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Be glad these things are even available in the SOE store. I was fully expecting CCP to implement the new ships in only the nullsec LP stores. If the threat of suicide gankers really bothers people that much, they can head over to The Sanctuary out in nullsec and mission for them.

It looks like someone's ganking SOE mission runners in each of the hubs. A group of destroyers bounces out, then a dozen local chat icons turn blinking red. So if someone was wanting PVP excitement in high-sec space, it's here now. PVE-centric players ... well, we'll have to see if CCP gets worried about the casual players unsubbing too quickly for their financial comfort.

I'm actually there right now have been since before the patch. Logged on one day to see crowds comingh and going, doin them missions.
Not a lot of ganking going on, could be because the risk here is, oh i don't know, actually there.
Plus it is a bit of a drive, logistics wise, getting your gank catas out from torrinos, let's face it, a lot of hisec gankers are just that, hisec gankers.

TLDR: Lotta mission runners out here guys, come n get em.

Yeah right.

highsec gankers may say they are all about PVP and "risk" but they dare not risk being on the receiving end of a gank.

welcome to 2-3 months ago. The SOE mission locations have been like this for awhile from what I've heard.

Its not like ganking blinged mission ships in trade hubs is new at all.

Or that there aren't hundreds of other places to go mission in your 5bn isk mission running ship where it won't get scanned a single time EVER.

meanwhile OP is babbling about people unsubbing. Get a clue, fool.

What your observation proves is that highsec gankers may say they are all about PVP and "risk" but they dare not risk being on the receiving end of a gank. I was amazed to find things actually civil in ROIR-Y. It does not mean nothing ever happens "out there", it's just that everybody is alert and so the ganks won't come easy.

And nobody is going to sit outside an NPC nullsec station with destroyers for a long time unless they want to get "SB Bowled".

We make the risk. We are the risk.

It just stands to reason that people who are all about risk will understand how to take measures to mitigate risk as well.

All well and good. The best gankers are the ones who say "I log in just to kill you". My problem is the people who coyly try to confuse the sandbox with their personal litterbox and then pretend they are innocent. All they do is give the game the same kind of underwear smell that used to emanate from the big kid in the schoolyard that tries to shake everybody down for lunch money.

The OP misses the point, but it's clearly easy to figure out: risk and combat in a PVP game are one thing, babysitting somebody's Ritalin-wreck is another, and most people given a "choice" not to "have to put up with certain kinds of people" will not stick around. And it does not matter if it's a dysfunctional workplace, a club, a babysitting gig, or even their own families. And yes, even in a GAME - given a choice, they will not stick around to put up with certain kinds of people.

When people say "make all space like nullsec" not all of them are people looking for free ganks. Most of them want to get rid of that certain kind of person.

Security in highsec mission hubs is not difficult though. I don't see what the problem is. Mission runners being harassed? It used to be much worse. I remember TEARS and how being able to "blue the wrecks" was one of the biggest griefing moves ever perpetrated on a playstyle by a game company.

Now the question is: "Did someobody undock an untanked SoE ship?". C'mon let's be honest. Harrassing mission runners is nothing new actually. I think somebody undocked an SoE ship without a tank.

"meanwhile OP is babbling about people unsubbing. Get a clue, fool." --- and this is where the 'forum warrior' swings his sword to cleanse the world of all opinion and thought that does not align with the ONE TRUE --- something.!

The only solution would be to limit once active client per computer.
Then you dont have to worry about multiboxing.
Of course smart people will already smile at this knowing the truth and how to get around it.
The good news is this removes all those xp multiboxers.
And that is what I desire
Death to XP
Long live 8.0!

Wait! ... but highsec has no risk!

nulllbears must explain this

It's a PvP game, why are people so shocked when PvP happens to them?

Mission running is a form of PvP, all those SoE LP that the missioners are hoarding eventually gets turned into stuff that can be sold on the market, removing some of the competition from that market segment makes sense.

We often hear "EVE is a PvP game, PvE is secondary". To this we would like to respond that EVE is a sandbox and shouldnGÇÖt necessarily favor one side over the other. What you do with it is up to you: all player activities should feel as appealing and rewarding no matter which choice you take, as long as you are willing to live up with the consequences of your actions.

welcome to 2-3 months ago. The SOE mission locations have been like this for awhile from what I've heard.

Umm, wut? Is this in the right thread?

I think your ocular enhancer may need adjustment

Er, because its not a PvP game? Its a sandbox game that includes PvP:

Er, because its not a PvP game? Its a sandbox game that includes PvP:

As for using destroyers for mission ship ganking, I'd imagine it's probably just cheaper. You have to get a greater number of players to coordinate it, but say 10 gank-fit destroyers would be cheaper than 3 gank-fit tier 3 bcs, I think?

Er, because its not a PvP game? Its a sandbox game that includes PvP: