 5 neutron ii's on a deimos is totaly impossilbe if you want to put something in the rest of the slots
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Aloysius Knight
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Posted - 2006.03.05 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan239
thats what i meant, 5 neutron ii's on a deimos is totaly impossilbe if you want to put something in the rest of the slots[/quote
welcome to the munnins world 
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2006.03.05 08:36:00 -
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Way to lynch the dev, he responds to one issue thats been raised a dozen times and proven with something called "mathematics", and you all start making demands.
Assuming he even reads the rest of this thread, you're essentially asking for boosts to your favorite gun/ship based on speculative opinion. This is probably why we don't get any discussions out of TomB ;/
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.03.05 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: Spartan239 on 05/03/2006 08:42:44
Edited by: Spartan239 on 05/03/2006 08:42:16
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
Originally by: Spartan239
thats what i meant, 5 neutron ii's on a deimos is totaly impossilbe if you want to put something in the rest of the slots
welcome to the munnins world
how well does the munnin work with ac's beacuse I probably shoudl have mentioned how fat and flow the deimos is, and how cap hungry it is, unles the munnin cant fit a full rack of 425's?
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2006.03.05 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: DigitalCommunist
Way to lynch the dev, he responds to one issue thats been raised a dozen times and proven with something called "mathematics", and you all start making demands.
Assuming he even reads the rest of this thread, you're essentially asking for boosts to your favorite gun/ship based on speculative opinion. This is probably why we don't get any discussions out of TomB ;/
They are related.
The blaster family encompasses blaster ships, and the Deimos is certainly a blaster ship. Personally, I think small and medium blasters are fine if perhaps a little over the top with fitting. You talk of hi-jacking a thread. Perhaps we wouldn't need to if people got responses in threads like the following:
Ten-Page Deimos Thread
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Specture
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Posted - 2006.03.05 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: TomB
Blasters are getting looked into for next patch, there was not enough time to get them fixed for the Blood patch. Aiming for tests to start on SiSi in the upcoming week, you will see a post from a dev once it's on.
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Mather Maelstrom
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Posted - 2006.03.05 10:37:00 -
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Edited by: Mather Maelstrom on 05/03/2006 10:39:28
Yay, but don't only look at large blasters, mediums need some serious love too or atleast some heavy deimos hugging.
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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2006.03.05 11:31:00 -
[99]
You know these gold bar 'thingy's' are at the same time an awesome and terrible idea...
*Gold bar appears*
"are we nearly there yet?"
"are we nearly there yet?"
"are we nearly there yet?"
"are we....."
I'm waiting for the day TomB snaps...
"Will you all just STFU!!!1111"
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.03.05 11:46:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Spartan239
Edited by: Spartan239 on 05/03/2006 08:42:44
Edited by: Spartan239 on 05/03/2006 08:42:16
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
Originally by: Spartan239
thats what i meant, 5 neutron ii's on a deimos is totaly impossilbe if you want to put something in the rest of the slots
welcome to the munnins world
how well does the munnin work with ac's beacuse I probably shoudl have mentioned how fat and flow the deimos is, and how cap hungry it is, unles the munnin cant fit a full rack of 425's?
I don't fly a munnin, but from what I gather from people that fly it (and people that use med AC's):
- 425mm suck because of the small clip. Better off with 220mm or D180mm
- munnin is a fat whale.
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.03.05 12:02:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Spartan239
Edited by: Spartan239 on 05/03/2006 08:42:44
Edited by: Spartan239 on 05/03/2006 08:42:16
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
Originally by: Spartan239
thats what i meant, 5 neutron ii's on a deimos is totaly impossilbe if you want to put something in the rest of the slots
welcome to the munnins world
how well does the munnin work with ac's beacuse I probably shoudl have mentioned how fat and flow the deimos is, and how cap hungry it is, unles the munnin cant fit a full rack of 425's?
I don't fly a munnin, but from what I gather from people that fly it (and people that use med AC's):
- 425mm suck because of the small clip. Better off with 220mm or D180mm
- munnin is a fat whale.
