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Archon Stormrage
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Posted - 2003.09.06 14:15:00 -
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Why oh why was it done, changing that much is a bit extreme as a correction for a mistake s i cannot believe that reason.
Just egg's me off 
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.06 14:22:00 -
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I can't see the reason either.  I'll have to use at least 3 to get my regular loadout to work, it would seem.
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NeoMorph
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Posted - 2003.09.06 14:57:00 -
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Also remember that using more than 2 gets the stacking nerfed as well... -------------------------------------------
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fluffle
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Posted - 2003.09.06 15:19:00 -
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yeah, it'd be nice to see an extra 50-100 cpu on some shiops due to this nerf :/ --
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.06 15:30:00 -
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Quote: Also remember that using more than 2 gets the stacking nerfed as well...
Make that 7 then. Might be enough 
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Judicator
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Posted - 2003.09.06 15:48:00 -
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*swings the nerf bat of *** abbandon*
"I have tried for months and months to make m0o the most hated, the most despised corp in the galaxy and what happens? A stack of muppets named TTI comes along and just basically urinates on my bonfire."
Stavr0s
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Valeria
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Posted - 2003.09.06 16:13:00 -
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You'll be filling your Raven's lows just to be able to use Siege launchers. Ack.
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |

Ordo Abchao
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Posted - 2003.09.06 21:21:00 -
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It's quite the over nerf, saying that the photonics were hit by the nerf bat would be an understatement, it's more like getting hit by the nerf mack truck. Order out of Chaos |

Daan
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Posted - 2003.09.06 21:24:00 -
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pls, can we not do this :/
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Majin Buu
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Posted - 2003.09.06 22:12:00 -
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what is the point of giving lvl 2 battleships another low slot when we are going to need another 7(SEVEN) low slots to power any sort of decent config? Doing this would also make ALOT of tech 2 stuff unusable because of there high cpu requirement
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.09.06 23:04:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 06/09/2003 23:49:47 Calvert looks at his spare 90 cpu and 3K powergrid on his Scorpion and wonders if his setup is lame because he hasn't used every ounce of powergrid/cpu
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Agent Shield
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Posted - 2003.09.06 23:28:00 -
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Archon, is this something you see because you go on the test server and is not a patch note item?
I hope it is not so, but I ask this as I don't go on the test server and kind of rely on the patchn otes and what others write in the forums to see what is coming up.
If it is only because you play on the test server that you see this, I am glad you bring the subject up. If nobody complained about an issue like this, then we who don't have a clue how to play over there and what is needed, would be even more clueless should that change get implemented on the regular server.
Keeping my fingers crossed it is just a test situation and will not be entered into the Tranquility server.
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Jolo
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Posted - 2003.09.06 23:38:00 -
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Photonics dropped like rain the first month or so. We had so many we'd recycle them. Now they are too common and I think the only way to nerf them is to reduce CPU...LAME. But what can you do. Train Electrionics! ---------------------------------------
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Klatuu
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Posted - 2003.09.07 00:28:00 -
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you're kidding, right? photonics are going down to 8%? Geez, talk about using a sledgehammer. 
Is there *anything* not being drastically changed in the upcoming patch? |

Muaddid
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Posted - 2003.09.07 00:48:00 -
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it was only a matter of time, every top named version of an item is 1.2x of the base stats
ex : 250mm proto dmg mod is 3, which is 1.2x the 250mm RG's 2.5x dmg mod
the photonic cpu is now 1.2x of the normal cpu (7%) when it was more like 7% + 20% = 27% before...
if ud have bothered checking eve-db ud have seen that even the tech 5 cpu was worse than the tech 1 photonic cpu... bit weird no ?
instead of whinning, find new ways ot equip your ship...
adapt or die 
On vacations (need a new sig too) |

Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.07 01:05:00 -
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Find new ways = get a setup that requires less CPU = worse.  I do understand WHY they nerfed it, but it still isn't that good... Basic co: 15% Co-processor: 18% Photonic: 21,6%
Sounds more reasonable. Of course other tech levels will have to be adjusted as well.
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Caillech
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Posted - 2003.09.07 01:16:00 -
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the unofficial reason for the change is cause when tech5 sometime in the future comes out the cpu mods would be better than tech5 ... and that just isnt right :) -------- Caillech Director of Sexual Healing
2003.08.22 16:18:53 ----- Your 1200mm Artillery Cannon I perfectly strikes Small Secure Container, wrecking for 1102.9 damage
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2003.09.07 01:50:00 -
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Quote: the unofficial reason for the change is cause when tech5 sometime in the future comes out the cpu mods would be better than tech5 ... and that just isnt right :)
My suggestion would solve that "problem". 
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SISQO
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Posted - 2003.09.07 03:16:00 -
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Yet another good module smashed into a million pieces by the CCP Sledgehammer, which is then followed by a steam roller to crush and flatten the remaining million pieces.
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Arch Aggelos
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Posted - 2003.09.07 05:52:00 -
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Just as we all got over the "injustice" of good ore bing moved out of empire space, so will you all get over the "nerfing" of Photonic CPU enhancers. You do have to admit, giving more than 1/4 extra CPU is a bit excessive...
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TimeKeepr
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Posted - 2003.09.07 07:02:00 -
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Edited by: TimeKeepr on 07/09/2003 07:03:38 hmm, not a problem...ive always avoided using cpu enhancers in favor of something more useful, like weapon upgrades or something. elec 5 and weapon upgrades 4 helps my cpu quite a bit
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Krowe
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Posted - 2003.09.07 11:11:00 -
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Are there not enough complaints about other unbalances that CCP has to mess with something else and create more?
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Khyan
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Posted - 2003.09.07 11:20:00 -
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i agree 27% was a bit much, but dropping it to 8%??? how about 14%-15%?
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Boneca
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Posted - 2003.09.07 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Boneca on 07/09/2003 11:26:07 Edited by: Boneca on 07/09/2003 11:25:01 These items have always seemed overpowered when you remember that R C units allow no more than a 10% boost,even the tech2 ones i have seen. Pilots requiring a CPU boost rather than a Power boost have had a big advantage in this respect up until now. Surely this is just the sort of balancing we need to these "Uber" items. We are only just seeing the introduction of tech2, tech1 should have failings in all our eyes cos it is only just above basic stuff.
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Lord Eidolon
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Posted - 2003.09.07 14:08:00 -
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Where's the proof that this is going to happen? Or is it just a rumor? -------------------- Lord Eidolon The COSMOS Corporation
"Your ignorance...amuses me."
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Jad'Quer Deltoir
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Posted - 2003.09.07 16:07:00 -
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Well guys you are forgetting they are introducing some tech II .. that should even it up right?
Quote: Without darkness there can be no light
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Arch Aggelos
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Posted - 2003.09.07 18:21:00 -
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Quote: i agree 27% was a bit much, but dropping it to 8%??? how about 14%-15%?
Remember, we've gotta get these things all the way up to Tech Level 5. So unless you want Tech5 to be a 100% boost, then yes, 8% seems about right.
Think to the future of Eve, not to your selfish desires.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.09.07 18:31:00 -
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heh time to sell them __________________________
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Wodka
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Posted - 2003.09.07 20:21:00 -
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photonics are now down to 7.2% on test this means they are almost the same as co processors anyway now they are useless
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2003.09.07 21:52:00 -
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those of you who are moaning that you now won't be able to have "_ber config MkV" - why are you bothered?
Why did you need that _ber config? To combat someone elses _ber config? But they can't HAVE that config anymore, so you're not actually losing ANYTHING.
The thing I'm going to miss is putting it on an apoc to fit Miner II's. bah.
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