Fact: Unlike other pvp mmorpgs, EVE's controls are simple enough and required interactions are low enough that simultaneously controlling multiple accounts is very easy to do.

Some of us actually do PvP. Try something that requires more interaction than mission running. I would never ever have 2 active ships while pvping. A scout and pvp char maybe, but you suck bad when fighting with 2 accounts, because you wont be able to give the required attention to each ship and max the performance. Try flying a guardian while controlling a another ship in a fleet battle. Controlling the guardian alone can be hard enough.. Atleast if you fight competent people.


This creates an environment where multiple accounts are highly preferable to gain an edge over an opponent. The advantage of more accounts is compounded exponentially by the hard counters that are possible in pvp, such as E-war, Neut/Nos, RR etc.

In other mmorpgs, players are forced to group up and cooperate to achieve their goals because it is nearly impossible for them to play more than one or two accounts simultaneously and efficiently. In EVE, you don't need to find another buddy to fill that tackler role or neut role for you because you can just easily, or even more easily, use one of your alts to fulfill the role perfectly.


Conclusion: Daddy's boy rich kid with 500$ a week allowance gets to dominate you in EVE 1v1 until you get competitive with your wallet.

Considering that the average age of an EVE player is around 30 years, I would assume that mpst people have jobs and make their own money... And if you cant get money, just buy plexes with isk. Oh wait, then its not pay to win!

Many intelligent people understand this about EVE and stay away. This statement made me laugh so hard. You come with a flawed argument, which is proven wrong pretty much as soon as you have posted, and then make this statement, with the hidden suggestion that you are among the few intelligent people who have seen the light...


Solution: Require more input from the user. Requiring some degree of aiming or charge bars with timing requirements in combat would go a long way to improving the reputation and game play of EVE.

Multi-boxing is nowhere near as common in other MMORPGS as it is in EVE. This is because of the extreme advantages and ease with which it is done in EVE. Anyone who plays EVE could tell you this.

Im a new player, Im rich and I want to win.


I buy a bunch of plexes with $$$
I buy characters
I buy ships
I buy modules
I get scammed by Goons

END

Im a new player, Im rich and I want to win.


I buy a bunch of plexes with $$$
I buy characters
I buy ships
I buy modules
I buy corps
I buy mercs
I buy friends
I buy alliances
I pretty much kill whoever I want for money
Make them suicide for me
Make them give me their stuff

Are you asking for the mechanics of the game to be changed so that multiboxing would no longer be possible? I can imagine that is something not really on CCP's list of things to do.
Can't imagine why.

GǪnone of which requires any money to acquire, and none of which actually guarantees any kind of win whatsoever. So it's more Gǣpay to get stuff you could conceivable (but don't have to) pay forGǥ than Gǣpay to winGǥ.

How does one win eve?

How does one win eve?

Fact: Unlike other pvp mmorpgs, EVE's controls are simple enough and required interactions are low enough that simultaneously controlling multiple accounts is very easy to do.


This creates an environment where multiple accounts are highly preferable to gain an edge over an opponent. The advantage of more accounts is compounded exponentially by the hard counters that are possible in pvp, such as E-war, Neut/Nos, RR etc.

In other mmorpgs, players are forced to group up and cooperate to achieve their goals because it is nearly impossible for them to play more than one or two accounts simultaneously and efficiently. In EVE, you don't need to find another buddy to fill that tackler role or neut role for you because you can just easily, or even more easily, use one of your alts to fulfill the role perfectly.



Conclusion: Daddy's boy rich kid with 500$ a week allowance gets to dominate you in EVE 1v1 until you get competitive with your wallet.

Many intelligent people understand this about EVE and stay away.


Solution: Require more input from the user. Requiring some degree of aiming or charge bars with timing requirements in combat would go a long way to improving the reputation and game play of EVE.

Dude, I am poor as f**k in real life, but I have 4 accounts going. Once had 5. The real intelligent people should realize you don't need to spend real life money on Eve. I haven't spent a single cent on Eve in over 7 years. You're not so fabulous with your ideas Fabulous Rod.

All of these things contribute to EVE's status as a p2w game and a game many people simply cannot afford to be competitive in.

How does one win eve?

With $$$ you can do whatever you want in this game.

By not logging in.

That is the common victory condition.

GǪand without $$$-áyou can do exactly the same, which rather defeats any notion of P2W.

Those extremely narrow definitions you have are typical of those who try their hardest to claim their favorite game is somehow not p2w at all.

Not that it wouldn't be impossible, just so that it wouldn't be so easy and effective to multibox. For instance, they could implement features where users are required to perform some degree of aiming or perhaps hit a perfect timing on a fluctuating bar in order to achieve maximum damage or hit chance, things to that effect. This would go a long way towards making the game more appealing, more skill demanding, and less pay 2 win.

You don't just need 4 accounts, you also need the computers to run them. We are talking about multi-boxing here. You don't know what poor is until you have been to a country where the minimum wage is 1$ an hour. Many of these countries have import taxes which makes computers and cars prohibitively expensive to the average person. All of these things things help contribute to EVE's status as a p2w game and a game that many people simply cannot afford to be competitive in, given the relatively heavy investments required.

Those extremely narrow definitions you have are typical of those who try their hardest to claim their favorite p2w game is somehow not p2w at all. P2W is not so black and white as you want to believe, there are varying degrees, and a rational person could tell you that for EVE, it is pretty high.

Those extremely narrow definitions you have are

P2W is not so black and white as you want to believe, there are varying degrees, and a rational person could tell you that for EVE, it is pretty high.

You don't just need 4 accounts, you also need the computers to run them.

Those extremely narrow definitions you have are typical of those who try their hardest to claim their favorite p2w game is somehow not p2w at all. P2W is not so black and white as you want to believe, there are varying degrees, and a rational person could tell you that for EVE, it is pretty high.

By the same token, you could say it is pretty low, because RL cash doesn't offer exclusive content.