I was making a point about the 425mm's
and the Munnin has less mass and more speed than the deimos
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Naughty Boy
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Posted - 2006.03.05 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan239
I was making a point about the 425mm's
How does it matter, if the deimos can't fit neutrons t2 and the muninn can fit 425mm AC t2, if there is no incentive whatsoever to fit 425mm AC because they are never worth using over 220mm AC. The marginal advantage they have over 220mm AC in very rare cases is never really worth the loss of versatility. You most certainly wouldn't like CCP to decrease the fitting requirements of neutrons so that you can fit them on the deimos, but at the same time change their stats so that they aren't worth using anyway, would you? That's exactly what would happen if you wanted the deimos to be in a similar situation than the muninn. How is the muninn in a better situation then?
Furthermore, the deimos is clearly a blaster boat and the muninn is clearly an artillery ship. If there is a problem with medium blasters, you most certainly wouldn't like me telling you to fit medium rails instead to solve your problem. So, if the muninn also has problems fitting artilleries, there's little relevance in telling muninn pilots to fit autocannons (and the worse of them, even) instead.
Now, as this kind of statements about the deimos being completely broken and the muninn being very fine (when they have similar grid problems, the irony) is somehow frequent, let me point out another thread where I compare the long range capabilities (fitting, damage, and to a lesser extent tank) of the deimos and muninn. It appears that the deimos is easier to fit than the muninn in the long range role, with similar or better damage and tank.
In short, if ships have similar problems, there's no reason to fix one and not the other. Especially if you want the problems you want to see solved, to be solved, in the name of fairness.
Sincerly Yours, The Naughty Boy.
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.03.05 12:41:00 -
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geuss the deimos lovers spend mroe time on the forums than the munin lovers
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Pesadel0
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Posted - 2006.03.05 13:11:00 -
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I donŠt get this thread,you want to fit a rack of meds AND tank?
One have to choose,welcome to the world of the perfect fiting..
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hylleX
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Posted - 2006.03.05 14:42:00 -
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I think its about time to fix small lasers. "Medium pulse/beams" they only fit on cruisers especially beams.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.05 15:02:00 -
[106]
Originally by: hylleX
I think its about time to fix small lasers. "Medium pulse/beams" they only fit on cruisers especially beams.
thats cause thy do mucho more damage then the other small weapons 
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Tessen
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Posted - 2006.03.05 15:04:00 -
[107]
Originally by: TomB
Blasters, Phoon, AF's and more. It has started, once it's in testing you will be notified with a shiny sticky post in this forum channel.
And Drones ?
Please give us a "desactivate drone AI" button.
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Kitti Kenzaki
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Posted - 2006.03.05 15:07:00 -
[108]
Originally by: hylleX
I think its about time to fix small lasers. "Medium pulse/beams" they only fit on cruisers especially beams.
You need more weapp upgrade and adv weap upgrade then.
Heve no problems to fit them on T1 Amarr frigs.
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hylleX
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Posted - 2006.03.05 16:23:00 -
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Edited by: hylleX on 05/03/2006 16:24:17
Originally by: Kitti Kenzaki
Originally by: hylleX
I think its about time to fix small lasers. "Medium pulse/beams" they only fit on cruisers especially beams.
You need more weapp upgrade and adv weap upgrade then.
Heve no problems to fit them on T1 Amarr frigs.
Oh really, Engineering 5, Weapon upgrades 5, and adv wa at 4 is decent i think and 2% for level 5 wont change anything while fitting these turrets mmkay cuz i would need more like 20% or more. I would be very interested in what ship and fitting u use to fit medium beam IIs on a amarr frig T1 frig/inty or even medium pulse IIs, and this ofc without using a totally gimped setup. Medium Pulses fit on Af but thats it. Beams, yea right.
Try comparing this with i dunno say 280s II on a wolf bet they fit.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.05 16:41:00 -
[110]
Originally by: hylleX
Edited by: hylleX on 05/03/2006 16:24:17
Originally by: Kitti Kenzaki
Originally by: hylleX
I think its about time to fix small lasers. "Medium pulse/beams" they only fit on cruisers especially beams.
You need more weapp upgrade and adv weap upgrade then.
Heve no problems to fit them on T1 Amarr frigs.
Oh really, Engineering 5, Weapon upgrades 5, and adv wa at 4 is decent i think and 2% for level 5 wont change anything while fitting these turrets mmkay cuz i would need more like 20% or more. I would be very interested in what ship and fitting u use to fit medium beam IIs on a amarr frig T1 frig/inty or even medium pulse IIs, and this ofc without using a totally gimped setup. Medium Pulses fit on Af but thats it. Beams, yea right.
Try comparing this with i dunno say 280s II on a wolf bet they fit.
ready my post before you continue to post
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.03.05 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Joerd Toastius on 05/03/2006 18:53:11
That extra damage isn't particularly useful if you can't fit it on a frigate :P Med Pulse are fine but Med Beams need some looking at, even if it means sacrificing a bit of damage.
{edit} Besides which, don't large blasters do more damage than other BS weapons too?
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elFarto
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Posted - 2006.03.06 09:41:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Denrace
What about the craptacular bonuses on the Nighthawk?
What excatly is crap about it?
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Aloysius Knight
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Posted - 2006.03.06 10:05:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Spartan239
Edited by: Spartan239 on 05/03/2006 08:42:44
Edited by: Spartan239 on 05/03/2006 08:42:16
Originally by: Aloysius Knight
Originally by: Spartan239
thats what i meant, 5 neutron ii's on a deimos is totaly impossilbe if you want to put something in the rest of the slots
welcome to the munnins world
how well does the munnin work with ac's beacuse I probably shoudl have mentioned how fat and flow the deimos is, and how cap hungry it is, unles the munnin cant fit a full rack of 425's?
the munnin is a arty boat, not a ac boat, u try and fit 5 t2 720mms on that
deimos main weps is blasters then rails
munnins main wep is arty then ac
like i said welcome to the munnins world
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LUKEC
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Posted - 2006.03.06 10:07:00 -
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fitting 5x 250mm t2 rails on deimos is also impossible without rcu... so welcome to deimos world, poor munin pilots.
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Adril Alatar
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Posted - 2006.03.06 10:17:00 -
[115]
Originally by: LUKEC
fitting 5x 250mm t2 rails on deimos is also impossible without rcu... so welcome to deimos world, poor munin pilots.
to fit 5 x 720 T2 + afterburner on a muninn you need 2 reactor control units. and you have about 100 powergrid left to fit tank and the last 2 high slots....
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Meridius
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Posted - 2006.03.06 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
fitting 5x 250mm t2 rails on deimos is also impossible without rcu... so welcome to deimos world, poor munin pilots.
No it's not.
You get left with 13pg but you can fit 5x 250mm Railgun II's.
The Muninn needs 1 rcu II (gets left with 128.83pg).
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Jaketh Ivanes
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Posted - 2006.03.06 11:08:00 -
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All ships have great difficulity fitting top of the line weapons of their size.
And thats the way its supposed to be.
An Apoc can't fit 8xTachs. Mega can't fit 7xNeutron L's. Not sure about the pest and 1400's tbh. A Maller can't fit 5x Heavy Beams.
Some can just squeese it in, but can't fit anything else. Otherwise, what would be the use for lower level guns?
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dalman
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Posted - 2006.03.06 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Jaketh Ivanes
All ships have great difficulity fitting top of the line weapons of their size.
And thats the way its supposed to be.
An Apoc can't fit 8xTachs. Mega can't fit 7xNeutron L's. Not sure about the pest and 1400's tbh. A Maller can't fit 5x Heavy Beams.
Some can just squeese it in, but can't fit anything else. Otherwise, what would be the use for lower level guns?
Hello.
This is reality busting ***** posts.
Tachyon = long range weapon. Megathron equivalent = 425mm rail.
Mega pulse = short range weapon. Megathron equivalent = Neutron blaster.
Unless you're gunna explain to me that an Apoc can't fit 8x Mega Pulse I'm saying that your post is *********.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2006.03.06 12:19:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: LUKEC
fitting 5x 250mm t2 rails on deimos is also impossible without rcu... so welcome to deimos world, poor munin pilots.
No it's not.
You get left with 13pg but you can fit 5x 250mm Railgun II's.
The Muninn needs 1 rcu II (gets left with 128.83pg).
and muninn has still 2 empty highslots 
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Damien Vox
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Posted - 2006.03.06 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: LUKEC
fitting 5x 250mm t2 rails on deimos is also impossible without rcu... so welcome to deimos world, poor munin pilots.
We Minmatar were in this situation far before the Gallente were, welcome to what has become our complete existance.
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